The bodies are still being identified and several prominent right wing-nuts are already using the Orlando tragedy to shamelessly promote their own political agendas and religious ideologies.
Related: The Internet Responds To The Orlando Tragedy
Donald Trump took a moment to accept “congratulations” for the attack. Sarah Palin used it to accuse Paul Ryan of being soft on Islam. Ann Coulter used it to take a jab at Hillary Clinton. And Stacey Dash used it to try to convert LGBTQ people to the Republican party.
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Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 12, 2016
Sunday Morning In Hell. A lone terrorist enter a sodomite temple in Orlando full of worshippers with final judgement of death.
— James David Manning (@DrJamesDManning) June 12, 2016
If the FBI declines to prosecute Hillary, remember that they interviewed this guy twice. “Nothing to see here folks!”
— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) June 12, 2016
https://twitter.com/GeneLingerfelt/status/742346069091057666
Why would anyone want to deny gays and lesbians their Constitutionally-protected 2nd Amendment rights when we know they are likely targets?
— jimgeraghty (@jimgeraghty) June 12, 2016
Sarah Palin: Speaker Ryan Proves He Is Out of Touch on Islam https://t.co/hkE7curDrf
— Sarah Palin (@SarahPalinUSA) June 13, 2016
What would Jesus say about the #OrlandoShooting?
He DID say: "I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." Lk13:5
— Westboro Baptist (@WBCSaysRepent) June 12, 2016
We should stop calling him President Obama and just call him President Oblivious.
— Gov. Mike Huckabee (@GovMikeHuckabee) June 12, 2016
President Obama thinks lighting up the WH like a rainbow will distract everyone for his support of Sharia law.
— Mark Young (@MarkYoungTruth) June 13, 2016
My heart and prayers are with the LBGT community. This atrocity would not go unanswered under President Trump I promise!! #PrayingForOrlando
— Stacey Dash (@REALStaceyDash) June 12, 2016
Related: Can The Anti-Gay Right Ever Acknowledge The Human Toll Of Homophobia?
Masc Pride
Looking at gay sites and forums, lots of gay men are also using this tragedy as a free pass to be very vocal with their Islamophobia. It seems all sides are using Orlando as a free pass to hate people. #LoveWins?
AxelDC
Donald Trump was born in the same US city as the murderer. This was homegrown American homophobia enabled by lax gun laws. The AR-15 he used was the same weapon used in Sandy Hook and San Bernardino. The weapon had been banned until 2004, and since then we’ve had half the mass murders in US history.
bryweasley
With a name like Masc Pride, it’s apparent you have some hatred yourself. ?
olat760
This article is really very unfair. I may not agree with these pundits, but I’ve gotten a ton of emails from Democrats about gun control today. It’s not just one side politicizing this tragedy.
Mack
@olat760: But killings like this IS A REASON TO BAN GUNS. How many people do you think he could have taken down with a just pistol? Or a knife? Or even a box cutter? When you’re able to buy a gun that is made for multiple shots at one time, it’s made for killing people. You’re not going to use that gun to kill a deer.
davenbill
@AxelDC: BUT we’re still having mass murders and half of any # is still too many. THANK YOU NRA for your continuing demands to facilitate the gunning down of innocent people; do us all a favor and turn the gun around and pull the trigger–it your constitutional RIGHT and duty.
yaletownman
The real cause of all this is much deeper than we want to admit. Whether the hatred is coming from Islamic religious extremists, Christian fundamentalists, right wing politicians or LGBTQs who laying blame on all of Islam the root of the problem is the same. The human ego tends to find its self worth by looking down on others. I suspect that the killer had one of two, maybe a combo of both working in his head. One is that as a person of middle,eastern origins he found himself born into a country that saw he and his kind as evil and bad. This lack of acceptance that surrounded him probably led him to seek his religious roots and the anger and hurt led him to the most extremist of his religion. There he could find acceptance as well as a philosophy that used the egos oldest trick in the book to elevate his self worth a God that teaches anything unlike him are less than, Finally a God who teaches him that it is he that is at the top of the food chain. To further cement himself he becomes a hero to this group and his new found God. I suspect all this grandiosity also had the support of a mental illness too. The other reason is buried homosexual tendencies kept so because of cultural and religious forces. Self hatred can only be hidden so long before it needs an outlet and projecting it onto people we perceive as,separate,than us is also a way the mind sometimes seeks relief. If,the self,hatred is intense enough w may even try to destroy that disassociated part of ourselves by killing it others. The big problem is that the hatred we feel ‘out there’ is a universal problem that all carry to various degrees. That’s why the world has gotten so bad because collectively we are sharing in this problem.
