Comments on: Alan Moore Didn’t Just Make Comics an Art Form, He Made Them Gay, Too http://www.queerty.com/alan-moore-didnt-just-make-comics-an-art-form-he-made-them-gay-too-20090304/ Free of an agenda. Except that gay one. Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:46:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: scott ny'er http://www.queerty.com/alan-moore-didnt-just-make-comics-an-art-form-he-made-them-gay-too-20090304/#comment-267299 scott ny'er Sat, 06 Feb 2010 06:10:55 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=42808#comment-267299 I did not know this about Alan Moore. So, thanks to this thread. I did not know this about Alan Moore. So, thanks to this thread.

]]> By: Martine http://www.queerty.com/alan-moore-didnt-just-make-comics-an-art-form-he-made-them-gay-too-20090304/#comment-267289 Martine Sat, 06 Feb 2010 05:20:55 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=42808#comment-267289 I swear Alan Moore is like the messiah of all the people that were picked on in high school or something! He hates attractive, confident women, who are not afraid of having some fun with their looks. He hates athletic, strong, confident men who don't feel the need of asking a woman before kissing her. He hates bad asses. He likes people who play the tuba, are gay, have bad hair, have a bad attitude and have pimples. So of course he likes gay characters. Especially ones who would have been beaten to a pulp during recess.Honestly the whole anti establishment communist whacko thing gets tiring. I swear Alan Moore is like the messiah of all the people that were picked on in high school or something! He hates attractive, confident women, who are not afraid of having some fun with their looks. He hates athletic, strong, confident men who don’t feel the need of asking a woman before kissing her. He hates bad asses. He likes people who play the tuba, are gay, have bad hair, have a bad attitude and have pimples. So of course he likes gay characters. Especially ones who would have been beaten to a pulp during recess.Honestly the whole anti establishment communist whacko thing gets tiring.

]]> By: the cheekster http://www.queerty.com/alan-moore-didnt-just-make-comics-an-art-form-he-made-them-gay-too-20090304/#comment-129831 the cheekster Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:40:36 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=42808#comment-129831 Kat, are you talking about the lesbian couple where it ends with the butch one beating the crap out of the fem one. Yeah, that's not what I would consider pro-gay. I'm not saying that Moore isn't gay friendly but Watchmen isn't a good example of it. I'm still tempted to see the movie. The previews look really good. Kat, are you talking about the lesbian couple where it ends with the butch one beating the crap out of the fem one. Yeah, that’s not what I would consider pro-gay. I’m not saying that Moore isn’t gay friendly but Watchmen isn’t a good example of it.

I’m still tempted to see the movie. The previews look really good.

]]> By: Claire http://www.queerty.com/alan-moore-didnt-just-make-comics-an-art-form-he-made-them-gay-too-20090304/#comment-129762 Claire Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:32:37 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=42808#comment-129762 Yeah he was gay friendly.. shame he couldn't extend it to his female characters... Cos most of his stuff is rampantly anti-women Yeah he was gay friendly.. shame he couldn’t extend it to his female characters… Cos most of his stuff is rampantly anti-women

]]> By: Kat http://www.queerty.com/alan-moore-didnt-just-make-comics-an-art-form-he-made-them-gay-too-20090304/#comment-129421 Kat Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:24:01 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=42808#comment-129421 @The Cheekster: Watchmen has a line of homosexuality running through the back of it. There's a lesbian couple for whom you see their entire passion played out in the background before the disaster strikes. He didn't need to include them, he could have just made the cabbie a dude, but he wanted to show that all types of people have to survive together and love one another. @The Cheekster: Watchmen has a line of homosexuality running through the back of it. There’s a lesbian couple for whom you see their entire passion played out in the background before the disaster strikes. He didn’t need to include them, he could have just made the cabbie a dude, but he wanted to show that all types of people have to survive together and love one another.

]]> By: Mark http://www.queerty.com/alan-moore-didnt-just-make-comics-an-art-form-he-made-them-gay-too-20090304/#comment-129268 Mark Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:20:28 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=42808#comment-129268 "LGBT-adjacent." Loved it. “LGBT-adjacent.”

Loved it.

]]> By: Angelo Ventura http://www.queerty.com/alan-moore-didnt-just-make-comics-an-art-form-he-made-them-gay-too-20090304/#comment-129263 Angelo Ventura Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:22:56 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=42808#comment-129263 Not my type of graphic novel at all, sorry. Not my type of graphic novel at all, sorry.

