So I ended up standing in an awkward position, corkscrewing a limp dick dildo into my ass, making noises that I feared were “too gay,” and hoping that I wouldn’t look completely ridiculous in the process. Have I mentioned yet that they fucked my hair up? OMG, maybe I’m too gay afterall, but don’t fuck with a bitch’s weave! GOD!
—Devon Hunter, the porn performer, describing his first scene shooting (as “Ryan”) for the studio SeanCody.com. It might not be the most revealing or the most nuanced of pullquotes to use, but it’s the one I laughed at the hardest. It’s a pretty interesting read, if you’re into behind-the-scenes tell-alls. WHICH YOU ALL ARE. [via, possibly NSFW; image via]
Thunderpuss
Sean Cody needs to bring in some more body hair, muscle, ethnic diversity, and a larger age range. That said, it’s still on my daily web cruising routine…usually after the obligatory ManHunt “thanks for winking at my profile” emails and before local CraigsList “stop using MY pictures for YOUR profile” emails.
PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
Looks pretty well preserved for being 33! main question: how much did he make?
Adam
That was an excellent read! Fuck Sean Cody.
http://www.devonhunter.info/archives/1625/
I mean:
(Quote)Once again I was instructed to not speak in a gay manner. This in front of Fuller. It reinforced my fear of being “too gay,” and I didn’t quite close my mouth in time and said, “I get it. You don’t like gay guys.”
“No, it’s not like that!”
“It’s exactly like that. I understand. Can we just do this?” (end quote)
And
(quote)There was the constant threat of not getting paid. “If you cum too fast everyone goes home with no money.” Great, I get it. How many times do you have to say that? Fuller said, “Dude, if you fuck up my money we’re going to fight.” My gay eyebrow went up really fast. He stood down, and tried to go back into encouraging me. But it got worse every time Fuller would say, “Man, you are doing awesome!” or “Dude, think of the money.” I know he meant to help me, but everyone on the staff was getting shorter and curter with me as getting a hard-on got more difficult (and painful). I kept up fine for the first 4 hours, but going into hour 5 I started having severe issues from going numb. At hour 6 I doubted I could finish at all, and at hour 7 I was contemplating calling it all off and giving up completely. Fuller then said, “Dude, can we move this along? I wanna get to the bank before it closes.”(end quote)
Adam
@PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS:
He says the pay scale at the article. They don’t get shit really.
whatever
I could only make it through half-way down the first page. “Schindler’s List” was less depressing. :/
M
@Thunderpuss:
No, they don’t. I like the men just the way they are. Don’t like it? Go to another website. It’s a porn site, not an office.
PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
If ya like the twink type of guys who actually seem straight, check out brokestraightboys.com. Actually seems like they are negotiating with these guys to perform. And while most likely is all staged does look real. And the guys and scenes are pretty hot
ChrisP
Only faggy gays want to watch other gays. Sean Cody should ban them.
Cam
I love the website basically telling people that have a penis shaped dildo up their ass…not to act gay. Yeeeahhhh, because putting dicks into man asses is just so….hetro.
Jordan
You know, I always thought Club Jeremy Hall, Randy Blue, and Corbin Fisher had hotter vids.
scott ny'er
@Adam: but he did say SC pays the best, but they have to because of the long shoots.
Queerty irritates me more and more, like the loss of the old home page, etc. But this was a great post and illuminating.
I won’t look at pay for gay the same way nor SC. The poor bottoms. It’s terrible.
scott ny'er
Devon does look amazing for his thirties.
Adam
Sean Cody gave a statement to QueerClick and it reads like a “cover your ass PR” release. Plus, they give Devon’s real name. And there is only one reason to give Devon’s real name. They are hoping people will cause him shit.
whatever
Uh, when did 30s become geriatric? To say someone looks good for his 30s is really depressing as hell and says a lot about the person making the ‘compliment.’
PopSnap
Porn was never glamorous, whether straight or gay. Some people have to start wearing diapers when they are 50 because of obvious reasons. Amateur porn is much more satisfying than the fake crap, too.
