He’s on the 10th.

Swarm, did I scoop you?

- Courtney Cox’s character was shown performing oral sex on her partner on Cougar Town (I think the first or second episode?) which aired on ABC in prime time. I don’t have a link for this one, sorry.

- There was at least one fellatio dance move that aired on Dancing with the stars, from 2:21 at this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HlPQcUFIoM

Hetero kissing and/or people giving the finger airs so often you don’t really need me to come up with links for those, right?

As for the simulated fellatio, no, I cannot name another person who did this on ABC. But I don’t think Pink’s having done it on FOX changes the argument. The standards for acceptable performances are the same across the major networks, because television viewers have decided the standards (You can say this is untrue because Disney owns ABC. But then I say why the hell is Disney having Eminem bragging about raping 17 women on their channel when children are watching?). The homophobia starts with the viewers. People didn’t complain about Pink, people didn’t make it into this controversy that we have with Adam Lambert because they’re comfortable with (or at least tolerant of) most kinds of raging heterosexuality nowadays. People DID complain about Adam Lambert’s performance, and instead of recognizing the double standards that these homophobic viewers hold, ABC decided to endorse those double standards.

Reny, you can defend ABC/Disney here all you want. Most of the rest of us know what we’re looking at.

Because I’m not buying into the BS his handlers are feeding you, that’s why. If they make it about the same-sex kiss, then maybe the public will forget about the simulated fellatio and flipping the bird to the audience, which were far more offensive and inappropriate parts of his performance.

“If straight performers act that way (granted they have their opponents, but they are also still given an audience), then gay performers should expect their similar acts to be treated by the same standards.”

Can you name a single straight person that performed a similar act on ABC primetime and got away with it? Pink did it on FOX, which is not owned by Disney, so its not a valid example.

Anyone else?

I think you’re wrong to say he’s hurting the “gay cause.” If that’s how Lambert is, that’s how he is. If straight performers act that way (granted they have their opponents, but they are also still given an audience), then gay performers should expect their similar acts to be treated by the same standards.

ABC IS going out of their way to hurt Lambert. Because Lambert caused them to cause themselves trouble. Some homophobes complained about his performance. Caving in to their stupid ass requests, ABC rightfully got called out on its double standards. Now they have taken shit from the homophobes and the non-homophobes, and instead of blaming themselves they want to punish Adam Lambert for how badly they handled this.

But, Jesus, just think of the juicy autobiography he’s going to be able to write someday. LOL (they’ll be reading it with “I Will Survive” playing in the background !) I said on one of these threads that it was probably the best thing that could have happened to him. He’s growing taller with this in a lot of different ways.

And here the poor guy didn’t want to be political. Sorry, Adam, history and destiny came a knocking. LMAO!

Their position is puppets on a string manipulated by overzealous Glambert fans.

As LIL said, “Bottom line is ABC is going out of their way to hurt, humiliate and destroy the best male artist the US has produced in a generation or two.”

That’s what it’s all about. ABC hurt The Precious, and the Glamberts want it to suffer. Don’t kid yourself that it has anything to do with gay rights.

I never watched Kimmel before… he’s a creepy dude. Unwatchable. They’re passing around his monologue from last night..some gay MOCKING routine..@ around 8:50 to 12:00. The straight fangirls think he’s “supporting” Adam. uh…no.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/1125.....dec-2-2009

Overall Adam is not crashing one bit IMO. He’s everywhere. He picked up a load of spins this week and is about 3/4 of the way to the level you need for top 40 constant play.

TONS of radio interviews with enthusiastic dj’s all day and the Hard Rock Cafe SD thing with big pomp going on. His album came in #7 on the most used world chart and he’s not been released in AU or a bunch of Asia Pac countries.

Subo did 1.284.000 units!

This Grammy awards nomination video from yesterday has him at 2:02 getting the only applause of the segment. Jesus, this guy is charisma personified especially in that video clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....._embedded#

Here, just for YOU:): http://tiny.cc/fZF0g

Network executives come and go, gay people are forever no matter what they do to us.

As for LGBT portrayals on network TV, they are almost always portrayed as clowns, or emotional cripples unable to stand up for themselves and consider themselves on an equal footing with the straight world.

1) Simulated oral sex
2) Simualted digit penetration (I must haved missed that one. I saw his snapping a girl’s tights at the crotch)
3) Open Mouthed Homosexual Kissing

Yup, they called homosexual kissing in their statement vulgar and repulsive and against good Christian Values.

The problem the Liberty councel had wasn’t that the performance was too vulgar but it was too gay.

