Oh but I forget. White people are not allowed to refer to blacks as “my niggah” and other such street jargon as is featured in their noise that is passed off as music, are they? That would be racist.

Double standard???

& I really want that T-shirt that Last Offence has got on in that picture.

Plus. Yes there aren’t TONS of gay musicians on MTV constantly (but also there really isn’t TONS of music on mtv either these days)….

But they definitely always make sure to throw a gay in the real world, and other programs, etc.

Plus, I think in general things are getting a bit better. Katy Perry and her song about girls, Bruno, Miley Ray, Britney, Drew Barrymore, etc. coming out against Prop 8. Patti Smith, Tyra Banks and Isis, Kathy Griffin becoming a top show and being VERY pro-gay, That singer for Hercules and the love affair (tranny…who many of my straight guy friends are into), Anthony and the Johnsons, Gravy train (as was mentioned), etc. etc. RACHEAL MADDOW. Wanda Sykes playing the white house.

I feel like there is a road to climb, but in general, I can not say that the media is not aware of, and openly putting Pro-Gay messages out consistently. I mean when my middle america mom (straight and married 20 years) is happy to sing “I kissed a girl and I liked it” and not think twice about the lyrics…..that’s a pretty big change from even 5 years ago.

You may have heard of a guy named Kele Okereke. He’s the singer for Bloc Party, a band that has definitely been on MTV. AND he’s out, AND he goes to gay clubs in NYC (seen him), Etc. and is happily photographed at them, and open to talking about being gay.

Plus they were a GLAAD award nominee in 2008. So there’s one guy (of color), at least.

Being negative doesn’t solve the problem. It’s really just about numbers and sales. Sell enough records, and MTV will do whatever the heck makes them money.

you blooming idiot.

YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT “DOUBLE STANDARD” MEANS.

@TANK: amen.

It’s that insidious double standard! LMAO! You’re cracked.

Do you see male artists baring their backsides to the same extent that female artists do? Of course not. Do you see a male using bisexuality as a marketing ploy in the way females do? Madonna, Britney, Lady GaGa, Katy Perry etc have all done this. The men never do it.

Simply put, female artists are being marketed like bisexual porn actresses. Male artists, on the other hand, are being marketed as strictly straight. If this doesn’t reek “double standard”, I don’t know what does.

By supporting these female artists, we are essentially propping up the bisexual double standard, a double standard which plays into the hands of homophobic straight guys. We are also contributing to our own marginalization.

I could go on but hopefully the above will register in your brain.

check out Pansy Division, Limp Wrist, Seeing Red, Team Dresch, Gravy Train…stuff like that is fun.

1) you’re posting all this on a site that features “morning goods” and “gratuitous skin.” so, you’re not only stupid, you’re a hypocrite. maybe you should leave so you stop enabling male homosexual fantasy.

2) male stars bare their bodies all the time. ever heard of d’angelo? nelly? 50 cent? usher? oh wait, they’re black, so you (as a racist) probably ignore them. let me try something more your speed… kenny chesney? billy currington?

3) what exactly is evil about bikinis? misogynist much? it’s frankly incredible that you think bodies and sexuality are so evil while hoping for someone else to win rights for sexual orientation.

4) newsflash: there’s a difference between sexploitation and voluntary choices made by an artist to send a message.

5) it’s flesh-baring, not “flesh-bearing,” you dumb fuck.

There is a whole marketing strategy that has been designed for women but not for men in the music industry, and it’s designed to prop up male heterosexual fantasy. We shouldn’t be enabling it.

“I’ve never heard of any of these people before reading this thread”

Aren’t you special. I think most people here have in fact heard of these artists.

you’re a joke. nothing you write ever makes any sense.

Just because a black straight gay male sings about women doesn’t mean he’s trying to prove his heterosexuality. He’s just singing about his life as it is. Now there are some black males who are homophobic and say fag and all other kinds of homophobic things, but that is not every black male singer. But merely writing a song about women doesn’t make you homophobic. Usher, Kayne West sing about women but aren’t derogatory about gays.

And the absolute worst offender when it comes to homophobia is a white rapper. Eminem.

Liberalism? Wow, I think that would be the conservative nature of the music industry.

Wow, that’s an incredible cheap shot at Rod 2.0, especially since many black gay men really can’t come to queerty to rely on positive news about black people generally or gaby black people specifically.

Second of all, I am highly insulted at your take on “Miss drugged out Whitney Houston” since I am also a recovering addict (13+ clean) and I wish Miss Whitney nothing but the best as she attempts her comeback. If my crackhead ass can stay clean and become a better person in the process, then so can she and I wish her all the luck in the world. Active addiction is not a disease that I would wish on my worse enemy.

Having said all of that, I do agree with you that afrolito is being a bit snide in this case.

Over on Rod2.0 do you see things like this? Queerty posts this but the best they can muster is Ms. drugged out ass Whitney Houston.

How about on the Daily Voice, a site that NEVER posts anything that is not tilted toward race (with blacks always the “victim”).

You are just an ungrateful, hate filled queen who loves playing the roll of the victim. When Queerty does not post things like this your comments have a lot to do with why they chose to pass on it. I do hope you are a white person trying to pass as a black person just to be evil and start shit.

If you are black you really need to do sit down and just read the comments but shut up.

99.9% of the people in this country haven’t heard of The Velvet Underground or A Tribe Called Quest either. Care to discuss their influence?

Thank you for posting that. This old school queen will learn a lot from it I’m sure.

The simple fact is this: we’ve become dysfunctional. We’ve become enablers of male heterosexual fantasy. And we fail to criticize the liberals who are promoting this notion.

Wake up, gay guys. Stop acting like a bunch of timid losers. It’s time to take our criticism up to liberals.

The music industry is complicit in a culture war against gay/bi men. It’s how liberalism operates. Liberalism – which incorporates the entertainment industry – is about marginalizing and ignoring gay/bi men. Liberals are terrified of the notion of an openly gay/bi man marketing his sexuality in music videos and song lyrics. Record label execs won’t allow it.

However, if you’re a female, you get a bit of a pass. It’s the bisexual double standard, the defining hypocrisy of liberalism.

@Chitown Kev: don’t mind jason, he’s an idiot.

@afrolito: are you serious? EVERYONE’S heard me’shell’s music. she did a grammy-nominated duet with mellencamp for fuck’s sake. we all got sick of that song a decade ago, remember?

as for the rest of ‘em, they ain’t going anywhere if they talk about orgasms while pissing, making asses bleed, etc. that’s narsty, gay OR straight.

There is hope though. Hell, even Can You Duet? which is on a country network and is turning out country stars has a very questionable (most likely gay) guy leading the show with a male duo partner. Hearing the two sing love songs together is amazing. Sometimes you got to wonder who the questionable one is singing to. However, even if he is gay I don’t see the guy actually coming out any time soon.

The simple fact is this: MTV and the music industry are engaging in a culture war against gay/bi men. They loathe us, and avoid us like the plague.

In general, I wanna fill Queerty with more people of color, trans, and lesbians. They’re some fun, fine folks who deserve more mainstream exposure, eh?

I agree that these artists may not crack the mainstream, but I think the important thing is that we realize that “we” have alternatives to what is currently out there.