
We like freedom of speech. Hell, we've made a living on it, but some right-wingers are clearly abusing their American right when it comes to Barack Obama's short campaign break, which he's using to visit his ill grandmother:
Michael Savage, Rush Limbaugh, and Jerome Corsi suggested or asserted that the true purpose of Sen. Barack Obama's current trip to Hawaii is not to visit his ailing grandmother, as Obama claims, but rather to address rumors — widely debunked — that Obama has failed to produce a valid U.S. birth certificate. However, in addition to FactCheck.org and a Hawaiian Health Department official, even Corsi's employer, the right-wing website WorldNetDaily, has reportedly determined that the birth certificate provided by the Obama campaign is authentic.
We'd say this trio should be ashamed of themselves, but they clearly don't experience such an emotion.
So he's going to visit his "typical white" grandmother - I thought she had died when he threw her under the bus this summer. Apparently the poor bastard survived.
Frankly, who gives a fuck if this opportunistic bastard's grandmother dies - how many votes does he think that's worth?
paula
you are really sick. get some help!!!
I was about to say how sick it is that someone like Rush Limbaugh would say anything negative about someone visiting an ill relative. It says something about family values I guess. Imagine my surprise when I see that hate has found its way to this little queer site.
Paula, I hope all your relatives are safe and healthy. I hope you never have to rush home to someone's deathbed. I hope you never feel like Barack did when he was too late to visit his mother before she died.
What does this all say about him as a politician? Not much. It does say he loves his family and is a pretty decent person, though. More than I can say about Paula, Rush, or their ilk.
Idiots.
That includes Paula the Troll who is about as effective (+ relevant) as Joe The Plumber.
Obama didn't "throw his grandma under the bus" as his haters keep saying, either. He was being honest about how even decent people can have certain flaws, prejudices, etc. If you couldn't see that, you're a lost cause.
Where is Church-Lady? I thought for sure her and her beau Men-sur would be all over this?
"Widely debunked" huh? Wrong! That "Certificate of Live Birth" (COLB) on the internet is a fake, and not even legally a "Birth Certificate". Obama needs to show a vault copy of his BC.
Another issue is that he gave up US citizenship when he became an Indonesian citizen. Indonesia doesn't allow dual citizenship. At age 20, while back in the US, Obama traveled to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport.
Not only is he going to HI to 'address' his shady birth certificate but he's also going to garner some publicity and sympathy for his grandma's ailment. He's nothing but a hypocritical opportunist, otherwise why did he had to wait till yesterday to head to Hawaii to see her if she was so gravely ill? And go without his wife and his two kids.
Perhaps racist typical white grandma only can stand to see one black person at a time.
No matter what I'm doing, if my grandmother is dying I won't wait till I finish my work/ or I'm just one week away from the elections to go and see her. What a coincidence, isn't it?
He's a pure unadulterated liar and like Paula wrote and opportunist.
I don't really "see" Obama- rushing to his grandmother's side because she was at death's door. He announced he was going 4 days ago- danced on the Ellen show vis satellite, kept on camapaigning- and then left for Hawaii.
He is a user and a fraud.
"Where is Church-Lady"
Must be laundry day. One can only imagine the effort it must take…
"Where is Church-Lady"
Must be laundry day. One can only imagine the effort it must take…
Oh Church-lady! I knew you wouldn't disappoint! Thanks sweetie. Where is your man Men-sur? Off at work while you stay home?
kisses to you and yours!
Here is what we got from Obama: No health records,
no school records (except those on the internet showing he attended school in Indonesia as a Islamic
and Citizen of Indonesia) If you doubt that, contact Associated Press because their AP stamp is on the photo! No vaulted birth Certificate, and a whole list of Undesirables he has associated with!
Plus He is an admitted HARD drug user.
OK Liberals, follow your MORAL compass and watch this country turn to total crap.
Obama doesn't need to show you proof of anything, "RM".
Either vote for him or don't + stfu with these pie-in-the-sky rumors.
Wow, somebody opened the floodgates + let the delusional assholes pour out in droves.
