You will go see Sex and the City 2 because that is what homosexuals, just like the rest of America and perhaps the world (with the exception of the Middle East) will do, because we are sheep and we do what Michael Patrick King wants. You will not like it very much, at least not as much as the first film, and certainly not Seasons 4 and 5. And now I will tell you why. (Possible spoilers ahead.)
5. The gay wedding between Anthony and Stanford wasn’t just unbelievable (in the not able to believe way), it was atrocious. Is this what passes for camp these days? Actual swans, choir boys, and when you get enough gays in the room Liza Minellli just “manifests”? (Actually that was a funny line.) Not to mention the whole thing centered around Anthony’s belief that he’s going to continue to cheat after they’re married, because what gay male couple doesn’t sleep with other people.
4. Too much menopause. We get it, Samantha, you’re going through the changes. But must every other punchline be about yams and pills? For a whole scene there you had orange Dioscorea around your lips in what looked like a bizarre herpes flair-up.
3. Jason Lewis only appears shirtless in one scene. (But the giant boner and bare butt of the sophisticated older gent Samantha bangs helps make up for it.)
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2. The stereotypes about Muslim men and women in the Middle East are about as flagrant, obvious, and stale as the stereotypes about gays. One of the butler’s names was Abdul. “Like Paula.” Jesus.
1. Liza Minelli singing “Single Ladies.” Yes, it was that bad, even with moving pictures to distract from the audio.
But the No.1 reason to see SATC 2? Cynthia Nixon playing Miranda. Among all the ladies, her physical appearance was the most flawless (Kristin Davis the most … exhausted). She received some of the best lines and managed to steal almost every scene.
Hilarious
I was just going to skip it because I have a penis.
fredo777
if you didn’t want us to still watch, probably shouldn’t have mentioned this sophisticated older gent’s impressive bulge +/or naked butt.
Ummmm
ummm where is Kim Cattrall in that bus ad?
Random Rashes
It’s a Hag-a-licious Minstrel Show.
CharlesinCharge
Oh oh, this looks bad: Abu Dhabi, Single Ladies, Botox galore.
Ken S
I never ‘got’ the gay appeal of Sex and the City. One of my roommates watches it so I’ve seen a few episodes and sure, there’s some witty dialog and there are some hot guys, and those two things are always fun… but at its core it’s still the story of Four Urban Straight Chicks Getting Laid (alternate title FTW!). So aside from the catchy turns-of-phrase and the occasional cute guy’s bum and the “power of friendship” trope, how’s the core premise supposed to appeal to me as someone who’s neither straight nor a chick?
Jason
@Ken S: Cocktails, superficiality, materialism, gossip, status, hobnobbing, the appearance of depth of personality when there’s not much there, the lifted inflection of “oooooooh!”…that’s why it appeals…and that’s why it’s SAD that it does.
Alexander A.
Sex and the City 2: Sandy Faginas
dvlaries
Well, I guess this means I’m gonna be drummed out of the club any day now, because I didn’t even watch it when it was on HBO. I wasn’t about to sit and watch horse face –guess which one- for an hour in the comfort of home, so sure ain’t going to some noisy, unruly, cell-phone ringin’ theater for the bitch either.
My only regret is that maybe the series gave us some Chris Noth tush that I missed (did it?) But I liked and fantasied him as Mike Logan, not degrading himself with some desperate, near-menopausal clotheshorse.
Keep it.
WiseUp
The first film I watched on HBO on Demand and couldn’t even finish it. It was even more boring than that stupid show. Do gay men really like this stuff, or is it just sort of pushed on us?
christopher di spirito
By all accounts, S&TC 2.0 is a stinker. Critics have attacked it like a hyena eating a baby wildebeest.
I’ll watch it but, I have enough impulse control to wait 3 weeks until it turns up on ‘Movies on Demand.’
jason
The women look like repulsive stereotypes. Long, teased hair. Bosom-revealing tops. Open-mouthed poses. LOL. How sad. It’s even sadder that gay men have contributed to this drek.
Jon
While I don’t love Sex and the City, it is a very gay show. I’m not sure what happens here on Queerty. There are always negative comments about things that have ALWAYS been gay. Anytime there’s a piece about Madonna there are tons of negative comments about her. I’m only 35. Am I too old for this website? Is the average age of people commenting 20? It seems that no one here has any sense of history or camp or even FUN. WTF? Lighten the fuck up!