]]> By: Shark http://www.queerty.com/alan-moore-didnt-just-make-comics-an-art-form-he-made-them-gay-too-20090304/#comment-129086 Shark Thu, 05 Mar 2009 02:19:06 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=42808#comment-129086 @<a href="#comment-128834" rel="nofollow">the cheekster</a>: Be glad that the hardcore fans aren't hear to read that. I love Watchmen. I love how Dollar Bill died because of a wardrobe malfunction. I love how fickle truly humanity is. I love the Black Freighter and how it paralleled the main antagonist's own dark path. Maybe you'll reread it in a few years and appreciate it more. @the cheekster: Be glad that the hardcore fans aren’t hear to read that. I love Watchmen. I love how Dollar Bill died because of a wardrobe malfunction. I love how fickle truly humanity is. I love the Black Freighter and how it paralleled the main antagonist’s own dark path.

Maybe you’ll reread it in a few years and appreciate it more.

]]> By: julian http://www.queerty.com/alan-moore-didnt-just-make-comics-an-art-form-he-made-them-gay-too-20090304/#comment-128970 julian Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:40:22 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=42808#comment-128970 Young Avengers is fucking awesome. Hulking + Wiccan forever! Young Avengers is fucking awesome. Hulking + Wiccan forever!

]]> By: Jayme http://www.queerty.com/alan-moore-didnt-just-make-comics-an-art-form-he-made-them-gay-too-20090304/#comment-128947 Jayme Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:35:42 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=42808#comment-128947 Moore quit one of his first projects, "Maxwell the Magic Cat" because the post that carried it made an openly anti-gay statement. What a good man to stand up for what's right. And WATCHMEN is an astonishing work, so deep and philosophical. I learned a lot by reading this book. I've found in my Philosophy studies there is so much application of this book to the world. I would hug Alan Moore if I could, but I'm not sure he'd be super enthralled about it... Moore quit one of his first projects, “Maxwell the Magic Cat” because the post that carried it made an openly anti-gay statement.
What a good man to stand up for what’s right.

And WATCHMEN is an astonishing work, so deep and philosophical. I learned a lot by reading this book. I’ve found in my Philosophy studies there is so much application of this book to the world.

I would hug Alan Moore if I could, but I’m not sure he’d be super enthralled about it…

]]> By: Synnerman http://www.queerty.com/alan-moore-didnt-just-make-comics-an-art-form-he-made-them-gay-too-20090304/#comment-128853 Synnerman Wed, 04 Mar 2009 18:23:29 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=42808#comment-128853 RE: The Cheekster: Watchmen isn't a shiny happy superhero story. It was one of the first major deconstructive works of the comic genre (not novels, which had a bit of a jump start) and after 20 years and myriad books and movies that came after, the conflicted hero is not "new" anymore. It is not a happy story about happy people. If the movie gets that right, that will be a leap in itself since according to the director the stuidio wanted it to be turned into a Fantastic Four-like franchise. RE: The Cheekster:

Watchmen isn’t a shiny happy superhero story. It was one of the first major deconstructive works of the comic genre (not novels, which had a bit of a jump start) and after 20 years and myriad books and movies that came after, the conflicted hero is not “new” anymore.

It is not a happy story about happy people. If the movie gets that right, that will be a leap in itself since according to the director the stuidio wanted it to be turned into a Fantastic Four-like franchise.

]]> By: the cheekster http://www.queerty.com/alan-moore-didnt-just-make-comics-an-art-form-he-made-them-gay-too-20090304/#comment-128834 the cheekster Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:32:37 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=42808#comment-128834 In anticipation of the movie and based on all the raves about the graphic novel, I read Watchmen last week. I hated it. It was depressing. I couldn't connect with any of the characters. It dragged on forever. The added fictional materials seemed overindulgent. Which it probably wouldn't have if I had cared about the characters. I don't mind my superheroes or just plain heroes to be angsty or conflicted or even be anti-heroes but I do need to be able to root for them. I need some sense of nobility, of helping, of trying to be good. Reading Watchmen at best these "heroes" left me empty, at worst I hated them. I loved V for Vendetta but I don't see where Watchmen was at all gay friendly. In anticipation of the movie and based on all the raves about the graphic novel, I read Watchmen last week. I hated it. It was depressing. I couldn’t connect with any of the characters. It dragged on forever. The added fictional materials seemed overindulgent. Which it probably wouldn’t have if I had cared about the characters.

I don’t mind my superheroes or just plain heroes to be angsty or conflicted or even be anti-heroes but I do need to be able to root for them. I need some sense of nobility, of helping, of trying to be good. Reading Watchmen at best these “heroes” left me empty, at worst I hated them.

I loved V for Vendetta but I don’t see where Watchmen was at all gay friendly.