Oh, that's rich. It was, after all, McCain who's eligibility to run for president was called into question early on, given that article II of the U.S. Constitution limits eligibility to "natural-born" citizens of the United States. McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone — under U.S. control, but not part of the "United States" — in 1936. In 1937, Congress passed law providing that children of U.S. parents born in the Canal Zone after 1904 were U.S. citizens, but it did not provide that they would be treated as "natural-born" citizens. Obama decided not to make an issue of this, and actually co-sponsored a bill (introduced by a Democrate, Claire McCaskill) to treat all such persons as "natural-born."
From the sound of things, it looks like Barack will be riding in a black helicopter to Hawaii…
Have you ever noticed how the "right" always throws out allegations that they themselves have committed or are worried about? Like bullies calling others fags because they are closeted or not comfortable with their manhood.
First, let me say that I wish only the best for Mrs. Dunham, and pray that she will be OK.
That said, as for Obama's trip — if she were so ill, why wait 4 days to see her? (A cynic might suggest that for reference one should google the term "johnny fairplay")
Regarding Obama's standing as a "natural born" citizen, inasmuch as the supposed "birth certificate" shown on Obama's website is a valid document, issued by the state of Hawaii, I have no quarrel. It would appear to be so.
Where I see that there is a problem with relying on this document is that is is simply a computer's laser-printed regurgitation of information that is supposedly in a State of Hawaii database. Something that is done hundreds of times a day by state government offices, one would suppose.
As of yet, there has been no proof that this database information is in fact accurate and based on a true, valid, authentic document created at the time of Obama's birth, and therein lies the heart of this matter. Until someone in a position of authority and unimpeachable integrity, (i.e. - perhaps a trio of Supreme Court Justices, not a website), can examine the original birth certificate, complete with details such as weight, length, doctor's or nurse's signature, hospital name, etc., and attest to its authenticity, I for one cannot be assured that Obama was, in fact, born on US soil.
"Have you ever noticed how the "right" always throws out allegations that they themselves have committed or are worried about? Like bullies calling others fags because they are closeted or not comfortable with their manhood."
Yes. And it ain't working no more. Michele Bachmann is proof of that. If McCain had anything tangible to offer the country, he wouldn't of had to pick Palin and desperately try to turn Ayers into an issue.
The GOP is spiraling out of control and after the bullsh*t of the last 8 years, it is delicious to watch.
I'm assuming Paula has the same morals as the idiot McCain supporter who just faked being beaten up by a black man…I also assume neither one of you believes in Karma; but it is real and it is a BITCH!! OBAMA will be our next President, so both of you losers should find a way to just deal with it.
Why would Obama create a fake birth certificate when he could just request one from the state of Hawaii? Even if his mother did give birth to Barack in Africa and did sneak her son into America and walk into a hospital and pretend he was born here, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN A SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER AND A BIRTH CERTIFICATE THEN! So he would have no need to forge a document that he can easily request a real copy of. Even if he wasn't born in the US, it is apparent that the man has a social security number. He has been employed and payed taxes for decades. Obviously he is in the state files as being Barack Obama born in Hawaii so… THERE WOULD BE NO NEED TO FAKE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
WAKE UP, "BO" went there to find what material he could that would finally prove he was not a Nat Born US Citizen.
Did he bring his family, wife and 2 besitiful daughters to see their great grand mom?
"BO" is a Commi, wanting to take our Bill of Rights away like the poster who suggested our right of free speech be removed in certain circumstances, WRONG.
CLUELESS!
""Why would Obama create a fake birth certificate when he could just request one from the state of Hawaii? Even if his mother did give birth to Barack in Africa and did sneak her son into America and walk into a hospital and pretend he was born here, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN A SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER AND A BIRTH CERTIFICATE THEN! So he would have no need to forge a document that he can easily request a real copy of. Even if he wasn't born in the US, it is apparent that the man has a social security number. He has been employed and payed taxes for decades. Obviously he is in the state files as being Barack Obama born in Hawaii so… THERE WOULD BE NO NEED TO FAKE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE.""
