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2nd Porn Shutdown Announced After 2nd Performer Tests HIV Positive

stop-pornOn Friday, the Free Speech Coalition and Performer Availability Screening Services announced a second moratorium on porn production following the announcement of a second performer tested positive for HIV:

Today, FSC/PASS was informed by one of the doctors affiliated with one of the PASS provider testing facilities that another performer has tested positive for HIV. As a result of this news, FSC is calling a moratorium on all production until further notice.

The criteria for the moratorium are established by the doctors on the medical advisory council which includes Dr. Sean Darcy and Dr. Peter Miao. The doctors are working in concert to do the research and create an accurate 1st and 2nd generational genealogy. They are also ensuring that the performer receives referrals, medical counsel and top quality care.

While we don’t have evidence to suggest an on set transmission as opposed to a transmission from non-industry (off-camera) related activity, we are taking every measure to determine the source and to protect the performer pool. The cost of retests required for generational partners will be covered by FSC/PASS.

It should be noted that the last moratorium was lifted contingent on mandatory retesting after August 19th which exceeded the window period recommended by the PASS medical advisory council.

Dr. Darcy stated, “Because of these precautionary steps, the performer who has now tested positive for HIV, had not performed since BEFORE the first moratorium and was prevented from performing due to the required retest. Therefore, no performers were exposed to a new risk of on-set transmission as a result of this latest case, or Ms. Bay’s infection.”

PASS will supply regular updates on the PASS website at www.FSCPASS.org. Please check the website for daily updates.

The FSC/PASS, a trade organization serving the adult entertainment industry, announced a similar moratorium two weeks ago after performer Cameron Bay announced through the FSC that she was HIV positive. Her boyfriend, fellow performer Rod Daily announced via Twitter this week that he too had tested positive. Both had worked for Kink.com, which was recently the subject of a complaint filed by the AIDS Healthcare Foundation with California’s Division of Occupational Safety and Health, calling for the studio to mandate condom use in all scenes.

Last year, Los Angeles County passed a measure requiring all adult film actors to wear condoms, though some companies flout the law by shooting outside county lines. Industry leaders are fighting the measure in court, claiming their audiences don’t want to see condoms. Meanwhile, Assemblyman Isadore Hall III is pushing for a similar law to be adopted statewide.

h/t: XBIZ

By:           Les Fabian Brathwaite
On:           Sep 7, 2013
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  • 65 Comments
    • Katbox
      Katbox

      Passing the blame in 3-2-1…

      Sep 7, 2013 at 1:38 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • defsteve
      defsteve

      Is that really a thing? People not liking porn because of condoms? What the fuck?
      Personally I won’t watch porn where the performers aren’t using condoms.

      I guess I can understand barebacking in person cuz some dudes don’t like the way condoms feel, w/e, but people taking that kind of risk for your fantasy? What the ever-loving fuck?

      Sep 7, 2013 at 2:39 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • QJ201
      QJ201

      FYI: This is HETERO Porn…so like who cares.

      Sep 7, 2013 at 2:53 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • CaptainFabulous
      CaptainFabulous

      Cue the holier-than-thou and self-righteous anti-bareback brigade in 3…2…1…

      Sep 7, 2013 at 2:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kamuriie
      Kamuriie

      @defsteve: Guess what? You’re in the MINORITY. Bareback porn is FAR AND AWAY more popular. People don’t want to see condoms in their porn for the same reason people don’t really like using them in real life.

      They’re a necessary evil in your personal life, but porn is all about fantasy. A lot of people can’t get off–period–using condoms. Seeing that, knowing that the actors aren’t really enjoying the sensations (especially if they’re gay-for-pay) totally ruins the scene.

      Take your righteous indignation elsewhere, tard.

      Sep 7, 2013 at 3:14 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Scribe38
      Scribe38

      A few hundred bucks is NOT worth dying for. I am not anti porn, but anti stupid. Porn is fantasy but it also should some what reflect reality. Often in a porn scene people meet and have sex upon meeting. It makes sense logic wise they would wear rubbers. Fans of porn should care enough about their favorite stars not to want them to be in risk of becoming ill.

