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		<title>By: Laurence Bernstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurence Bernstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only a couple of months ago, in January, the gay world was trumpeting the recession proof nature of the pink dollar. Surveys were purported to show that gays and lesbians were somehow less likely to cut back spending. The reason given, naturally, had something to do with &quot;disposable&quot; income, kids, whatever.

Of course this was nonsense, as is being seen around the country. Along the same vain as the &quot;disposable&quot; income myth, it seems that gays and lesbians would be more likely candidates for the layoff line because, in the eyes of many employers, they don&#039;t have kids and therefore will be impacted less harshly by a time-out in the unemployment cue.

Bars will be badly affected very shortly. History has shown that, when faced with serious financial retrenchment, people will eliminate major expenses and up-grade low end indulgences (such as meals out and bar visits) until the impact of the financial strain hits. Then they will cut back entirely. In other words, as soon as the severance check runs out, revelers will go to the bars one night less a week for a few weeks (assuming an average of 3 times per week, this would mean a fairly rapid 30% decrease in the bar business), and gradually cut back more and more until a night out at a bar is a once weekly treat. Or they will buy increasingly fewer drinks. Either way, the prospects for the gay bar business in the next six months or so are pretty grim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only a couple of months ago, in January, the gay world was trumpeting the recession proof nature of the pink dollar. Surveys were purported to show that gays and lesbians were somehow less likely to cut back spending. The reason given, naturally, had something to do with &#8220;disposable&#8221; income, kids, whatever.</p>
<p>Of course this was nonsense, as is being seen around the country. Along the same vain as the &#8220;disposable&#8221; income myth, it seems that gays and lesbians would be more likely candidates for the layoff line because, in the eyes of many employers, they don&#8217;t have kids and therefore will be impacted less harshly by a time-out in the unemployment cue.</p>
<p>Bars will be badly affected very shortly. History has shown that, when faced with serious financial retrenchment, people will eliminate major expenses and up-grade low end indulgences (such as meals out and bar visits) until the impact of the financial strain hits. Then they will cut back entirely. In other words, as soon as the severance check runs out, revelers will go to the bars one night less a week for a few weeks (assuming an average of 3 times per week, this would mean a fairly rapid 30% decrease in the bar business), and gradually cut back more and more until a night out at a bar is a once weekly treat. Or they will buy increasingly fewer drinks. Either way, the prospects for the gay bar business in the next six months or so are pretty grim.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope the owner of Two Friends located in Burlington VT wakes up before his just opened Bistro gets a bad rap!  I am not rating the food at this Bistro, but rather the club it turns into at night. It was a good experience with the people there, great friends made that night as we were up with a bunch of friends already. However the owner when it comes to the club part is a bit of a watcher and also has a problem with younger having a good time in there. Seems to have it drilled in his head that if you are younger you are not responsible. He kicked one of our group members out for requesting a song and then asking over 30 mins later as to when it would be played. A bit of a problem as the owner of the club (at that point). Would not recommend any new people going to this establishment as it seems to be for older locals and if you are new to the area then it is not for you. Hit the bars downtown, much better and just as good and fun people (straight or gay)! This comes from a club owner myself of course he did not know that when speaking with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the owner of Two Friends located in Burlington VT wakes up before his just opened Bistro gets a bad rap!  I am not rating the food at this Bistro, but rather the club it turns into at night. It was a good experience with the people there, great friends made that night as we were up with a bunch of friends already. However the owner when it comes to the club part is a bit of a watcher and also has a problem with younger having a good time in there. Seems to have it drilled in his head that if you are younger you are not responsible. He kicked one of our group members out for requesting a song and then asking over 30 mins later as to when it would be played. A bit of a problem as the owner of the club (at that point). Would not recommend any new people going to this establishment as it seems to be for older locals and if you are new to the area then it is not for you. Hit the bars downtown, much better and just as good and fun people (straight or gay)! This comes from a club owner myself of course he did not know that when speaking with me.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Witeck</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/can-gay-businesses-survive-the-crunch-20090211/#comment-120980</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Witeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Japhy, thanks for shedding some light on the gay economy -- and the anecdotal evidence you shared.

Let me offer a few professional observations too.

First, I want to single out Windy City Times for a very prudent move by one of the community&#039;s best respected publications.  Tracy Baim and her staff made a timely cost-saving suggestion to report, write and publish as a virtual news room, and no longer bear the overhead of leased office space.  

Watching the tailspin in the media industry, it is clear to me that more newspapers and magazines are likely to find creative ways to adapt, lower costs and continue their professional work.  Sitting side by side at desks is simply not the future model for digital and information-based businesses (like news websites for instance.)