The post above is why our Republic is in serious trouble, really clueless, ignorant people with absolutely no knowledge our the system of Government that made our nation so very great!
If you were not born in the USA, you can not run for the presidency!
That is why "BO" went to Hawaii, why he has not submitted either his BC or college records.
WAKE THE HECK UP! OK?
""""""OBAMA will be our next President, so both of you losers should find a way to just deal with it.""""""
NEVER, he will not be my president, and I will never follow an anti-christ!
Wow. Some of you commenters are paranoid and delusional. Good luck with that.
All of you foaming-at-the-mouth Obama haters are just making yourselves look more and more foolish every day. I LOVE IT! No doubt that you would be falling all over yourselves accusing Obama of lacking "family values" if he continued to campaign while his grandmother is gravely ill. And Paula, for your especially vile and vicious comment - I hope the shock of an Obama win is such a strain on your heart that you stroke out and die. EVIL BITCH!!!
I never paid much attention to the allegations that Obama wasn't a US citizen because I assumed that if that were to be so, he would be removed from the election. I am sure that McCain's people have thoroughly looked into this, because it would be great for them. If they haven't found anything solid, there isn't anything to be found. They wouldn't sit back and let it go.
Fake birth certificate or not… why post such a document on their website yet leave the MULTIPLE lawsuits regarding this matter entirely unanswered? If you can prove it Obama, then PROVE it - in the courts where these charges have been filed instead of some irrelevant website.
Max, have you looked into the past of "BO"?
Obviously not.
Paranoid and knowledgeable are two very different things.
Do not get me wrong, I hate McCain, hated Bush, Clinton and daddy Bush, loved Reagan and am a Ron Paul supporter to the point of being heavily involved in his campaign.
That alone should tell even the most ignorant of you that I am the most well informed in this forum.
After-all, "BO" did campaign intensely for the Federal Reserve Bailout, as did every other Traitor to our Republic.
I however will vote McCain to keep “BO” and his movement out of my country, and if he wins, I will work the rest of my life to bring our nation back to it’s roots, and fight “BO” and his movement, whatever that takes.
schnickelfritz
McCain dosen't want to be prez anymore then you or I, he will not do anything to stand in the way of "BO" winning.
WAKE UP,
Only then when will this issue REALLY be "widely debunked."
Screwbini
I remember very clearly the 100's of people who used your exact words when I warned them about Bush!
Who laughs last, still dosen't get any reward, just the knowing of more Naive and Ignorant voters to come.
""""leon
Only then when will this issue REALLY be "widely debunked.""""""
I got my Birth Certificate in the town I was born in 57 years ago, got it on the same day, it looked identical to the original, and it cost me all of $25
I guess my question to all "BO" supporters is, why is "BO" utterly refusing to hand his over, along with his College records.
I'll tell you why!
He was born in Kenya, went to college on a Foreign Aid program, exactly as Mr. Berg suggested.
Otherwise, why would "BO" not want to clear this up ASAP, in order to get on to more important issues?
No. 26 · Screwbini
"… No doubt that you would be falling all over yourselves accusing Obama of lacking "family values" if he continued to campaign while his grandmother is gravely ill."
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Um… he DID continue to campaign while his grandmother is gravely ill. As far as "lacking family values," why did he not bring the rest of his family to see their gravely ill relative?
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No. 13 · fredo777
Obama doesn't need to show you proof of anything, "RM".
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Did you ever ask GW to show you proof of anything? Maybe WMDs or something?
"Tgvas", why don't you take a Xanax + shut the fuck up?
You're ridiculous.
As for those criticizing Obama for not "rushing" to his grandmother's side quickly enough for your liking, you don't know what he + she might have discussed via phone or all the inner-workings of their relationship. Get over yourselves.
Leon, I didn't ask Dubya for anything, other than to admit that he stole the election.
Still waiting on that, btw…
Fredo,
Did ACORN help him steal it?