      Sep 7, 2013 at 3:30 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Scribe38
      Scribe38

      @Kamuriie: Sir you’re a nut. Why would you wish to put anyone at risk so you can jerk off in your bedroom with tissue? Porn actors are mostly young folks with money and personal issues using porn because they lack other options. Why add a major health issue on to their life. If fans stopped buying bareback porn, the actors would be safer.

      Sep 7, 2013 at 3:40 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • 2eo
      2eo

      @CaptainFabulous: I’m glad you’re slowly dying you irresponsible fuckstick.

      Sep 7, 2013 at 3:51 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • the other Greg
      the other Greg

      @Kamuriie: “Seeing that, knowing that the actors aren’t really enjoying the sensations… totally ruins the scene.” You’re a mind-reader now?

      Seeing that, knowing that the actors may be acquiring a dangerous disease, on camera… gee, for ethical people that can be kind of a boner-killer.

      Sep 7, 2013 at 3:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • the other Greg
      the other Greg

      @2eo: I do worry a bit about the poor schmucks who agree to have “natural sex” (i.e. bareback) with Captain AIDS Dementia!

      But I guess they can’t be too bright? – you know, Darwin and all that.

      Sep 7, 2013 at 3:57 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Stache1
      Stache1

      @CaptainFabulous: Ding, ding, ding…Right on que they are.

      Sep 7, 2013 at 3:59 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Stache1
      Stache1

      @QJ201: This is what I can’t really understand. Straight porn has been doing bareback since the beginning. They have different standards and every time something like this happens they shut the industry down. It’s been a rough month for them but mostly it’s rare. We hear these stories once every few years. Statistically that’s pretty damn good when you compare it to other situations.

      Sep 7, 2013 at 4:07 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • oilburner
      oilburner

      @QJ201: FYI
      ONE OF THE MODELS WHO TESTED POSITIVE ALSO MADE HOMO SEX , BUT WHO CARES

      Sep 7, 2013 at 4:28 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @oilburner:

      And it’s already been proven that he was infected by his porn star girlfriend who doesn’t use condoms in her movies.

      So heterosexual sex seems to be the dangerous thing here you bigoted troll. Oh by the way, why are you trolling gay sites?

      Sep 7, 2013 at 4:40 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dxley
      Dxley

      Do these “stars” get infected when filming or in their own personal lives? I’m too lazy to read the story.

      Sep 7, 2013 at 4:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • bobbyjoe
      bobbyjoe

      I’m a little lost here: the story says that the infected performer in question hasn’t performed since before the first moratorium and so they say nobody else is at risk of infection. There was mandatory re-testing before the performer could re-enter porn and (as I’m imagining it was designed to do) it revealed that this performer was now infected and, thus, didn’t return to porn. So why are they shutting things down again? Am I missing something in the story here? Because if not, it sounds a little like “our precautions worked as they were designed and nobody’s at-risk from this performer so–OHMIGOD!!!!!– let’s panic everyone again with a shutdown.”

      Sep 7, 2013 at 4:57 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Caine
      Caine

      @bobbyjoe they have to shut things down again while all the partners and partners of partners of the new HIV+ person are tested – i don’t believe they have said if the new person is a man or a woman. and yes – this is straight porn. mainstream gay porn uses condoms (mostly) and don’t do testing (they are having safe sex after all), some of the new companies doing bareback are using neg-4-neg only models with testing. the pioneers of the gay bareback genre are mostly using HIV+ models so testing for HIV isn’t much of an issue.
      and to quote @captainfabulous cue the cross infection and super HIV strains theories in 1… 2… 3…
      they started talking about that super strain of HIV in 2005 – still waiting for it much like that huge meningitis outbreak last winter. what meningitis outbreak? yeah. exactly.

      Sep 7, 2013 at 5:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chris-MI
      Chris-MI

      @bobbyjoe: Cameron Bay was determined to be HIV positive because she was tested by one of the approved labs with the more expensive and accurate DNA test which is the standard for working in straight porn.

      Rod Daily has not worked in over a month so far as I can tell. As soon as he heard about Cameron’s condition he bought one of those at home tests. It was negative. He went to a doctor who is not associated with one of those porn certificate networks and got his own DNA test, which he voluntarily revealed was positive.