NateOcean
“You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy…” than the Twitter commenters above.
zipperzone
As a Canadian, viewing this from afar, I fear that this most horrific incident will fuel copy-cat lunatics to repeat the carnage. There is no down side for them. They know they will probably be killed too. But that does not deter them as they think that dying and going to whichever God they believe in is a wonderful thing.
Some may call e a pessimist but I think I am just being realistic. This is not going to stop – ever. The dye has been cast and unfortunately there is no turning back. Tighter gun control will not do it. It may make it more difficult for the wacos
to get the guns, but they will find a way. I can’t think of one thing that could possibly reverse this trend short of a police state and even then it is doubtful.
May God help us all…..
imperator
Well, let’s be 100% honest about this– liberals and leftists and Democrats will try to advance their/our “agendas” in the aftermath of this, too.
The difference, of course, is that our “agenda” items will include things like “snuff out fucking homophobic bullshit once and for all” and “make it harder for dangerous, stupid assholes to acquire ‘tools’ designed specifically and purpose-built to facilitate convenient, rapid murder at a safe and cowardly distance (guns, that is).” While their “agenda” will include shit like “pit the fags against the Muslims to weaken each so we can further fuck over both,” and “sell more sexy, sexy guns.”
Even at the most cynical or opportunistic moment, “advancing an agenda” is not, in and of itself, a bad thing– it’s just that some awful fucking people’s agendas are vile, divisive, power-and-profits-over-people shit.
Hermes
@Masc Pride: I have struggled with this very complex issue for a long time – but you seem to reduce it instantly to a sound byte. Fascinating. As someone who has friends who he loves who are Muslim and not bigots – and who had a tremendous crush on a gay Muslim boi at one time for quite a while – I do not find this an easy thing – because like it or not, it is also true that most religiously motivated murders and so forth are and have for some time been a product of radical Islam. I oppose fundamentalism, all fundamentalism – openly and strongly – close to all religiously motivated violence comes from some form of fundamentalism, but I am far too honest to suggest that the bulk of it, these days, isn’t from radical Islam. We need to separate the two — there needs to be a repudiation of such activity by Muslims who wish to receive respect in the modern world, otherwise they certainly deserve no more respect than radical Right Wing Christians (their only brethren among the modern Church) receive.
Stilinski26
@Masc Pride: Irony is strong there
Stilinski26
not only the Republicans bigots! Turkish Newspaper headline about this attack was “50 perverts killed in a Gay bar.
JamJewel
@JamJewel: I would certainly appreciate knowing why my comments over the past week were never posted and of what rule(s) I violated.
Imperialist
It may be time to realize Islam means us no good. If this had been done by a Catholic/Christian the hatred you’d be spewing would be nonstop. They hate us, maybe not each indivual Muslim, but as a group they certainly hate us. You seem to have no problem admitting this about Republicans.
Masc Pride
@Hermes: Parts of your post make you seem like the people that claim they can’t be r cist because they have black friends or had sex with a black person. As far as repudiation goes, CAIR did just that in a press conference that aired on CNN and MSNBC yesterday. It’s not their fault you didn’t catch it. The question is, will it ever be enough for some people? The gay community could also stand to repudiate Islamophobia.
He BGB
The AK rifles are made to kill PEOPLE. Hello?
He BGB
I love the photos they chose above. They all look like they’re taking a hearty dump.
Donald
@Mack: You can ban guns, all the guns you want. The big problem is that the criminals will ALWAYS have them. The idea that banning guns will fix this is as sad as that things like this happen. Tragedy like this lays at the feet of society. Not the gun. I agree something needs to stop this senseless slaughter of innocents.
GC1985
@Donald: Nobody is banning all guns. Just assault rifles or heavily restricting their use. And the blame falls both on the gun and the gun freak culture we live in.
