America’s Next Top Model contestant Nyle DiMarco made history as the first deaf contestant in the show’s 22 cycles, and now he’s made ANTM history again by coming out as sexually “fluid.”
ANTM fan Kike Garces Tweeted at DiMarco, 25, asking, “Nyle you have so much gays fans! Tell us, boys or girls?” to which he replied “fluid,” along with a link to an Everyday Feminism article entitled, “How Fluid Sexuality Fits into the LGBTQIA+ Spectrum.”
Aside from giving visibility to alternative sexualities (score!), here’s a photo-list of why the news makes us so, shall we say, excited:
Miguel Garcia
Lol AKA a big ole whore
Anthony Lower
This kid is possibly the nicest, kindest most sincere person to ever appear on a reality TV show.
Jim McHardy
Great looking guy with a great career ahead for him
Jorge Antonio Coronel
Just say gay!!!!
topshelf
Wow. Stunning man!
Hawg G Wilde
What the hell is this “fluid” mess? Where did it come from??
John Smith
I wouldn’t kick him out of bed for eating me. 😛
Lachlan Owens
Gideon Cohen
Albert Du Mousset
He is not even that handsome.
DarkZephyr
@Miguel Garcia: So you are a slut shamer, I take it?
Troy Andrew
Daniel
Greg Lin
I’d tap that!!
Desert Boy
Gorgeous! Look at his eyes! The key is under the front door mat.
WEBOne
Model for what, grocery bags??
Kangol
I knew it. Deaf and gorgeous and HOT!
tricky ricky
fluid my aunt fanny’s ass! that boy is as gay as the day is long. nothing but a little p.r. to given the homely ladies at home some hope.
tricky ricky
@Hawg G Wilde: I think from sucking it out of a hose.
Richard Holaday
Please, I called this from the first episode this season … this isn’t news ð???
Mauricio Colmenares
Damn
youarekiddingme
@Albert Du Mousset: “Not even that handsome”….I looked at your facebook page…WOW! Have you looked in the mirror lately? Those who live in glass houses…
Avery Alvarez
Gorgeous!
Billy Budd
Very hot and gorgeous guy. I love hairy legs. He is such a stud.
Bisexual-Transwoman
Why doesn’t he just say he’s bisexual? Is he that closeted and does he have that much internalized biphobia? ‘Fluid’=bisexual, but people who are not bisexual do not care or really know what the term ‘fluid’ means, and heterosexual people think it means having unprotected sex.
BECQueerty
Nyle, you are so beautiful.
Blackceo
Please sir. May I have some more? He’s beautiful. Dark hair? Check. Dark eyes? Check? At least olive skin? Check Thats what Im talking about.
Billy Budd
He is certainly GAY. Only men can truly appreciate the beauty of another man. Women only care about commitment and security (money).
Leonard Woodrow
A vibrant hunk with eyes to die for! All good luck to him!
darylsmith
@Albert Du Mousset:
Neither are you.
enlightenone
Deaf and dumb! Semen is “fluid.” He’s gay. Own it, then, perhaps he will be attractive. Otherwise, stay in the “closet!”
David Stoney
darkanser
@Albert Du Mousset: Really??? To each his own flavor. I find him quite handsome!!!
Andrew Button
Why not let him define himself plus it doesn’t make him a whore
inbama
If it catches on, I guess we’ll be adding an “F” to the Alphabet Soup Movement.
Will Tom Hanse
“Sexual fluid”? Ok! He likes cocks. I get it.
Sluggo2007
Fluid, my ass. I’ll bet he binge watches The Real Housewives of Wherever.
Brian
I’m so glad that Nyle wasn’t bullied into declaring “I’m gay” by the rabid enforcers in the gay media and gay community in general. According to the gay enforcers, any man who shows any interest in a man – even if that interest is a small fraction of his overall sexuality – must declare himself gay. He must do it or he will incur the wrath of the gay enforcers.
Here’s a message for the gay enforcers: you are intolerant. You are also no better than the Far Right when it comes to your lack of understanding of male homosexuality. You and the Far Right deserve each other.
Jack Walter
He better be careful with those fluids!
Cam
@Brian:
I always love it when people who have other posts where they side with the right wing try to pretend they don’t like the right wing.
