Correction: it’s “House Speaker Shap Smith” not “House Speaker Sap Smith” – you’re missing an “h” in his name. It’s going to be really close today.
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(Then)Jim Crow – (Now)Jim Douglas
http://worldofwonder.net/2009/04/06/Jim_and_Jim/
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More bad grammar!
“the bill passed by the both branches of the legislature”??
“10:30 am this morning”?? As opposed to 10:30 am this afternoon??
“The bill passed the House last week by a vote of 95-52. For the House to override Douglas’ veto, they must get a two-thirds majority, which means 100 votes, just five shy of the original vote.” Actually, 100 votes is NOT just 5 shy of 95. 95 is just 5 shy of 100.
“but here are where we think…” Here ARE?
I do not readed the rest of this that there piece due two the ridiciuoius ammmount of errorrs in it.
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To Alec: “They did it! VT is #4! And first by legislature!”
Gnaa gna gnaa and Belgium was second after the Netherlands, gna gna gnaa and each time a new state is getting it I get a smile on my face, yours is the good fight the one for the future it will change people’s way of thinking and make the world a better place to live in.
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The Freepers are losing their minds.
http://www.freerepublic.com/fo.....4123/posts
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we won. we won. we won. damned activist legislators! how dare they create a law which grants equal rights to a minority without a court telling them to! how dare they go against a governor who said second best is good enough during their debate?
i have been to the fox forum for this story. the anti gays are fruitcakes. and bigots. their reasoning is just vile and stupid.
and i love it. it proves me righter and righter each and every day. paradigm (sp). the arguments they are using do not fly and the rhetoric is such that it cannot be tolerated in a civilized society. supernatural reasoning is all they have.
people are getting sick of it.
Conservatism is an unholy alliance between religion and the body politic which sets itself up for failure due to its absolutism and its claim that it cannot fail. Yet all it has done is fail, and fail, and fail. It is just like communism, but with God.
pass it on. it is why the times are changing. it is getting to the point where their screaming is going to do them in royally.
it is all part of a bigger picture.
there are people out there that might not like gays but are going to get fed up with the specious hateful arguments against gays. they will realize the utter stupidity of it.
and they will join our side.
they will still not like the gays, but who cares if they don’t hurt you. we are allowed outr own personal private bigotries. we just learn to keep them to ourselves and not act like eric cartman. although i do so hate hippies, midgets and ginger kids. especially hippy midget ginger kids.
damn i almost feel good.
look at the big picture and all the news. the vatican is spreading lies about the shroud of turin. they are saying it is older than it actually is and using the knights templar to do it.
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@Aaron J.: thank you for that link. that is the exact type of talk that is going to get people to start changing their minds. who would want to know a person who spouts like that? can you just image what they are like on other stuff? they are forcing the change and are too stupid to realize it.
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@tricky ricky: Many hetero people support the LGBT movement as for those who don’t (the older generations) they need things explained to them not thrown in their faces. As for the knights of the temple you’re totally off. The order was put off by pope whatchamacallit on the insistence of the king of France Philippe Le Bel and they were burnt at the stake, the accusation was homosexuality this happened in the 1300′s. I’m very happy VT joined the club and more states will follow suit in the near future, but “We won, we won, we won” sounds too much like soccer fans and I don’t have time for these.
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@fern: this makes me sick, it is an abonimation in Gods eyes, and in most Vermonters eyes. Another law shoving gays down our throat, When will you realize it doesn’t matter what Vermont thinks, God is against this, and That is all that matters. I will stand with God, I will not support this, no mater what the state thinks, Anyone, with a moral consience, will not agree with this.
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@linda:
That it is an abomination in your eyes I can understand, but come now, in God’s eyes? God is against this?
I can understand your repulsion at the homosexual act, even gay people may have been repulsed at first, as this is due to our environment and upbringing. To use your rhetoric why would God create something he can’t stand? I wish you would question yourself about God and the part he is MADE to play in our society, I wish you would be less gullible. People told you God was against it, God never told YOU, you’re just echoing what power hungry church leaders are pushing down your throat.