Other LGBT-owned businesses may be strapped for all the same reasons as the rest of small business owners -- fewer dollars in the economy, limited access to lending, and lots of uncertainty.

I for one encourage us all to think about our buying even more so right now -- not to go nuts, but to consider spending a bit extra at an independent gay-owned bookstore like our legendary Lambda Rising (www.lambdarising.com).  

Along with gay bars, our bookstores always have been refuges, community centers and resources to find others, to learn and be entertained about LGBT issues and lives.  If they disappear, trust me, all the mainstream book stores in the world won&#039;t include hundreds of excellent LGBT titles and magazines that we need and enjoy.

I am very happy this subject provokes so much dialogue and attention, and appreciate your taking this on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Japhy, thanks for shedding some light on the gay economy &#8212; and the anecdotal evidence you shared.</p>
<p>Let me offer a few professional observations too.</p>
<p>First, I want to single out Windy City Times for a very prudent move by one of the community&#8217;s best respected publications.  Tracy Baim and her staff made a timely cost-saving suggestion to report, write and publish as a virtual news room, and no longer bear the overhead of leased office space.  </p>
<p>Watching the tailspin in the media industry, it is clear to me that more newspapers and magazines are likely to find creative ways to adapt, lower costs and continue their professional work.  Sitting side by side at desks is simply not the future model for digital and information-based businesses (like news websites for instance.)</p>
<p>Other LGBT-owned businesses may be strapped for all the same reasons as the rest of small business owners &#8212; fewer dollars in the economy, limited access to lending, and lots of uncertainty.</p>
<p>I for one encourage us all to think about our buying even more so right now &#8212; not to go nuts, but to consider spending a bit extra at an independent gay-owned bookstore like our legendary Lambda Rising (www.lambdarising.com).  </p>
<p>Along with gay bars, our bookstores always have been refuges, community centers and resources to find others, to learn and be entertained about LGBT issues and lives.  If they disappear, trust me, all the mainstream book stores in the world won&#8217;t include hundreds of excellent LGBT titles and magazines that we need and enjoy.</p>
<p>I am very happy this subject provokes so much dialogue and attention, and appreciate your taking this on.</p>
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		<title>By: cruiser</title>
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		<dc:creator>cruiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a sad commentary when a show that has run for over 20 years has to close due to financial difficulties. Perhaps derrysf is right in his observation that most of the gay owned/operated business&#039; are running on an outdated &amp; antiquated business model. Get creative, do what Madonna does every few years, re-invent yourself, stay competitive, find that edge again, when you do that will bring not only your older established customers back, it will bring in new ones, a new infusion of life(so to speak)to a &quot;dying&quot; breed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a sad commentary when a show that has run for over 20 years has to close due to financial difficulties. Perhaps derrysf is right in his observation that most of the gay owned/operated business&#8217; are running on an outdated &amp; antiquated business model. Get creative, do what Madonna does every few years, re-invent yourself, stay competitive, find that edge again, when you do that will bring not only your older established customers back, it will bring in new ones, a new infusion of life(so to speak)to a &#8220;dying&#8221; breed.</p>
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		<title>By: cruiser</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/can-gay-businesses-survive-the-crunch-20090211/#comment-120671</link>
		<dc:creator>cruiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-120503&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sebbe&lt;/a&gt;: Europeans have always had a more liberal culture than Americans, we seem to get hung up on all sorts of things, we don&#039;t like to talk about sex(present company excepted of course)when we do it is in &quot;hushed tones&quot; like we&#039;re afraid someone will find out what we like to do behind closed doors, althoug it is becoming more acceptable in a lot of the larger cites around the country to see two people of the same gender kissing, holding hands, etc., but we still are a bit prudish when it comes to the body itself, sure we&#039;ll oogle pictures of half(or completely)naked guys(girls also, just so we don&#039;t get accused of exclusivity)we&#039;ll purchase porn for our personal libraries, we might even go to the occasional strip club(depending on which city you live in). Forgot where I was going with this :( 
Nonetheless it is a difficult time for everyone, maybe it&#039;s time for the gay business world to re-invent itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-120503" rel="nofollow">Sebbe</a>: Europeans have always had a more liberal culture than Americans, we seem to get hung up on all sorts of things, we don&#8217;t like to talk about sex(present company excepted of course)when we do it is in &#8220;hushed tones&#8221; like we&#8217;re afraid someone will find out what we like to do behind closed doors, althoug it is becoming more acceptable in a lot of the larger cites around the country to see two people of the same gender kissing, holding hands, etc., but we still are a bit prudish when it comes to the body itself, sure we&#8217;ll oogle pictures of half(or completely)naked guys(girls also, just so we don&#8217;t get accused of exclusivity)we&#8217;ll purchase porn for our personal libraries, we might even go to the occasional strip club(depending on which city you live in). Forgot where I was going with this :(<br />
Nonetheless it is a difficult time for everyone, maybe it&#8217;s time for the gay business world to re-invent itself.</p>
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		<title>By: mikeandrewsdantescove</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikeandrewsdantescove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw Frank Marino&#039;s show a couple weeks ago and it&#039;s amazing.  He&#039;s jokes are right on.  The performances of Madonna, Cher and Michael Jackson was amazing.  Plus, I bought he DVD and bonus features of Britney Spears &amp; Whitney Houston.