As for the term “fluid”, sounds like magazine writers figured out that nobody was buying the previous B.S. term “pansexual” so now they get to write the exact same articles, only just changing that word to fluid.
animaux
@Brian: What’s wrong with bisexuality? Are you one of those stupid queer theorists who want to make all straight people gay and all gay people straight?
DannX68
I like deaf guys <3
DannX68
@youarekiddingme: Really nothing worse than people going to other people’s profiles to find something to bash them with.
Tobi
LGBTQIAF+ only 18 characters to go. *sigh*
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
He’ll come out as gay within 5-10 years.
Sexually fluid? Good lord. Just so insulting. Gay and bisexual people need to get some courage and be proud of who they are and not run from labels.
Glücklich
@Sluggo2007:
Hey if that makes me fluid grab a mop! Sometimes a little junk food’s OK as background noise. Better’n CSPAN.
Robbie Martinez
Sounds gross can’t he just say he like both??
youarekiddingme
@DannX68:
Lets see TROLL…The idiot made a comment about someone else’s looks…He is on a PUBLIC FORUM with a PUBLIC PROFILE–so yea, I wanted to see what this “beauty queen” looked like!
He your friend? Sorry. Truth hurts…Don’t talk about others looks unless you are willing to take criticism on your own (especially when they’re available for public viewing)!
Bisexual-Transwoman
@Billy Budd: LMAO misogynistic much?
CarlIsle
@Hawg G Wilde: Watersports?
jayj150
Another bisexual man afraid of the word bisexual. It’s always this ‘sexually fluid’, ‘just sexual’, ‘open minded’, ‘heteroflexible’ BS. I wish they just bravely owned to their sexuality without having to use these silly labels. The worst part is then they go ahead and blame gay people for “bisexual erasure”. If more bi people had the balls to identify as bisexual, they wound’t have that problem.
john.k
cis-gender, non-binary, non-gender-conforming, sexually fluid – I’m learning a whole new language! And people who want to be called Mx instead of Mr, Mrs, Miss or Ms and v instead of he or she. Could all this be self-absorbed, self-indulgent and narcissistic?
mmichael_24
If he wants to identify his sexuality as fluid it’s no one’s business to question him. It’s disgusting all of you queens that are saying that he is gay or bisexual. Don’t we already get enough hate from homphobes whats the need for us to do it to each other.
So can you all just let him live and stop fucking judging
paul dorian lord fredine
oh, no. a male model might enjoy sleeping with men????? what next? the sun comes up in the morning?
paul dorian lord fredine
@Albert Du Mousset: jealous much?
russellhm
This lad is one beautiful man! Exotic, a modern-day Valentine, seductive without even trying. Fluid? Oh, I’m sure. . .
Cam
@mmichael_24: said….
“If he wants to identify his sexuality as fluid it’s no one’s business to question him. It’s disgusting all of you queens that are saying that he is gay or bisexual. Don’t we already get enough hate from homphobes whats the need for us to do it to each other.
So can you all just let him live and stop fucking judging”
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I always love it when self Righteous twats attack others for “Judging” and then launch right into using homophobic and fem-phobic attacks.
Really? So nobody should label anybody? And everybody are all “Queens” for doing that?
You do realize that you couldn’t even stop judging and labeling, while you were POSTING A RANT AGAINST JUDGING AND LABELING!!!
Now please go to your room and think about what you just did.
andreleneal
Fluid sexuality recognizes that the person acknowledges more than two genders at play in real lives. Bisexual people presume that the only options for attraction are male and female. Fluid includes both of those, plus the space between and beyond.
Cam
@andreleneal:
And yet you can’t provide specifics, how typical.
Bisexual-Transwoman
@mmichael_24: Sexuality is Fluid=another term for bisexual.
@andreleneal: wrong. People who are bisexual are attracted to all genders and realize that there are multiple genders. Only idiots think that bi=two or think that bisexual people are only sexually attracted to women and men, when a lot of bisexuals are attracted to trans and intersex people as well.
jayj150
@andreleneal: That’s ridiculous. He didn’t say anything about being attracted to a ‘third gender’. And he didn’t talk about sexual identity, but sexual orientation, so I don’t know where you’re getting that.