      Both Rod and Cameron’s tests indicate that they were recently infected. I’m not sure this second person is Rod. The PASS tests they are talking about come with an agreement that you will let them blab your health data all over the porn industry. If you became HIV positive and didn’t ever want to make porn again (as Rod has said he doesn’t) you wouldn’t have to order a PASS test unless you thought it was some sort of civic duty.

      Cameron did an interview about it which you can Google up yourself. She’s none to happy at the CEO of Kink claiming Rod gave it to her. From what is known so far it seems far more likely that she gave it to Rod. The straight porn industry is falling all over themselves to say that she didn’t get it on set, but if this second performer is someone she had sex with, who knows?

      Sep 7, 2013 at 5:59 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GeriHew
      GeriHew

      @Caine: The “new person” is mostly gay male performer Rod Daily.

      http://www.queerty.com/following-industry-shutdown-gay-porn-star-rod-daily-reveals-hes-hiv-positive-20130904/

      The real reason the FSC didn’t reinstate the moratorium immediately is because they treated Daily as a gay only performer – even though they knew he had done a TS scene in August this year (trans porn is generally regarded as straight porn by the industry & many transwomen performers do scenes with female performers as well as males) and they must have known he is the boyfriend of Cameron Bay, the female perform at the center of the first shutdown.

      Their excuse for the delay is that they weren’t sure Daily’s tweets were genuine and the clinic in Arizona where he got his HIV+ diagnoses isn’t a clinic that feeds into the adult industry’s checking system.

      When Cameron Bay was diagnosed HIV+ and the first shutdown took place they were supposed to check all the other performers she had worked to see if they either tested clear of HIV or not. They claimed they had. Said “All performers who worked with Cameron Bay have tested clean” & lifted the moratorium.

      http://business.avn.com/articles/video/FSC-Lifts-Production-Moratorium-527361.html

      BUT they obviously didn’t wait for the result of her porn star boyfriend Rod Daily

      WHY? Because they treated him as gay only with condoms performer

      BUT Rod Daily is registered in their APHSS/PASS system ( he posted a picture of his PASS on twitter when news broke that he was Cameron Bay’s boyfriend) where any “straight” performer can check if another “straight” performer is “Available to work”. “Available to work” should mean they have a current clean STD test.

      SO They should have known he was not a gay only performer from their own records.

      They should not have lifted the first moratorium when they did. And following this error they should have reimposed the moratorium immediately on hearing he had tested positive. But they waited several days.

      Another big question is why Rod Daily didn’t test at Talent Testing Services, his usual APHSS/PASS system clinic, but went out of state to get tested. Maybe they were trying to pay him off to keep quite and disappear from the industry with his unfortunate girlfriend.

      It all stinks.

      Sep 7, 2013 at 6:35 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Snapper59
      Snapper59

      I would assume if your chosen career is porn you’re just as likely to get infected sharing needles. You know, since a lot of them have their heads wrapped so tight.

      Sep 7, 2013 at 6:36 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dxley
      Dxley

      Why would anybody choose to have sex for a living? o_O. I just don’t get it. I love sex and have it a lot(4 times a week mostly, I’m 25 btw) but how someone would want to have it for money totally beats me (-__-)

      Sep 7, 2013 at 7:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      Hey Queerty, why do you have comments disabled on all of the postings about voting for the “Stoli Guy”?

      Is it because you don’t want people to point out that Stoli has it’s roots in Russia which is currently declaring war on gay people and is now manufactured in Latvia where gays also are oppressed?

      Or simply because you don’t want people to point out that all of the contestants look like they just got back from an appointment to have themselves waxed and completely desexualized?

      Sep 7, 2013 at 7:28 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • CaptainFabulous
      CaptainFabulous

      @2eo: What makes you think I’m slowly dying? FYI I’m healthy as an ox. Not a single thing wrong with me.

      Sep 7, 2013 at 8:40 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dxley
      Dxley

      I’m sure @defsteve is a virgin. After you experience bareback with the guy you LOVE, I promise you that your mind WILL change. I’m not encouraging unsafe sex, I’m being realistic. A lot of gay guys choose not to use condoms because it REALLY does feel a lot better without them. Worth the risk? No. Feels better? An understatement. When I watch porn I personally NEVER want to see any condom. It ruins it for me. Porn is fantasy(like the guys have already said), and in a fantasy world, the ASSUMPTION is that all is good, and everything is perfect. I don’t think fans really care that much how you do it, as long you do it.