@imperator: I was about to write up a big dispute lol… But you are right on target. The left wing agenda is about equality, truly attacking the roots of terrorism and improving society.
The right wing conservatives, including Trump himself, are using us as political pawns to promote fear. Some gays on this site are happy with being the b*tch or the right wing and Trump especially. Republicans do absolutely nothing to promote safety. 9/11 happened under their watch. Trump has no real ideas.
Conservatives in this country view us like dirt and they will treat us like sh*t in order to sell fear. They won’t improve security, but rather disintegrate the situation further.
So kudos for that post imperator.
GC1985
@Imperialist: I hate this disgusting misrepresentation. For one people are having outrage over what happened. Stop espousing that right wing lie that we are powdering it over.
Some people here are simply conservative mouthpieces and they repeat the lies they are told.
The right wing in the US is stomping on the graves of the victims in this tragedy. Why should you repeat their pitiful lies about guns and people only blaming Christians? Lies, lies and MORE pathetic LIES!
Bob LaBlah
To sit back and listen to a sorry ass apologist who have no idea what living under a legal system called sharia is like shows just how disconnected many gays (ethnicity be damned) are to reality.
A sick, misguided religion has invaded America and it needs to be repulsed. Like it or not America is the place where all of these degenerates want to run to claiming persecution in their own lands but as soon as they settle they want to continue on with “their” way of life. You can’t have it both ways. And there lies the problem.
BriBri
Radical Mudslimes are the problem, not normal every day Muslims. Most of us probably have gay muslim friends. Banning guns isn’t the answer, it’s just the typical American knee jerk reaction.
stadacona
Hoping for a President Trump. Obama is a disgrace.
Brian
Trump will protect the country.
OzJosh
@Donald: The statistics speak for themselves. The US experiences 10.54 gun deaths per 100,000 every year. That’s significantly more than ten times the number in any comparable western democracy (UK: 0.23; Denmark: 1.28; Germany: 1.01, NZ: 1.07, Australia: 0.93). Australia banned all heavy assault weapons after the Port Arthur Massacre in 1996; there has not been a single mass shooting with such a weapon since then. Banning the guns actually works. It’s been proven. Anyone who tries to pretend otherwise has a clear pro-gun agenda. The sooner the US wakes up to this the better. In the wake of Orlando, it would be great to see LGBTI communities leading the fight against the lunatic gun lobbies and demanding gun control. The life you save may be your own.
Alistair Wiseman
@Mack:
We do not have a gun problem in America, we have an Islam problem. Specifically, a radical, extremist Islamic problem.
There are more guns in America than there are men, women and children. President Obama has been our greatest gun salesman as law abiding citizens are afraid that they will no longer be able to exercise their Second Admendment Constitutional right.
“How many people do you think he could have taken down with just a pistol?”
In the three hour period he was in the night club?
Answer: All of them.
GC1985
@Alistair Wiseman: Nope. We have a gun problem. The majority of mass shootings were not committed by muslims in this country. It is an entirely a gun problem.
Hillary is the only one that can lead this nation. She is tough on gun control. Public opinion will sway big time towards her because of her sensible policy.
@Bob LaBlah: Like the thousands of Indonesians who live here? Or the tens of thousands of Somalis who operate hundreds of small businesses? Just put them in concentration c@mps?
Trump is a disgrace and would mean the death of this nation. He is a Manchurian candidate.
gayhope1990
In Europe we can see the strong homophobia in Muslim community after all every lgbt pride don’t want to take the risk.We lgbt understand the leftists and the like or liberals threaten us.Only right parties protect us in Europe.The Tory gave us same sex marriage the Leftist of NUS want to ban gay white men of the lgbt groups.So get real the left see us just like a bunch of votes.They hate us like the fundies but they’re more hypocritical.
gayhope1990
Lgbt pride don’t go to Muslim boroughhood because they know their hatred is strong.we are just less naive in Europe
Bob LaBlah
@Alistair Wiseman:“How many people do you think he could have taken down with just a pistol?”
In the three hour period he was in the night club?
Answer: All of them.