And @mmichael_24 ,fine, he can identify with whatever made up label he pleases, but then could he and his fellow bisexual cowards stop blaming gay men for “bisexual erasure”. If bi people don’t have the balls to use the word ‘bisexual’, then they shouldn’t complain about being ‘erased’ from LGB and mainstream culture. If most people(both straight and gay) don’t take bisexual identity seriously, it’s because more often than not bi people don’t acknowledge their own bisexual identity, they’re always cowardly beating around the bush and hiding behind stupid labels: ‘heteroflexible’, ‘open minded’, ‘just sexual’, ‘DL’, all of which are subtly homophobic in nature.
mmichael_24
@jayj150: When did he ever ever blame gay men for “bisexual eraser”
mmichael_24
@mmichael_24: *”bisexual erasure”
jayj150
@Bisexual-Transwoman:
You said:
“People who are bisexual are attracted to all genders and realize that there are multiple genders.”. Not true. Most bisexual people(as most people both in and outside the LGB community) recognize two genders: male and female. That whole gender fluidity nonsense is part of trans activism discourse. And even though most so-called ‘t-chasers’ are obviously bisexual men in denial, most bisexual men(particularly those who happily embrace their bisexuality) are not necessarily interested in transexual people. You can’t logically conclude that because there are closeted bi men trying to rationalize their same-sex attraction by chasing transexuals, that all bi men are attracted to trans.
Then you said: “Only idiots think that bi=two”….Really?. Not much to add there, to be honest, but please, get a dictionary. And then:”.. or think that bisexual people are only sexually attracted to women and men, when a lot of bisexuals are attracted to trans and intersex people as well.”. I love that you finished your rant by unambiguously stating that transpeople are neither men, nor women. The irony there is priceless.
mmichael_24
@Cam: “Now please go to your room and think about what you just did.” Lmao it seems like you are trying to teach me a lesson on queerty of all places. Which is very humorous actually.
But I love the fact that you TRIED to call me out on judgeing and labeling by judging and labeling me.
That’s like calling a person out on using profanity by using profanity at them to get your point across. It doesn’t really do much.
Sebizzar
Sheesh, of course there will be so many jealous, judgmental, and closed minded comments. “Fluid” is part of the sexuality scale, just because you can’t grasp that doesn’t doesn’t mean he’s making it up. Don’t react the way homophobes do when you came out!
Nyle is one of the most handsome men to ever live, and yet he still doesn’t let that change his humble and friendly personality, that makes him the total package! AND just because he’s deaf, that doesn’t stop him from continuing to live out his dreams. In fact it only further makes him admirable and attractive. Yeah, I haven’t crushed on a guy like this in years lol. Really hope he wins ANTM!
mattridermd
Two comments: 1) Anyone who actually knows Nyle personally know him to be a very kind and compassionate guy. He’s not any of the nasty things some folks here have Accused him of being. 2) Sexuality is increasingly being recognized, especially among today’s young people as “fluid.” People are moving away from the dualistic either this/or that approach to sexuality. This frees them up to experience desire and love however it comes to them. Does it fit everyone? No. Does it need to? No. This should be celebrated instead of bashed. Straight homophobes have bashed gay and lesbian sexuality for decades because they didn’t understand it. They couldn’t picture themselves that way and so they feared and hate it. You don’t need to see yourself doing it in order to respect that it exists and meets the needs of the people who claim it as an identity. It’s called respect and it’s what we all want. I think it took Nyle tremendous courage to say what he did, especially this early in his career. Thumbs up, Nyle!
enlightenone
@mattridermd: Who said YOUR friend wasn’t “[personally know him to be a] very kind and compassionate guy.” No one is questioning his personality or character, but rather his LABEL for his bisexual orientation! Just as folks would challenge me if I, as a Black-American, said I was race-fluid. Get it?
jayj150
@enlightenone: Amen!!!
enlightenone
@jayj150: Thanks! I just hope my comment will be the jinger will educate the “young people” of today who don’t know our history and the politics of sexualtiy because they matter significantly. It’s our job, as self-actualized GAY MEN, to guide gay youth!
enlightenone
@enlightenone: That’s “zinger that…”
Terry Lawson
Who fucking cares?