Mike Fourth
This entire series is absolute bullshit.
SouLKid
Queerty and the critics can go choke on a dildo. Im going to watch Sex & The City and i’ll be getting the HD DVD when it comes out. And wait for the 3rd one!
Jimmi
@Jon: Right? There is a very Anti-Gay, Anti-Woman vibe going on here.
Jon
@Jimmi: Yes, very much so. I think it’s about conforming and the people on this site sort of want to put things that are traditionally gay in the corner. They want to fit in with the rest of society, so anything the least bit flamboyant has to go. To me, it’s really about self hatred and fear. I don’t care to live in that world and it’s sad that so many young gay people want to hide their identity just to fit in. A hundred steps backward.
Zach
@Jimmi: @Jimmi:
So anyone who doesn’t like Sex and the City is homophobic? What’s your next move? Are you going to go after gays who read books as opposed to just magazines? Or spend their income on something other than clothes?
You know what’s homophobic? Sex and the City. And to the extent that it’s actually about gay people, and not tired stereotypes about what gay people like, the show always treated gay men as fashion accessories for vapid, privileged straight women. I’m not sure what’s worse; the internalized homophobia in believing that being gay means being vapid, or the runaway sexism in suggesting that every group of women needs a sexless manservant to coddle them.
Zach
@Jon:
Shopping and flamboyance are not an inherent part of every gay man’s identity. By perpetuating that stereotype, you’re keeping a lot of gay and bisexual men in the closet.
Baxter
I couldn’t make it through one episode, let alone an entire movie.
Lookyloo
@Jon: I think many gay men (like me) are tired of ALWAYS being expected to like and be involved with stereotypical gay things – so there’s a bit of a backlash.. which I wholly support. My friends and I are into ‘gay’ things like Green Day, video games, and Ultimate Fighting. As far as TV goes, though we’re not fanatics, we appreciate Southland (on tnt) because Benjamin McKenzie is hot and Michael Cudlitz plays a very positive view of an ‘out’ cop. Oh yeah, I’m 40.
Lookyloo
@Zach: Exactly.
WiseUp
It’s not even just the subject matter I find so uninteresting, but it’s the quality of the show. I’m young, but I watch lots of old films on Turner Classic Movies, and there are lots where females are the stars. But the stories and the actresses are good! Can you compare Barbara Stanwyck or Joan Crawford to these half-assed nothings on Sex and the City? Sara Jessica Parker? What’s with the three names? And she could be sitting right across from me on the subway and I wouldn’t recognize her. They’re all so forgettable-looking. Look, if you like it, more power to you. My brother, after all, liked that stupid Dukes Of Hazard. But why is this show/movie pushed at us like it’s some “gay man’s must.”
Jon
@Zach: Ummmm…NO! What keeps people in the closet is lack of courage and lack of self respect. Nobody can keep you in a closet unless you want to be there.
7
@Jon: Foolish. There are so many things that can keep you in the closet, I’m not even going to try to list them. “Lack of courage and self-respect”, please.
Jimmi
@Zach: You whip up a lot of Gay Drama for someone who isn’t a queen. I am saying that there is a lot of condemnation being thrown at the gays who wont play Straightie. The Straight Acting queers are oppressing those of us who aren’t and it is because they dislike themselves for being gay.
You just throw all of this class warfare into the mix. The women I have known have been and are my friends. During the First AIDS Crisis many straight women stepped in and helped care for their friends and raise money for the cause. Would you label them so harshly?
People aren’t fashion accessories. I have and sustain many rewarding relationships with people who are allies in my struggle for acceptance.
Your agenda is one where if people aren’t in step with your theories about class, gender and expressing their sexuality–you lump them into one category.
And if me and my kind have enough power to keep people IN the closet–shouldn’t the reverse be true?
Jimmi
@Lookyloo: I have never expected anyone to like “gay things” (whatever that is.) I just want acceptance and respect like all of us do and not to be treated like a pariah because I wont play Straight Acting (which is an act.)
I like Green Day (especially for their brave and wonderful American Idiot album which stood up to the Right Wing and Billie Joe looks wonderful in eyeliner), baseball, shopping, reading books, fashion, make-up, women’s movies and playing video games and I am 47. What does that mean?