I can only hope that you would think for yourself without influence.
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Agree with you 100%
Nina and her Russian twin looked fierce, and Ongina and her partner, whom I dubbed Girlgina after the make-over, were fab. In my opinion, they totally nailed the challenge, which made RPs opinions confusing, especially when Shanelle is praised when her girl, Sweepee, looked so dragtasic.
A confusing, poorly edited episode, with a challenge that seems to change depending on who is talking, all leading up to fierce sweetheart of the bunch, Ongina, being eliminated. WTF?
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First off, WTF!?!?!?! Ongina loses out to Bebe because Bebe ripped her wig off?!?!? Homo don’t think so. Plus i just lost the betting pool with my straight friends. Boo I say to the producers. BOO!
Secondly, I understand that Rebecca is playing the foil for the series, making everyone else (including Shannel in all her high-strung perfectionist glory) look like saints, but that bitch needs to go. The only thing she can really do is sew and look pretty. That does not make a drag queen.
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I like Ongina, but i am over ‘club kid’ half drag. She can’t hold a candle to the other queens.
Rebecca, dumb bitch, tranny hooker look
Shannel, anyone would look fierce in those expensive costumes
the final two should be Bebe and Nina
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I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who felt that this last “Drag Race” episode was faulty. The comments on each of this episodes page (on logo) seem to say the same thing about the wig incident. I was surprised I liked this show so much as well, and am really sorry to see Ongina go…but please have mercy…Rebecca is one hot beyotch.
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I grew to love Ongina long before last week’s tearful confession. I am so sad to see her go.
BTW, I just changed my Facebook quote to “that’s the secret lesson drag queens impart on us: If you’re given stupid, demeaning things to do, do them with pride and self-respect and you own them.” With full credit to Queerty. Words to live by.
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I will say that was disappointing for ep 5 – what should’ve happenend – ep 4 – Shannell should’ve kicked off Rebecca so in ep 5 Ongina could’ve kicked off Jade – alas that was not meant to be. I am really surprised to get so into the show – I honestly didn’t think I would – I will say that Drag Race does seem ‘fixed’ – it was tough to tell before – but its getting that reality TV smell to it – for ep 5 – on the surface should’ve been FUNNY but it seemed to lack the humor and then Ongina leaving – that was tough to watch – the real kick was Rebecca winning – it should’ve been Shannel who had the toughest transformation to work on but she also had the best skills to pull it off – For the record I like all the remaining contestants but in my opinion Rebecca has the least to offer…fewer queens makes for tougher decisions.
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Thank gawd I’m not the only one who thinks Ongina was robbed! Oh yes, and muchas gracias a Japhy for explaining to all of us “reality teevee” junkies these interesting tricks of the trade. This justs makes me suspect even more that the producers are just keeping Rebecca on to stir up sh*t and keep fools like us watching. I guess I’ll fall for it… Sort of.
While I do like Bebe and think there’s plausible reason to keep Shannel and Nina on, Rebecca really should have been sent home last week for her gawd awful “VivaGlam Ad”. And even this week, I must admit that Shannel deserved to win this time for her great costuming and transformation of her butch “drag daughter” into a very lovely lady. But hey, I guess the producers just want to shake it up to f*ck up the show some more and keep us addicted to all the crazy drama.
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I agree with you Queerty! The judges are so stupid and fake! They said Nina’s partner looks like a Drag Queen, but what about Ongina? Ongina’s partner looks like a woman! I don’t get the judges.
We can’t stand Rebecca Glasscock either. We all screamed when Ongina lost.
Ongina, Nina are fan favorites. Why kick off the fan favorite?
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We all know that in nearly every reality series the producers play a role in deciding which contestant stays and which will go–which made the fact that one see’s RuPaul leave the table all the more suspect. I had imagined that something fun and showy might emerge from behind the table, a RuPaul and a mini Ru in the form of a retouched Serena Williams perhaps? But no…it was simply a build up for dramatic impact with no real dramatic payoff.