DuMaurier
@enlightenone: First, I doubt every gay person sees his sexuality in terms of “history and politics” (I certainly don’t) Second, “fluid” IS a label–it’s a descriptive word, isn’t it? But aside from the somewhat offensive presumption in telling someone else what he IS, it may–may–be that some people choose not to self-identify as bisexual because the term is often (mis)understood to mean that someone’s sexual/romantic identity is split exactly down the middle: one half for men, the other (exactly the same) side for women.
I identify as gay, yet I am sometimes attracted to (certain) women (in certain circumstances), and I’ve thoroughly enjoyed having sex with them, more so than I’ve enjoyed sex with men, in many cases. But I know–within myself–that I am gay, not bisexual (albeit probably placed somewhere on the Kinsey Scale other than a guy who is repulsed to the nth at the very thought of a woman’s naked body)–and something tells me you wouldn’t have a problem with THAT self-identification.
mattridermd
@DuMaurier Thanks for the comments and clarification. You’re right. I identify as gay although I am not 100% gay. I have worked hard in my life, like so many others who claim a sexual identity (LGB) to get comfortable in my own skin to “own” that label. I’m comfortable with it. I’m not espousing the notion that no one should own a label. To paraphrase Miss Whoopie: It’s like a tampon, if it fits, wear it. But the need to own an identity is shifting. Many young people today don’t want to own an identity that locks them into specific kinds of behavior, politics, or relationship. Many sexually fluid people would have been labeled as pansexual back in the day. They may find almost anyone to be a potential mate or sexual partner, or only a specific type of manor women, or primarily attracted to personality regardless of gender, or oriented to transgender individuals. Get where I’m going with this? It’s not about being afraid to say you’re gay, bi, or straight; it’s about those narrow categories don’t always fit for sexually fluid people.
Curtispsf
WTF is with you all? (Notice, I could say “Judgement Queens” but then I’d be accused of judging some of you). His sexual orientation is NOBODY’s business except the person he chooses to be intimate with. That’s it. Now shut the fuck up.
mattridermd
@enlightenone: he was called a “whore” in the first comment.
Danny
This is really not that complicated. Sexually fluid means that you are comfortable with being attracted to people in all their forms and don’t adhere to any gender normative standards. Have you ever fallen in love with someone you weren’t originally attracted to? Have you ever fallen in love with a women even though you consider yourself a gay man? Have you ever fallen with someone who is Trans, bi, pan, queer or any othe the other numerous descriptors? Really, it means you accept people as they come and you accept a connection where you find a connection. You’ll accept attraction where you find attraction without being limited. It doesn’t make him bi either. A lot of gay men for instance have slept with women but identify as gay. If he’s fluid it simply means he goes with the flow. I realize as a gay man I have in a way limited myself. I also realize I’ve developed feelings and attractions where I never would have guessed they could exist. Sometimes you go with the flow, but most of the time you’re looking for something particular. Many people aren’t sexually fluid because they identity as something limiting. Trust me even as s gay man you can fall in love with a women. You are human before you are any of those other things.
enlightenone
@Danny: Sexual orientations: homo/bi/hetero are not affecteed by “gender normative standards.” Now this is NOT “complicated!”
enlightenone
@mattridermd: When people STOP and get EDUCATED before posting comments that show they DON’T KNOW the difference between SEXUAL ORIENTATIONS and SOCIAL/CULTURE/POLITICAL identities, we can then have a KNOWLEDGEABLE discussion! Until then we will continue to get this “…I identify as gay although I am not 100% gay.”
You are bisexual oriented/and identify as GAY.
You are welcome!!!!
mattridermd
@enlightenone: I couldn’t tell if you were assuming I’m educated on this topic or not. For the record, I’m an advance PhD student whose research focuses exclusively on the LGBTQI community and gender politics. Doesn’t make an authority on the subject, but I have done extensive reading on the subject. You’re welcome.
enlightenone
@DuMaurier: “…I identify as gay, yet I am sometimes attracted to (certain) women (in certain circumstances), and I’ve thoroughly enjoyed having sex with them, more so than I’ve enjoyed sex with men, in many cases.”
