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Come now, you didn’t mention her appearance in View to a Kill! Probably my fifth favorite Bond film, and I daresay Grace needs credit here for that.
So basically it’s gay because….why? There is nothing in there about her doing anything gay, the song that gay men love because they thought it was about anal sex, she says it is not, and she has famously dated men.
Queerty. you may want to re-look up the definition of “Gay”.
Oh, Cam, Cam, Cam. Like it or not, Grace Jones is, or was, a gay icon. She was styled by many gay men and her music was the background to the hedonistic late 70s disco scene. Then she segued into a more pared-down sound for Warm Leatherette and Nightclubbing in the 80s, which are still great albums. Assuming she tells the truth (which is by no means guaranteed) he memoir should be full of tidbits about famous gay men from Warhol to Haring and all the closeted designers of the era. What’s NOT gay about that?
I just became a fan of Grace Jones from her last album Hurricane. I have distant memories from the mid 90s perusing through my father’s vinyl album collection and coming across Nightclubbing which was totally enigmatic to me. My parents have great taste in music :D
Hey Cam, I usually love your passion here but lighten up on this one.
This is disgusting. All those pictures just made me wanna puke. Gross!!!
She is devastatingly gorgeous, and oh to have been at that photo shoot with Dolph…. it would have been… I’m sorry where was I?
Will check out the memoir.
Hope it’s a gigantic coffee table opus !
When I was a little kid I had a weird attraction to her. I guess because she has a masculine vibe. Made my dad take me to see Vamp because of her.
LOVE LOVE LOVE Grace….can’t wait for the book!
Jessica Lange as in Sister Jude?
Question: Idk about this, so all I need is clarification and I’m not trying to disparage Grace Jones, but I’ve always wondered, besides the fact that gay people were into her music, was she actually actively for the gays like someone like Madonna was?
And I have over 5,000 photos of her, front and center from The Hammerstein 2009 and the infamous one-off Hurricane-Hallowe’en-Full Moon only US performance in 2012 at the legendary Roseland Ballroom. She was so close to me at one point with the big YELLOW SMILE headpiece, that I couldn’t even photograph her! Wait, boys and girls. Wait until you see my book! Phenomenal photographs, with a REAL camera.
I’m not perfect, but I was perfectly placed for Miss Grace! LOVE THIS!!! WOOOOO-HOOOO!
@Niall: Yeah, she was performing for gay men from day one. There’s a track I was listening to this morning — it was all Grace today — where Goude was talking about her looking like a man, singing “I Want a Man” to a room full of gay men” and that’s when he fell in love with her.
@Cam: I just looked it up and I saw myself. And the way she played with the idea of masculinity and femininity while embracing gay men and gay culture make her a huge and inspirational icon.
LOVED this article (Well Done!) and can’t wait to get ahold of this book. The pics alone should be Priceless… ;)
@Cam: JEEZ, Lighten Up. Go live in the non-existent, 100-percent, All-Gay, All-the-Time World. Good Luck with that, BTW… :(
Actually you need to lighten up. Did I attack Grace Jones? No, Did I say she wasn’t a gay Icon? No, what I simply pointed out that Queerty said her memoir would be the “GAYEST” thing ever.
Considering that there is nothing gay in it, that would mean that it is NOT the gayest thing ever.
That doesn’t mean that gays won’t like it or that it won’t be interesting for gays to read. But calling it the gayest thing ever when there is nothing gay in it is just ridiculous.
Fuck the phrase “Gay Icon,” Grace Jones is an Icon, PERIOD.
@Cam: WHATEVER, Dude. As in your response to me, I was just pointing out that you’re coming off kinda militantly, self-righteously indignant, that’s all. Have a Great Day/Night, Sunshine… :(
@jwrappaport: And it would’ve been such an easy pun: Gay Day. May Gay. Eh, perhaps too easy.
@Cam: I resemble that remark.
I have been educated about Grace. Thanks.
Grace is a legend.
I would like to see Grace perform one more time….
Forgot to mention that she performed for the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee. I’d say that’s pretty gay.
Big fan of Grace Jones here. I MUST get this book. She’s the definition of gay icon!
grace jones was/is a gay icon, diva and one-of-a-kind- legend.
besides all the info in this article, grace performed at gay leather bars, during the time, (70s) no one, even some gay men would perform @.
there is the infamous performance @ the bullshot on la brea ave, (now la plaza) when she rode into the bar on a motorcycle with a leather daddy, later in the 80s she performed @ the probe on highland ave, an after party- kinky men’s club of the era. she was supposed to go on @ midnight, but came on @ 3am.. the performance was sparse and AMAZING.. i have never seen anything like it until her performance @ hollywood bowl 3 years ago where she received a well- deserved 10 minute standing ovation. and this was for her first number!
@Cam: Go watch something on Lifetime and STFU.
@eigilvesti: OMG, that sounds amazing. Thanks for sharing!