Poor silly old Tgvas! Church-lady's father? You'll be okay sweetie.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp
http://www.politifact.com/trut.....e-part-ii/
leon
""""O M G""""
This reminds me of the interviews Howard Stern had done in Harlem, interviewed 100 people by saying, IE:, "How do you feel about Sarah Palin being the VP is Barrack wins" and these people's answered, Yeah, she's great!
"BO"'s grand mum has been gravely ill for months, "BO" did not go to visit her at all, campaigned instead, NOW THAT SHE IS out of the HOSPITAL, he is visiting her???????
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!
THIS IS exactly what is wrong, most "BO" supporters are 90% clueless, and spout off their rhetoric without knowing a darn thing!
In March 2008, the 85-year-old Dunham was quoted as saying, "I am not giving any interviews…I am in poor health"
She's been ailing since 2007, seriousily since June and no visits from darling "BO" until now!
No, Leon, your mother did.
James
Poor silly old Tgvas! Church-lady's father? You'll be okay sweetie.
MORE OBAMA PPR Propaganda!
That BS was proven to be a forgery!
POOR SILLY and Anti-American James.
Tgvas: Why do you think that McCain doesn't want the presidency? His choices have been awful, but he seems to want it too much to be rational.
Leon - give it up. Even if Obama had dropped everything and flown to Hawaii, the mouth-breathing, right-wing cretins would have found something to criticize. He consulted with his grandmother's doctor and apparenetly determined that he didn't need to drop everything immediately to rush to her side. What is important is that he's with her now. I know that those who are praying that Obama loses the election wish he would "suspend" his campaign altogether. But for the good of the country I'm glad that's not happening.
Btw, tgvas, Obama also visited Hawaii for a week in the summer of this year, you stupid dick.
fredo777
"Tgvas", why don't you take a Xanax + shut the fuck up?
My Audi has a Ron Paul tag on it, was kicked in to the tune of $3300 damage in NYC by three "BO" supporters back in July, who were arrested and remain in trial session.
They were peaceful, Anti-Gun, wanting change "BO" supporters.
I'm a Patriot, Gun Owner, Survivalist, Conservatve who will die before I let my guns and books go, yet I never hurt anyone or anything belonging to another.
And in every thread posting with "BO" supporters, we, my fellow Patriots always rouse such violent anger and attacks by "you" people.
Yeah, your movement will work, RIGHT!
fredo777
Btw, tgvas, Obama also visited Hawaii for a week in the summer of this year, you stupid dick.
Ah, his grand mom became seriousily ill two months ago!
I would have been there the next day given his money situation, HOW ABOUT YOU, or would that not fit into your "CHANGE" scenario?
He kicked her to the side this summer, and now needed to go to look into this BS thing.
Would not be fitting if she passed, (GOD rest her soul), and left a bunch of telling paperwork lying around.
"She's been ailing since 2007, seriousily since June and no visits from darling "BO" until now!"
Darling Tgvas: if you are going to play at least know the rules. Rule 1: learn a fact.
http://www.cbc.ca/world/usvote.....other.html
Now get back to bed and take a nap.
Kisses
fredo777
Leon, I didn't ask Dubya for anything, other than to admit that he stole the election.
Stole the election, NOW LOOK WHO's Paranoid!
WOW, looney Toones right her in the net!
"That BS was proven to be a forgery!"
Oh really? And who did that pumpkin? Isn't it time for your bed time baby. You really shouldn't be out so late.
hugs
Let me tell you what "debunked" means:
Leon: "Is your name 'TGVAS'?
TGVAS: "Yes."
Leon: "No, it's not. What is your name?"
TGVAS: "Er, it's TGVAS…"
Leon: "No it's not. I have debunked your name."
James
He did not visit her since August, but now that she is out of the Hospital, he's there!
Ah, maybe you have no calendar other then the Moscow Gazetter, but it's the last week in OCTOBER????????????????????????????????
Of course that's acceptable to "BO" supporters, it's part of that change thingi!
When both my grandmums passed, they were surrounded by all of our family members, children, sisters, brothers, grandchildren and a few friends.
