After that, if he wants to let it all sort out through congress or whatever, that’s up to him and we can think what we want about that.

BTW, you did know that Rupert Murdoch, owner of Faux News and the man who put the neo in neo-Nazi was a big and early supporter of Hillary Clinton. Or is it sexist to mention that.

What does socially liberal mean? It means nothing. I’m sure Obamas very personable too. Even considering things like that is the lollipop approach to politics. I hope lollipop is not too sexist a term for you.

And finally, christers are crazy but not secretive. If you’re able, read the damn article before making a fool of yourself.

Ignorance is dumb.

You are dellusional.

Obama is 1000x the leader Bush is. You just want him to be a dictator and to forget the ENTIRE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS LIKE BUSH DID.

People hated Bush because Bush ignored the Constitution, Laws and did whatever he wanted. You praise Bush and bash Obama because Obama goes back to the Democratic Process.

I see…act like Bush when it suits your agenda. GOT IT

Bush like it or not showed true leadership and got his policies passed.

If you don’t call both your Senators, don’t complain.

Over the past 60-100 years and mostly as of the past few administrations an unwise and unwaranted amount of power has been stollen by the Adminisztration which occured with Bush to criminal proportions . Indeed, much was in place for a dictatorship.

Obama’s assertion from the beginning has been that he will will return power where it belongs even though it makes him weaker. It is a belief in our system of government and trust that the founders knew as much about the dangers of power as anyone.

I cannot wait until your unemployment benefits run out and you have something better to do than troll this website all day long.

But I do know, as the article points out, that Hillary Clinton, former Goldwater supporter and long time member of the Board of Driectors of Wal-Mart (Always Low Wages) got together and dreamed up and co-sponsored the ‘faith based’ charity scam that Rove and Obama’s Minister of Pandering Joshua Dubois use to bribe pulpit pimps.

Theres more: http://www.motherjones.com/pol.....d-politics

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Obama gave you want you want with Hate Crimes…Its Congress that blew you off. You think Congress will move on DADT if you cannot get them to move on Hate Crimes?

FIND A FUCKING STRATEGY!

You all are FOOLS!

Mommas don’t let your babies out of your site when visiting Washington.

Now, stupidly, you claim she’s not a christer fundamentalist. Are you lying or are you just ignorant?

“For 15 years, Hillary Clinton has been part of a secretive religious group that seeks to bring Jesus back to Capitol Hill. Is she triangulating—or living her faith?

During a Democratic candidate forum… Hillary Clinton fielded a softball query about Bill’s infidelity: How had her faith gotten her through the Lewinsky scandal?

… Clinton explained that, of course, her “very serious” grounding in faith had helped her weather the affair. But she had also relied on the “extended faith family” that came to her aid, “people whom I knew who were literally praying for me in prayer chains, who were prayer warriors for me.

In fact, Clinton’s God talk is more complicated—and more deeply rooted—than either fans or foes would have it, a revelation not just of her determination to out-Jesus the gop, but of the powerful religious strand in her own politics. Over the past year, we’ve interviewed dozens of Clinton’s friends, mentors, and pastors about her faith, her politics, and how each shapes the other. And while media reports tend to characterize Clinton’s subtle recalibration of tone and style as part of the Democrats’ broader move to recapture the terrain of “moral values,” those who know her say there’s far more to it than that.

Through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the Fellowship. Her collaborations with right-wingers such as Senator Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) and former Senator Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) grow in part from that connection.”

There more, but if you want to live in Hillary dream land you’d better skip it. But if you want to live in a reality based world go to Mother Jones, a highly respected lefting journal (the kind log cabin types hate) and look up Hillary’s Prayer: Hillary Clinton’s Religion and Politics,/b> or just google it.

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Thats pathetic.

As patheitic as Bill Clintons recent remarks that now, after years of whipping up bigoted sentiment, he supports same sex marrige. Subject, of course, to state rights. States rights are a theme that runs through the thinking of many Dixiecrats. Like Thurmond, George Wallace etc. And not unsurprisingly Obama too.

Bill Clintons remarks are meaningless.

The US Congress apologized for slavery. Congress unanimously voted to acknowledge the “fundamental injustice, cruelty, brutality and inhumanity of slavery and Jim Crow laws… on behalf of the people of the United States for the wrongs committed against them and their ancestors who suffered under slavery and Jim Crow laws.”

That didn’t end racism. Without reparations that apology was worse than worthless. It was an insult and so were Clintons remarks.

Promoting homohating is a crime. The fury of anti-GLBT sentiment whipped up by the opposition of the Clintons, Obama and the Bushes to same sex marriage and Clinton’s total and direct responsibility for the evils of DADT aren’t going away. Nor is Bill Clintons rampant bigotry excused in the least because he’s trying to out-maneuver another hustler, Obama, to promote some delusional 2012 comeback dreams of a third right wing christer bigot, Hillary Clinton.

I see all the signs of sexism in this sentence, you would not say these types of things if Hillary was a man.

Thatcher Clone – Reagan’s best buddy was very conservative???
Stern – you mean strong do you not?
Mean spirited – you are referring to Leadership, are you not?
Arrogant – this must mean intelligent, opinionated, and confident?
Dementedly Christian – The media said she did not belong to or attend a church, so where do you get this from?

Sexism is an ugly thing!

No one is seriously claiming Obama can “repeal” DADT. That’s another slimy distraction on your part.

He CAN do WHAT HE PROMISED which contains NONE of the equivocation and stalls or phony claims of acting in the absense of any evidence that he’s puking now at the bidding of the dinosaurs in the Jurassic Park of the Pentagon.

