Comments on: Arnold Schwarzenegger Says ‘Yes’ to Harvey Milk Day. And Gay Married Couples? http://www.queerty.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-says-yes-to-harvey-milk-day-and-gay-married-couples-20091012/ Free of an agenda. Except that gay one. Wed, 15 Feb 2012 08:10:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Fitz http://www.queerty.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-says-yes-to-harvey-milk-day-and-gay-married-couples-20091012/#comment-224726 Fitz Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:36:23 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70688#comment-224726 I don't think Arnold cares the he is on the way out-- he has done what he wants to do always. Good bad, and ugly. For people who don't live in CA-- I really can't overstate how serious the financial issue is here. I don’t think Arnold cares the he is on the way out– he has done what he wants to do always. Good bad, and ugly.
For people who don’t live in CA– I really can’t overstate how serious the financial issue is here.

]]> By: B http://www.queerty.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-says-yes-to-harvey-milk-day-and-gay-married-couples-20091012/#comment-224678 B Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:54:20 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70688#comment-224678 Charles wrote, "I do think it's great that Arnold signed the bills, but let's not kid ourselves. The only reason he did so was because he's on his way out, so he has nothing to lose." In the case of the bill for Harvey Milk, don't forget that Milk was recently posthumously awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom. It would be kind of awkward for Arnold to say that Milk did not deserve state-wide recognition when he received the country's "highest civilian honor" (to quote the phrase on the White House web site). Charles wrote, “I do think it’s great that Arnold signed the bills, but let’s not kid ourselves. The only reason he did so was because he’s on his way out, so he has nothing to lose.” In the case of the bill for Harvey Milk, don’t forget that Milk was recently posthumously awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom. It would be kind of awkward for Arnold to say that Milk did not deserve state-wide recognition when he received the country’s “highest civilian honor” (to quote the phrase on the White House web site).

]]> By: Charles http://www.queerty.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-says-yes-to-harvey-milk-day-and-gay-married-couples-20091012/#comment-224663 Charles Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:03:57 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70688#comment-224663 I do think it's great that Arnold signed the bills, but let's not kid ourselves. The only reason he did so was because he's on his way out, so he has nothing to lose. I do think it’s great that Arnold signed the bills, but let’s not kid ourselves. The only reason he did so was because he’s on his way out, so he has nothing to lose.

]]> By: Fitz http://www.queerty.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-says-yes-to-harvey-milk-day-and-gay-married-couples-20091012/#comment-224586 Fitz Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:29:24 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70688#comment-224586 Milk was also instrumental it helping organize a community-watch type of thing in the Castro, when the cops wouldn't do crap about the bashings. Milk was also instrumental it helping organize a community-watch type of thing in the Castro, when the cops wouldn’t do crap about the bashings.

]]> By: B http://www.queerty.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-says-yes-to-harvey-milk-day-and-gay-married-couples-20091012/#comment-224566 B Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:49:58 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70688#comment-224566 BobP wrote, "Steampunk…yes, you really do need to educate yourself about Harvey Milk. One of the things he did was to give his life by being an out gay man." Dan White assassinated both Harvey Milk, who was gay, and George Moscone, who was straight. White apparently felt betrayed after White resigned for financial reasons and Moscone would not reinstate White to the board of supervisors. For some reason, White blamed Milk as well, and killed them both in a mindless act of revenge. Whether Milk's sexual orientation had anything to do with it is not clear - it is hard to say what was going through Dan White's mentally disturbed head - but the fact that he killed a straight guy as well would suggest that homophobia was not the main motive. Aside from being the first gay supervisor in San Francisco (at least, the first openly gay one), Milk was instrumental in stopping the Briggs Initiative, which would have banned gays and lesbians from working in public schools. The defeat of this initiative ended a national trend. BobP wrote, “Steampunk…yes, you really do need to educate yourself about Harvey Milk. One of the things he did was to give his life by being an out gay man.”

Dan White assassinated both Harvey Milk, who was gay, and George Moscone, who was straight. White apparently felt betrayed after White resigned for financial reasons and Moscone would not reinstate White to the board of supervisors. For some reason,
White blamed Milk as well, and killed them both in a mindless act of revenge. Whether Milk’s sexual orientation had anything to do with it is not clear – it is hard to say what was going through Dan White’s mentally disturbed head – but the fact that he killed a straight guy as well would suggest that homophobia was not the main motive.

Aside from being the first gay supervisor in San Francisco (at least, the first openly gay one), Milk was instrumental in stopping the Briggs Initiative, which would have banned gays and lesbians from working in public schools. The defeat of this initiative ended a national trend.

