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Dan Choi Quotes John McCain on DADT Repeal: ‘OMG’

Guess who’s well enough to call into a major cable news network to make grand pronouncements about what the semi-repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell means? You know this guy’s soundbites are going to be inserted into some college textbook in a pullquote that looks like this:

It’s a historic day. It’s something that we’ve all expected. We know that when you’r eon the right side of justice and history, you don’t ever go backwards.

But let’s not give Dan all the attention. Here’s Justin Elzie, the first Marine discharged under DADT:

Oh HAY GURL! It’s Lt. Col. Victor Fehrenbach, ragging on McCandyCain.

By:           Max Simon
On:           Dec 19, 2010
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  • 35 Comments
    • Steve
      Steve

      What the hell does this place have agaisnt Choi? Sure, some of his protests have been ridiculous, but he’s been one of the few people out there consistently putting a human face to the terrors of DADT and the repeal effort, which is a hell of a lot more than anyone at Queerty can say.

      Dec 19, 2010 at 12:34 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • kayla
      kayla

      McCain is simply enveloped in bitterness. I just don’t think he’ll ever get over being rejected by the American people, not once but twice, for the presidency. After all, he’s a war hero with the scars to prove it. He must feel that he deserved the ultimate political prize. The pain of losing in the primaries to a draft dodger, the first time around must have hurt. But then, the second time around after throwing all his principles and integrity out the window, he still loses, and to a one term senator who also never served, Oh the humanity! All those years in Hanoi Hilton….. He still can’t believe that America rejected him for Obama. He’s decided to dig a trench of anger and hate and set up house…so be it!!

      Dec 19, 2010 at 12:45 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Aaron
      Aaron

      It’s @Steve: It’s Queerty, the new Perez Hilton (now that Perez doesn’t do snark). Their cunty-ness is what makes it fun to read.

      Dec 19, 2010 at 12:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kev C
      Kev C

      @Aaron: “consistently putting a human face to the terrors of DADT”

      His face isn’t *that* terrible.

      Dec 19, 2010 at 1:15 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • gregger
      gregger

      I’m really shocked that Faux News actually handled this in a very news-worthy manner. CNN’s coverage was underwhelming. Thank you Lt Col Fehrenbach for being a great and eloquent spokesman and damn hot.

      Dec 19, 2010 at 1:15 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • jak
      jak

      First of all, McCain is hardly a war hero. He spent the war as a POW, incidentally making quite a few propaganda videos for the enemy. Listen to some of the reports from some of his fellow detainees. As for Choi, glad he’s out of the loony bin, but he needs to take it easy, or he’ll be headed right back in.

      Dec 19, 2010 at 1:30 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jordan
      Jordan

      Jak, I know you think you’re being cute and snarky, but regardless of what anyone feels about Dan Choi, calling treatment for PTSD “going to the loony bin” is just totally distasteful, tacky, and out of line. Show the slightest modicum of respect — would you talk about any other wounded soldier that way, all things being equal?

      Dec 19, 2010 at 1:53 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • PatrickB
      PatrickB

      CNN’s coverage is a hot mess!
      “Since you’re pimping your book…”

      really?!?!

      Dec 19, 2010 at 2:51 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • kayla
      kayla

      @PatrickB: I agree that was rather rude. Though, I don’t think it was intentional!

      Dec 19, 2010 at 2:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ollie
      Ollie

      @Steve: Damn Right. Leave Choi alone!!!

      Dec 19, 2010 at 3:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bubba in TX
      Bubba in TX

      I had to turn off the CNN interview–between the “pimping your book” comment, the “I’m sorry, I couldn’t hear your answer so I don’t have a follow-up question” confession and the “better question” reboot, I was really getting embarrassed for the interviewer. YIKES!

      Dec 19, 2010 at 3:33 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • 15 Minutes of Fame are UP
      15 Minutes of Fame are UP

      Hands off Saint Choi!

      That’s what everyone with a nervous breakdown does, they call in on TV shows.

      He is NOT a self-centered attention whore in case you still have any doubts.

      Dec 19, 2010 at 4:58 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jeffree
      Jeffree

      @15 Minutes of Fame:
      Not very clever, AndrewW.
      Give it a rest.
      – — – — —
      McCain will be spending the rest of his term playing “Told ya so” if there’s any slight hiccup in the implementation of the DADT repeal. I bet Cindy has already put maskingtape on him to keep him from whining.

