One of the many unfortunate aspects of the Pulse nightclub massacre is the number of antigay wingnuts and all-around creepos crawling out of the woodwork in order to capitalize on the attack and make a name for themselves as timely hate merchants.
A recent case in point: Pastor Donnie Romero of Stedfast Baptist Church, who Raw Story reports told his congregation he agrees “100 percent” with Roger Jimenez, the Baptist pastor whose recent sermon suggests taking the survivors out to a firing squad to “blow their brains out.”
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Impossibly, Romero has added horrific new depths to this already inhuman sentiment:
How about we take this to the next level?
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“These 50 sodomites are all perverts and pedophiles, and they are the scum of the earth, and the earth is a little bit better place now,” Romero said on Sunday.
“And I’ll take it a step further, because I heard on the news today, that there are still several dozen of these queers in ICU and intensive care. And I will pray to God like I did this morning, I will do it tonight, I’ll pray that God will finish the job that that man started, and he will end their life, and by tomorrow morning they will all be burning in hell, just like the rest of them, so that they don’t get any more opportunity to go out and hurt little children.”
In other key moments of Romero’s sanctimonious hate-mongering, he calls Sodom and Gomorrah the first ever “queer mass murder,” and says he thinks other mega-churches are soft-pedaling the antigay rhetoric and should step up on the unstoppered evil.
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Unsurprisingly, The Southern Poverty Law Center has categorized Romero’s church as an anti-LGBT hate group.
gayhope1990
He’s likely to be Republican or a big closeted case.Where is the so-called Christian love?
Dave Downunder
Despite the number of studies done that prove there is no link between homosexuality and paedophilia these religious nut jobs will never be convinced. There seems to be a consistent theme with these people in that they blindly believe what they want to believe even if it flies in the face of scientific proof.
It’s the same brainwashing that makes them believe in a fictional character from a book written thousands of years ago in an ancient language that no longer exists and has been handed around, misinterpreted and redefined over centuries to suit the needs of those seeking to use it to control others.
I am at my wits end with this issue because it is being bandied around even more of late because it is the most inflammatory and repugnant tool available to those who wish to vilify us. I wish that those who make these accusations against our community could be held legally accountable for deliberately trying to incite hatred and bigotry. Unfortunately freedom of speech allows them to say what they want even if it results in mass shootings.
I apologise for this overly long and negative post but this article just hit a sore point and I needed to vent so go easy on me with your replies.
Cheers.
Billy Budd
@Dave Downunder: In my opinion, religion is the root of all evil.
stadacona
90% of mosques on earth share the same view, which is the root cause of Orlando. The queer left is delusional and only focuses on a handful of extreme Christian churches.
Dave Downunder
@Billy Budd: I’m with you on that one Billy
Dave Downunder
@stadacona: Unfortunately it is more than a handful and while the extremist churches may be in the minority they are by far the loudest and most damaging. Also, it’s not like the rest of the churches are speaking out and condemning the vile rhetoric that the extremist few are putting out there. Their silence means they are passively condoning it.
Mo Bro
And what about Omar Mateen’s brothers at mosques across the globe?
I feel pretty certain that their animosity toward us far outweighs that of a couple delusional pastors, but reporting on that wouldn’t fit snugly into the PC agenda, now, would it?
Mr. De Koff’s anger is woefully misdirected.
Scribe38
@Mo Bro: You’re full of sh!t and dishonest. If you were a queerty reader instead of some troll that surfs the net looking to make points against the left you’d know that this site has repeatedly posted stories about gay men tossed off building by Muslim extremist.
@stadacona: Christians are who we mostly have to deal with in this country. I’m for speaking out against anyone, anywhere who makes the lives of LGBTQ folks difficult. Christians like this are who Trump plans on meeting with soon, and these types of Christians are the folks who might have the ear of the next President. There are a certain percent of Christians that would love to throw every gay in jail or worst. So yeah we are going to stay on them to make sure we don’t turn into the middle east.
kenwade56
Time for “churches” which decide to push a “political” agenda, including spewing hate speech as a fundraising activity, to begin paying taxes. Perhaps then, using religion will be less profitable.
Dr. Arthur Frederick Ide
Pastor Donnie Romero of Stedfast Baptist Church, and Roger Jimenez, another hate-filled Baptist pastor calling for LGBTQ people to have “their brains blown out” would cry foul and try to have arrested any sane person who would call for these preying preachers to be taken out the same way they clamor to their tyrant god to execute LGBTQ people. It would be a surprise for them if some person entered their pleasure dens of predatory verbal ejaculation and had a christan jihad in the name of justice. Roger Jimenez is known as a closeted gay man, but the rants or the royalist Romero has me thinking that he, too, is a closeted gay man not able to get over being jilted by his fantasy love object.