]]> By: B http://www.queerty.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-says-yes-to-harvey-milk-day-and-gay-married-couples-20091012/#comment-224550 B Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:26:41 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70688#comment-224550 AlanInUtah wrote, "Now that he has signed to allow the marriages performed before the PropH8 passed, this should open up a new argument for discrimination." Not true technically - the California Supreme Court had already ruled that those marriages were valid and still upheld Proposition Eight, which does not mean that a majority of the justices liked that proposition. Signing the bill (and the legislature passing it) are nice gestures, but have no impact beyond a show of support. AlanInUtah wrote, “Now that he has signed to allow the marriages performed before the PropH8 passed, this should open up a new argument for discrimination.” Not true technically – the California Supreme Court had already ruled that those marriages were valid and still upheld Proposition Eight, which does not mean that a majority of the justices liked that proposition. Signing the bill (and the legislature passing it) are nice gestures, but have no impact beyond a show of support.

]]> By: Brian http://www.queerty.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-says-yes-to-harvey-milk-day-and-gay-married-couples-20091012/#comment-224545 Brian Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:20:52 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70688#comment-224545 A USPS commemorative stamp would be a good next step in honoring Harvey Milk. California has finally done it on a state level. A postage stamp would make for tangible national recognition. A USPS commemorative stamp would be a good next step in honoring Harvey Milk. California has finally done it on a state level. A postage stamp would make for tangible national recognition.

]]> By: Jack http://www.queerty.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-says-yes-to-harvey-milk-day-and-gay-married-couples-20091012/#comment-224494 Jack Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:57:35 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70688#comment-224494 Wow, wonders never cease. Wow, wonders never cease.

]]> By: BobP http://www.queerty.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-says-yes-to-harvey-milk-day-and-gay-married-couples-20091012/#comment-224493 BobP Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:56:57 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70688#comment-224493 Steampunk...yes, you really do need to educate yourself about Harvey Milk. One of the things he did was to give his life by being an out gay man. "Now that you live in California" (I can't really see how that matters, unless you've just come from Mars), you should find out what happened in SF the night of the assasinations. It's a very important page in Gay history in the US. Steampunk…yes, you really do need to educate yourself about Harvey Milk. One of the things he did was to give his life by being an out gay man. “Now that you live in California” (I can’t really see how that matters, unless you’ve just come from Mars),
you should find out what happened in SF the night of the assasinations. It’s a very important page in Gay history in the US.

]]> By: SteamPunk http://www.queerty.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-says-yes-to-harvey-milk-day-and-gay-married-couples-20091012/#comment-224417 SteamPunk Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:19:51 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70688#comment-224417 Now that I live in California, I suppose I need to hunker down and finally watch the movie "Milk" or that documentary about him I saw on Hulu, because sadly I have no idea *what Harvey Milk did to be awarded a state holiday :-( *Other than be the first openly-gay public leader, of course. But I still think I'm over-looking some major accomplishment. That's not meant to take anything away from his legacy; just my lack of knowledge. Now that I live in California, I suppose I need to hunker down and finally watch the movie “Milk” or that documentary about him I saw on Hulu, because sadly I have no idea *what Harvey Milk did to be awarded a state holiday :-(

*Other than be the first openly-gay public leader, of course. But I still think I’m over-looking some major accomplishment. That’s not meant to take anything away from his legacy; just my lack of knowledge.

]]> By: ksu499 http://www.queerty.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-says-yes-to-harvey-milk-day-and-gay-married-couples-20091012/#comment-224414 ksu499 Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:16:45 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70688#comment-224414 I like Arnold. I like Arnold.

]]> By: AlanInUtah http://www.queerty.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-says-yes-to-harvey-milk-day-and-gay-married-couples-20091012/#comment-224407 AlanInUtah Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:04:30 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=70688#comment-224407 Now that he has signed to allow the marriages performed before the PropH8 passed, this should open up a new argument for discrimination. Now that there are a select few gay couples who are allowed to have their marriages viewed as equal to heterosexual couples, does it not discriminate against those other gay couples who want to have that same right? Who knows, maybe this will be the start on the path towards fixing this crap? Now that he has signed to allow the marriages performed before the PropH8 passed, this should open up a new argument for discrimination.

Now that there are a select few gay couples who are allowed to have their marriages viewed as equal to heterosexual couples, does it not discriminate against those other gay couples who want to have that same right?

Who knows, maybe this will be the start on the path towards fixing this crap?

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