Don’t be so sure it would have taken three hours to kill more people with a pistol. You guys aren’t around guns very much, are you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HPcAvIbNsk
MediaGuy
@OzJosh: Hey Einstein, when you control for race you find that the statistics for the US is the same for all other western nations. Bl ack murders and gun violence skews the numbers in the US. Those other fabulous western democracies do not have the bl ack subculture of violence America has. OMG, control for ra ce, what a horrible ra cist I must be. Well if you want the real picture, instead of the fake dramatic numbers you presented above (which is intended to make America look like a bunch of gun toting right wing hillbillies and make this tragedy about something than what it is really about). It is anti-intellectual and anti-science to consider your numbers real. You may want to look at the fake numbers to promote your agenda of division and intolerance, I get that, I even expect that from the Hi llary supporting extremist demo crats. You put your fake numbers out there to promote your bul lshit version of things. Until somebody calls you on your it. The problem in this case isn’t guns, it’s radical Isl amic hatred of gays. Deal with it. They have come for us. You need a gun, so go shopping now girl. Try Groupon. And they don’t sell guns on Rodeo Drive either Mary. We know what happened in orlando so stop your fake shilling and diversion. Mus lims kill gays.
Alistair Wiseman
Interesting clip, that fully automatic gun with a high capacity clip is completely illegal and has been for civilians since 1986.
What the Islamic trash used yesterday was a legal, semi-automatic rifle. One squeeze on the trigger, only one bullet.
Machine gun-like automatic rifles have been illegal in America since a federal ban was imposed in 1986.
Bob LaBlah
@Alistair Wiseman: “Interesting clip, that fully automatic gun with a high capacity clip is completely illegal and has been for civilians since 1986.”
Laws are like padlocks on a door. They only deter innocent, law abiding people. What the hell anyone needs a one hundred round clip for other than target shooting is beyond me. I have no problem with someone going out shooting cans but too many nut cases who grew up on violence filled video games and have become dangerous little boys with guns are running around these days. Imagine for a second someone like the Pulse shooter, working as a security guard and largely unnoticed by a shopping food court mall crowd decides to go berserk. Now imagine him with a clip for his legally licensed pistol, which he is allowed to carry to perform the functions of his job, inserted in it with two more to back that one up.
Scary, huh? It is time to put an end to the religious freedoms these people are enjoying as they call for death to this group, death to that one, while on U.S. soil. Just as you WILL be arrested if you yell fire in a crowded theatre so should those who advocate death to groups they don’t happen to like.
Clark
And the lunatics on the left trot out their standard rhetoric too – namely “blaming ” the same old same olds and attempting to further their looney tune agenda by limiting freedoms and their politics of separation and classification of groups.
Neither side should be politicizing anything, rather there should be a unified message of launching a worldwide attack on ISIS and anyone who wants us, that’s US- anyone in the west, straight, gay, Christian, pagan, any ‘infidel’ dead.
I was humorous today to hear the Queen Of Corruption Old Hillary herself launching a screeching rant against “someone that had been under FBI investigation….ha ha ha. Can you say pot/kettle?
Until everyone stops trying to put themselves above others and shows real determination to defeat these radicals -again, they don’t care anything about who or what you are, as long as you’re just dead- we’ll be reliving these horrific moments over and over. Reacting instead of taking the fight to them and putting an end to their rot and destruction.
This goes for your uber-biased “reporting” on this silly site too.
GC1985
It’s self hating right wing gay jerk off fest on here… DEBUNKING TIME.
First off, semi automatic weapons need to be heavily restricted too or even banned. There is no reason for them to be allowed for civilians.
@Clark: No need to politicize anything, yet you’er busy doing that with your ridiculous, baseless rant about Hillary and “the lunatics on the left”. You are too braindead in your support of the right wing.
Queen of Corruption? IS that why Politifact ranks her as the most honest candidate running today? Even more honest than Bernie Sanders? She isn’t under any investigation. If you want someone under a current investiation, you can look at Donald Trump. Hillary is not going to get indicted and committed no wrong doing. That’s tired stale rhetoric used by a desperate fool.
Nothing you have said actually gives new ideas on how to defeat radicals. And what is your solution, genius? Or are you just going on some stupid ignorant tirade about Hillary?
GC1985
@Bob LaBlah: Continue posting stupid videos that don’t prove your point. Automatic rifles are far more deadly.
