Comments on: Does Anyone Lose If You Use Hitler to Make AIDS Look Scary? http://www.queerty.com/does-anyone-lose-if-you-use-hitler-to-make-aids-look-scary-20090907/ Free of an agenda. Except that gay one. Wed, 15 Feb 2012 07:48:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: underbear1 http://www.queerty.com/does-anyone-lose-if-you-use-hitler-to-make-aids-look-scary-20090907/#comment-214368 underbear1 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 06:03:50 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=66866#comment-214368 ALAN sweetie, continue to think EVERY mention of AIDS doesn't immediately bring up gay in 99% of people's minds, whether it's said or not. ALAN

sweetie, continue to think EVERY mention of AIDS doesn’t immediately bring up gay in 99% of people’s minds, whether it’s said or not.

]]> By: n http://www.queerty.com/does-anyone-lose-if-you-use-hitler-to-make-aids-look-scary-20090907/#comment-214026 n Wed, 09 Sep 2009 04:28:11 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=66866#comment-214026 Eh, not to mention that the dictator locks eyes with the camera in a manner that suggests he knows he's committing murder. Which kind of implies to the viewer that AIDS victims want to infect everyone else. And all the while, the women in all of the ads have absolutely no agency whatsoever. They're not even acknowledging the camera. Eh, not to mention that the dictator locks eyes with the camera in a manner that suggests he knows he’s committing murder. Which kind of implies to the viewer that AIDS victims want to infect everyone else. And all the while, the women in all of the ads have absolutely no agency whatsoever. They’re not even acknowledging the camera.

]]> By: Alan http://www.queerty.com/does-anyone-lose-if-you-use-hitler-to-make-aids-look-scary-20090907/#comment-213956 Alan Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:22:40 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=66866#comment-213956 @<a href="#comment-213779" rel="nofollow">underbear1</a>: Given that it doesn't even mention or remotely allude to gay men - but is rather based entirely around straight 'erotica', I fail to see see how it can be taken to incite 'a very ugly fear and hatred of queers'. I can only think that you've somehow equated AIDS or Hitler with gay men; but there is no evidence to suggest this is the intention of the producers or a foreseeable or reasonable interpretation of the ad. Again, I think it's a case of looking to be offended. @underbear1: Given that it doesn’t even mention or remotely allude to gay men – but is rather based entirely around straight ‘erotica’, I fail to see see how it can be taken to incite ‘a very ugly fear and hatred of queers’. I can only think that you’ve somehow equated AIDS or Hitler with gay men; but there is no evidence to suggest this is the intention of the producers or a foreseeable or reasonable interpretation of the ad.

Again, I think it’s a case of looking to be offended.

]]> By: *sigh* http://www.queerty.com/does-anyone-lose-if-you-use-hitler-to-make-aids-look-scary-20090907/#comment-213835 *sigh* Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:17:03 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=66866#comment-213835 @<a href="#comment-213690" rel="nofollow">M Shane</a>: Wow you're a moron... @M Shane: Wow you’re a moron…

]]> By: Carver http://www.queerty.com/does-anyone-lose-if-you-use-hitler-to-make-aids-look-scary-20090907/#comment-213824 Carver Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:30:41 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=66866#comment-213824 @<a href="#comment-213655" rel="nofollow">Thinker2</a>: I'm outraged that I haven't found something to be outraged about! @Thinker2: I’m outraged that I haven’t found something to be outraged about!

]]> By: underbear1 http://www.queerty.com/does-anyone-lose-if-you-use-hitler-to-make-aids-look-scary-20090907/#comment-213779 underbear1 Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:32:31 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=66866#comment-213779 @Alan you don't have to "look to be offended", the ad is OFFENSIVE. It also stokes a very ugly fear and hatred of queers, using a straight woman as the victim. This scare tactic won't stop a single case of AIDS, because it doesn't show the horrors of AIDS. Start showing 20 year olds dying, so fatigued and sick their lives will never be the same. If you wanted the horror of Nazis, show the open pit of corpses with lime thrown on top of them. I've lived with AIDS for 25 years, I never spread it, I've survived a lover who died in 1990 when he'd just turned 24 yo. My lover now has AIDS, and became infected almost the same time I did. The reason my generation changed our sexual habits (which was the first time an STD ever changed sexual practices) is because we saw friends and aquaintances dying (dozens and dozens of them.) @Alan you don’t have to “look to be offended”, the ad is OFFENSIVE.
It also stokes a very ugly fear and hatred of queers, using a straight woman as the victim.
This scare tactic won’t stop a single case of AIDS, because it doesn’t show the horrors of AIDS. Start showing 20 year olds dying, so fatigued and sick their lives will never be the same.
If you wanted the horror of Nazis, show the open pit of corpses with lime thrown on top of them.
I’ve lived with AIDS for 25 years, I never spread it, I’ve survived a lover who died in 1990 when he’d just turned 24 yo.
My lover now has AIDS, and became infected almost the same time I did. The reason my generation changed our sexual habits (which was the first time an STD ever changed sexual practices) is because we saw friends and aquaintances dying (dozens and dozens of them.)

]]> By: Alan http://www.queerty.com/does-anyone-lose-if-you-use-hitler-to-make-aids-look-scary-20090907/#comment-213768 Alan Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:55:58 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=66866#comment-213768 The ad represents AIDS as the murderer. To say that it stigmatizes people living with HIV or AIDS is to turn the message on its head: they (like the woman in the ad) are victims of the virus, not the perpetrator. I think we should distinguish between cases where people are actually offended, and cases where people merely have a vague feeling that they should feel offended. The ad might be shocking and sensationalist, but to be offended you have to be looking to feel offended. The ad represents AIDS as the murderer. To say that it stigmatizes people living with HIV or AIDS is to turn the message on its head: they (like the woman in the ad) are victims of the virus, not the perpetrator.