      I’ve been using sites like RandyBlue and SeanCody among a hundred others, but I hated RandyBlue for the fact that it uses condoms. I love me some SeanCody, and a lot of gay guys agree. You’re the first person I’ve EVER heard saying that he won’t watch bareback porn and rather prefers condoms.

      Sep 7, 2013 at 9:30 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Katze
      Katze

      @Dxley: Here is the 2nd person. I watched BB in the past, but now I totally agree with people who say that one schould act as a responsible consumer. The stuff I ordered recently (mostly from Lucas Entertainment)is with condoms, although it is not completely safer sex (sucking without can be dangerous too). As for real life experiences, I don´t know, I am sexually abstinent, not gay, and not a man.)))

      Sep 7, 2013 at 10:33 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tardis
      tardis

      @Dxley: Here’s the third, too. Personally, I don’t like having sex without a condom. I, too, am abstinent, for the fact that I don’t think risky behavior is worth it. I want to live a long and healthy life. Everyone is different and everyone wants different things and bareback sex isn’t one of them. I’ve been in committed relationships and I’ve always used condoms.

      Sep 8, 2013 at 12:20 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • andy0529
      andy0529

      This is a rare case of female to male transmission, yes Rod Dailey did gay porn and escorted for almost 10 yrs but she tested positive 1st and went back to porn after the birth of her child. He went and got retested after she informed him. HIV always leaves a DNA trace they know who tested positive 1st, and who infected who and she infected him, that no condom deal only works in straight porn. Gay condom porn has the hotter and better looking performers.

      Sep 8, 2013 at 2:47 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dxley
      Dxley

      Well, good luck with being celibate. I don’t see the point of missing out on the good things in life just because you’re afraid of dying. There’s no way I’m EVER going celibate, if my guy decides he wants to, then I’m leaving him. No doubt. If you’re so worried about your health, there are plenty of condoms, but it’s your choice by the end of the day. We’re, normally, all going to die and when I get old, I want to look back and say “I have lived” and not regret not having banged that cute guy just because I was a germophobe who lost his virginity at 27 with 2 condoms on. I lost mine at 17 to a black guy who I dated until I was 20 and I’m now 25. Anyway, that works for you and I know it won’t work for me. Much like porn, if its title doesn’t have “bareback” in it, chances are, there’s no way I’m downloading or watching it.

      Sep 8, 2013 at 3:27 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • moraloral35
      moraloral35

      andy0529. No, tests arn’t that sensitive. You can’t tell who was ‘patient zero’ over 1-2 month time scales.

      Anyway, it’s not really surprising that people suspected Daily.

      The HIV incidents in 1998, 2004, and 2010 all involved male performers who either worked out of the system briefly (Darren James in 2004, who had traveled to Brazil) or who were engaged in straight and gay porn.

      Since all performers on the straight side undergo regular testing, and so far none have tested positive, Bay is unlikely to have contracted HIV unless it was drugs or a private partner.

      Everyone knows that a very large number of gay performers are HIV positive. The lack of testing in gay porn is a real problem because it’s never really clear how a performer contracted HIV, and if he contracted it on-set.
      A lot of people claim that the chance of contracting HIV from oral sex is “infinitesimally small”. This is a misreading of the literature: there is no evidence of oral transmission because there are no studies which can statistically separate those who contracted HIV from receptive anal or vaginal sex versus those who contracted it from oral sex. While receptive oral sex *is* much safer than receptive vaginal sex, we really have no way of quantifying this (check the CDC).

      Given that porn actors often have STIs which can compromise the immune system in their mouths and throats, and given the sheer volume of oral sex they undergo in a workday, models of risk which work for the rest of the population probably are not representative of their level of risk.

      All porn stars, gay and straight, should be tested.

      Sep 8, 2013 at 4:49 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • moraloral35
      moraloral35

      @moraloral35: ETA out of Radar online is that there is a 3rd male performer who may have exposed a dozens of women.