GC1985
This speech is from 1968, but essentially destroys the entire argument of those on the political right…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhANTymDIYk
Clark
@GC1985: I really wouldn’t call having the destination of being the first and only candidate under Federal Investigation “baseless” perhaps your complete denial is the reason I use the words lunatic left, yes? If you really need a complete list of Clinton scandals I’d be more th an happy to provide them…though it would be a rather lengthy post.
Just because your media chooses not to report on their little propped up but very flawed candidate, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.
It is and it’s real.
I’m in no position to offer “my solution” but if I were, it would most certainly be the complete and utter destruction of Strongholds, the immediate confiscation of any known funds, the destruction of arms trafficking, and I most certainly would not be handing billions of dollars to a state that openingly and blatantly sponsors terrorism, like, oh, let’s just hypothesize, Iran- and lie to the American people about underhanded anti-American “deals”.
You can talk all day there GC but you’ll always be wrong.
Alistair Wiseman
@Clark:
There is a reason Hillary Clinton is the only First Lady to be both subpoenaed and fingerprinted by the FBI in separate incidents.
Currently, you are correct, Hillary is the first U.S. presidential candidate to ever be under FBI investigation.
Considering her crooked ways, perhaps she will be the first woman president to be impeached.
Just like her husband. 🙂
ricardo1
@gayhope1990: People don’t believe me when I say gays are being raped and killed by refugees in Europe. If Muslim immigration to Europe continues, expect to have gays imprisoned and executed under sharia law.
ricardo1
@Imperialist: Muslims literally murder gays for nothing other than their sexuality. It is sickening and cannot be ignored.
CelticBiker
Soundbytes, soundbytes …
that’s all we ever hear from Trump. He has no coherent policies, no real convictions that stretch beyond the borders of the United States.
I would love to know if he would have stopped Mohammed Ali at the border and told him he was no longer welcome in his home country after converting to Islam!
If people really think the kudos and respect for the US is going to improve after Obama leaves and he occupies the Oval Room, he is sorely mistaken. He has already trodden on enough toes and put enough noses out of joint to guarantee him a lifetime of reproach and hatred.
And I bet you he’s secretly reckoning on clamping down on allowing HIV-infectees to enter the country too, he just hasn’t mentioned it yet.
You see, we in the UK have seen all this before and recognize the pattern. Ever heard of Nigel Farage and his party, UKIP? If not, google the man and see what they stand for.
Alistair Wiseman
@CelticBiker:
Muhammad Ali was an American citizen with an American passport, you nitwit.
MyDadPulledOut
For those of you who only get your news from trashy porn blogs such as queerty, Trump’s speech today basically affirmed the fact that he is NOT a homophobe, and supports gay rights against those who would take them away.
This must really have pi55ed off the idiot writers here…hence the moronic title of this blog, since it’s clearly not news.
MyDadPulledOut
All Trump REALLY said is that he wants a temporary pause on immigration from countries WHO HATE HATE GAYS.
Sounds good to me.
GC1985
@Clark: As suspected you have nothing. You have nothing, but the same dumb talking points copied verbatim from Fox News. There is no active investigation and in fact the FBI has said she is not under investigation. Nor has the Department of Justice.
You have no real ideas and you are pure rhetoric. Repeat the lies all you want. The right wing has never had anything on Hillary. And all the shams of investigations and manufactured scandals have led to nothing. The hatred of our next President Hillary Clinton is mesmerizing.
@MyDadPulledOut: His tweets shows that he treats people like political pawns and capital. Nothing more. His speech was nothing more than political opportunism and full of lies. Of course you believe the myth that he isn’t a homophobe. Keep believing the lies!
By the way, Trump has pissed off a lot more people… Including Fortune magazine, which is a conservative leaning source. He is an insensitive bigot that needs to kwep his mouth shut.
GC1985
@Alistair Wiseman: She won’t be impeached. You have nothing.
News flash people… republicans don’t give a sh*t about you. Trump doesn’t care about you. They view this as an opportunity. It has backfired big time. I expect Hillary to jump back to a double digit lead over Trump.
30 years of attacking Hillary and you still don’t have anything.
