Some are women who prey on girls! “A lesbian paedophile aged 26 preyed on schoolgirls after pretending she was just 15, a court heard yesterday. Baby-faced Kelly Bavister-Gandy sexually abused three youngsters after winning their trust and buying them booze, a trial was told. Bavister-Gandy allegedly had consensual sexual relationships with the girls – sharing a bed with them, giving them lovebites, and touching them intimately. She was said to have promised a 13-year-old that they would run away together and get married when the girl turned 16.” You’re free to take issue with branding the suspect a lesbian. [Sun]
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D'oh, The Magnificent
The vast bulk of cases involve heterosexuals. Men who prey on girls. Women who prey on men. That’s the vast bulk. The writer of the article above however can feel free to ignorantly use anecdote as data. It is the American way at this point to have opinion just like an asshole.
terrwill
@D’oh, The Magnificent: Correct. Statistics have shown many times that at least 70 or 80 percent of child molestation cases are committed by heterosexuals.
Hilarious
The difference is no one cares unless homosexuality is involved, including the parents of said children many times.
It’s no different than articles that say “Same-Sex Scandal!” to draw attention. Would anyone read an article that said “Opposite-Sex Scandal!”? No.
It’s sick, sad, and pathetic, but the bottom line once again comes down to people hating homosexuality.
Makes me sick to my stomach, but you’ll find little reaction to stories about opposite sex molestation. I know it for a fact because it happened to me.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@terrwill: @Hilarious: Sadly, you are both right. In the case, of women attacking boys, the argument is that well the boy got lucky. As if a 12 year old boy can not be molested. And with women, it will depend on the age. If under 13, then they may see it as molestation, but I have heard people say (and this is anecdote), “well she was 14, and therefore she was no child). I would add that this is more than just homophobia- although it is at its core. It is a representation of how society views sex itself and gender. We live on a crass planet where children are married off in their teens in some societies. That’s why you have all these people making excuses for Roman Polanski.
B
No. 4 · D’oh, The Magnificent wrote, “We live on a crass planet where children are married off in their teens in some societies. That’s why you have all these people making excuses for Roman Polanski.”
People are not making excuses for Roman Polanski’s conduct. Read
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/International/roman-polanski-arrest-spurred-debate-questions-support/story?id=8699053 :
“Polanski took a deal and pleaded guilty to one count of unlawful sexual intercourse and served 42 days in a California jail where he was psychologically evaluated. He has admitted he had sex with 13-year-old Samantha Geimer after plying her with champagne and Quaaludes at the home of actor Jack Nicholson.
“‘Roman was incarcerated. Roman did time in a state prison,’ Berg said. ‘My feeling to his critics is you have to look at a much more complex situation surrounding this case.’
“Now in her 40s, Geimer has said she forgives Polanski and doesn’t think he should face further jail time.
“Berg said Polanski fled the country in 1978 only after learning during a discussion with the district attorney outside a Los Angeles courtroom that the judge in his case was preparing to sentence him to a long prison term despite the plea deal.
“Polanski’s rights were violated, Berg said, and the case was ‘plagued with prosecutorial and judicial misconduct.'”
Also read http://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2009/09/roman-polanski-sordid-charges-and-a-troubled-trial.html
It seems Polanski behaved badly, but so did the judge and maybe the prosecutor. It’s possible for someone to believe that it is wrong for legal system to play “bait and switch” and renege on a plea bargain, even if one also believes that the agreed upon sentence was way too lenient.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@B: Bullshit. If this were a man on boy situation the story would read entirely differently. You don’t get it,a nd you never will. And I am uninterested in how you think the judge acted. We don’t let people flee the country in other cases because of how a judge acts. We give them another trial, amongst other remedies. THe most insulting thing from a criminal justice stand point is all these people runing to support this guy because he is famous ignore that there are thousands of other actual injustices that happen in our legal system that none of you gives a shit about. So spare me the faux sense of justice here. He drugged and raped a girl. end of story. I have heard the same sorts of excuses by the way for amongst other R Kelly to name one. Its a double standard that apparentl you are willing to propectuate.
Robert, NYC
No. 3 Hilarious….also, when its a male molesting an underage girl, the perpetrator’s sexual orientation is never mentioned even though its apparent. How often do we hear..”straight pedophile molests girls”? NEVER! Yet when its one of our own, then the target is homosexuality and all of the denigration, villification and dehumanization that ensues in the media, and among the public and religious cults to use as fodder to deny us equality. Even with pedophilia we’re discriminated against unlike our straight counterparts. Its homophobia pure and simple.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@Robert, NYC: I once had a person justify this as “that’s because although this is wrong and the person should go to jail, the bible says straight sex is okay.” THis is how deep the screwed up beliefs go.
Robert, NYC
No. 8, D’Oh, I remember watching the Phil Donohue show some time during the 80s. Pedophilia happened to be the topic of the day. Donohue asked a woman in the audience about it and she told him that male on female pedophilia isn’t as bad as male on male, go figure. I think the vast majority of the public view pedophilia as more of a gay issue than a straight one, aided and abetted primarily by the Roman cult and other right wing thinking retards that we find among the teabaggers most of whom vote republican.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@Robert, NYC: I think it is more fundamental than that. I think it is about the fact that they can understand heterosexuality. More fundamentally this is about gender roles. Thus, they will justify it even in the circumstances of evil. Look at how they used to treat rape. At its core, a lot of the problem that many have, including many who are non-religious, is that they want us to play along in their gender role games. They don’t know how to handle variation from that. A lot of the times the response over why it is acceptable for heteros to commit these evils arises out of some kind of gender assumptions. Well men love sex so the boy can’t be raped by a woman. Well she must have been asking for it since women entice so there is no problem with that man attacking that 13 year old. Through gay in there and you mess with what they think of as normal desire and that allows the homophobia to percolate to the surface.
Bill Perdue
The catholic cult has a handy-dandy explanation of the rape of children by priests (and bishops).
Tenerife Bishop Bernando Alvarez says “There are 13 year old adolescents who are under age and who are perfectly in agreement with, and what’s more wanting it, and if you are careless they will even provoke you… “
I wonder if the good bishop is speaking from experience. Do you suppose what he really means is that those nasty little altar boys made him do it?
http://www.thecatholiccoverup.com/article.php/20100409030438347?query=tenerife+
Robert, NYC
No, 10, D’Oh….quite right! Its a double standard, no question about that. The majority of them are really quite stupid.
Did you watch the Bill Maher show a couple of weeks back? Pedophilia and the Vatican was the topic. Bill, although I love the man and his politics, wrecklessly insinuated that this was a gay issue in the cult. I was so angry at him. He has never mentioned the molestation of females by priests, not once or that pedophilia in general isn’t a gay issue. It took Wanda Sykes to address it on her show last week. Shame on Bill for not putting it in context.
Robert, NYC
No. 11, Bill….I’m sure you’re right about that. Now I wonder if Papa Ratzi has dabbled a bit, all of that protestation that is so transparent.
D'oh, The Magnificent
I think the Catholic thing has less to do with orientation, and a lot more to do with opportunity. What I mean is that the structure of the church itself allows for such behavior to occur more easily than between different gender pairings. But that’s just a guess. I don’t know enough about the Church.