Bisexual/GAY! You are welcome.
spiffy
I couldn’t care less about his sexual orientation. I do wonder why does he need to go onto a reality show like ANTM to try to establish himself as a model? It’s not like he’s short or unusual-looking to the point that he can’t get booked…
(At the same time, as good-looking as he is, there’s something very catalog-y about his looks. Nothing wrong with that, of course; but catalog models usually are not “top” models.)
And being gay or “fluid” doesn’t guarantee anything in the ANTM world anyway… This cycle there was a self-proclaimed openly gay guy that didn’t even make the final cut. Being deaf is a bigger story angle.
Moises Medina
Caliente!
James Naisse
i love him! gosh that body! his armpits turns me on i wanna lick em.
Bisexual-Transwoman
@jayj150: More biphobia from you. http://fliponymous.tumblr.com/post/111342472589/stufficantsaytomyfriends-i-get-so-sick-of-being I never said that trans people are not men or women since we are not but a lot of gay men such as yourself do not see us as either male or female or men or women, and did you not notice I mentioned intersex people who are both genders?
Bisexual-Transwoman
@DuMaurier: Based on what you said about yourself you’re not gay, you’re bisexual since you are sexually attracted to both women and men. My friends that are gay men have told me how they’ve never had any sexual attraction to any woman even the ones that have had sex with women said this about how sex with a woman just showed them that they’re simply not into women at all sexually.
paul107
Really, who cares? Sexually fluid? Do people just make these up as they go along? LGBTQIA….how many more letter are going to be added to this?
‘These people are either always attracted to more than one gender or feel that their attraction may shift depending on factors like time, intimacy with certain partners, changes in hormone levels, and so forth.’
Isn’t that someone who’s bi?
Daveliam
Reading the comments here makes me really disappointed in our community. Here we have one of the genuinely nicest reality show participants that I can remember. He’s kind, genuine, hasn’t caused any drama, and is supportive of his cast members. He comes out publicly but because he doesn’t use the label that people WANT him to use, people here attack him: “He’s not even that good looking!”. “His modeling is boring!”. “He’s biphobic!”. “He’s making up his label!”
Who cares how he labels himself? If we, as a community, spent less time criticizing each other about superficial points, maybe we’d see more progress. Instead, we get caught up on semantics and turn to petty, childish insults as a way to ‘communicate’. I personally don’t quite understand the difference between “bisexual”, “pansexual”, and “sexually fluid”, but it’s not my place to police how other people identify.
The bottom line is that this is a kind, respectful, handsome young man who publicly came out as part of our community. We should be celebrating this and supporting him. Not looking for any loose string in order to attack him.
Brian
@Daveliam: A lot of sexually fluid men do not consider themselves part of the GLBT community. I don’t blame them. Identifying as GLBT is ridiculous because it suggests you’re a combination of letters. It’s de-humanizing.
The sooner we get rid of GLBT, the better.
Sluggo2007
@Albert Du Mousset: Yeah, right Albert. You’re so much better looking.
Cam
@mmichael_24:
No sweetie, you don’t get to cut and paste my words and pretend you said them. You name called using homophobic terms, labeled and judged others all in a post attacking people for labeling and judging. Own what you did and grow from it.
Cam
@Daveliam:
Because, when they can’t even define the term outside the vague platitudes posted here it becomes just another form of LGBT erasure.
Who doesn’t like labels? Well closet cases for one.
Daveliam
@Brian: That’s interesting to know about guys who identify as “fluid”. I don’t think it applies to Nyle, though, given that he posted a link to article that specifically places his sexuality within the LGBT community. If I’m understanding the article correctly, the link provided was actually provided by Nyle directly in response to being questioned about his sexuality. So I DO think that he identifies himself as part of the community.
Daveliam
@Cam: While I agree that many closet cases will bend over backwards to try to find ways to erase their connection with our community, I don’t think that this is the case here. Nyle specifically identifies as part of the community. He just uses a different label than people want him to and he gets attacked for it. I don’t think it’s necessarily a form a LGBT erasure either. For many years, “gay” was the only term for all members of the community. Now people use other terms to self-identify and we’ve accepted those terms. While I might not understand the specifics of “sexually fluid”, I’m not willing to dismiss it outright as anything other than an accurate representation of how these people identify. Similarly, I would expect other people to not question how I identify (which is a moot point in this case since I’m gay and no one really questions that identification on these boards at least).