By the way, the Iran deal isn’t antiAmerican and has more to do with other countries. Iran has a reform minded young population that is just waiting for the old ayatollahs to all peel over.
o.codone
Looks like a lot of gays are switching over to voting for Trump. I’m sorry to say I told you so about Hillary bringing in tons of military age militants who hate gays and that these guys will show up at pride and harass us and even kill us, but I told you so. Let’s learn a lesson from this. Muslims kill gays. Hillary will bring them in by the boatload. Why the fu ck do gays want these killers here? We DON”T. And any idiot who votes for Hillary is hurting the gay community. Stop the mindless democrat allegiance girls. Don’t vote for that cu nt.
o.codone
It’s time for Giancarlo GC^ above to get the fuck off of Queerty once and for all. You monopolize everything. You never shut up, you rant and rave and name call. EVERYBODY IS SICK AND TIRED OF YOU BITCH. Go away.
Alistair Wiseman
@GC1985:
“There is no active investigation and in fact the FBI has said she is not under investigation.”
ENOUGH. OF. YOUR. CONSTANT. LIES.
From the left-wing Salon:
http://www.salon.com/2016/06/10/fbi_criminal_investigation_emails_clinton_approved_cia_drone_assassinations_with_her_cellphone_report_says/
GC1985
@o.codone: Bullshit! Before probably 90% of gay people were voting democrat, after Trumps tweets and stupidity it is closer to 95%. Look oxy man you have used too many drugs they have warped your little mind into being delusional. Gay people hate trump because he would start launching wars and creating more refugees. They see through the bullshit.
You are one paranoid stupid thing.
@o.codone: I will keep posting and attacking insanity when I see it. Trump sees you nothing more than as an opportunity. Man, after this he will slump big time in the polls.
@Alistair Wiseman: You are the one who is lying your ass off. That source doesn’t even verify anything you have said. There was no classified material and she did no different than prior Secretary of States, including Colin Powell, who used their personal emails. In addition, GOP Congressmen on various committees (such as defense) also use personal emails. Nothing she sent was classified ergo she didn’t break any law. But keep grasping at the straws. Your double standards are obvious.
GC1985
oxy druggyman… Nobody wants you or other right wing delusional fools on here anymore. Your rhetoric is poison. And you actually have convinced yourself gay people are switching over to Trump. You are even more stupid than I thought. Gay people are in an uproar about Trump basically saying he sees us as a political opportunity. Get some dignity please!
90% of gays are supporting Democrats in this election… Now it will be even higher!
GC1985
No smart gay person would ever vote for that lunatic asshole Trump. And after this week you can see why. He sees us as his pawn. I’m not going to be used by that moron.
MyDadPulledOut
@GC1985: Wow, you fools just don’t get it, and neither do the ‘establishment’ right wing republicans. Ironic huh? You are literally on the same side as sociopath and former presidential candidate Mitt Romney.
…and what is it? The more the Republican religious crazies cry and stomp their, and the more that liberals and democrats make stuff about Trump, THE MORE POPULAR HE WILL BECOME.
People aren’t quite as stupid as they may seem, When CNN blatantly lies in its headlines about Trump’s Speech on the Orlando Murders, When Queery tries desperately to link Trump to people like Sarah Palin, people realize that they are free to go listen to Trump’s speech in its entirety on youtube! And when they do, they will quickly realize you’re delusional at best and liars at worst, and YOU WILL LOSE ALL CREDIBILITY,
Then come election day, you will wonder what happened. On every single issue, Trump has been proven right. His “racism” against the Judge seeing his case, turns out that bitch has links to extremist Latino groups such as LaRaza and has given them donations. So that was also a lie. Bye Felicia!
MyDadPulledOut
this passage should read:
…and what is it? The more the Republican religious crazies cry and stomp their feet, and the more that liberals and democrats make stuff up about Trump, THE MORE POPULAR HE WILL BECOME.
MyDadPulledOut
@GC1985: You’re the “lunatic asshole” you can’t even express yourself without profanity. You are literally an embarrassment to the gay community. Get off the disability, find a job.
MyDadPulledOut
@o.codone: word, that girl needs help. I don’t understand where all the disability money he rakes in goes to. It’s obviously not going to any therapists. He must be wasting it on that Homeopathy crap, who knows…
GC1985
@MyDadPulledOut: Come election day when Trump gets shellacked, I will pass you the tissue box. You are a lazy bozo who doesn’t even have a real argument. More popular lmao… you are just completely delusional. Not only was Trump wrong about that Judge (keep peddling the lies), he is wrong too. You like a compulsive liar because you are one yourself.