Congratulations on 20+ years of running this show.

Mike Andrews
Sex @ Itunes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxEopoTP4X8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw Frank Marino&#8217;s show a couple weeks ago and it&#8217;s amazing.  He&#8217;s jokes are right on.  The performances of Madonna, Cher and Michael Jackson was amazing.  Plus, I bought he DVD and bonus features of Britney Spears &amp; Whitney Houston.</p>
<p>Congratulations on 20+ years of running this show.</p>
<p>Mike Andrews<br />
Sex @ Itunes</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxEopoTP4X8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxEopoTP4X8</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sebbe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@derrysf - at the same time though, the &quot;new&quot; business model has allowed many gays to become successful at the new model.  Including David and Jaspy and many, many other successful gay bloggers that would most likely be working for someone else. While these bloggers I&#039;m sure would still have had successful careers without the meritocracy of the net, it has allowed them to have that much more control over their career path and given them a much quicker rise in their fields.  

As far as small independent bookstore, i&#039;m afraid they are past the point of return going forward, but there is still a niche to be filed by those that do it right.  Gay newspapers are unfortunately not moving forward fast enough with the times and hopefully some of them will be able to survive.  I think one of the most important points is that there two industries are facing the same challenges and difficulties that their &quot;mainstream&quot; counterparts are.  Hey, that has to be progress I assume that it is not just the lgbt bookstores and newspapers affected.  

Concerning gay bars, i&#039;m not so sure if I agree with your observation and I think there will be a place for them in the foreseeable future.  But, again, maybe its progress.  In Scandinavia (where I spend a lot of time), there are not many gay bars and clubs, because it is so accepted that almost everywhere could be described as a &quot;mixed&quot; environment.  It would be unheard of in Stockholm, Copenhagen, Oslo for someone to even give a second glance at two men kissing at a restaurant, bar or club.  

I suppose that is the point of equality and progress.  Inclusion and not segregation.  

I may just be rambling out of my ass (I haven&#039;t had a full pot of coffee yet), but that is my thoughts.  Do you guys agree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@derrysf &#8211; at the same time though, the &#8220;new&#8221; business model has allowed many gays to become successful at the new model.  Including David and Jaspy and many, many other successful gay bloggers that would most likely be working for someone else. While these bloggers I&#8217;m sure would still have had successful careers without the meritocracy of the net, it has allowed them to have that much more control over their career path and given them a much quicker rise in their fields.  </p>
<p>As far as small independent bookstore, i&#8217;m afraid they are past the point of return going forward, but there is still a niche to be filed by those that do it right.  Gay newspapers are unfortunately not moving forward fast enough with the times and hopefully some of them will be able to survive.  I think one of the most important points is that there two industries are facing the same challenges and difficulties that their &#8220;mainstream&#8221; counterparts are.  Hey, that has to be progress I assume that it is not just the lgbt bookstores and newspapers affected.  </p>
<p>Concerning gay bars, i&#8217;m not so sure if I agree with your observation and I think there will be a place for them in the foreseeable future.  But, again, maybe its progress.  In Scandinavia (where I spend a lot of time), there are not many gay bars and clubs, because it is so accepted that almost everywhere could be described as a &#8220;mixed&#8221; environment.  It would be unheard of in Stockholm, Copenhagen, Oslo for someone to even give a second glance at two men kissing at a restaurant, bar or club.  </p>
<p>I suppose that is the point of equality and progress.  Inclusion and not segregation.  </p>
<p>I may just be rambling out of my ass (I haven&#8217;t had a full pot of coffee yet), but that is my thoughts.  Do you guys agree?</p>
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		<title>By: derrysf</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/can-gay-businesses-survive-the-crunch-20090211/#comment-120416</link>
		<dc:creator>derrysf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The recent economic downturn has only increased already relentless pressure on the types of businesses mentioned here.  The small independent bookstore, gay newspaper, and even gay bar, have for years now been outdated business models increasingly displaced by cheaper and more efficient resources available online -- including blogs like this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The recent economic downturn has only increased already relentless pressure on the types of businesses mentioned here.  The small independent bookstore, gay newspaper, and even gay bar, have for years now been outdated business models increasingly displaced by cheaper and more efficient resources available online &#8212; including blogs like this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebbe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Gurlene - I spend my time and my pink dollars in Boston (South End), Greenwich, CT &amp; Stockholm, Sweden.  Good point that your making though.  And although I don&#039;t spend that much time in Greenwich anymore, I do admit I probably don&#039;t spend enough in NYC while I&#039;m there.  I guess I assume its even worse in smaller cities like Boston and Stockholm.