“As president, I will work with Congress and place the weight of my administration behind enactment of the Military Readiness Enhancement Act, which will make nondiscrimination the
official policy of the U.S. military. I will task the Defense Department and the senior command structure in every branch of the armed forces with developing an action plan for the
implementation of a full repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. And I will direct my Secretaries of Defense and Homeland Security to develop procedures for taking re-accession requests from
those qualified service members who were separated from the armed forces under Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell and still want to serve their country. The eradication of this policy will require more
than just eliminating one statute. It will require the implementation of anti-harassment policies and protocols for dealing with abusive or discriminatory behavior as we transition our armed forces away from a policy of discrimination. The military must be our active partners in developing those policies and protocols. That work should have started long ago. It will start when I take office.

America is ready to get rid of the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy. All that is required is leadership.” – Barack Obama, November 29, 2007.

AND:

“I will never compromise on my commitment to equal rights for all LGBT Americans. … Americans are yearning for leadership that can empower us to reach for what we know is possible. I believe that we can achieve the goal of full equality for the millions of LGBT people in this country. To do that, we need leadership that can appeal to the best parts of the human spirit. Join with me, and I will provide that leadership.” – Barack Obama, February 28, 2008.

@galefan2004:

You simply are talking through your ass re policy vs. DADT.

@Cam:

I realize we agree in most ways about this, but, with respect, you oversimplify the discharge rates as a function of DADT itself vs. “policy.” Just as before DADT, going all the way back to WWII, they have fluctuated up or down in direct correlation to how many bodies the military needed.

The goal is not just the elimination of DADT but the proactive position of the government that discrimination against gays in the military will not be tolerated under any form.

I don’t quite get this Right Wing persistence of Queertys.. ”
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I find it shocking that you would call the pushing of movement on gay rights “Right Wing” Have you so put your regard for the president above civil rights for gays that you are now saying that the people that are resisting movement on gay rights are Liberal and the people pushing for more movement on gay rights are “Right Wing”? Is that what you are seriously trying to say.

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galefan2004
Gee it couldn’t possibly have anything to do with accuracy now could it? Let us think back over our history. DADT DID NOT introduce the firing of gay and lesbian soldiers.

Two things, one it codified discrimination into law, previously it had been a policy, and secondly, the expulsions of gays shot through the roof because they now had a something codified that they could use as a roadmap. Since it’s inception over 13000 military members have been kicked out.

Futher, Obama is not the one who can repeal DADT, the Congress does. Have your writers finished high school civics.?
Have you called your Senators about the Mathew Shepard legislation. That’s up this week.

I don’t quite get this Right Wing persistence of Queertys.. That is the only way to read this continuous intentional lack of comprehension. Obama is early in his term and has accomplished an incredible amount: DADT is hardly the most important legislation to happen in America. I have written 6 letters and made several calls this week to Congressmen about important legislation.

If the U.S. goes down the tubes , you can be sure the gay isues won’nt seem too important. It sems like you folks have a very short memory of what has happened in this country and of what trouble we are in. I suspect of you just make ignorant gestures, you will just end up being someone to forget. Then maybe you’ll get a chance to see how another Bush will treat gays.

Janet Napolitano legally suspended enforcement of a State Dept. practice which kicks out the spouses of U.S. citizens, if the U.S. citizen dies before they have been married two years. She suspended the practice to give Congress a chance to research ways to change and reform the law. This was all legal. Are you saying that Janet Napolitano is more powerful than Obama? Additionally, laws are changed all the time. If you had moved beyong grade school you would have learned that there are various practices and ways that laws are changed. The courts, vites, executive decisions etc… Next time, rather than sounding so condescneding you may want to assume that some people on here actually do know something about this issue.

Obama has said the same thing, nothing’s changed. Obama has always said he wanted to change it. Why are we being so foolish about this? This proves that our community is in a state of confusion. And I wish you all would read a law book, it’s clearly obvious that a law or policy is protected within constitution. Did we learn that in grade school?

I’m trying to be mean, I really want this to be changed. However, I’m not going to be fooled in hating a president over assumptions and mess.

They’re just common, run of the mill political hustlers out to make a buck. One of them is a lawyer, just like you. Sordid.

They’re Democrat pols you’re a Democrat shill. Sickening.

They right centrist, pro-war, anti-union, and worker and etc. And that’s why elderly rightist lapdogs like you admire them so. Nauseating.

And, don’t forget, the Clintons killed Vince Foster AND Christ, gassed 6 million Jews, invented slavery, created AIDS using Bill’s boy’s Gilbert Chemistry Set and Little Hill’s Easy-Bake oven to annihilate gays, are personally melting the polar ice caps, and, most unforgiveable of all… cancelled “Laverne & Shirley.”

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But thats because Obama is a Clinton clone. Both are firmly in the camp of christer rightwingers and military homohaters. Both support NAFTA and giveaways to the looter rich. Both are for exacting concessions from working peoples wages and both support the war. Both oppose socialized medicine. Both are right centrist hustlers.

The difference is that Bill Clinton is an unreconstructed Dixiecrat and Obama is a Chichago machine pol.

Hillary Clinton has the same political problems but she’s more of a Thatcher clone. Stern, mean spirited, arrogant and of all of them the most dementedly christian.
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Washington seems to be a LEADERSHIP vacuum these days with very few taking a true leadership role for the LGBT community. The only real leadership we have seen is from Hillary bringing all the equality the laws would allow to the State Department.

As usual the politicians try to run, hide, avoid, and delay any real action to help the LGBT community. I guess we should be happy, at least they give us lip service which is more than we received from the previous administration.