Alas, I must lodge a complaint here. All this hate of poor ‘lil Rebecca. Down with a bad cold this weekend, I felt disappointed that I was not up to visiting a museum or attending a poetry reading, and in my drive to bring a little culture into my life, I visited the Drag Race website to watch the behind the scenes bickering that they reveal there. Interestingly, Rebecca, behind thhe scenes, tends to avoid in the many messy conversations that unfold in the green room. So enriched by my viewing experience over the weekend, I just had to visit last night, and was interested in hearing what Rebecca’s intent was in assigning each lady fighter to each lady impersonator.
While I thought that the bald cage fighter, assigned to our favorite juggling queen might have served Ogina better, Rebecca revealed that she paired each he-she to the contestent that would best suit their ability to make them over. She did ruffle a couple of ostrich feathers by explaining to Ogina that she felt that make-up wasn’t her strong suit, and that she assiged the toughest case to Shannel because of her talent and experience in make-up. Of course, this could have been a ruse, it could be that she just wished to provide the greatest challenge to the individual she feels is her biggest competition, but one could see that what she said could have been her true intent. Doubtlessly, Ogina was paired with the most striking of our female fighters, and in the end, Rebecca has not proven herself to be one of drag’s greatest minds.
Drag, I’ve always thought, demanding a bit of outrageousness. The most successful performers have been those with the largest personalities. RuPaul came to fame, not just for larger than life physical presence, but for his larger than life personality as well, and in this, our Rebecca prooves more “female impersonator” than drag queen, and there is a difference. Poor little thing doesn’t stand a chance, and the irony is that the contestant of the smallest stature, arguably had the largest personality of all.
Shannele shows glimmer of personality, but seems incapable of summoning a sense of humor. Bebe is regal and a strong black woman obviously courses through her veins, but humor seems to ellude her as well. We are left with Nina Flowers who, despite revealing her masculine side, has a fun with each challenge, and brings a little bit of humor to each of her challenges.
Nina Flowers is my pick to pick up the drag mantel and run with it. Nevertheless, isn’t it just wonderful that the Bush era is over, and that we can be a bit frivolous in times that are sizing up to be so very hard?
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I’m thinking that maybe all this was actually intentional, kind of to poke fun at what happened to Tyra on ANTM when Ebony #3 and Ambreal were up for elimination (cycle 9, when Chantal should have won but Tyra gave the title to her little protege, Tootie-Saleisha), and Ebony #3 decided right then and there that she wanted to quit, mere moments before Tyra was to announce that Ambreal was eliminated. Tyra had to run off and consult with her producers to see if Ebony could quit (this despite the fact that at least one girl had quit in an earlier season).
Oh, I’m in complete agreement that Ongina shouldn’t have been eliminated, but I’m not convinced that this style of elimination wasn’t in the works already.
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Why are we hating on Rebecca Glasscock so hard? I forget.
I love Ongina, but I didn’t see her winning this thing at all. The bitch isn’t really a “Drag Queen”. She is what I would call a “hybrid”. While I love what she does, I don’t feel like she is fitting the standards. She doesn’t tuck, she doesn’t wear wigs, and she doesn’t do tits. Um…. aren’t these kind of key factors in the drag illusion? I love the androgyny that is Ongina, but I feel like that is a whole different competition. Maybe I am being too narrow in my fews but if we are looking to have another RuPaul, I want one with tits and big hair.
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Over all, i think they all did a very good job at turning their girls into themselves. The fact that the judges apparently couldn’t make up their minds what the challenge was about totally pissed me off. “Yeah lets change the criteria around in the middle of judging, AFTER the girls have done all the work.” F-ing brilliant.