Oh and I think I&#039;m the only person I know under 30 who doesn&#039;t shop online.  Maybe once or twice a year a most.  It just always seemed so rural to me.  For people that don&#039;t really have the option but to go to actual stores.  

In my discussions so far with local business owners Boston seems to be moderately affected.  Owners/workers are telling me what they are primarily seeing is a drop of straight customers at restaurants, shops, etc.  Stockholm (as of my last trip back a few weeks ago), doesn&#039;t seem affected so far at all.  Of course in Sweden the safety net is MUCH stronger than here in this country.  

As a side note, none of my gay brothers and sisters that I personally know have lost there jobs (yet?).  As far as the straight ones, I do know a few that have become unemployed.  Mostly ones that work in the financial industry or in advertising.  

I&#039;d also be interested what everyone&#039;s experience has been so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Gurlene &#8211; I spend my time and my pink dollars in Boston (South End), Greenwich, CT &amp; Stockholm, Sweden.  Good point that your making though.  And although I don&#8217;t spend that much time in Greenwich anymore, I do admit I probably don&#8217;t spend enough in NYC while I&#8217;m there.  I guess I assume its even worse in smaller cities like Boston and Stockholm.</p>
<p>Oh and I think I&#8217;m the only person I know under 30 who doesn&#8217;t shop online.  Maybe once or twice a year a most.  It just always seemed so rural to me.  For people that don&#8217;t really have the option but to go to actual stores.  </p>
<p>In my discussions so far with local business owners Boston seems to be moderately affected.  Owners/workers are telling me what they are primarily seeing is a drop of straight customers at restaurants, shops, etc.  Stockholm (as of my last trip back a few weeks ago), doesn&#8217;t seem affected so far at all.  Of course in Sweden the safety net is MUCH stronger than here in this country.  </p>
<p>As a side note, none of my gay brothers and sisters that I personally know have lost there jobs (yet?).  As far as the straight ones, I do know a few that have become unemployed.  Mostly ones that work in the financial industry or in advertising.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d also be interested what everyone&#8217;s experience has been so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Gurlene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gurlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you who live in towns that have gay business but will not say what the name of the town is you are not doing us a service at all by not saying where you are. I personally would like to get a better feel of how small town gay businesses are doing and it would help to know where they (you) are. 

I question the people who commented on the situation on NYC. Everyday I see street placards on the outside of many a gay bar in the village saying happy hour, 1pm till closing, or 2-4-1 well drinks all day long. Even on Saturdays. One of the largest and oldest video stores in NYC on the Westside Highway @ Christopher street closed at the end of last month due to lack of business. And they had just remodeled the place too. 

Things are beyond bad here in NYC. They are atrocious. Do not be fooled by that. These bars are NOT packing them in like they used to. It has been going on since last summer. Another magazine/video store is going to close very soon and it opened only in September. Things are not rosy at all here. We are no different than out strait counterparts. When money is tight hang on to what you can.