Dave
I just don’t get the straight fetish. It makes zero sense to me. I can see being attracted to guys in porn regardless of their sexual orientation, because it’s porn, and I’m not actually going to fuck them, but to actually foster an attraction to straight guys over gay guys just seems… silly.
That said, it seems to me that most of the straight actors in gay porn are just godawful. Boring, lazy, spoiled, and absolutely uninterested in doing a decent job. So many sites feature the same five straight guys jerking off, over and over again, and occasionally demanding adulation and fanfare over the tiniest progress they make towards having gay sex, like they want a gold star and a cookie for sticking a finger up their butt. Throw in the occasional half-hearted fuck where the usually-gay bottom is treated like a prop and call it a day.
(In SeanCody’s defense, they at least *try* to make it look like their straight guys are enjoying themselves, which is better than can be said fr lots of these sites.)
Meanwhile, if you look at the straight guys on sites which aren’t straight fetish, you’ll find that there actually are some straight actors in gay porn who work very hard to do a good job and present a good product.
What does that tell us? It’s not the straight actor’s fault. It’s the producer’s fault for treating them like their shit doesn’t stink and for expecting so little from them, and it’s our fault for putting up with shitty, half-assed porn, just because our internalized homophobia makes our dicks go limp at the first sign of a sibilant ess.
M
@whatever:
I was thinking the same thing. Since when is 30 old? Comments like ‘he looks good for 30’ disturb me. I’m 20 and don’t think 30 is old.
PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
@whatever: Its not that 30’s are geriatic. Its just that if ya saw that picture and the blurb stated he was 19 I don’t think anyone would doubt it………..
M
‘Straight guy’ porn bores me. I would rather have my men be gay and passionate. It annoys me when guys tell me they are looking for a guy who is ‘straight acting’. I’m gay, deal with it..damn it!
scott ny'er
@whatever: What the hell are you talking about? Your comment can be taken so many different ways.
He doesn’t look 30s. He looks like he’s in his 20s. It’s simple. Nothing untoward intended. Maybe you should look closer at your problems with age.
scott ny'er
@PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS: Exactly!!! Sheesh.
PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
@scott ny’er: tyvm!
PopSnap
I will say this, though, especially after reading that article and seeing that one stupid MTV True Life episode: I REALLY want to meet a “gay for pay” straight guy just to see what he’s like. Because to me it’s just very bizarre that a guy would call himself straight and fuck guys, even for money. If someone offered me 10,000 to have sex with a female, then yeah, I would do it without a moment’s hesitation- but I would NOT get in a plane, fly myself out to San Diego, stay for two days, re-shoot (snort) for 7 hours a day, and fight to keep up a boner in order to do so. No way. That’s what these guys do, and it’s just gets even more bizarre the more & more you think about it.
Paulo
If any website or blog mentioned the real name of a Sean cody pornstar you bet your ass they would write a note asking for it to be removed. Yet they make a statement and give the model’s real name. Wow, Devon must have real ruffled their feathers.
Paulo
Jack has dealt with the fact that they released his name.
http://www.devonhunter.info/archives/887/
ChrisP
PopSnap,
‘Gay for pay’ is not bizarre. Disconnecting ‘yourself’ from your body is what all sex workers do. Kidding yourself that ‘gay for pay’ porn stars are really gay (or bi) is just gay wishful thinking.
Whatever! An average looking straight guy is way hotter than the best looking gay guy – so jerk off and have a good time and stop trying make sense of an instinct.
MMDD
@ChrisP: Actually, ChrisP, I think an average-looking gay guy is way hotter than the best-looking straight guy. So there!
Ephram
And I think the best-looking straight girl is way hotter than the average-looking gay guy!
MMDD
@Ephram: Well…to each his/her own.
whatever
it seems like the “str8” guys who do gay porn are total lowlives. amirite?
BillySaint
Sounds like Jack/Devon/Ryan is way too sensitive. He/you is/are an actor, at least that is what I thought. That means you do what the director says and if that means act straighter than your normal gay self is, then you do it and don’t complain.