Guess Micelle and kids have better things to do!!!!!!!!
Come on over to our another website, Frugal Squirrel, or, Tree of Liberty, or Timebomb, or AR15.com, or AK47.com, or any of the number of sites with real americans!
We welcome you with your twisted CHANGE!
It's times like these that I wish this site had more strict standards for whom they let post here.
Yawn.
Okay, Tgvas. This will be my last post to you. Why? Cause you be crazy. You say this:
"She's been ailing since 2007, seriousily since June and no visits from darling "BO" until now"
Then when you are reminded he, and the family, were in Hawaii in August you decide to throw out the Moscow Gazetter ( an excellent paper by the way).
When you calm down and want to talk let us know. But until then take your pills, listen to your therpaist, and remember Church-lady loves you.
kisses and hugs
The sick grandmother issue isn't really such a big deal. I, and many others, just find it strange that he feels so strongly about being with her now in the final days of his campaign because she is ill, yet he does not feel so strongly that his daughters should also be spending time with her just the same. That is exactly the reason for speculation about some other motive. Regardless,
As far as the "widely debunked" charges regarding his birth, "widely debunking" is not sufficient. These are REAL COURT CASES, not simply speculation by some irrelevant internet blogger. Posting an image on a website might be sufficient to shut up some lone internet blogger, but is absolutely not satisfactory for a court of law. These charges have been filed in a court of law in several states; they must be answered in the same arena. No exceptions.
Obama's half sister has a birth certificate like the one on Obama's 'smear' site, even though she was born in Indonesia, because these are filed by a parent after the event. What SHOULD be released is a full vault copy of birth filled by the hospital (usually the delivering doctor) at the date and place of birth to discern where Obama was actually born. Cost: $24.95, and the matter is closed. Instead thousands of dollars of donors money is being spent in litigation. It's obvious to anyone but an easily beguiled fool that something is amiss.
Something is amiss, for sure.
The common sense that God gave a billy goat among too many of Obama's detractors.
Fredo,
Your posts are devoid of facts and loaded with mouthy drivel and insults. Nice to meet you, ultra-tolerant, compassionate liberal.
All that is asked is that a man show, beyond reasonable doubt, that he can legal satisfy the requirements for the office to which he asks us to elect him. This is entirely reasonable and rational during a time of war. In fact, it should be considered a matter of national security. "Go take a xanax + stfu" is not an appropriate response to such an inquiry.
fredo777
It's times like these that I wish this site had more strict standards for whom they let post here.
YEAH, I understand that, typical "BO" supporter, wanting to stem the tide of free speech if that free speech goes any other way then their way.
I've used no profanity, no threats, no four letter words, just speaking my mind, and the minds of 1/2 of americans and perhaps more, and you want to limit who says what here, and in general everywhere.
If that is CHANGE, we don't need it or want it, you'll have to force it on us, and trust me, will never succeed!
Leon, I never claimed to be ultra-tolerant, compassionate, or ultra-liberal. Not that any of that is at all relevant.
Considering the nonsensical rants posted by your buddy tgvas, the suggestion of taking a Xanax + "s"'ing the "f" "u" was wholly appropriate.
Neither of your comments were rational, objective, or fair; they amount to a witch-hunt + an attempt to cast doubt on the "exotic" candidate, drawing attention to his "otherness", which is totally in line with a lot of the GOP's smear tactics of late. He is an eligible candidate + your incessant requests for more, more, + still more proof of his birth are pathetic, at best.
Is it true that the last picture taken of Obama and his grandmother together was about 40 years ago?
Tgvas, free speech is a fantastic thing, but any site worth its salt reserves the right to stem the tide of common net trolls.
Oops I was wrong. Looks like the most recent photo of Obama and his grandmother together is 25 years ago. Interesting.
Why don't we just wait and see what happens. It is an issue at this point and eventually the facts will come out. Either, in a strict legal sense he is a citizen or he isn't. Do you people think we should waiver the requirement because he is a popular figure. Would you want a President that was not a citizen?
