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Cardinal Dolan Thinks He Was “Outmarketed” On Marriage Equality

Timothy DolanIn his never-ending quest to find an excuse for his inability to stop the momentum for marriage equality, New York’s Cardinal Timothy Dolan has a new explanation: the Catholic Church was “outmarketed.” In an interview on Sunday’s Meet the Press, Dolan complained that the entire universe was aligned against him.

“When you have forces like Hollywood, when you have forces like politicians, when you have forces like some opinion-molders that are behind it, it’s a tough battle,” he said.

Then there was that little problem of homophobia. “We’ve been caricatured as being anti-gay,” Dolan said, as his thoughts trailed off. ”And as much as we’d say, ‘Wait a minute, we’re pro marriage, we’re pro traditional marriage, we’re not anti anybody,’ I don’t know.” Of course, Dolan’s idea of being pro-gay is to say he loves us and then tell us why we’re a threat to society. Funny how people might interpret that as being anti-gay.

Of course, the real problem is that Dolan has a bad message, not that others are more clever at spin. Even Dolan seems to know that he’s got the losing argument on marriage equality. ‘‘I think I’d be a Pollyanna to say that there doesn’t seem to be kind of a stampede to do this,’’ Dolan said. ‘‘I regret that.’’

 

 

 

By:           John Gallagher
On:           Dec 2, 2013
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  • 17 Comments
    • Dakotahgeo
      Dakotahgeo

      It is sad to watch Doozie Dolan and the Catholic church losing so much ground and relevance in the world and society today. Is it any wonder that nobody is listening to this Pompous Pilate and his minions any more? Nope!!!

      Dec 2, 2013 at 2:45 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • 2eo
      2eo

      I wonder if there is any credence to the rumour that top catholics were going to poison the new pope after all?

      Dec 2, 2013 at 3:14 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dakotahgeo
      Dakotahgeo

      @2eo: Heh heh heh… well, if they tell us to watch for white smoke, we’ll know they weren’t rumors, hee hee he.

      Dec 2, 2013 at 3:16 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ogre Magi
      Ogre Magi

      I am sooooooooooooooo sick of christians

      Dec 2, 2013 at 3:36 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ken
      Ken

      I think everyone heard him wrong. They quote him as saying, “We’ve been caricatured as being anti-gay,” when he probably really said “We’ve been characterized as being anti-gay.”

      Dec 2, 2013 at 4:36 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Hrrich
      Hrrich

      I’m so sorry that people feel that all Christians are against the LGBT community. I know that so many of the churches did horrible things to us. Consider a local Episcopal congregation where all are welcome.

      Dec 2, 2013 at 4:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dakotahgeo
      Dakotahgeo

      @Hrrich: Thank you for your comments. It IS a well-known fact that hundreds of churches are GLBTQI-supportive today, not only in their talk but in their walk. Most people who are vehemently against Christian churches either don’t have any bases in fact for their negative comments, or they haven’t discovered the difference between “Christian” and “christian” and are too lazy to research the facts. The proof then falls on them to provide. Instead of dwelling on all the horrible things (yes, I also suffered many negative aspects) that christians have done to us, I prefer to shed light on those churches that are working hard alongside us to make things right and better! It all really depends on a persons’ outlook and attitude!

      Dec 2, 2013 at 5:13 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • StephK
      StephK

      Cardinal Dolan…the only prominent religious leader in NYC who remained silent when that young man was killed last year in the Village for being gay.There was nary a peep out of St. Patrick’s. Re: Dolan’s remarks about being outmarketed in the marriage equality fight..indeed he was, and by no other than Pope Francis himself who chided the Roman Catholic heirarchy for their obsessions with the issue. Essentially, Dolan was done in by his own boss. Love it!

      Dec 2, 2013 at 5:19 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • getbackjoe94
      getbackjoe94

      I’ve heard people at the church I went to say that. “We’re not ‘anti-’ anything. We just don’t like what God doesn’t like.”

      Yeah, pretty sure that’s exactly what people are talking about.

      Dec 2, 2013 at 7:02 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ferryboi
      Ferryboi

      Or maybe New Yorkers aren’t falling for his “aw, shucks” demeanor. This guy is worse than Sen. Chuck Schumer in that he never found at TV camera he didn’t like. He is routinely doing his “golly gee” schtick on all NYC and national TV news channels, yet somehow he was outmarketed by the gays. Maybe our argument is more compelling, and the narrative not so phony?

      Dec 3, 2013 at 3:05 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • blackhook
      blackhook

      Yet another creepy, closeted, Catholic cleric!

      Dec 3, 2013 at 3:29 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Harley
      Harley

      I’m sure there is more the a few molested 10 years old boys hidden away in his closet somewhere. The more anti-gay you are, the more self hating gay you are. Many studies have proven that. Lets get out the ol’ penile plethograph and a few Falcon flicks and test the theory.

      Dec 3, 2013 at 6:05 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
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      Anne J. Pine

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      Dec 3, 2013 at 8:45 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • kevininbuffalo
      kevininbuffalo

      This is like the losing politician who says “We didn’t get our message across.” Truth is the voters got the message loud and clear that’s why you lost. They heard your hateful message Timmy and rejected it.

      Dec 3, 2013 at 9:51 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ferryboi
      Ferryboi

      At least Timmy and his fellow clerics won’t have to strain their voices during mass. Any time I’ve popped into a Catholic Church, the pews are barely 1/3 full, so no need to strain yourself yelling to the back pew.

      Dec 3, 2013 at 1:04 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Teleny
      Teleny

      Rush Limbaugh just attacked the Pope, calling him a Marxist because the Pope has advocated for the poor. The Pope may not be in our corner (yet) but he’s definitely an improvement. I find Cardinal Dolan soooo disappointing. He is blind.

      Dec 3, 2013 at 6:05 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • BlogShag
      BlogShag

      @Ogre Magi: LOL! You and me both. Their whole aura stems around intolerance and hate and conservatism. None of which seem to be redeeming qualities in the real world.

      Dec 4, 2013 at 12:28 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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