      Sep 8, 2013 at 5:34 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dxley
      Dxley

      For some reason I still think “stars” is a bit strong!!!

      Sep 8, 2013 at 5:42 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GeriHew
      GeriHew

      @andy0529: You’re either high on something illegal or just plain mad to write this nonsense.

      Rod Daily and Cameron Bay both tested HIV+ within a couple of weeks of each other.

      Sep 8, 2013 at 5:59 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GeriHew
      GeriHew

      @Cam: It hasn’t been established for certain yet if she infected him or he infected her.

      The fact that she tested HIV+ first proves nothing because they both tested positive within a few days of each other.

      One actual fact you should hold on to is that as a gay performer he could do scenes with untested men using a condom. As a female performer she could not (according to the rules of straight porn production) do scenes with anybody, male or female, who had not been tested within the previous 28 days.

      Also it appears that she was last tested clean 3 days before her last porn scene; whereas he was last tested clean about 12 days before his last scene; which was a gay scene.

      Sep 8, 2013 at 6:14 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • the other Greg
      the other Greg

      @Katze: “although it is not completely safer sex (sucking without can be dangerous too)”

      HIV? Almost impossible to get it that way. And there’s even debate about the “almost.”

      Other STIs possible, of course.

      Sep 8, 2013 at 9:25 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @GeriHew:

      What you left out is the fact that she had sex with multiple people without condoms, and he used condoms for all his scenes.

      Her activities are considered far more likely to end in transmission.

      Sep 8, 2013 at 10:16 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chris-MI
      Chris-MI

      @GeriHew: Yes, but he is still safer than she is because her partners could have been infected on day 1, tested negative on day 13, and work until day 41, all the while being positive and transmitting the virus. This is more or less what happened in 2004 except that the performer was paranoid and regularly tested every 14 days instead of every 28. He on the other hand is only at risk on set if the condoms fail.

      It’s not clear what happened here although the timing suggests that she got it first. You’d have to look at their sex lives on and off camera and they have no reason to disclose all that, nor would I want them to.

      Sep 8, 2013 at 10:19 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • viveutvivas
      viveutvivas

      What I don’t understand is why porn performers don’t just use PrEP like many other sex workers. If ever there were a profession where PrEP was appropriate, this would be it.

      As for bareback porn, I agree that seeing condoms in my porn just turns me off. There are enough ways nowadays (viral load testing for window period infections and PrEP) of making bareback porn about as safe as the “safer” sex most of us are having to make do with in our own lives, so the ethical arguments for avoiding bareback porn nowadays are rather weak.

      Sep 8, 2013 at 10:26 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Fitz
      Fitz

      Porn is fantasy. I don’t do 12 guys in one day, I don’t screw the UPS guy, I don’t go to Glory Holes… and I don’t have BB sex. I don’t WANT reality injected (pun intended) into my porn.

      This situation should be viewed as a SUCCESS.. the guys were screened, now they can get medical help.

      Sep 8, 2013 at 10:50 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Rockery
      Rockery

      @Cam:

      It has not been proven she gave it to him and is unlikely, all her partners tested negative and it’s much harder for a female to pass it to a male.

      @GeriHew:

      Exactly, I would take it a step further, a lot of gay performers are HIV+, and work at condom studios. If people think Erik Rhodes was an isolated case then I feel sorry for them

      Sep 8, 2013 at 12:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dxley
      Dxley

      I’m impressed by how much you guys know about porn models o_O . I know NONE by name!

      Sep 8, 2013 at 12:28 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • EManhattan
      EManhattan

      @andy0529 – “This is a rare case of female to male transmission,”

      Female to male HIV transmission is not rare in heterosexual populations, it’s only rare in homosexual populations. How do you think all those exclusively heterosexual HIV positive men got it? Not all straight men are banging gay men on the side.

      Sep 8, 2013 at 1:31 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • EManhattan
      EManhattan

      And @cam yes, I hope Queerty is getting LOTS of money for those Stoli fake-news product placement articles.