^ Of course they do!
To James and anyone else referencing the websites of factcheck, snopes, politifact, etc. — please see post #18 — I believe the document to be presented as real and valid, but incomplete, and its data source unverified.
Unless you can point to a flaw in this logic, please refrain from any reference to those websites.
No, Fredo, they amount to upholding the constitution. What is pathetic is the refusal to legally validate his eligibility as a candidate.
Just answer one simple question for me. If the charges are indeed false and can be easily refuted in court, why allow the issue to develop further and potentially lose votes? Why not prove the charges false and make the accusers look foolish?
The accusers are going to look foolish, regardless.
What's the likelihood that during the process of vetting the candidates, they let this guy slide by without thorough background checking + making sure that he is, indeed, a valid citizen? It's absurd to think otherwise.
Answer one question for me, though. Have you done the same amount of fact-checking where Palin or McCain's background, citizenship, etc. are concerned?
Diogenes,
Are you freaking serious? Really? You just used the word logic in your rant. Okay baby here goes. The below link is to a loverly site called WorldNetDaily. They are no fans of Obama. They investigated the birth certificate matter and said this:
"A separate WND investigation into Obama's birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there."
Now if you want to question the logic of WorldNet, a site that makes its anti-Obama feelings clear, then go at it.
Sleep tight sweetie.
kisses
James
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/i.....geId=73214
James,
Not questioning WorldNet, or making any claims myself. Just pointing out that the presented document is simply a computer's laser-printed regurgitation of information that is supposedly in a State of Hawaii database. Whether that data is in fact corroborated by an original document produced by the hospital in Hawaii on his behalf, on the date of his birth, specifying other details such as hospital name, attending physician/nurse, length, weight, etc., and currently stored in Hawaii's document archives is yet to be proved. This is a simple statement of fact. Thus logic (yes, logic) dictates that if it is yet unproved, it may or may not be accurate. Until then…we just don't know.
If you or anyone else files a lawsuit making such claims then, as long as the lawsuit is still pending, I would give it due consideration.
I agree that it is absurd, but reality itself is sometimes absurd. Don't you find it absurd that the 2000 election could be "stolen"? Yet you still maintain that position.
Bottom line: the truth must be known without any doubt and the constitution must be upheld. I hope we can at least agree on that. I've no more time.
Diogenes,
"A separate WND investigation into Obama's birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic."
If this isn't enough, nothing is going to convince you. Keep talking that logic though!
peace
Barack Happenin' Obama was indeed born in the USA while John Judas McCain was born in Panama Canal which would make him technically Stateless (White passport hated more than Iranian). So, flipping the script, Church-whore-going-down-on-yo-mamas-titty-too-late-and-by-the-way-she-looked-like-Queen-Victoria-in-Margaret-Thatcher's-House-Dress may reveal that ONLY Senator Barack Obama is eligible to run for the United States Presidency!!
You read it hear first, folks.
Check with Cindy Adams, Matt Drudge, Perez Hilton or Michael Petrelis I don't care because it's THE TRUTH.
BTW - Perfect Stage-craft on the Loving Grandmother. I am hot at the thought of Barack doing chores for Tootie. To quote Rosie "Paint My House!"
James,
Perhaps I'm not able to make this clear enough for you to understand. I'll try again.
I believe the document that has been presented IS authentic. I have no issue with that.
What is in question, is whether such document, as a computer-generated summary of entries in the state's database, is in fact backed up by valid and verified ORIGINAL data (the vault, or original, birth certificate created at the hospital on the date of his birth.) This question has not yet been answered.
If it has, please enlighten us as to where we can find such verification,and we can all go home. If not, the question remains open.
Simple concept, one would think.
Ok for you podunk idiots who have never left your itty bitty insignificant little towns/states. I was born in NY City almost 40 years ago. The copy of the birth certificate I have now (acquired 15 years ago) looks absolutely nothing like the falling-apart, unreadable photostat (remember those?) copy my parents acquired sometime in the 70s. So I agree with you Diogenes. States with large populations don't provide the exact copy of the original certificate. They provide a form filled out with the original data and the state seal embossed on it.