Jimmi
@Jon: You have that right. If you can’t respect yourself, like yourself and are too afraid to stand up for yourself–don’t expect other to do it for you.
Jai
Jimmi, why do you assume that any gay man that isn’t stereotypically “gay” is “straight acting”? There is a HUGE difference between a “straight acting” gay man and a masculine gay man.
Btw, I’m not a manly-man myself, never claimed to be. But as much as I’m annoyed by gay idiots who proudly say they are “straight acting”, I am also annoyed by femme gays who believe that masculinity does not exist at all in gay men period. We are all different, and we should embrace that.
ewe
That Sarah Jessica Parker is one UGLY DOG. She obviously has an army of publicists behind her and she said years ago it’s all smoke and mirrors. If she is going to hold herself up as some sex goddess then she is open to criticism. WOOF. DOG. BLAH. UGLY. I am tired of having her thrown into the public consciousness as sexy. She is the furthest thing from attractive.
jason
Sex and the City is a crime against humanity. Kim Cattrall should be imprisoned for helping to market this drek. Sorry, Kim, but you’re a vile person who has NOT contributed to girl power. You’ve contributed to the bank accounts of the fashion houses and cosmetics companies, but not much else.
It’s also a great insight into the brains of women and gay men. Vanity, self-obsession, over-sexualization, sleaze, materialism…it’s all there. All of the vulgar aspects of the human condition are encapsulated by women and gay men.
Perhaps our ancestors had good reason for criminalizing homosexuality and keeping women in the kitchen. It might have been a necessity designed to prevent the deplorable behavior we now see in women and gay men around the world.
Jon
@7: Closets have doors. All you have to do is open it and step outside. I wish you the courage to someday find the self respect to do that.
Fitz
I was so disgusted by the first movie– I have no idea how my friends enjoyed it. It was like Ab Fab, only not a joke. Disgusting self-obsessed princesses right out of a 1940’s movie. They pretended to be strong, but were leaves in the wind for love. Yuck, disgusting.. if you see women like that, run them over. Take their jewelry and feed a small country. yuck.
Aaron
@Fitz: Well said, fitz. Couldn’t agree more.
Lookyloo
@Jimmi: What is this ‘straight acting’ you keep referring to? Are you implying that because some gay men walk and talk a particular way and have certain behavioral characteristics they are being phony and not true to themselves?
Tommy
Generally, I don’t like stereotypically “gay ” things either, but I loved the series on HBO. It wasn’t just stereotypical, it was done with cleverness and intelligence.
But if all you know about SATC is the movies, then I can see why people don’t like it. Neither of the movies really do the series justice and have turned the woman into cartoons. The series wasn’t like that. They should have just quit after the series on HBO. But I guess there was so too money being offered.
ps1510
There isn’t enough money in the world that would get me to go see this movie. The final word on Sex and the City still belongs to Stewie Griffin on Family Guy:
“You know…. that show about the three whores and their mother.”
Jimmi
@Jai: And Jon, too.
If I am assuming, it is because of the amount of grief that I usually get from the Community (my local and the online one) from many gay men who describe themselves as Straight Acting and Straight Appearing and are derisive of Gay Men who do “act gay” or are effeminate. It doesn’t describe a whole collective of people but more and more gays are copping to it. It seems like an epidemic.
It gets to a whole question of what “Gay” means anymore and so many men are saying that they are Anti-Gay and describing themselves as M4M. Things like “shopping”, liking entertainment, gossip, et al are “Gay.” Terms like “Real men”, “All men”, etc.
It seems that many Men are using words like “Masculine”, “SA/SA”, blah blah blah to describe themselves and putting down men who are not. When a man who is not and happens to be Fem opens their mouth to say “Why are you being so oppressive?”; suddenly you are a “gay stereotype” or have the power to keep other gay men in the closet!
There have been books like Anti-Gay and Androphillia written on the subject. There has been this vibe that smacks of homophobia that starts getting pervasive.
I don’t give a fuck if you don’t like SATC or not. It seems like if someone gay loves it–they have a problem with being to “gay” whatever. There is a tone underneath that makes me wonder did I fight in Gay Rights all these years to be dismissed so easily as silly queen by men who are more concerned blending in and being SA.