IanHunter
He is a sick fuck.
tsginamarieva
I’m not a tax attorney but I’d bet that the IRS would love to hear about these two “pastors,” and the fact that they’re advocating the violent deaths of a whole class of people. Even the First Amendment doesn’t consider that “free speech” or practicing one’s relligious beliefs. Anyone know the IRS tip line phone number?
dwes09
@Mo Bro: I love the humor provided by delusional right wingers like you. The fact that he was known to drink too much indicates he was not a religious man, as alcohol is prohibited to Muslims, and the extremists are pretty insistent on that. But in the simple, childish world of the right winger, facts hold sway over fear and myth and lie.
Were this to have been a Christian man (like the ones who blow up child care centers or slaughter employees of women’s clinics or murder individual gay men or kill their own children in exorcisms) you would quickly claim they were individual crazies. But when an individual disturbed Muslim man commits an act of insanity, it is clearly (in your simple mind) the collective act of Islam.
This is not about political correctness it is about getting a grip on reality and understanding that your (and i mean you) imagination is not the same as reality. Understanding that complex events and motives are complex, not simple and childish.
Hussain-TheCanadian
@dwes09: People with small/simple minds Dwes don’t realize that the biggest supporter of Salafi Islamism is the very politicians, rich families, and the pentagon who support, fund, train and politically cover the governments/groups who spread this virus within the Middle East and Globally.
It is easier to say “Islam”, but it seems that many American and European Politicians loves this version of “Islam” I mean I don’t see them doing anything to the Gulf monarchies that exported this horror to everybody.
onthemark
@Dave Downunder: I’m not a believer, but I’m always mystified by comments like yours. In what out-of-the-way place do you live where the “rest of the churches” are not “speaking out” about Orlando? Here in New England plenty of them are speaking out.
The obscure crackpot preachers described here have barely even been mentioned in the mainstream news, if at all. So if they’re the “loudest,” they’re fortunately not very loud. A loud voice from the past, Pat Robertson (who ran for president in 1988) is nowadays treated as a senile joke and an afterthought. These cranks are “damaging” no doubt to any unlucky gay kid whose idiot parents go to these crackpot churches (and I’m not discounting that problem), but not “damaging” to anybody in the outside world. These morons in Texas are being monitored as hate groups, rightly so, but their hateful talk probably won’t turn into any action, if recent history is a guide.
If someone were to expect the vast majority of Muslims to spend all their time condemning violence by every random Muslim crackpot, you’d probably consider that demand to be unreasonable and impractical. And yet you turn around and make a very similar demand in the other direction. You’re expecting the vast majority of Christians to criticize every obscure incident in Texas of violent talk (TALK not actions) that they’ve probably never even heard about.
bryanjb
Yo I need boo boo to go ahead and open back up the good book and get some hooked on phonics. The sin of Sodom and Gamorrah was the sin of in-hospitality. They raped an angel ya’ll. They thought that angel was so hot they rape them rather than taking hospitality on the visitor. So boo thing might need to look out her window and check for brimstone because its looking mighty cloudy.
Mo Bro
@Scribe38: My statement contained neither shit nor dishonesty. Now, why not try saying something useful, and not just name-calling (not that I’ll hold my breath).
The End
@Mo Bro: you have the perfect chance to have a back and forth with someone who isn’t name calling but makes valid points, dwes09, but you skipped over that comment completely and when straight for the chance of being a victim.
Mo Bro
@The End: Hardly the perfect chance for a legitimate back-and-forth:
dwes09 claimed that Mateen wasn’t a religious Muslim because “he was known to drink too much,” and sorry, but the logical lobe of my brain dictates I can’t respond to a statement as asinine as that. Terror apologists such as dwes09 distinctly lack intelligent communications skills and aren’t worth the effort to engage.
‘Mo Bro
The End
@Mo Bro: do religious muslims usually go drinking at gay bars?
He is the same as all the others that have done these things. They have some twisted view that they THINK are being religious when they are not. Same as christians who think they are being religious when they want to own a weapon that is created to kill, regardless of the circumstances, because they pick and choose what basic morals to live by.
And I am very far away for making excuses for a religion, every single one is responsible for the death of countless people and they should all be either wiped out (the religion not the people) or kept out of the lives of others who don’t believe their made up rubbish.
dean089
Religion is a cancer on the body human. Until it is completely excised and destroyed we will never be anything more than gibbering savages looking to the sky for answers.
Stilinski26
@gayhope1990: and a Latino lol
Transiteer
More Proof, that there is NO god, the bible is a Fiction, and it’s all man made crap to control people, to be run by and for the con-men that use it. this turkey should end up under a bus. A bad person, an evil person, an unhappy person, and a dishonest person – throw him under.