Haters!
Yes, I do still hold that "absurd" view that the 2000 election was stolen, which it was.
As for the whole "lawsuit" thing, I've more important things to concern myself with than that distraction, really.
I just find it annoying how desperately the Obama-haters seem to try attacking him with any + every possible smear. It gets stale very quickly.
againstthemachine
Ok for you podunk idiots who have never left your itty bitty insignificant little towns/states. I was born in NY City almost 40 years ago. The copy of the birth certificate I have now (acquired 15 years ago) looks absolutely nothing like the falling-apart, unreadable photostat
LYING SACK OF SHIT!
Yeah, now I'm using profanity, you lying sack!
I was born 57 years ago, my birth certificate was a yellow 6 x 8 paper with black letters, seal stamped and was as clear as a bell, from NY State, and my dad's, 1927 from NYC was green, exactly like mine in clarity and thickness and stamped seal, and BTW, so was my grand-dads from NYC back in 1897.
I have all of them today, had to get a copy of Dad's which, BTW was identical, NO PHOTOSTAT, you lying sack of shit.
I HATE LIARS, and the "BO" campaign is full of you Coomunist Assholes who, I'll give you, are well organized and spread out to cover all the lies.
Here's some more info.
I attended private Schools in Greenwich, CT, went on to get my PHD in Business and was retired and comfortable by 49 years of age.
People like myself will never allow you Commi's to take our lives away, KNOW THAT WELL!
I have never threatened or attacked anyone in my life, but have been physically attacked by Crazed "BO" supporters who believe this TRASH COMMI is the messiah.
Everything you people stand for, is what I stand against, "TRY AND CHANGE ME"!
FRAUD! This entire election year has been disgraceful and embarrassing for America. The year of smear.
This entire election year is a setup, how else could we explain two such miseable candidates?
I will make nasty comments about this guy and his granny because I am scum of the Earth who kills US troops instead of admit error. I use my country and religion for political attacks. I am a Christian who does not follow Christ.
Wow, the commenters on this thread are really ignorant about U.S. citizenship.
For the record it doesn't matter where Obama was born because his mother is/was a U.S. citizen. If a person has ONE parent that is a U.S. citizen they are automatically given citizenship. If a person is born in the U.S. its territories or even on a military base or in a U.S. consulate overseas they are also granted automatic citizenship.
Obama doesn't need to go anywhere or even have a birth certificate. His mother was American therefore he is too.
Also, I'd like to note that during the 60's and 70's lots of women did not give birth in a hospital and refused to register the birth of a son in the U.S. Why? Because of the Viet Nam Police Action (remember it wasn't a war and the draft. If there son officially didn't exist on paper, he couldn't be drafted.
I'd like to add also that If a person is born in the U.S. its territories or even on a military base or in a U.S. consulate overseas they are also granted automatic citizenship no matter what there parents citizenship status is. And when a citizen turns age 18 they can apply to have their parents become citizens. Previously, automatic citizenship was conferred onto the parent as well but the laws have since been changed.
"their" duh.
Democrats, Vote November 4th!
Republicans, Vote November 5th
Phoenix,
BZZZZZT! Wrong answer, but thank you for playing.
The details are more complicated than that, and you need to go do some more homework. Come back when you've completed your assignment.
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Article. II. - The Executive Branch
Section 1 - The President
for you commis out there, this comes from the 2nd most important document in the UAS, THE CONSTITUTION, the most important being THE HOLY BIBLE.
typo, got a 3 and year old ready for bed, on top of me. USA
if "bo" is president, it will be the USSA,
Fuck there are some scummy people living comments on here.
yeah, truth sucks
If his grandmother was so sick, why'd he wait this long to go see her? It's my understanding that she broke her hip. Does anyone know for sure?
I think he bailed out for a few days because he thinks he's in the lead. He just wants to coast until the election.