ABC has BLACKLISTED Adam Lambert because of a double standard, and they got our supposed pre-eminent anti-defamation organization to cave into it. That’s what the history of this will show.

I’ve always like Diane Sawyer, and I looked forward to making her my evening news anchor. Sorry Diane, I’ll just never feel right about tuning you in now.

You can expect to see:

The Complaint and it’s path
The supporting investigation docs
Any correspondence relevant to the event from the public
Any resolution and the basis for it

Whereas they are protected, you can expect to not see:

Intra & Inter agency memos
Deliberative memos
Personally identifiable info i.e.citizen names

I would do it myself but I am up to my ears in FOIAs from real life.

IMO This will focus on the 9:55CST p.m showing possibly being outside of the safe harbor zone AND community standards, the dicey one. Adam can say whatever he wants but people are writing and calling their local channels to say they did NOT find it offensive to balance the community standards pov.

@Reny the AMA’s were rated PG 14+. Been to a prom or seen a video lately?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.co.....has-o.html

Adam Lambert’s urging to fans not to be upset with ABC for canceling his upcoming appearance on “Jimmy Kimmel Live” is making more sense today. On his Twitter page Wednesday night, Lambert explained “It’s the FCC heat,” a statement that ABC has declined to address.

The “FCC heat” comes from a complaint filed by Liberty Counsel on Nov. 24 against ABC, demanding that the network pay a financial penalty “for airing such an outrageously lewd and filthy performance during a show and time period that is targeted for family audiences.”

In the complaint, Liberty contends that Lambert’s Nov. 22 performance was both obscene and indecent and urges that the FCC take action against ABC. Liberty Counsel is a nonprofit public interest law firm that is closely tied to the late Rev. Jerry Falwell’s Liberty University and provides legal assistance in defense of “Christian religious liberty, the sanctity of human life and the traditional family.”

That director is not a mind-reader, and could not anticipate that one of the acts might decide to go off-script and “enhance” his performance for shock value. You remind me of Glambert blaming the parents for letting their children stay up and watch him perform on the show. Where would he be if those same children did not vote for his ungrateful ass on American Idol?

All directors on tv and their camera people have detailed scripts in advance and during the show blocking each move. This is basic, everyone knows it. The director knows the technical moves and they are run through many times. Nothing is left to chance. The director could have easily called for a different camera shot.

The ABC “censor” (read director) hit the AUDIO censor in error instead of the VIDEO when the dancer was pulled that 10 inches too close. We heard silence during the bj. There was no reason to censor lyrics they are clean especially at that moment. The silence was confusing while seeing the bj and THAT was the “problem”. Even the song’s writer was puzzled since it was clean.

Lambert is paying for a 10 inch judgement “lapse” [perhaps, if THAT] and ABC’s incompetence during the show. A show they pimped like no other as the most shocking thing ever seen on T.V.

The only other acceptable explanation is that ABC’s allowing the images was intentional.

LOL. Only the former Claymates would remember that one. Also, the network did not complain about Pink adding that move after the rehearsals, so they must not have been blindsided by it at the live show.

@David Ehrenstein “Where’s GLAAD in all of this?”

Perhaps they have grown a brain, and realized that Glambert’s freak show was damaging to the gay cause. To paraphrase the old saying, you’ll catch more flies with honey than with giving them the middle finger.

“We decided not to move forward with the booking at this time.” “That is all that the network is going to say about the matter”

So there you have it. Is it ABC or ASS?

Yes, I’m old enough to remember the AFA boycott/letter campaign against Ellen when she came out. They do their thing so often you’d think networks would just start ignoring them.

One time the gays boycotted/wrote enough to get Dr. Laura off TV. That seems to be only successful campaign against a program that was organized by gays at a netroots level (no GLAAD involvement that I can recall).

Meaning:

1. Jimmy Kimmel is a bullshit corporate tool pretending to be counterculture;

2. ABC wants to make sure their programs are safe for homophobes to watch; and

3. When you pretend you’re gay-fucking somebody, it better be Ben Affleck.

At sdsmail.org you can mass-email a bunch of Disney folks — in my note, I pointedly said that any gays who worked there were officially Uncle Toms now — and email to anne.sweeney@disney.com seems to work.

Lol, exactly…

Sleeping of course.

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And yea GRRLROMEO the AFA ake American Facist Association
has a neat little feature, they send out a cookie cutter
mass e-mail blast to their lemmings, they simply cut and
paste to the address they are directed to and said inbox
is flooded with “outraged viewers” who most likely wouldn’t
know Adam Lambert if he dry humped their face personally.
We need a similar Gay org to mimic the same shit the rightwing-nutbag lunatics have perfected and been doing for years…….