I think we should distinguish between cases where people are actually offended, and cases where people merely have a vague feeling that they should feel offended. The ad might be shocking and sensationalist, but to be offended you have to be looking to feel offended.

]]> By: alan brickman http://www.queerty.com/does-anyone-lose-if-you-use-hitler-to-make-aids-look-scary-20090907/#comment-213739 alan brickman Tue, 08 Sep 2009 05:08:37 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=66866#comment-213739 tasteless and distracting from the point...go back to ad school... tasteless and distracting from the point…go back to ad school…

]]> By: Dennis http://www.queerty.com/does-anyone-lose-if-you-use-hitler-to-make-aids-look-scary-20090907/#comment-213738 Dennis Tue, 08 Sep 2009 05:08:25 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=66866#comment-213738 This ad campaign is a load of crap, and deserves all of the scorn it has received...done purely for shock value, and unconcerned with any collateral damage it may create. Aids is a mass murderer? Getting fucked by Adolf Hitler? Talk about sensationalistic fear mongering and demonizing HIV+ people...there are FAR better ways to educate people about the risks of unprotected sex, and the dangers of risking infection. FAIL. (what's that in German? Bullscheize?!) This ad campaign is a load of crap, and deserves all of the scorn it has received…done purely for shock value, and unconcerned with any collateral damage it may create.

Aids is a mass murderer? Getting fucked by Adolf Hitler? Talk about sensationalistic fear mongering and demonizing HIV+ people…there are FAR better ways to educate people about the risks of unprotected sex, and the dangers of risking infection.

FAIL. (what’s that in German? Bullscheize?!)

]]> By: Lucky Luke http://www.queerty.com/does-anyone-lose-if-you-use-hitler-to-make-aids-look-scary-20090907/#comment-213721 Lucky Luke Tue, 08 Sep 2009 01:50:59 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=66866#comment-213721 @<a href="#comment-213690" rel="nofollow">M Shane</a>: Thinking about the virus positively? Maybe I'm a little too dim, but what exactly is that supposed to mean? I understand thinking about in a less negative way, since it's not the killer it used to be, but that's far from thinking about it positively. Like some "HIV proud" people I see. You shouldn't be ashamed for being HIV+, but that's definetly not something to be proud of. @M Shane:

Thinking about the virus positively? Maybe I’m a little too dim, but what exactly is that supposed to mean? I understand thinking about in a less negative way, since it’s not the killer it used to be, but that’s far from thinking about it positively. Like some “HIV proud” people I see. You shouldn’t be ashamed for being HIV+, but that’s definetly not something to be proud of.

]]> By: jason http://www.queerty.com/does-anyone-lose-if-you-use-hitler-to-make-aids-look-scary-20090907/#comment-213693 jason Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:47:59 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=66866#comment-213693 I think these Hitler ads are awful and moronic. It's almost as if they've been created by snotty-nosed adolescents in "creative" mode. For one thing, they misrepresent HIV. The ads suggest that HIV is mass murder. Mass murder? Then why are people living for decades now with HIV? Magic Johnson was declared HIV positive in 1991. He's still healthy and living a near-normal life as far as I can tell. Also, why are all the women in the ads young and pretty? And why aren't there images of men getting fucked by Hitler? Sorry, guys, but these ads are not only misleading, they're also stereotypical and possibly homophobic. I think these Hitler ads are awful and moronic. It’s almost as if they’ve been created by snotty-nosed adolescents in “creative” mode.

For one thing, they misrepresent HIV. The ads suggest that HIV is mass murder. Mass murder? Then why are people living for decades now with HIV? Magic Johnson was declared HIV positive in 1991. He’s still healthy and living a near-normal life as far as I can tell.

Also, why are all the women in the ads young and pretty? And why aren’t there images of men getting fucked by Hitler? Sorry, guys, but these ads are not only misleading, they’re also stereotypical and possibly homophobic.

]]> By: M Shane http://www.queerty.com/does-anyone-lose-if-you-use-hitler-to-make-aids-look-scary-20090907/#comment-213690 M Shane Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:42:19 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=66866#comment-213690 It's odd for Germans to be scapegoating Hitler for all the ugliness of Nazism, especially on the heels of proof that the German people were for a large part wholehearted participants in the Nazi outrage. Letters and multiple pieces of documentation on top of the fact that fascism was a democratic and popular movement even though business profited. Interesting timing. I was made aware of this fact by an older German woman in California years ago when I was a teenager. The other aspect of Aids treatment has to do with thinking of the virus positively, which a picture of hitler I don't think would help. It’s odd for Germans to be scapegoating Hitler for all the ugliness of Nazism, especially on the heels of proof that the German people were for a large part wholehearted participants in the Nazi outrage. Letters and multiple pieces of documentation on top of the fact that fascism was a democratic and popular movement even though business profited.
Interesting timing. I was made aware of this fact by an older German woman in California years ago when I was a teenager.
The other aspect of Aids treatment has to do with thinking of the virus positively, which a picture of hitler I don’t think would help.

]]> By: Thinker2 http://www.queerty.com/does-anyone-lose-if-you-use-hitler-to-make-aids-look-scary-20090907/#comment-213655 Thinker2 Mon, 07 Sep 2009 20:42:28 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=66866#comment-213655 America is now officially the "Outrage" nation. Have you been outraged today? America is now officially the “Outrage” nation.

Have you been outraged today?

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