I liked Ongina in the first place, and after last week’s episode i had a great deal of respect and admiration for her. And I loved Bebe’s makeover. She made it very clear that her persona was more about a passion for her heritage and that’s what she did for her model. I wish the judges would have asked why she went with that look instead of just criticizing it. I can’t stand Rebecca. Not only is she a bitch, SHE IS BORING. She’s not even really a drag queen, she’s a female impersonator. There’s a subtle difference. And I’m very disappointed that Ru Paul hasn’t mentioned that yet. When asked about being a female impersonator once, Ru said “I do not impersonate females! How many women do you know who wear seven-inch heels, four-foot wigs, and skintight dresses?” Rebecca on the other hand is too realistic. Her look is very simple, very real-womanish, which makes her a FEMALE IMPERSONATOR. Drag queens are supposed to wild, crazy, and over the top, an exaggeration. I agree that it should have been Rebecca to go last week, and then Jade this week. Even though I’m sure Jade’s makeover would have been awesome.
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I didn’t realize how much the show derailed until I read this. I’m disappointed, but we’ll just have to move forward from this tragedy and see what happens next week. “And then there were four…” I think Rebbecca is going down. If it comes down to Bebe and Rebbecca I’m going to be extremely annoyed. I used to like Bebe, but this episode she just seemed narrow and forced (the wig thing, yeah).
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My partner and I were so sad to see Ongina go as well! I was even warming up to her boy personality :( But, I was even more outraged that Ongina too the boot for Glasscock! I am at a loss for the words to describe my indignation.
Whatever it was that inspired the wig-tossing hissy-fit in Bebe during the LSFYL will hopefully never be seen again: Girl went from composed seductress to crack-whore on her last rock in a SNAP! Uuhhhgly I tell you.
Interestingly, while flipping the channels I caught a snip of 365gay news right … well who did they have a blurb about? Ongina! Yes, sure did. They were talking about her first appearance as the Viva Glam gurl for MAC so I knew she wasn’t going to win but damn.
And who the hell recruited the Russian boxer to have her lip-synch? It was fitting that she was paired with Nina (they both looked fantastic! and should have won) but that was a shade shady Ms. Paul.
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Okay. Am I alone in loving Rebecca? Seems clear to me that the dramatic arc for the show that RuPaul/the producers/the editors have in mind is to make us hate her. All the other contestants go on and on about what a bitch she is…but whenever she speaks for herself, she seems perfectly reasonable to me…although she might have been a teensy tad self-indulgent last week with the Viva Glam/HIV dramatics.
Maybe it’s simply that she’s wildly beautiful, but somebody here had to stand up for Rebecca.
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While I’ve never been a huge fan of Ongina’s (although I loved her last week), I have to say that at least as a queen she isn’t forgettable.
Neither is Shannel, Bebe, or Nina.
Rebecca…completely forgettable. It’s not that she even looks like every drag queen alive. She just looks like a hooker.
That said, she’s playing this game to win and when all is said and done, it is a contest. She played her hand with mad skill.
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@Robert:
i agree 100%.
the show is edited to make rebecca the bitch, but the footage shown of her doesn’t support that.
i like rebecca.
i don’t think she’s better than the other contestants – she possesses little showmanship or dance skills, but she can learn.
she can bring back veejays and be a host on VH1…
drag queens in practice don’t have to be campy & loud, if they are as pretty as rebecca.
she needs to work on her makeup!
i like her fishy style because she keeps it real and current.
she reflects the way girls in the club look today!
by the way, rebecca is adorable as a boy and her nose looks as if it could be real to me.
i like her headbands, cut up t-shirts and curly hair out of drag.
don’t hate, appreciate!
the editor of this queerty column is clearly jealous of “latin boys”.
“…who charms the crabs of fishermans’ wharf right out of their shells?
phyllis, it sure isn’t yoouu!”
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‘the editor of this queerty column is clearly jealous of “latin boys”‘
Seems to me you are the one with the jealousy issue. I did not see anything remotely amazing with Rebecca in the last episode. Recall the judges’ harsh comments on Nina not covering her tattoos up at the beginning? If anything, Rebecca should have been booted just because she did not cover up her make-over’s tattoo. Nina Flowers, on the other hand, wore a long sleeves to cover her tattoos and that look still worked.