Saying Sean Cody is homophobic is absurd. They simply like str8 acting gay guys, not nelly queens on film. I can relate. They leave me limp. Just a preference. Not to be taken personally if I think you are a big nel. I just like my porn studs to be , , , um . . . studs.
cmmm
Billy, there is difference between sexuality and behaviour. A fact that guy is straight just means that he prefers to stick his dick in a pussy. It doesn’t make him more or less attractive. There are many masculine gay guys, there are even more feminine straight ones. Being masculine doesn’t mean being straight. Like being straight won’t make you masculine.
El Brucio
@PopSnap: A lot of bisexual people aren’t precisely on a 50/50 split for sexual desire between the sexes.
I suspect that the gay-for-pay actors are gay enough to have sex with men, but prefer women whenever they have a choice and have thus decided to adopt the straight moniker under the idea that they are mostly heterosexual.
On the flipside, I once dated a guy who enjoyed sex with women, but could never see himself loving one, so he just usually told people he was gay rather than having to explain.
MMDD
@El Brucio: “I once dated a guy who enjoyed sex with women, but could never see himself loving one, so he just usually told people he was gay rather than having to explain.”
That’s such a load of crap. If he was attracted to women and having sex with them, he sure as hell wasn’t gay. Doesn’t matter whether he “loved” them or not.
But that’s a completely different situation from porn.
JJ
They’re “actors?” What an insult to people who actually pursue a career as a professional actor. They’re not actors. It sounds more like you’re feeling bruised because your fantasy about straight guys having hot gay sex was just destroyed. Welcome to the real world.
PopSnap
@ChrisP
It depends on your definition of “hot”. There really isn’t that much difference between straight and gay guys except gays take care of themselves better & have more feminine faces (usually). I’ve met some gays who could easily compete on World’s Strongest Man, and some who were 5 seconds away from being a woman.
The reason why we like straight guys & find them more attractive is because we can’t have them, the same way that some straight women go totally crazy over Edward Cullen.
El Brucio
@MMDD: You’ve probably dated guys like my friend and never knew. There are a lot of bi people who claim to be either straight or gay because of biphobia in both communities. Sadly, that doesn’t appear ready to change any time soon despite the advances for gay people in society.
But no matter what happens, I suspect there will always be a market for “straight” guy porn.
El Brucio
@JJ: They perform a role in a studio in front of a camera and get paid for it. Gay, Bi, Straight, Transgendered, they’re actors. Just because of who they are or what they do is something that you don’t approve of doesn’t change that fact. Welcome to the real world? Right back at you JJ.
HiredGoons
That is a creepy smile. Like, right before I saw your head off smile.
Cam
Weird, if a porn company goes around giving out the actual names of their performers I can’t imagine many people wanting to work for them.
Jax
@Dave:Cody Cummings Just sayin
MMDD
@El Brucio: Well, I don’t know about that. I didn’t date very much before I met my husband anyway, so maybe you’re right.
Biphobia is definitely a problem in the gay and straight communities, but ya know, I’ve had some really ugly conversations with some pretty homophobic and heterophobic bisexuals, so…I guess that river runs both ways.
But my main point was that your friend was lying about his sexuality. And as long as bisexual guys continue to lie like that, the stigma isn’t going to go away.
Dave
@MMDD: I’m not sure it’s possible to “lie” about your sexuality in any meaningful way. Your sexual identity is what you say it is, not what other people want it to be. Why? Because our sexual identity isn’t about who we have sex with. It’s about who we are attracted to, and only one person is qualified to answer that question.
We define our own sexual identities–usually but not necessarily in accordance with our attractions. Our behaviour does not define them.
A gay virgin is still gay. A straight guy who sometimes has sex with guys for whatever reason — money, boredom, curiosity — is still straight. A bisexual woman who has never had a serious same sex relationship is still bisexual.
Their sexual orientation is no more up for a vote from the peanut gallery than is a transgendered person’s gender.
You would think, what with the religious right thinking they get to tell us that we aren’t really gay all the time, that queer folks would understand this better than straight folks. Apparently, that is not the case.