“@Cam: WHATEVER, Dude. As in your response to me, I was just pointing out that you’re coming off kinda militantly, self-righteously indignant, that’s all. Have a Great Day/Night, Sunshine… :(”
So lets see, I legitimately point out that the book isn’t gay. That is might be interesting or fun to read, but calling it the “Gayest” is silly since there is nothing gay in it. And in return, you can’t make a real response to you just attack and insult.
Please point out how my statement was incorrect if you can. If you can’t, then please explain how your commentary in any way shows you to be anything different than what you accused me of.
@Cam: The equally hyperbolic “greatest” was used in the title which you seem reluctant to opine on. I mean take the “literal shades” off and enjoy some of the “gay” stories being shared by people in the thread.
@Deepdow: HURRICANE? That’s like saying you became a fan of Paul McCartney because of his work with Wings. Portfolio is absolute brilliance from first note to last.
@eigilvesti: An ex took me to see her at Lion Country Safari somewhere south of L. A. Yes, she actually gave a concert at an animal-based theme park with lions and rhinos and sh!+ walking around. Was scheduled to come on at 10 but finally turned up at 3 am.
@Niall: Good question! Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but the way I see it is that back then gay people were creating their own culture rather than trying to fit in. We were making our own neighborhoods, going to our own clubs, and listening to our own music. Sure, there were demonstrations whenever something particularly horrible happened — like Harvey Milk’s assassination — but mostly we were just creating a space for ourselves. Grace was a fabulous part of that space and she clearly loved being in it.
The title and body were what I was referencing.
Yassssss… Ms Thang. I live..I live. Pic#9 is everything. Now Grace is what I call a super model.
@Niall: @RomanHans: Thanks for the answer you guys :)
yah! i remember that, but didn’t get to go! thanks for reminding… grace is legend gay or otherwise
yes roman you hit the “head on the nail.” gay wasn’t as political then, because we didn’t stand a chance on winning.
i remember the first time i personally saw gays unite was over anita bryants rant. a gay organization held a benifit @ the hollywood bowl, (1977?) to defeat prop 6 against gay teachers in california. we turned out in droves! it was so exciting and empowering… i kept seeing celebrities in the audience and thinking- wow~ are they gay?
the performers included lily tomlyn, richard prior, (who told the audience to kiss his black ass) and bette midler, ( who told richard prior to kiss her white ass)
Thank you for reminding me of the Probe and her performance there.. I had forgotten.
I agree when she was out we were just starting to make a place for us that is why it is good that we remember and celebrate our past … Grace Jones was a part of that past!
I love her! She is one of the best!
@eigilvesti: “gay wasn’t political then”?
I don’t believe I’ve ever read a more ignorant statement on these pages than that statement. That’s saying a lot.
I’d written a couple pages in reply when I realized it would fall on deaf ears.
There’s a wealth of information out there if anyone is interested.
People have died – and still are dying – so this crowd can argue if at 26 or 27 someone’s over the hill.
i love grace – she is a legend – i went to see her perform many years ago
and she was fantastic – i will read the book cause of grace – nothing to do with gay.
retract your fangs.
i said~ ” gay wasn’t AS political then, because we didn’t stand a chance on winning.”
i also mentioned prop 6 and the benefit for human rights @ the hollywood bowl..
this of course is all before harvey’s murder and AIDS.
i’m 55 years old. i was stating events i remember at that time- (1977) specifically and how at that age when i became involved. gay politics gained momentum after anita bryant and harvey’s murder.
if you’re going to try to insult me at least read what i wrote completely. i’m stating a historical prospective of coming of age- as a gay young man in los angeles . once again grace jones was right there very early on.
Full story here: http://www.queerty.com/10-reasons-grace-joness-memoir-will-be-the-gayest-and-greatest-thing-ever-20130919/#ixzz2fb52Tt6n
@eigilvesti: You’ve put a different emphasis on that AS, which makes a big difference, doesn’t it? I’m 59 and that slight difference in age furnished me with a whole different set of reference points. I remember Stonewall occuring and it’s aftermath as the beginning of the movement. It’s my touchstone on the beginning or jumpstart of the gay rights movement. (Actually the Mattachine society from the 50s & 60s were some of the bravest pioneers we’ve had & there’s virtually no recognition of them). For me the whole era was political what with the war, women’s lib, everything – all of my connection are 5 years older than yours. It’s frustrating at times to see the most important thing in some lives today are whether someone has shaved their crotch or not. Were we any different? Anyway I ramble. No hard feelings? Oh yeah-I have claws, I’ve been defanged.
Legend. Love her.
yes it does.. i actually think we’re in agreement about this whole thing….
i was stating my personal involvement in my young gay life and how political events started to impact me. of course later on and now, i’m well versed in our rich history. it was my personal observation that we lost most of our early political battles, ( 1960s. early 1970s) because of the extreme homophobia of the times… i began to notice an impact- reaction when anita bryant made her ludicrous statements. at the time i was surprised so much of the general public came out against her.. then prop 6 was defeated, (allowing gay teachers) and harvey’s brief era, AIDS and then the shit really hit the fan.
btw- i later worked at the advocate as a freelance photographer and covered all the political events of the late 80s.
@eigilvesti: Many times different paths lead to the same destination. Good talking to you.
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