TGVAS…I have to agree with you. You're the only one here who seems to have a clear grasp of what's going on in this country. AND IT AIN'T GOOD!!
Not sure if you're allowed to post a link here but I will anyway. The moderator can pull it if it's not okay.
http://wnd.com:80/index.php?fa.....geId=78309
Slight correction.
If BO is elected it will be the USKKA- just like Obama's mentor said.
Black Liberation Theology.
Google it. And be very afraid.
"If his grandmother was so sick, why'd he wait this long to go see her?"
How, exactly, is that any of your place to judge how quickly he should have gone to visit hisgrandmother?
Seriously. Comments like these disgust me. God forbid you ever end up in the public eye + don't do everything in a manner that pleases the peanut gallery. Get over yourself.
Hey Ms TGVAS and the KKKGay Brigade,
Boy don't your faggot ass have alot of hate for Obama. You go and research a bunch of internet BULLSHIT and choose to believe it…BRAVO
As an African American I have stood under a PREDOMINATELY WHITE GOV'T all my life. So queen you need to get over your hateful fears of an Obama administration.
And to say some of things that is being said about him and the relationship to his grandmother is utterly DIGUSTING! what about yours?
But just for the record hate him and us Blacks all you want. This will not be the USSA it will still be the USA.
And by the way PUNK MOTHERFUCKER YOU said: Everything you people stand for, is what I stand against, "TRY AND CHANGE ME"!"
I wouldn't want to change you. But I'd love to see how much MOUTH in person would you spew. Evil fucker you'd be SHUT DOWN in 60 seconds.
BTW,Have you checked in with your Mother yet. To see if she's been raped by a nasty black Man. Like that lying bitch said in Pittsburgh.
GET OVER IT AND OR MOVE AWAY!
CHANGE IS COMING YOU RACIST KKGAYS!
SUCK A RABID COCK AND DIE.
AND I CAN SAY THAT IN YOUR FACE!
who gives a fuck>
Lovely post, Mr C.
Just what we "clean" people would expect from dregs like you.
Thank you for living up to our expectations of a NOBAMA Presidency.
It will not happen.
Just a question- Why are you voting for this socialist and what has he accomplished?
And if you cite "change"- just shows you are clueless.
Waiting for YOUR answer- because you are SO eloquent- and I am SURE that BO would be proud of your answer.
Waiting
I'm curious to hear what you think makes McCain or Palin qualified to be potential presidents, particularly when Palin doesn't even seem to grasp what a veep does, exactly, + that McCain chose her.
Well if Grandma is in that bad of a state why does the whole family not go for what might be the last live visit… Seems that is what most of you would do if you had the $. I guess we gotta wait to have the kids see her laid out in a coffin rather than live and breathing still. Yea explain his way outta that one for him… That is what is sick about the whole thing. 4 days of planning and no family visit. Real crappy that its always all about him not really about his grandmother. Then it is racist to question any thing about his actions… Well he is not black nor white but both. He only pushes black for his own gains and agenda - a chess play to further his goals. It is just as racist to deny he is also white.
Don't believe everything you hear.
Believe only half of what you read.
Question everything you see.
I want BO to lose on his merit or lack of rather than this lil blurb about a visit to Granny and a BC. This is a non issue as the last time he visited her for a couple hours outta sevral day stay on the island…
Look deeper, think straighter and open your eyes. The real issues on taxes, broken agreements, out right lies. I have lived in Chicago all my life. I know a lot more of what is not said than the BS that has no relevance. Funneling or raising money for Rezko, Funnye, Acorn, Blackwell, Pfleger, Wright, Meeks, Khalidi, Odinga just for starters.
I will not go into the contributions given to him from all the failed financial institutions and other questionable sources. The Chicago Machine has found a way to buy and cheat to get one of their own from Crook County in the White House. Just watch the appointments and job handouts that Chicago politics are famous for on the Hill.
Enough said could go all night listing here if I had to. Don't take my word for it, research the truth for yourself. McCain is not much better of a choice, however he still is a better choice even with his closet full of skeletons.
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