And, if you call Mr. McClintock an idiot, that doesn't make him an idiot. It's the stupid things that come out of his mouth that make him an idiot.

And just because you have the title "Senator" doesn't mean you are a good one.

BTW – anyone heard of "cruelty to animals" laws? They don't apply to farm animals which is why Prop 2 is on the ballot. I personally disagree with eating animals, and understand others disagree with me. What can't be disagreed on is animals are thinking beings and can feel pain. If we must raise them for food, can we do so in a humane way?

Calling this schmuck a human doesn't make him one. He's no friend, so he must be a pig.

Super logic, so I guess McClintock belongs in a pen. BTW, nice name, sounds like he combined to obscene words, then added the "Mc" to make it sound good. Seems like an apt description.

Good lord who elected this piece of work? Sounds kinda negative and mean to me. I mean, does he actually like anything, or is everything sucky and icky in the evil mortal world of judgment he lives in?

The question this November goes beyond Prop 8: Its supporters have revealed themselves. Are these the kind of people who should be calling the shots in our society?

Um, No On 8, and No on This Guy too.

On a more positive note, towleroad.com has coverage of the Ron Burkle Beverly Hills fundraiser where among others David Hyde Pearce contributed $50K. He also has the link where any US National can go to donate to "No on 8". Its this one right here:

https://secure.ga4.org/01/equalityforall?source=towle

Calling a bigot a public servant doesn't make him one either….!

So, if I ordered Chicken Wings, they would be Gays trying to get Married? according to GOPlogic?

He is correct on both counts no matter what some cum-guzzling leftists on this forum have to say.

It's always so painful when bozos try to sound intelligent. The failed attempt to appear like they are able to think is embarrassing for everyone: evidence that humankind has degenerated with time.
The selective principle here must be the ability to make wind.

Tom McClintock is not just a State Senator. He is CURRENTLY RUNNING for a seat in the US House of Representatives (California’s 4th District) and it is a tightly contested race with the Democrat opponent whose name is (and I’m not making this up) Charlie Brown.

Please feel free to go to Charlie Brown’s campaign website and donate so this moronic homophobe won’t get elected (aka rewarded) for his bigotry.

http://www.charliebrownforcongress.org/

P.S. Ron, in case you didn’t notice this “forum” (that your right-wing ass has stumbled onto) is queer. So calling us cum-guzzling leftists is kind of redundant you FUCKING IDIOT.

"cum-guzzling leftists"

Leave the last word out, I fully embrace the other two. Ron hun, there's nothing sweeter! you don't know what you're missing!!

As for the un-American turd that is Senator McClintock, it seems he's quite preoccupied with animals(dogs, farm animals) perhaps he'll have a change of heart about small enclosures for inferior creatures once he sees how many of them come and help him with a resounding Yes to Prop 8 even though they'll be voting for the Messiah and not for McCain.

You're absolutely right, Ron. THIS is a marriage:

http://www.queerty.com/ex-gay-.....-20081021/

Fondly,
Cum-guzzling Leftist

"Calling this schmuck a human doesn't make him one. He's no friend, so he must be a pig."

Don't degrade pigs like that.

Knock him unconscious, toss him into a sty filled with hungry pigs, let him learn the difference between friend and food as he awakens to his agony and grisly demise.

Bless his heart. He thinks that calling a heterosexual partnership a marriage makes it one. If that's the case, my father and mother loved marriage since she had 4 and possibly 5 husbands (I wasn't sure about one of them), and he had three wives.

I do have to agree with him about farm animals. They are food. I guess growing up on a farm helped me keep Disney cartoons and movies in perspective. Contrary to what some claim, they don't think thoughts like we do, but they do feel pain. That's why when I was growing up, we slaughtered our food as fast as possible to minimise their pain. We didn't play with them and start eating them while they were still alive the way most predators will. I did enjoy fried chicken, grass-fed steak, and homemade sausage and chops. If our ancestors hadn't taken up eating and hunting meat, we would have remained apes since large brains require a great deal of protein to develop.

Makes me sad because I think of California as being one of the few places in the states where people are not backward and crazy.

Rob Moore – I grew up on a farm too. Animals are not just "meat machines." I never said they think thought like we do nor have I confused 'food animals' with Disney cartoons. But a sheep can recognize over 100 human faces. A chicken has a tiny brain, but still they have a complex social order – which is where the term "pecking order" comes from. There is plenty of information out there on the intelligence of animals if you care to find out. As to the lots of protein for brain development – that sounds a lot like the "I need meat for strength argument." You need more protein for strength than an elephant or rhinocerous? They only eat plants. But go ahead and cite your source to back up your comment.

And while I'm glad you didn't "play" with animals or slaughtered them quickly to minimize their pain, the fact is the vast majority of food animals are not raised that way – they are raised in hideous factory farms. Most pig farms cage the animals several cages high – the fumes are so bad the human workers have to wear gas masks. 6 or 8 chickens are in a cage the size of a folded newspaper. This is very very CRUEL.