MMDD
@Dave: You make some valid points, but I’m afraid I can’t fully agree with you.
“Your sexual identity is what you say it is, not what other people want it to be. Why? Because our sexual identity isn’t about who we have sex with. It’s about who we are attracted to, and only one person is qualified to answer that question.”
Sorry, but by that definition, then that means the “straight” guy who is screwing around on his wife with guys on the side is still straight because he insists on calling himself straight. You can call yourself any name in the book, but ultimately you will be known by your actions.
I agree that our sexual identity is about who we are attracted to whether we’re sexually active with that person (or gender) or not, but the problem is guys lie about sex and their sexuality ALL the time. I lied about being gay for years out of fear of being discovered. So since I defined myself to others as “not gay” (or straight) for all that time, did that make it true? Absolutely not.
“We define our own sexual identities–usually but not necessarily in accordance with our attractions. Our behaviour does not define them.”
I disagree with that. Our behavior does not NECESSARILY define them, but most of the time it is in accordance with our attractions. Seriously, how many people do you know who go around having sex with people they aren’t sexually attracted to? What’s the fun of that?
“A gay virgin is still gay. A straight guy who sometimes has sex with guys for whatever reason — money, boredom, curiosity — is still straight. A bisexual woman who has never had a serious same sex relationship is still bisexual.”
I agree with you here. I knew I was gay at age 12 but never touched a man till age 26. But going back to your point about straight guys having sex with guys for money (that’s what gay porn is full of, so that’s correct), boredom (hmmmm…not sure about that–you can do a lot of other things to pass the time when you’re bored), or curiosity (yes, that happens too)–you’re talking about three different motivating factors here, none of which is necessarily based on genuine sexual desire. I’m talking about guys who are acting out based on their sexual desires but lying about them.
“Their sexual orientation is no more up for a vote from the peanut gallery than is a transgendered person’s gender.”
It’s not a matter of voting. It’s a matter of calling someone out on a lie.
“You would think, what with the religious right thinking they get to tell us that we aren’t really gay all the time, that queer folks would understand this better than straight folks. Apparently, that is not the case.”
Oh, come on now…this is not a “religious right vs. queers” issue. You know as well as I do that men tend to bullshit and just plain ole lie about their sex lives and their sexuality all the time for a variety of reasons. By your standard, then I guess I could start identifying myself as straight, present myself as straight to others, and then expect others to take me seriously as a straight man, just because I choose to identify myself that way. You’re not talking about a black and white issue here. Sexuality and the way we define ourselves to others can be way more complex than that. There are a lot of different factors that play a role in this.
Joseph
Hey Queerty. All this sounds a bit too dramatic and fabricated. Have you all tried reaching out to Sean Cody? This guy is after all a “career” escort and you know how crazy they can get if they don’t have enough “Jons” to fill the void.
Besides, SC clearly stated his “gold star” gayness and does not look at all like they tried to cover anything up. He might also be mad SC didnt lie about his age. Just sayin.
Charles
If you don’t like it, don’t watch it. It’s very simple. It’s ot like you don’t have loads of choices. Whingers, the lot of you and I bet most of you are Australian. Does anyone know where I can find more of Owen
Blawnd
@MMDD:
“Biphobia is definitely a problem in the gay and straight communities, but ya know, I’ve had some really ugly conversations with some pretty homophobic and heterophobic bisexuals, so…I guess that river runs both ways.”
This may just be the most ridiculous thing I’ve read all day. Heterophobia doesn’t exist, hate to break it to you (I mean straight communities? really?). When was the last time a straight person lost their job because they were straight? My sentiment stands. Also, if someone who is bi spouts something “homophobic” that means they’re internalizing their oppression and is no where on the same wavelength as a straight person execrating their oppression over queer people.
MMDD
@Blawnd: You must not read a lot. You’re speaking in generalities, and they don’t always apply to individuals. Plus, I wasn’t referring to professional settings; I was referring to general settings such as forums where people tend to interact more socially than professionally. And all kinds of phobias exist, whether you choose to acknowledge them or not. My sentiment stands as well.