When Trump gets crushed, be sure to wipe away the tears.
The more popular he will become lmao… How rich. The Democrats don’t have to do anything, when bullshit flows from his mouth. They even use his own quotes against him.
GC1985
@MyDadPulledOut: I actually work for a living. Your username is fitting. It is too bad proper birth control wasn’t used. Nobody likes an accident.
Especially a delusional lying accident.
BTW to be popular ones need to improving their ranking in polls. He is so unpopular he actually makes traditionally Republican States competitive lmao. He is going to lose in a landslide.
GC1985
@MyDadPulledOut: You are so pathetically delusional. Trump is so unpopular he is actually helping the other party. Lmao! Backfire!
dwes09
@Hermes: There has been consistent and ongoing repudiation of events like this by Muslims since 9/11. There was outrage expressed by Muslim communities in Orlando and across the country within hours of the news of this event. You need to separate your desired imaginary scenario from reality.
BUT, it is glossed over by the conventional media, and always deemed “not enough” by the right. And consider for a moment: when a Christian terrorist acts, NOBODY ever questions the nature of Christianity or the extent to which all Christians apologize and to what extent they do so. Nobody ever expects an official distancing by Christianity as a whole from the acts of Christian terrorists or hate groups. And consider as well, when a gay person commits a crime or an act of violence (think Jeffrey Dahmer, Leopold & Loeb, Sonny Wortzik, and more) only the WORST elements of the right and among Christians indicts all gay people for it.
dwes09
@Imperialist: “It may be time to realize Islam means us no good. If this had been done by a Catholic/Christian the hatred you’d be spewing would be nonstop. They hate us, maybe not each indivual Muslim, but as a group they certainly hate us. You seem to have no problem admitting this about Republicans.”
First of all, we criticize republicans based on actual facts regarding their goals and policies. Had this act been done by a Christian he would quickly have been characterized by a the media and people like you as “a lone wolf”, a sufferer of mental illness, and in no way motivated by real Christianity. Even though information regarding the Orlando murderer is surfacing the shows how complicated his motives were (in fact he was mentally ill, quite possibly deep in the closet, and filled with rage for any number of reasons), the race is on to indelibly characterize him as a “home grown Muslim terrorist”.
It is time, not to buy into your ignorance and hate driven conclusion, but to keep ourselves rooted in reality. If your statement that “Islam means us no good” were true, the 1.6 billion Muslims on the world would easily have overrun us already.
dwes09
@Donald: “You can ban guns, all the guns you want. The big problem is that the criminals will ALWAYS have them. The idea that banning guns will fix this is as sad as that things like this happen. Tragedy like this lays at the feet of society. Not the gun. I agree something needs to stop this senseless slaughter of innocents.”
Actually, you can base your opinions on myth as you do, or you can base them on fact and statistic. Actual real history and statistics (sciency, scholaerly stuff) shows that IN FACT banning guns or certain types of guns reduces gun violence, accidental gun deaths, the number of successful suicide attempts and gun crime. Actual facts show this, nothing supports your mythic beliefs.
dwes09
@Alistair Wiseman: During most of that three hour period he was holed up in a bathroom with only 30 individuals apparently, but folks like you don’t like facts or reality interfering with their “beliefs”, do they? I question why folks like you even post here. Interesting how you share the name of a heterosexual, self absorbed, rather unintelligent right wing blogger who often rails about how no one understands how wonderful insights.
dwes09
@Alistair Wiseman: “Muhammad Ali was an American citizen with an American passport, you nitwit.”
As was Omar Mateen you nitwit! Born in Flushing NY, Raised in Westbury (affluent long island town) before the family moved to Florida. And as facts come out, it is clear that he and his motives were complex; his ties to radical jihadists mostly in his mind, and him quite possibly motivated by internalized homophobia (like you!). But as usual, reality is of little use to you.
dwes09
@GC1985: “By the way, the Iran deal isn’t antiAmerican and has more to do with other countries. Iran has a reform minded young population that is just waiting for the old ayatollahs to all peel over.”
Think you mean keel over.