]]> By: mikeandrewsdantescove http://www.queerty.com/alan-moore-didnt-just-make-comics-an-art-form-he-made-them-gay-too-20090304/#comment-128825 mikeandrewsdantescove Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:05:43 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=42808#comment-128825 I just have to say the man running Warner Brothers is an absolute dickhead. I commend the movie for doing something for the gay audience. Can I see head in that BLUE costume? My friend Michael thinks so. Mike New Pat Bateman Video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAYJH8vXpc4 I just have to say the man running Warner Brothers is an absolute dickhead. I commend the movie for doing something for the gay audience. Can I see head in that BLUE costume? My friend Michael thinks so.

Mike

New Pat Bateman Video –

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAYJH8vXpc4

]]> By: Brendan D. http://www.queerty.com/alan-moore-didnt-just-make-comics-an-art-form-he-made-them-gay-too-20090304/#comment-128818 Brendan D. Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:45:27 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=42808#comment-128818 Happy to see Moore's queer-friendly resume getting some attention. My only quibble is with the repeated assertions that his progressive views are "not bad" for someone "writing Swamp Thing." I get the idea, most people think of comics as pulp lit, etc., but the point feels a little harped-upon. One of the notable things about Moore's Watchmen is that it was one of the first graphic novels to be recognized as a valid work of literature in itself. Is it so shocking to discover that someone who writes comics for a living could have complex and interesting thoughts and opinions? Happy to see Moore’s queer-friendly resume getting some attention. My only quibble is with the repeated assertions that his progressive views are “not bad” for someone “writing Swamp Thing.” I get the idea, most people think of comics as pulp lit, etc., but the point feels a little harped-upon. One of the notable things about Moore’s Watchmen is that it was one of the first graphic novels to be recognized as a valid work of literature in itself. Is it so shocking to discover that someone who writes comics for a living could have complex and interesting thoughts and opinions?

]]> By: pilly http://www.queerty.com/alan-moore-didnt-just-make-comics-an-art-form-he-made-them-gay-too-20090304/#comment-128813 pilly Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:39:26 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=42808#comment-128813 Its a great graphic novel...just bought it yesterday...there was a cool one that came out in the early 90s called 'give me liberty' .. check it out. Its a great graphic novel…just bought it yesterday…there was a cool one that came out in the early 90s called ‘give me liberty’ .. check it out.

]]> By: Alex http://www.queerty.com/alan-moore-didnt-just-make-comics-an-art-form-he-made-them-gay-too-20090304/#comment-128797 Alex Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:03:56 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=42808#comment-128797 @<a href="#comment-128754" rel="nofollow">hardmannyc</a>: Yes. Or at least, no one who's read Watchman feels that way. @hardmannyc: Yes. Or at least, no one who’s read Watchman feels that way.

]]> By: Steven http://www.queerty.com/alan-moore-didnt-just-make-comics-an-art-form-he-made-them-gay-too-20090304/#comment-128765 Steven Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:15:50 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=42808#comment-128765 First, I am so excited for Watchmen! Second, I realize that they're comic book characters, but I'm happy that Hulkling and Wiccan are gay! I don't read Young Avengers and am not up to date on those characters. Third, keep stories like this coming! I love comic books, among other geeky subjects, and it makes me happy to read stuff like this on a gay website. First, I am so excited for Watchmen! Second, I realize that they’re comic book characters, but I’m happy that Hulkling and Wiccan are gay! I don’t read Young Avengers and am not up to date on those characters. Third, keep stories like this coming! I love comic books, among other geeky subjects, and it makes me happy to read stuff like this on a gay website.

]]> By: Dubwise http://www.queerty.com/alan-moore-didnt-just-make-comics-an-art-form-he-made-them-gay-too-20090304/#comment-128764 Dubwise Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:14:53 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=42808#comment-128764 looking forward to the movie. love this man's work. looking forward to the movie. love this man’s work.

]]> By: hardmannyc http://www.queerty.com/alan-moore-didnt-just-make-comics-an-art-form-he-made-them-gay-too-20090304/#comment-128754 hardmannyc Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:59:23 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=42808#comment-128754 Am I the only person who's already sick of this over-hyped movie? Am I the only person who’s already sick of this over-hyped movie?

]]> By: Sebbe http://www.queerty.com/alan-moore-didnt-just-make-comics-an-art-form-he-made-them-gay-too-20090304/#comment-128745 Sebbe Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:28:42 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=42808#comment-128745 re comic: Fairs Fair, I went first with that chubby last week. OMG I can't believe this was published at all. re comic: Fairs Fair, I went first with that chubby last week. OMG I can’t believe this was published at all.

]]> By: Sebbe http://www.queerty.com/alan-moore-didnt-just-make-comics-an-art-form-he-made-them-gay-too-20090304/#comment-128743 Sebbe Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:26:25 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=42808#comment-128743 "Thatcher's England" - gives me a shrill, glad I wasn't around yet. “Thatcher’s England” – gives me a shrill, glad I wasn’t around yet.

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