Daniel-Reader
What a hypocrite. The bible says any commerce on the Sabbath is a capitol offense no exceptions yet these fundie churches routinely pay the electric company to have the lights and air conditioning running, and they routinely pay their leaders. Total hypocrites unless they wipe themselves out for breaking one of the Ten Commandments of Keeping thet Sabbath Holy by not engaging in or causing others to engage in commerce on the Sabbath. They always cherrypick when attacking others but never apply it to themselves. Like the command of “Judge not lest ye be judged for how you judge others you are also guilty”.
The End
@Daniel-Reader: maybe it’s one of those convenient ‘breaking news just in’ moments like when it was suddenly OK to eat fish on a Friday after nearly 2000 years.
Bob LaBlah
Whats so special about the location of this guys church that it wasn’t included in the article? I always thought news was based on the five W’s: who, what, when, where, and why. Or at least that was what we were taught in Journalism 101.
Dave Downunder
@onthemark: Thank you for your reply. You make some very god points and it’s definitely something for me to ponder. I will admit that I was quite worked up last night when I posted here.
Just to be clear I would expect the majority of Muslim’s to condemn the acts of the radicals just as I think the Christian majority should speak out against the Christian extremists who spread lies. Self regulation within religions would be a positive thing but will probably never happen. I guess I just want religious leaders from all faiths who do not condemn homosexuals to call out the lies that extremists spread so that other followers don’t start to believe them.
Again thanks for your comments and for stating your point without being a jerk about it.
Cheers,
Dave
Louis
Why is it when we wish inhuman people like this to die that WE are the intolerant ones and WE are the despicable ones?
Fuck this man people like this have absolutely no respect for the value of other peoples lives especially if it is OURS.
So when this man finally takes his last breath I certainly will not cry a tear.
These people are so despicable and heartless and horrific yet we are supposed to show their venomous words and horrific wishes upon us TOLERANCE, RESPECT, UNDERSTANDING, OR EMPATHY?
Hell no they are undeserving of any of the above when they clearly continue to prove they lack the abilities of showing any of the above towards us as Americans to begin with.
What a sickening bastard and this man doesnt even have the guts to allow people to post their thoughts about what he said.
I looked at his facebook page and as typical of cowards like this man he wont allow anyone to post on his page unless they are his (desperate and equally unconscionable) friends.
The audacity of these despicable people to claim WE are the problem yet THIS THIS is the insanity that THEY spread in this world this is the extremism that perpetuates the kind of hatred that was perpetuated upon our community in Orlando and in that Mexican gay bar recently as well.
Hypocrites absolute hypocrites.
Please understand also this isnt a blanket statement about ALL Christians only a few who choose to continue to pollute this planet with their hatred and cruelty and inhumanity towards us as human beings.
Religion is so distorted now and it should be based on LOVE not HATE yet these rotten people continue to paint it as exactly that: one of HATE not of LOVE.
Smh this man has no conscience to say what he said and hopefully in time his much deserved karma will be returned to him.
How dare these people continue to crap all over the loss of our lives as well as our rights and our dignity as human beings .
The audacity the utter audacity of these individuals ugh it just sickens me to no end.
Louis
@Dave Downunder: Claps absolutely agreed they need to step up to the plate instead of being silent and claiming they dont condone their attitudes.
If they do not condone their heinous and cruel attitudes towards us then they should be easily capable of speaking up against it and taking an actual stand .
onthemark
@Dave Downunder: Thank you for your very thoughtful reply! Analogies are often tough to make with this subject, I think, mainly because Protestant Christianity esp. in the U.S. is so tremendously varied and is fractured into tens of thousands of sects – some of them completely wacko. So after a point there are very few if any unifying factors. This tends to confuse Catholics & ex-Catholics who are used to seeing “religion in general” as a matter of dogma and hierarchy, which you either go along with, or break with.
Islam (both Shiite & Sunni) is not much like either of these approaches. It has a few extremely unifying factors – the hajj, Ramadan etc. – that Christianity doesn’t have at all, but it’s also tremendously fractured and varied.
I’ve noticed that the Queerty writers all seem to be ex-Catholic boys (or maybe secular Jewish boys) who are utterly unfamiliar with any non-Catholic churches and apparently never took a Comparative Religion class in college either. LOL.
But that’s a common problem in news media all over the U.S. and I’m guessing in Australia as well. The background knowledge would definitely help, imo, if you’re a gay writer writing about gay issues and trying to address religious homophobia.
Kangol
But he’s not Muslim so we have nothing to worry about, right?
Louis
@Kangol: Anyone who promotes this kind of insanity and extremism is one we should be concerned about no question about that.
Ken A.
This is OLD but I’ll comment.
Just another crazy trying to get his name in the media one way or the other and the media gave it to him.
Just another ploy to get money.