The HP case is a 2004 case, Peterson v. Hewlett-Packard.

I’m a sexist lesbian? Um OK. Beauty pageants are inherently sexist, judging women on how beautiful and sexy they are (and don’t give me crap about scholarships or the interview portion or whatever, until none of the pageants have the swimsuit portion and an unattractive, intelligent, older woman wins, they will be sexist, period).

However, I think a distinction can be made between posting unnecessary, harassing comments in the work place and the beauty queen who is asked a question and answers it honestly on public television. I never really followed her after the new about her response to Hilton, but I’ve never really heard her say anything uber-controversial that I would consider in poor taste and offensive to gays. But again, I don’t really read news about her, so maybe she has said some mean things.

I didn’t realize she had a clause in her contract saying she couldn’t use her crown in politics. That would most definitely be a breach if that’s true.

She has the right to believe what she wants, she doesn’t have the right to alter her job by skipping events etc… supposedly to fit with her beliefs. From what I read she was skipping pre-planned pagent set up events to go speak at anti-gay marriage rallies. If that is the situation then she has no case, those events were set up and she agreed to participate then just didn’t show up. You can’t just not show up for work for three weeks with no notice then try to claim religeous discrimination when they fire you.

Additionally, you cannot use religeon as an sheild from termination if it conflicts with the law of the land. i.e. if your religeous beliefs tell you that women shouldn’t work outside the home, you cannot refuse to come to work because there is a woman in the office next to you. Employment law always trumps religeon in those types of cases.

Sorry Sis, but if somebody says that blacks shouldn’t be allowed to get married because “Thats the way I was brought up” it’s racist. If somebody says “women shouldn’t be allowed to vote because thats the way I was brought up” that is sexist. If somebody says “Gays shouldn’t be allowed to marry because thats the way I was brought up, that is homophobic”

But I see that you are one of those right wing nuts who tries to use the lefts own labels against them. You think that calling gays sexist for their problems with Carrie Prejan will send us all scurying away? Well sorry Einstein, but pointing out somebody’s bigotry isn’t sexist just because they are a woman….nice try though.

Actually, that’s not true at all.

One cannot be fired because of his religious beliefs, but one CAN be fired for using them as a pretext to be an ass on the job. HP fired a homophobic bigot who refused to participate in diversity days and who posted Bible verses on his cube about how gays are abonimable, etc.

He sued claiming “religious discrimination” and the court found that he had a right to his beliefs, but did not have a right to expect HP to allow him to damage their business internally and externally by using their business as a podium to impose them on colleagues and clients.

That precedent means that Ms. Prejean would have no case at all, even if Trump *had* fired her on the spot for her political views in favor of bigotry.

Mix in the fact that she missed numerous appearances that she was expected to make as part of the employment agreement she signed, and the fact that she likely violated another part of her employment agreement that forbade her from using her crown as a podium for political activism, and her case is deader than Ted Kennedy.

Hopefully, the Trump organization pursues her to get a (hopefully quite high) legal bill paid when the frivolous suit is dismissed or stricken.

http://www.catholic.org/nation.....p?id=34347

N.B. this is an uber conservative Catholic site that tends to attract people with a more devout affiliation. Thus, for those people who may find those kinds of views from those people offensive, you may not want to read the comments. It is very interesting though.

and your straightish self won’t notice that you have nothing to do on this website…

“Nothing is her statement was homophobe- you gays don’t know what homophobe is.”

This is Prejean’s statement:

“Well, I think it’s great that Americans are able to choose one or the other. We live in a land where you can choose same-sex marriage or opposite marriage. And you know what, in my country, in my family, I think that I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman. No offense to anyone out there, but that’s how I was raised, and that’s how I think it should be between a man and a woman.”

Well, sis, the homophobe part of that is that gay people do not have the right to choose marriage in most parts of the country. The opinion expressed would be inoffensive if she understood what she was talking about. Many people have tended to misquote her in order to allow to her to sound coherent. This matters because, ever after stepping into the role of anti-gay spokeswoman, Prejean made statements that made it obvious she had never seriously thought through gay adoption or learned what the laws actually were before expressing an opinion.

Can you understand that if you are going to go on TV and say I’m worse than you and that you deserve special rights I shouldn’t have, you should at least give the impression of having seriously considered the possibility that you might be wrong? Or that, in the absence of doing that, you might in fact be a bad person?

Now, go back to telling women how they don’t understand sexism.

We’re going to resume our practice of marriage equality, in less than one year, in California. The case is Perry vs. Schwarzenegger you bitch!

I have news for Miss Prejan, you can SAY whatever you want, but that doesn’t mean that there aren’t consequences for your bigotry. The Miss CA. pagent was under no obligation to agree with your bigotry, and companies like Cover Girl, and Pepsi are under no obligation to hire you as a spokesperson. Freedom of Speech doesn’t guarentee you a spokesmodel gig. You gave your opinion, now live with the consequences of everybody knowing you are a bigot.

In that case, I need to sue a whole bunch of fuckers.