The only people that will be recession proof is the online underwear section of International Male. No matter what gym queens worldwide will not be caught dead in unsexy underwear. At least that is the way it appears at my gym.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you who live in towns that have gay business but will not say what the name of the town is you are not doing us a service at all by not saying where you are. I personally would like to get a better feel of how small town gay businesses are doing and it would help to know where they (you) are. </p>
<p>I question the people who commented on the situation on NYC. Everyday I see street placards on the outside of many a gay bar in the village saying happy hour, 1pm till closing, or 2-4-1 well drinks all day long. Even on Saturdays. One of the largest and oldest video stores in NYC on the Westside Highway @ Christopher street closed at the end of last month due to lack of business. And they had just remodeled the place too. </p>
<p>Things are beyond bad here in NYC. They are atrocious. Do not be fooled by that. These bars are NOT packing them in like they used to. It has been going on since last summer. Another magazine/video store is going to close very soon and it opened only in September. Things are not rosy at all here. We are no different than out strait counterparts. When money is tight hang on to what you can.</p>
<p>The only people that will be recession proof is the online underwear section of International Male. No matter what gym queens worldwide will not be caught dead in unsexy underwear. At least that is the way it appears at my gym.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebbe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I support gay business whenever possible even if the price is higher.  I personally feel it is worth it and as long as I am able to I will.</description>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in my town there is a local gay owned bookstore.  I would support it but the prices are much higher than what I can find on Amazon or another chain bookstore.  If his prices were more competitive, I&#039;d be happy to shop there but I&#039;m not going to pay a higher price for something just because it&#039;s &quot;gay&quot;.  I feel the same way about paying a higher price for &quot;all gay cruises&quot; when I can go to the same destinations much cheaper on a mixed cruise.  

A gay clothing store recently closed and it was also priced higher than many competitors.

I&#039;m a capatialist pig and I say to stay in business you have to compete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in my town there is a local gay owned bookstore.  I would support it but the prices are much higher than what I can find on Amazon or another chain bookstore.  If his prices were more competitive, I&#8217;d be happy to shop there but I&#8217;m not going to pay a higher price for something just because it&#8217;s &#8220;gay&#8221;.  I feel the same way about paying a higher price for &#8220;all gay cruises&#8221; when I can go to the same destinations much cheaper on a mixed cruise.  </p>
<p>A gay clothing store recently closed and it was also priced higher than many competitors.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a capatialist pig and I say to stay in business you have to compete.</p>
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		<title>By: cruiser</title>
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		<dc:creator>cruiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in Seattle, about a year ago the only Gay bookstore, Beyond the Closet closed after 20 years in business, several of the older bars have closed after many years in business, or they have changed to straight clubs, it is a sad commentary on the current state of things withing the gay community. Everyone is struggling, and few are surviving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Seattle, about a year ago the only Gay bookstore, Beyond the Closet closed after 20 years in business, several of the older bars have closed after many years in business, or they have changed to straight clubs, it is a sad commentary on the current state of things withing the gay community. Everyone is struggling, and few are surviving.</p>
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		<title>By: Eminent Victorian</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/can-gay-businesses-survive-the-crunch-20090211/#comment-120078</link>
		<dc:creator>Eminent Victorian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Economic Crisis . . . doesn&#039;t care if you&#039;re LGBT or not.  
But, I agree that is all the more impetus for gay money supporting gay and gay-supportive businesses.  AND it&#039;s all the more reason why publishing the names and businesses of those who back anti-LGBT initiatives is also so important, so we can make informed consumer decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Economic Crisis . . . doesn&#8217;t care if you&#8217;re LGBT or not.<br />
But, I agree that is all the more impetus for gay money supporting gay and gay-supportive businesses.  AND it&#8217;s all the more reason why publishing the names and businesses of those who back anti-LGBT initiatives is also so important, so we can make informed consumer decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: GayBobVT</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/can-gay-businesses-survive-the-crunch-20090211/#comment-120063</link>
		<dc:creator>GayBobVT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The good news in Vermont last weekend was that a gay bar, Two Friends Bistro, opened in South Burlington.  http://houseoflemay.blog-city.com/vermont_has_a_gay_bar.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The good news in Vermont last weekend was that a gay bar, Two Friends Bistro, opened in South Burlington.  <a href="http://houseoflemay.blog-city.com/vermont_has_a_gay_bar.htm" rel="nofollow">http://houseoflemay.blog-city......ay_bar.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Wolf</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/can-gay-businesses-survive-the-crunch-20090211/#comment-120060</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This one of the reasons that GAY Money should support GAY Businesses.  Especially now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one of the reasons that GAY Money should support GAY Businesses.  Especially now.</p>
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		<title>By: ggreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ggreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many Castro businesses simply don’t know how to compete in the market place. The local “business association” that many gay businesses belong to helps to keep potential competing merchants from renting or leasing space in the Castro.  It also keeps current merchants from competing with each other over price or carrying the same items (the customer always gets screwed). As far as Mecca closing, hiring Donna Sachet is always the kiss of death for any enterprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many Castro businesses simply don’t know how to compete in the market place. The local “business association” that many gay businesses belong to helps to keep potential competing merchants from renting or leasing space in the Castro.  It also keeps current merchants from competing with each other over price or carrying the same items (the customer always gets screwed). As far as Mecca closing, hiring Donna Sachet is always the kiss of death for any enterprise.</p>
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