      It’s really irritating to see those Stoli fluff articles here – sort of like seeing a “Top 10 hot Russian Gay Bashers Contest”, asking us to vote on the attractiveness of our torturers. It’s much more offensive than a straight-out ad campaign would be. After the fake stories run their course I want Queerty to explain themselves and tell us where the money’s going. To cover developments in Russia and other countries that are in the grip of the religious right? To send correspondents to the Winter Olympics for on the ground reporting? I certainly hope so.

      Sep 8, 2013 at 1:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • viveutvivas
      viveutvivas

      @andy0529 – “This is a rare case of female to male transmission,”

      Go tell that to the patients in certain African countries where 25% of the population is HIV+.

      Sep 8, 2013 at 2:36 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chris-MI
      Chris-MI

      @moraloral35: This article is probably about the same person as being reported by Radar. Many of the commenters are assuming that this person is Rod Daily, but actually it appears not to be as Rod’s twitter and Cameron’s blog indicate that he was tested outside of the PASS system. There may be or may not be three cases here.

      Sep 8, 2013 at 4:35 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GeriHew
      GeriHew

      @Chris-MI: There have been a lot of rumours and conflicting information and reports circulating this weekend about this situation.

      When the 2nd shutdown was first announced on Friday there were reports that it was because Rod Daley’s positive diagnosis had been confirmed. This was quickly followed by reports saying a third performer had tested positive. Some saying it’s a male, others that it’s a female,and others which didn’t mention gender

      It should be noted that both Cameron Bay & Rod Daley both came out an announced their HIV status voluntarily online. The third performer in question may not want to reveal his/her identity publicly at this time. But it is unlikely they will be able to stay anonymous for long. Although theoretically they can and the system will still contact all the other performers they’ve worked with to get them tested as soon as possible.

      If it is a performer who worked with either Cameron Bay or Rod Daley it may establish which one of them got it first & who infected who. If on the other hand it’s a performer who hasn’t worked with either of them then the porn industry is potentially facing a really serious crisis.

      If the third case is a male, it is unlikely that he will be a gay only performer. Unless he is a gay only performer who has an off-screen relationship with a female performer.

      Sep 8, 2013 at 5:51 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GeriHew
      GeriHew

      @Cam: On the gay side of the industry men who are known HIV+ are still allowed to do gay scenes with condoms by many studios.

      On the straight side if you have HIV your performing career is effectively over. You can’t work at all, with or without a condom.

      The porn industry needs to have the same rules for both sides and regular std testing for everyone, and Hep A and B jabs for everyone – if only because many performers work on both sides.

      Sensibly, if you are going to allow HIV+ performers to continue working then they should only be allowed work with each other. The last shutdown in 2010 due to HIV involved a bisexual male performer (Derrick Burts) who apparently contracted HIV on a gay porn set where they were using condoms.

      Sep 8, 2013 at 6:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • moraloral35
      moraloral35

      It’s not like condoms are a silver bullet. Even occasional breakage or slippage could greatly raise the risk of infection for receptive partner during anal sex.
      Consider that unprotected receptive anal sex with a untreated HIV+ partner has about a 1.4% per sex act transmission rate.
      If a condom slips or breaks on 5 of 100 sex acts with an HIV positive partner, the naive probability of infection for the receptive partner is 6.8% (given (1-(1-0.014)^5)x100). Note that studies indicate that condoms appear to break or slip more often than 5% of the time. And indeed in hetero couples we find that under typical conditions condoms reduce HIV transmission by 80% with serodiscordant partners relative to serodiscordant partners where no condom is used. That’s not ideal.

      I also strongly suspect that many gay performers do not know their status, are HIV positive, and are untreated–meaning they have high viral loads (of course, testing is practically unheard of so we can only deal in educated guesses). Performers also switch between shoots which require condoms and shoots which do not, allowing a kind of “cross contamination.”

      Sep 9, 2013 at 1:03 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tardis
      tardis

      @Dxley: I’m not afraid of dying. It’s a part of life, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to be reckless. I want to live as long as I can and be as healthy as I can, for as long as I can.

      No, you don’t see the point in being celibate, and you know that? That’s OK. Different strokes for different folks.

      Sep 9, 2013 at 1:36 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • iluvcakes
      iluvcakes

      I like bareback porn but seriously why not mandate that studios have to test performers before every set. There has to be some way to cover all the bases. And why not make Truvada mandatory as well if the stuff really does work.

