“Anti-Gay” Anglican Bishop A Gay?
 

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Another holy outing? American Dennis Wine alleges that he had a sexual relationship Anglican Bishop of Horsham Lindsay Urwin.

Lindsay was 37 or so at the time and a good looking man for his age (being 38 myself now that seems like a silly thing to say but it was how I saw things as a 23 year old back then).

We hooked up twice in Holy Week of 1993. I fell for him in one of those puppy dog crushes newly out gay men sometimes have.

My friend warned me that Lindsay had a reputation for “teahouses” (by which he meant frequenting public restrooms). His advice was “don’t fall for Lindsay. He wants to be a bishop”.

Wine explains that he would not usually out someone, but felt compelled to do so after hearing of Urwin’s anti-gay support. For example, Urwin joined his peers in celebrating America’s Dioscese of San Joaquin breaking off to join the anti-gay Province of the Southern Cone.

 
Comments (10)

No. 1 · ee.em.bee

Oh please let there be some conclusive evidence of this, or corroboration, or an undeniable birthmark on the padre’s penis, or something. I totally SO want this to be true!!

Posted: Jan 4, 2008 at 10:09 am
No. 2 · Puddy Katz

nice dress honey

Posted: Jan 4, 2008 at 11:24 am
No. 3 · Dennis

well, my last name isn’t wine. I spent years in the wine trade so that is where that comes from.

I saw the links coming from here and followed them. I am curious how you found my blog and the post on Lindsay.

I fear that I may have stirred up a hornets nest. I never had any intention of outing him until he started working hard to support the anti-gay bigots. The release of that letter by the bishops yesterday was the last straw.

Last night my partner and I were talking about this for a long time before I posted it. It took a long talk to decide to go public. I sat on this for years, why release it now and such. It is time for honesty, though.

It is a scary thing to throw ones name and history out into the public in this way. Thanks for the link.

Posted: Jan 4, 2008 at 11:55 am
No. 4 · ee.em.bee

Very brave, Dennis. But are there polaroids? (Not to question your honesty at all, but polaroids never hurt!) And PLEASE don’t suffer mixed feelings about outing the bastard: These pompous, loudly pious, irreligious hypocrites need to be shown to the world for what they are. Well done!

Posted: Jan 4, 2008 at 5:30 pm
No. 5 · Meeg

An during holy week no less!? tsk tsk tsk.

Posted: Jan 4, 2008 at 7:00 pm
No. 6 · Phoenix

Does anybody else think the Padre’s firm hands on those stick shifts are a bit suggestive? Dennis you need to give us details, lad.

Posted: Jan 4, 2008 at 8:13 pm
No. 7 · ProfessorVP

Hat’s not the only thing that’s hard, if you get my meaning.

Posted: Jan 5, 2008 at 3:49 am
No. 8 · MadPriest

I can vouch for the fact that Dennis is a good, honest, Christian man who worries about what he does and says far more than he should do for his own health. If he says something is true, it is true. I completely trust him.

I have known about this matter for some time, it is not something that Dennis decided to do after one too many glasses of red wine.

Also, and this is important, if those in my internet neighbourhood wanted to they could “out” hundreds of Anglican priests. We choose not to because it would be wrong. However, this bishop is a hypocrite, and he is not alone. Of course, we are all hypocrites but the hypocrisy of these self-denying, self-hating and misogynist Anglo-Catholic clergy hurts our Christian brothers and sisters (both gay and straight) throughout the world. The Christian Church is still a powerful voice and its institutionalised homophobia gives permission to evil people, wherever they live, to oppress, attack and even murder, gay people and their friends.

It is understandable that many, if not most, secular gays, despise Christianity. But I would ask you to understand that gay Christians like Dennis are risking far more fighting the battle from inside the Church than you can possibly imagine. Those of us who take Christ’s message of love and inclusiveness seriously may be few in number and have a lot less power and influence than those who oppose us - but we are there and we are fighting and we could do with all the support the enlightened secular world can give us.

Rev. Jonathan Hagger
Newcastle Upon Tyne
England

Posted: Jan 5, 2008 at 6:29 am
No. 9 · Raphael

Mother Mary
That queen has had more trade at Walsigham than the local TESCO.
Chicken has been on that lunch for many a year.
As I say if they shout get them out.

Posted: Jan 5, 2008 at 5:05 pm
No. 10 · John Tee

I find it unbelievable that any one could possibly deny that the Rt Revd Lindsay Urwin was gay. I was a curate with him when he was at St Peter’s Walworth and can vouch for it. Although I am not gay I take great pleasure in exposing this hyppcrite.

He made my life and the life of our rector, now sadly deceased, a nightmare. He was a hugely active gay priest until he got a whiff of a ‘bishop’s hat where he took his bogus vow of celibacy fearing that his disgusting past would catch up with him.

He is one of the most obnoxious and ambitious individuals I have ever had the misforturn to have to deal with.

I did of course put all this on his Wikepedia entry but it was edited out by them and I have now been banned from editing back in.

He came to the parish then in Bishop Mervyn Stockward’s time (Merve the Perve) and was more than friends with the suffragan bishop of Woolwich another notorious batchelor who was going out with a teacher from Westminster School a the time. Woolich patronised a huge number of the homosexual clergy in Southwar in those days. In fact Canon Paul Jobson often joked with me that I was the only straight clergyman this side of the Thames!

I am a Buddhist now and so I dont really get involved in t his debate but I thought that people should know exactly what sort of a creature this Urwin is.

Posted: Jun 16, 2008 at 4:32 am
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