“i don’t think she’s better than the other contestants – she possesses little showmanship or dance skills, but she can learn”
5 episodes in, don’t you think it is a little late to still be “learning” some simple skills. We are talking about a show that is broadcast on national TV, right?
As to Ongina being booted because of Bebe’s dance: While I like them both, if tumbling around the staged is all you need to win the lip sync, then Jade should have stayed and Rebecca should have packed her bags last week. Jade was a much better dancer in that show than Rebecca.
I agree with Queerty, something is fishy about the producers. I am done with the show and if enough of us feels that same, the ratings would speak louder than the producers’ fixed decision.
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@Andy:
>>5 episodes in, don’t you think it is a little late to still be “learning” some simple skills. We are talking about a show that is broadcast on national TV, right?<<
well, showmanship and exciting dance are not “simple skills”.
ps
i would think part of the criteria for judging the winner is “potential”.
now that ongina is gone, rebecca is the only contestant with real “supermodel” beauty potential.
i’m only saying!
if you say don’t forget shannel (sp?)
i have a mall in las vegas i would like to sell you.
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@sparkle obama
No thank you. You can keep the mall to yourself. I am sure it is prime property in this economy.
“well, showmanship and exciting dance are not “simple skills”
That’s certainly true for Rebecca because the other girls in the last episode all had something to offer. Rebecca seems like an also-ran in comparison.
“i would think part of the criteria for judging the winner is “potential”
Well, if you call imitating a hooker “potential” Rebecca certainly has that one down. Go back to last week’s lip sync, Jade showed much more potential than Rebecca did and Jade should have stayed.
Speaking of Shannel, she felt sick, but she did compete in the mini challenge. Unlike Rebecca, who completely ditched the stage in last week challenge. How is that different than Tammy surrendering in the lip-sync in Week 2? You quit, you lose, and Rebecca should have been booted in the viva glam week on so many levels.
And one more about Shannel, can’t stand her attitude when she made fun of Jade in the Oprah challenge. She’s trying to be the know-it-all of the group. It would be interesting if we have a “True Beauty” episode on all the Queens on RuPaul’s Drag Race.
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Now I think Rebecca should’ve gone two weeks ago but here she is – grrr – and she won this week which if you think about it is total bogus! The challenge was for the contesants to transform the fighters into their stage personae…and all Rebecca does is be a girl – a fishy girl – so she had to make a girl into a girl – come on folks! the other queens had so much more to do – Nina – Shannell – Ongina – Bebe – all had to pull off something so much harder – and Rebecca wins for the easiest transformation??? WTF??
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@sparkle obama: Perhaps that’s because Rebecca plays “nice, shy princess” while on her one-on-one interview? It’s clear to me she’s playing a game to stab the other queens in the back when they don’t expect it, and the others are finally starting to notice. I mean, at least Akashia was upfront in declaring herself “the bitch of the show”. Rebecca, OTOH, seems more clandestine in her bitchiness.
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@Robert B.: Yeah, that just wasn’t fair. Rebecca by far had the easiest job with her butch girl, yet all she could do was pull off a look I could easily make by just buying a dress and make-up at Macy’s? Where was the creativity?! As I said upthread, I really think Shannel deserved to win this week & Ongina deserved a chance to save herself by lip-syncing against Jade.
The producers f*cked it all up by having Rebecca stay, so now we’ll have to endure 3 more weeks of her bitchy drama. Sigh. :-(
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i love ongina, and she is amazing. i am a huge fan of the show. i wanted ongina to win the whole thing.
but let’s be honest. girl messed up.
her outfit was not good. she looked like a boy. she even commented that she put forth her outfit as such. her partner had gorgeous makeup, but so too was her outfit not that great.
ru said it, “ongina, i cant believe it but you got outshined.”
i hate shannel. bebe’s partner wasn’t good either, but bebe put forth effort in the lip sync. ongina didn’t.
girl needed to show something in the lip sync. anything. ru paul just need something to pick her over bebe, but ongina didn’t provide much of anything by way of dance.