But yes, the younger generation of Iranians LOVE the US, as do a lot of the older generation in this traditionally well educated, cultured and middle class country. A gay Jewish friend of mine was there last year and was accepted with open arms everywhere, visited parents of gay Iranian friends, had a great time and was totally unimpeded. And he is pretty obviously gay.
The right will do all they can to turn the younger generation of Iranians against us, as they need scapegoats to support their use of fear as a manipulation tool.
dwes09
@o.codone: “Looks like a lot of gays are switching over to voting for Trump. I’m sorry to say I told you so about Hillary bringing in tons of military age militants who hate gays and that these guys will show up at pride and harass us and even kill us, but I told you so.”
Please provide some factual support to your laughable assertion about gays switching over to trump. Keep in mind that a few of your fellow opiate addled closet cases getting hard over a President Trump wet dream is anecdotal, not empirical.
And while you are at it, let’s also see support for the notion that Hillary is “bringing in tons of militants”. You are aware, are you not, that the Orlando shooter was born in Flushing and spent early childhood in Westbury? It can be argued that folks like you and Alistair, and Brian and a few others are “right wing militants who hate gays”, as you always push an agenda that will erode marriage equality and other gains we have made thanks to progressive politicians as well as criticize anything that does not support heteronormative behavior.
Alistair Wiseman
@dwes09:
You might want to look at the post I was responding to before you try and jump down my throat. It had nothing to do with the Muslim Democrat murderer.
dwes09
@MyDadPulledOut: “When Queery tries desperately to link Trump to people like Sarah Palin”
Not too swift are you? When Trump invites her to introduce him at several speaking events (where she gave him the great nickname of “golden wrecking ball” in the midst of a barely coherent rant), it does not require any desperation at all to “link” the two of them. People are free to watch THAT speech in its entirety too. Incredibly amusing, as are Trumps “speeches”. Their appeal is to those entirely lacking in critical thought skills which is very arguably a minority.
By the way there is no specific group called “La Raza”. The National council of La Raza is about as much an extremist group as the Anti Defamation League, or the NAACP (which you actually may consider extremist groups). The phrase la raza refers to many things, most having to do with the greater community of people who trace their origins to Mexico, regardless of race.
dwes09
@Alistair Wiseman: “You might want to look at the post I was responding to before you try and jump down my throat. It had nothing to do with the Muslim Democrat murderer.”
Your politics speak for themselves. As does your inability to analyse events. As does your simplistic nature.
Regarding “Muslim Democrat murderer”; http://www.snopes.com/orlando-shooter-was-democrat/
The world is seldom as black and white, seldom as myth based as you right wing folks wish it were.
Alistair Wiseman
@dwes09:
“It can be argued that folks like you and Alistair, and Brian and a few others are “right wing militants who hate gays”, as you push an agenda that will erode marriage equality….”
First of all, I have never had post inwhich I spoke about “marriage equality”.
Second, why do you consider me militant? Because I’m not an automaton that goes along with the groupthink here on Queerty? I thought we were a community that celebrated diversity! Oh, that’s right – your version of diversity has to do with skin color, genitalia, sexual orientation, etc. My version (actually a conservatives version) is the diversity of thought. The only kind of diversity that is significant.
Third, so I’m “right-wing militant who hates gays”? I don’t think so. I have many gays in my life from my boyfriend to many gay friends. Just because I’m not a leftist and have a different point of view does not mean I am a militant who hates gays. I hate leftism, not gays.
Alistair Wiseman
@Alistair Wiseman:
Again, you didn’t address the post and moved on to another topic. The Ali post had nothing to do with Mateen. I point that out and you jump to another topic.
Apparently, you do not understand facts. As of early Sunday morning, was Omar Mateen, voter id #114484524, a registered Democrat?
Yes, he was. Your little snopes article only muudys the water a bit to say he could be any political party in 2016. The fact remains, he was a registered Democrat at the time of his death.
GC1985
@dwes09: I dated a Persian guy before… he’s a doctor now after finished UCLA Med School. He’s super liberal. Very very liberal.
Alistain is still a stain on this website.
The guy is not a registered democrat anymore.
Bob LaBlah
@GC1985: “I dated a Persian guy before… he’s a doctor now after finished UCLA Med School. He’s super liberal. Very very liberal.”
Was that the one who dropped you once he found out you were into scat?