I think there should be room for us all to co-exist and accept each other. My best gay Friend is a masculine guy who accepts me for being an effeminate man and has gotten shit for hanging around me because I am “too gay.” I know he could care less about SATC as I could care less about Football. Yet, we connect on other levels over deeper things. we are each other’s confidants. We have both been in long-term gay male relationships for many years with the same man. My husband who is mechanical, likes football and sports, action movies accepts me as I am. I know he doesn’t care about chick flicks, art films, fashion, etc. But he loves me. And we have compromised over the years. He did watch SATC the series and thought some of it was good. I liked some of the Die Hard series.
Tommy
I think some of you are too rigid in your catergories. I don’t really fit into either. I don’t consider myself either effeminate or super masculine. I’m just a regular guy. Most gay men I know are the same. I like fashion and shopping, but nothing too outrageous, flamboyant and don’t wear makeup.
I like some stereotypical “gay” music like Madonna and Gaga, but some not like Green Day and Stone Temple Pilots.
I don’t know how to work on my car, but like interior design, but I also like watching football. You can like both feminine and masculine things. It’s not always an either/or.
Most gay men and a lot of straight men for that matter are neither very effeminate or super macho. But the media only shows one extreme or the other.
Zach
@Jimmi:
I’m not “playing” straight, I’m who I want to be. You’re the one who keeps throwing “straight-acting” around. You’re the one who thinks every gay man who isn’t flamboyant and all about Sex and the City is being inauthentic. You’re the one assuming a collective identity for gays beyond sexual orientation, and trying to squelch anyone who dares to act different.
I’m sorry we’re not all so rigid and endlessly judgmental as yourself. And I’m sorry I’m not living up to the homosexual rulebook by not liking a shallow and offensive television show about a bunch of spoiled white girls.
Zach
@Jimmi:
“It gets to a whole question of what “Gay” means anymore”
Being gay means being homosexual. Being homosexual means being attracted to your own sex. That’s it. Stop trying to impose your own identity on others.
clark
Good grief! Take it outside, ladies.
GaryG
@ps1510: Actually, it was Brian, not Stewie who said that.
Jimmi
@Zach: Zach, dear, take your meds.
Jimmi
@Zach: But I want to impose my identity on the world! I wont be happy until every person on this planet looks like me!I am gonna Fem the Gay World like Dr. Evil in Austin Powers with a big Fricken’ Laser. Thank you for giving me so much power!
jeff m
why does everybody veer away from the subject? the original series was great…acting, writing, chemistry, all of it. and won the emmys to support it. the movies aside, it will go down as a groundbreaking television show. just because you don’t think so, doesn’t make it so.
Zach
@Jimmi:
What a substantive and witty rebuttal. Clearly, all those years of shopping and making zero contributions to society have honed your wit to the point that you never actually have to respond to anything anyone writes.
Zach
@Jimmi:
No, you don’t want every person to be like you. But you seriously believe that deep down gay men are all flaming queens, and that anyone who detests Sex and the City – thinks it’s laughably and offensively bad in fact – are lying to themselves about their ‘true nature’. You refuse to accept the fact that gay men might differ in interests, might actually not want to be a stereotype.
Jimmi
@Zach: Zach–you are so correct! I think all gay men a flaming queens! I know they are! I can’t believe any gay man is interested in anything else but perfume, lipsticks, pretty dresses and the like. I do refuse to accept it! I just know deep down there is an inner drag queen screeching to be heard! I know all of these flaming men are secretly watching Sex In The City on their iPods in the linen closet, stuffing a tea towel in their moths to keep from crying out.
I feel sad for you because you are such a bitter person. Bitterness causes wrinkles. Not a good thing at all. You need a day with the girls!
scott ny'er
@Tommy: @jeff m: Finally got see the movie. It was ok. Just like the 1st one. What I didn’t like about both of them was the characters acted in ways that seemed to forgot the progress they made in the series. It’s frustrating to see characters devolve.
And I agree. What some people don’t get or don’t want to get is that SATC series had great stories, acting, drama and comedy (and yes some really handsome guys). It was a series about finding love and what happens when looking for it. That’s why I liked it. It resonated with me and my life and I totally dug it.