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I’m curious what Japh’s str8 roommate thought? He got dragged into this a few weeks ago and now he has been voted off the island.
I miss Ongina already, she grew on me, at first I didn’t like her, but I came to appreciate her uniqueness.
Nina is fierce, but how fricken short is she?
Bebe – Like her but she seems limited.
Rebecca – beautiful, I like the boy Rebecca better (can’t remember his name).
Shannel – hate her.
Um, I can’t believe nobody had anything to say about “Sweet Pea”, she seemed to enjoy her make over quite a bit. I hope in the parts we didn’t get to see that the judges and Ru really complemented the real girls.
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Rebecca = tired little boy in a dress // don’t see her as pretty at all.
I love Ongina, at least she has some individuality. Bebe is usually pretty cool, but that lip synching performance was way over-the-top // and if it’s too much for a drag queen, then you know it’s got to be bad!
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And tonight was when I lost respect for R’s integrity. Bored now. One less show to watch. Probably for the best.
Yes– she want’s to fuck Rebecca. me too. Not a reason to carry on. Pay the $50, rent a hot tub, but don’t give her more credit than it deserves.
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I’m late to comment on this one, but hell, why not, it was a long day.
Anyway, I was really sad to see Ongina go as well. I really like her. She never really seemed to have anything negative to say about anyone. I think there was a big mistake made in this week’s elimination.
Rebeca can’t even walk in heels properly, not like the others seem to. She should of gone home. And that wig she had on was cheap looking.
Bebe, don’t care for her at all. She just screams cheap tranny hooker to me.
Nina Flowers. I like her. She’s now my current favorite.
And that other one, the over the top one, is it Shannel? eh. She’s to showgirl for my taste.
My two favorites were Tammie Brown and Ongina and they’re both gone, so whatever with it now I guess.
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I normally love Bebe, but I was turned off by her lipsynch performance. Normally she’s all about poise, but she didn’t bring any realness to the lipsynch, just a more poorly-executed version of the trick that Shanelle used to save herself: engineer some weave malfunction at the climax for an apparent sincerity upgrade.
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Jaffron, sweety, who’s paying you to keep repeating that “Logo’s only worthwhile show” nonsense, and how much? RICK & STEVE IS A GOOD SHOW. Stop being a bitch for no reason and give some credit where credit is due.
And, you don’t need to have behind-the-scenes know-how to understand editing and producer involvement. You just need to not live in a cave.
Anyway still team Nina here. She turned it out and she’s not as uptight as Bebe.
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i stopped watching when tammie brown was eliminated. obviously the producers are not appreciating the girls as unique talents and trying to fit them into a tight mould, if you dont fit youre out. which, knowing Ru’s club kid history doesnt quite fit his own character… can we say “sell out”
i had thought ongina would finish at least top 2 – but this goes to show you a true artist has no place in mainstream media.
the others can be found at any gay bar on any corner of any town.
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I thought the drag shows’ requirement is:
C.U.N.T. —- Creativity, Uniqueness, Nerves and Talent?
First of all ….
Ongina is VERY creative! You can clearly see it in her style.
Ongina is also very Unique! I’ve never seen a Drag Queen like her.
Ongina also has Nerves. She nailed two of the challenges and did a great job with her interviews.
She also has Talent! This girl can dance!
As far as Rebecca??? I don’t know why this Queen lasted this long.
In the first episode, she was having a hard time creating her mediocre costume.
She’s also not Unique. Her look is very common in the drag community.
Something is really fishy with LOGO. I think they just kept her there for drama factor.
Shame on you LOGO and RUPAUL. SHAME!!!!!!