      Sep 9, 2013 at 3:02 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • moraloral35
      moraloral35

      @iluvcakes: There would be immense fallout if gay performers had to be tested. It’s not like 1%, 5% or even 10% of bareback performers would test positive; it’s more like 50 to 70% of bareback performers would test positive. And if gay performers are anything like the general populace of gay men, about 50% do not know their status (and may not want to know it).

      It’s also fucking irresponsible to allow bareback actors, who probably have untreated HIV, to participate in dozens of dozens of shoots where they fucks hapless negative performers who think they are ‘safe’ because a condom is being used. When you fuck hundreds of men in a year, and many have HIV, the minuscule odds of a condom leaking or slipping compound pretty quickly. The idea that gay porn involving condoms is somehow safer than the hetero system where literally everyone is tested is dangerously ignorant.

      Sep 9, 2013 at 5:25 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • andy0529
      andy0529

      Which is why certain studio’s only use certain actors (JetSET and Next Door Males) test their guys before shooting and condoms only.

      Sep 9, 2013 at 5:40 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • the other Greg
      the other Greg

      @moraloral35: “of course, testing is practically unheard of” [in gay porn]

      Really? I’ve seen people assert otherwise here. I wouldn’t doubt it could be done more often, more consistently, etc. but “practically unheard of” seems unlikely.

      Sep 9, 2013 at 12:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • moraloral35
      moraloral35

      @the other Greg: Sorry, I was largely refering to the bareback side.
      As @andy0529: points out, some studios do require both testing and condom use, but this is still relatively uncommon on the ‘safe’ side of the industry.

      A prohibition on HIV positive performers, bimonthly testing, and mandatory condom use would make HIV transmission practically impossible on set. Or, they could require frequent testing, but allow HIV positive performers with small viral loads to perform with condoms (as well as requiring them for negative performers). The latter is a good option because the performers could keep their status just between themselves and industry officials without being required to disclose to the whole community. They’d also have a pretty damn low chance of transmitting HIV even if the condom breaks, slips, or if microleaks occured. (My background is in dynamic modeling/biostatistics, not public health or medicine, so I am not sure if precise viral load tests are economically viable to conduct on a large scale).

      Sep 9, 2013 at 1:19 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • andy0529
      andy0529

      (Military Hospital) We send them out (Viral loads) on large scale but only for confirmed HIV+ soldiers and their families, what Jake Cruise,some the other companies and Rod Daily used HIV viral RNA pcr which are the most sensitive and require the most special processing. This test identifies the strain (…and the person who infected you). I’m sure Daily was infected by his girlfriend who did hetro – porn which use the cheapest test. Remember Marc Wallace started out in gay porn went to straight porn with Peter North he paid to have false results sent to the studios and infected many people about 10 yrs ago.

      Sep 9, 2013 at 5:53 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • andy0529
      andy0529

      Marc Wallace tested positive in 1998, now a porn director work in het-porn for 2 yrs after.

      Sep 9, 2013 at 5:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GeriHew
      GeriHew

      @andy0529: Straight porn does not use the cheapest test.

      Rod Daily usually tests with http://www.talenttestingservice.com/
      It’s the same clinic where his girlfriend usually tested. Daily posted some of his tests from TTS on his twitter
      https://twitter.com/Rod_Daily/media/grid

      Sep 9, 2013 at 6:01 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GeriHew
      GeriHew

      @andy0529: Marc Wallace hasn’t performed in porn in this century and has only directed a handful of titles since he was identified as HIV+ by Sharon Mitchell and AIM in 1998. The last video he directed was released in 2008.

      Sep 9, 2013 at 6:09 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GeriHew
      GeriHew

      And Marc Wallace wasn’t a straight only performer either. He did a few gay and bisexual films.

      Sep 9, 2013 at 6:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • andy0529
      andy0529

      It’s a cheepo multi-test (HIV-1,RPR and HCV) the problem with these test are specificity and sensitivity and they are neither, he had the confirmatory done somewhere else. We do HIV-1/0/2 and the other test Hep acute and RPR separately. Then if positive HIV RNA-PCR.