Perhaps there’s a larger issue around people who identify as sexually fluid and I’m not aware of it? I’ve only heard the term several times and I’ve never seen anyone use it who didn’t identify as a member of the LGBT community. And, in this particular case, I think that the criticism being lobbied at him might be premature given what we’ve seen so far. But maybe I’m missing a piece of the story that is leading people to think that he’s ‘self-hating’ or ‘biphobic’.
Cam
@Daveliam: said… “While I might not understand the specifics of “sexually fluid”, I’m not willing to dismiss it …….”
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But see, that’s the point everybody on here attacking anybody and defending the term hasn’t been able to give it any type of definition. Which then simply makes it seem like just another word for people who want to be vaguely in the closet.
Daveliam
@Cam: But they HAVE provided a definition. Apparently being sexually fluid is similar to pansexual. And both of the terms differ from bisexuality by acknowledging attraction to people who don’t conventionally fall within the ‘male/female’ (bi-) paradigm. To me, I don’t really think that bisexuality is fundamentally different than these two terms and I especially don’t see a difference between fluidity and pansexuality (if there even is one), but I don’t think it’s my place to critique others about how they identify. I find it distasteful that our community (one that has been systemically oppressed for hundreds of years because of our identities) should nitpick and criticize members of the community for not conforming to the labels deemed appropriate.
I genuinely don’t see how it relates to this story, though, since Nyle is hardly “vaguely in the closet”. I mean, HE was the one who made it public by responding. He openly says he is fluid and provided a link to an article explaining how fluidity fits within the LGBT community. I mean, I would be hard pressed at how he could possibly be LESS ‘in the closet’ about his sexuality at this point.
Cam
@Daveliam: said…”But they HAVE provided a definition. Apparently being sexually fluid is similar to pansexual. ”
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And there you have it, they were never able to define “Pansexual” either, what happened was they realized that people were laughing at that B.S. term, and so now they have changed it to “Fluid” and are recycling all of the same old articles about “Pansexuality” and just changing the word “Pansexual” to “Fluid”.
Bisexual-Transwoman
@Cam: “Pansexual” or the way most people use it, is just another term for being bisexual just like “sexually fluid” is. There are people who actually apparently are “pansexual” but they’re sexually into things that are illegal: Think animals and what Michael Jackson and Lou Pearlman are into.
dwes09
Intersexed people are not people of “both genders”. In very very rare instances they have functional genitals of both genders. overwhelmingly they are people with birth defects in which they have either ambiguous genitals which do not function fully, or primordial remnants of the genitals that either match the anatomical sex of their physical bodies or the opposite one. The intersex movement was started as adults began to communicate the pain and emotional issues resulting from the neonatal assignment of genders based on the whim of the physician attendant to their birth. The thrust of the movement is to allow those who have genital deformities to wait until they understand their own gender/sex before having of deciding not to have corrective surgery. Intersexed people are NOT an indication of a natural fluidity in either sexuality or gender identification. Nor do these people represent some other class of affectional/sexual preference. Like all other humans they are on the gay-bi-hetero-asexual spectrum in the same proportions as other humans. That means something!
It would be neat and convenient if the phenomenon of genital deformity fit into the political agenda of radical transsexuals. But in reality it does not. The ramifications of making male neonates into females and vice-versa is clear, and those who spoke out and sparked changes in how these birth defects were treated were very brave indeed. But they are not part of the LGBT spectrum unless they happen to be LGBT! I’m actually not entirely sure that Trans people are part of the same struggle unless they are LGB, given the very real and very understandable desire of many Trans people to “pass”. A desire none of us, even other transpeople, has any right to criticize.
mmichael_24
@Cam: Well for the record I didn’t copy and paste I typed it out.
And you say I was wrong for labeling and judging yet you turned around and did the same thing to me so what I said must of not been bad because you turned around and said the same thing to me.
So sweetie you need to just admit when you’re being hypocritical.