      Dec 19, 2010 at 5:40 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Activator
      Activator

      Haha – GREAT NEWS! Bilerico finally blocked AndrewW from commenting. He questioned Choi’s motives and they BLOCKED him.

      http://www.bilerico.com/2010/12/comment_of_the_week_andreww.php

      Is Queerty next? I want him blocked here, too. We shouldn’t let people express their opinions on the internet, that would ruin everything.

      Dec 19, 2010 at 8:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • justin
      justin

      @Activator: I read the Bilerico piece and they said Dan Choi suffered from “mental illness.” Who knew?

      Dec 19, 2010 at 9:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • KitKat
      KitKat

      Choi is a self-promoter. Wait, a crazy self-promoter… and my hero. I’m glad he passed DADT repeal and i hope he gives us marriage equality next.

      Dec 19, 2010 at 11:12 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jeffree
      Jeffree

      Dan Choi reportedly suffers from Post-Traumatic Syndrome (PTSD). You can read up on it elsewhere. It’s not a laughing matter.

      AndrewW’s being blocked from websites due to difficulty adhering to the sites’ TOS is not a new thing for him.

      Dec 19, 2010 at 11:39 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jeffree
      Jeffree

      “Post Traumatic Stress Disorder” is what I should have typed.
      Oops.

      Dec 20, 2010 at 12:09 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • reason
      reason

      Choi is suffering from out of control narcissism.

      Dec 20, 2010 at 12:46 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Obama DID say DADT would happen on his watch... (John From England)
      Obama DID say DADT would happen on his watch... (John From England)

      @reason:

      Thank you. The crap I was reading in the comments here.

      Though narcissism is a form of madness to be fair but just one that we let pass because they become ‘tv personalities, movie stars, politicians, activists, models, singers, CEO, entrepreneurs etc’ and this fulfills our deep seated aspirations to be…famous.

      Anyway glad that he was in for like, what, 3 days was it in hospital? Just before the senate were going to debate and just after the senate debated. Wow, what a coincidence huh? Uncanny, truly.

      I’ve worked with people who genuinely suffer from mental illness and well, most just wouldn’t feel good about themselves to even be in public because they suffer from such low self esteem.

      Dec 20, 2010 at 7:39 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • mark
      mark

      People who are dealing with PTSD deserve our respect.

      My dad lead a squadron of 17 flyers in WWII. Only two came back from the war. He dealt with PTSD for decades.

      My father’s experience is not unlike mine, losing massive numbers of friends to HIV…..in the “war” on AIDS. We have spoken about it and learned something about PTSD from our life experiences.

      Who knows what happened to Dan Choi when he was in combat? It’s his business to tell us and only if and when he wants to.

      Meanwhile respect for his service as well as his privacy is in order. On the side of Dan’s health and well-being.

      Dec 20, 2010 at 8:18 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ~R~
      ~R~

      @Obama DID say DADT would happen on his watch… (John From England): The key word to your rant is “most”. You are right, most wouldn’t. But honestly, do you think a victory such as this would remain untouched by Choi? He’s been visually fighting for this for a long time now. You may not like him, but give the man credit: attention whore or not, he made DADT much more visible than the HRC did.
      And PTSD is no laughing matter. It is a serious illness when untreated (and veterans hospitals tend to dole out drugs as treatment which is a massive fail! where’s the counceling?) and the end result can be quite disturbing.
      He deserves to speak out for this victory because, like it or not, he did have a part in it.

      Dec 20, 2010 at 9:32 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • eagledancer
      eagledancer

      I’m trapped in Arizona (moved down here 18 months ago to be with the SigO)and the Competenetwork.com (“We ARE Gay Sports!) where I now blog is part of the office complex that houses McCain’s local office.

      The reason McCain became a POW was because of his lack of impulse control and inablilty to follow orders that led to him losing his plane in the first place.

      The thought of a man with so little impulse control being in charge of anything other than the local Starbucks is a very frightening thought…

      Dec 20, 2010 at 12:21 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DR
      DR

      What vile beings some of you are.

      When push comes to shove, I’ll take Dan Choi, willing to engage in civil disobedience, over Kathy Griffin or Joe Solomenese, both of whome were too cowardly to get their hands dirty when called to the carpet by Choi.