      Sep 9, 2013 at 9:44 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • andy0529
      andy0529

      I don’t get why they rerun old samples, if neg 1st time it’s gonna be neg the 50th time.

      Sep 9, 2013 at 9:55 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GeriHew
      GeriHew

      @andy0529:

      Posted Jun 21st, 2012
      Due to concerns raised by industry members, Adult Production Health & Safety Services (APHSS.org) today announces that it will accept only the Aptima HIV-1 RNA Qualitative Assay test for monthly performer STI screening, effective August 31.

      This action comes after interaction with industry members that have expressed concerns over the “off-label” use of the Abbott RealTime HIV 1 Assay HIV PCR test. Though recommended to APHSS.org by experts for screening purposes, the Abbott test is not FDA-approved for diagnosis of acute (early) HIV infection.
      http://business.avn.com/articles/legal/APHSS-org-Announces-It-Will-Accept-Only-Aptima-PCR-RNA-Test-478974.html

      See also:
      AHF going after bareback gay porn shot in Florida
      http://business.avn.com/articles/video/AHF-Files-Complaint-Against-San-Diego-Boy-Prods-UPDATED-527979.html

      From that article:
      UPDATE: a reply was received from a spokesperson for D&E Productions, which has shot gay movies in Florida for San Diego Boys:

      D&E Productions is a gay-owned and -operated adult video production studio, operating since January, 2001. Like many studios, we were contracted by San Diego Boys studio to film adult videos. We provided the client with content to their specifications. We test all our models using industry standards and we would never endanger the lives of any of our adult models that appear in condomless porn. We hold high morals and ethics when it comes to condomless productions and the models themselves make the voluntary and final decision. It is never forced upon them and is done in the strictest sobriety.

      In addition, in 99 percent of the adult footage we do film, all our models must wear a condom to film adult content. When models request and approve doing scenes that are condomless, we test them using the AHF Foundation Insti HIV-1 Antibody test. This is the very same test that the California-based organization recommends and based on the AHF Foundation’s paperwork regarding the HIV-1 antibody test. According to AHF’s own paperwork, “This test is an FDA-approved device intended to aid in the diagnosis of the HIV-1 infection. Insti HIV-1 Antibody Test is extremely accurate in detecting the presence of the HIV-1 antibodies using blood obtained through a finger stick.” As their documents further notes, “the test result is highly reliable.”

      [Editor’s Note: According to the Free Speech Coalition and the PASS STD testing system protocols, this test is not considered reliable enough for adult performers, since it may take as long as six months for a person infected with HIV to show up as positive using the Insti HIV-1 Antibody Test or virtually any other antibody test for HIV. The PASS protocols call for use of the Aptima HIV-1 RNA Qualitative Assay test.]

      Care to comment Andy?

      Sep 10, 2013 at 3:07 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • andy0529
      andy0529

      Which is basically what I said, I also don’t get the repeated rerunning of old samples, from Mr. Daily’s tweets if it’s negative the 1st time it’s gonna negative 500th but I can see why someone would get a false impression. Aptima HIV-1 RNA probably cost more the profomer is being paid and needs to be processed stat.

      Sep 11, 2013 at 2:44 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GeriHew
      GeriHew

      @andy0529: The Aptima HIV-1 RNA Qualitative Assay test for monthly performer STI screening is what the industry in California is using, effective as of August 31 2012.

      Sep 11, 2013 at 9:32 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • truthinstuff
      truthinstuff

      @andy0529: csmeron baydoesnr have a child and if you realky want to kniw the truth then you should ask rod daily when he really tested and when he really got his resukts back. . Or maybe yiu shoukd ask hin about tge ppl he was fucking beging cameron bays back vareback or ask who his clients are.. or maybe ask him why she tested negative on july 27th and his last negative test was juky 10th . He took a at hone orak test which doesnt pick up tge virak load as soon as bkood being he did a saliva test read tge warnings yourself…

      Nov 17, 2013 at 10:18 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • truthinstuff
      truthinstuff

      Oh and so you know cameron bay was first to test because rod daiky didnt have to according to him and everyobe else since he shot condom onky… she contacted her fisrt gen which woukd include him… he then tested then sofia sofa Delgado was the 3rd to test poz….

      Nov 17, 2013 at 10:21 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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