      Have he been too public at times? Perhaps. Has he backed himself into a corner and created an identity as “Dan Choi, gay soldier and activist”? Perhaps. But some of these comments remind me why people don’t want to be bothered doing advocacy work.

      What’s the saying? Oh, right, “let no good deed go unpunished”.

      Dec 20, 2010 at 12:43 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Hacktivism
      Hacktivism

      Choi had nothing to do with DADT repeal. The deal was made by HRC in February. It was designed to get the Military’s support in order to get some Republican votes. It got 8 votes.

      HRC doesn’t accomplish much, but they did get this done, not Choi.

      Dec 20, 2010 at 1:07 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • JusticeontheRocks
      JusticeontheRocks

      Hacktivism: Here we go with reinventing history. HRC had almost zero impact on DADT repeal. Follow their press releases on the subject – the blew with the wind.

      The person we should all thank is the DOD lawyer who convinced Sec. Gates that the Log Cabin suit was likely to overturn the policy. If he hadn’t believed that, the policy would be in place.

      Dec 20, 2010 at 2:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Sugah
      Sugah

      @15 Minutes of Fame are UP: Cunty much Andrew W?

      Dec 20, 2010 at 2:18 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ~R~
      ~R~

      @Hacktivism: Obviously, you are clueless on this subject.

      Dec 20, 2010 at 5:53 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Thom Freeheart
      Thom Freeheart

      Choi is a hero to me.

      Dec 20, 2010 at 9:19 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • 15 Minutes of Fame are UP
      15 Minutes of Fame are UP

      @JusticeontheRocks: HRC got us 8 GOP votes. Choi was never a player, just a mascot.

      Dec 20, 2010 at 9:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jennifer
      Jennifer

      Bilerico, the Trans website, said Dan Choi was “mentally ill.” I think they know more than has been released to the media.

      Dec 20, 2010 at 10:49 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @kayla: Said…


      McCain is simply enveloped in bitterness. I just don’t think he’ll ever get over being rejected by the American people, not once but twice, for the presidency. After all, he’s a war hero with the scars to prove it. ”
      _________________________

      He would have been kicked out of the academy for poor performance but his father and grandfather were admirals so his mother got them to let him stay in…he graduated at the bottom. He wouldn’t have been taken into the flight program with such poor performance but his father and Grandfather were admirals. He Crashed so many planes that he shouldn’t have been flying. (Four planes before the crash that got him captured) His arms and legs were broken becuase he didn’t pull them in when he ejected from the plane as any novice pilot would have. While in Viet-nam he broke and made propoganda films denouncing the U.S.

      I would hardly call him a hero.

      Dec 21, 2010 at 10:06 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Choi's Health
      Choi's Health

      @Jennifer: Bilerico only said that “Choi suffered from mental illness” but didn’t say much more. I don’t visit that site because it’s mostly about trans stuff.

      Pam Sapulding said Choi had a “mental breakdown” because the Senate wasn’t voting to repeal DADT and I’m not sure what that even means. As far as I know, 18,000 people had a nervous breakdown when the Senate first rejected repeal. It was very painful.

      Dec 21, 2010 at 11:34 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ProfessorVP
      ProfessorVP

      Mental breakdown is daytime tv-speak for hissy fit. Choi didn’t help put to rest that old chestnut about gays being a distraction. Well, not lesbians. Just gay men. The whole issue is pretty silly, but it’s ample fodder for Choi’s career- maybe the next Nate Berkus, or running for congress- and John McCain’s next run for president as a values candidate. Why do I think McCain is running? Because the very idea is insane. I rest my case.

      BTW, nothing has been repealed. There will be continued study vis-a-vis implementation, then certification, then a waiting period. Meantime, all hell could break loose… lawsuits,
      harrassment, murders, disruptions in the military. Which would be good reason to keep postponing.

      Second BTW… I just read this from one of the wire services… warning from top brass has gone out to service people: no public displays of affection, nothing in-your-face! (Not a warning for everybody, just for you-know-who.)

      Dec 21, 2010 at 7:55 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Montana
      Montana

      Poor McCain, he lost the election, because of his choices and now he is like a fish out of water by all his flip, flops on DADT, what a true hypocrite, he should move himeself into a old farts home. We all know that he is a member of the “Gay Old Party” GOP.

      McCain Hardball Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell

      Dec 23, 2010 at 3:36 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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