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The winner without a doubt should be Nina Flowers! She has had the best transformations, with some making her look totally different than what her main Drag Queen look is. She is very different from the others and when she walks down the Runway she does it with distinct femininity and class. I loved Ongina as well and she was my second favorite and I don’t think she should have been cut. Even thought Shanelle is arrogant and thinks she is better than anyone there, I think she still has a change at this. Rebecca… She should have been out since 2 weeks ago, Jade won that day but like everyone else is saying, they need a bitch in the show to keep people interested. Bebe… right, I guess she thought to herself.. “if it worked for Shanelle why not?” She does a great transformation but that is it, one transformation, same big hair, same theme, blah blah blah. The judges need to get it together, I am not sure if they were aware of what the challenge was or am I going crazy? I thought they were suppose to make their girl fighters into their Drag selves? What ever, I guess they are not there for their intelligence but to fill the positions that needed to be filled.
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It’s obvious they needed a new bitch and Rebecca Glasscock can fill it. She should have been gone when she made the depressing MAC commercial, the fake breakdown and the raccoon drag get up.
The judges and the producers are either blind or they just need to add a little drama in the show. Well it just lose it’s fun when you add negativity in the show.
Jade deserved to be in the Top 5 and Ongina deserves to be in the Top 3.
The show is obviously fixed and the show has lost it’s integrity.
I’ve lost respect for Rupaul and LOGO.
Such a shame. It could have been a really good show, but now that Ongina is gone. The show has lost it’s magic.
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@Rupauls’ Drag Show is obviously FAKE – RELAX – it is only a show and supposed to be entertaining. Take it for what it is worth. While it is interesting to get into the show and have opinions, to invest so much emotions into it.
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ongina was totally robbed. i hope the producers give her a show of her own! the show will not be the same without her. i was searching online and found this tee at cafepress
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/mo.....8;pr=F/img
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I LOOOOVE Ongina, however I had one little issue with her and knew she couldn’t win. In 3 seperate episodes she mentioned something she didn’t do, followed by “that’s what seperates me from other drag queens” or something like that. She doesn’t wear hair, doesn’t tuck, doesn’t do impersonations. While I think she is totally awesome at what she is, I think she’s her own hybrid style of entertainer and not the same kinda drag queen as Ru and Nina.
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I think Ru’s getting so caught up in who’s winning these individual challenges that he’s losing sight of the overall aim here – to find the new great drag persona! It’s time for him to take up the reigns here and say “Y’all know what? I’m the diva here and I say you stay and you go. Why? Because I said so, bitch!”
Only Ongina and Nina have the personality it takes to run with new obstacles, work/converse/perform with new people on the spot and be likeable characters in and of themselves as opposed to just performing a set on stage. That’s what will get you your own show! Who wants to watch a show hosted by Shanelle? Nobody.
Bebe’s great too, and I like her, but she’s too safe – too old school drag. The drag queen of the 21st century has to push the limits and only Nina has that edge now, though she does seem a bit lacking in confidence. USE that accent girl – it’s an asset, not a flaw!
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@ Chapeau:
Be happy they didn’t post the whole thing. It’s actually LGBTSIQQA. Stands for (the obvious) Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Straight, and [the less obvious] Intersex, Queer, Questioning, Asexual.
….and there will probably be more letters added as time goes on, as people learn that there is no set form of gender or sexuality.
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@chapeau: Why are Ts in the list for Prop8? A lot Ts are straight and, last I checked, straights can marry whomever they wish.
I’m all for inclusion of Ts in gay rights struggles when they are getting discriminated against (and, really, they have it a lot tougher than me, a gay white dude), but adding the T on here seems as if it is done out of force of habit.
I favor dropping ALL the letters and just saying same-sex marriage, because that really is more descriptive and it doesn’t presume orientation of any type or stripe.
(let the flames begin…)
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I would really love to know when our communities are going to stop fighting over symantics and realize – we are all in this together. LGBTQQIAAS – everybody.
The word transgender represents an entire umbrella of gender-diverse people and experiences. Not every single trans person can or wants to legally change their sex. Its very expensive, difficult, time consuming and sometimes just not what a person wants. Therefore lots of “same-sex” relationships involve transgender people – and their are LOTS of gay/lesbian trans people out there too.
I dont think trans and intersex were thrown on out of habit – I think they’re included because this marriage fight involves all of us and our discrimination is interlinked.
I like what Tim said about ” just saying same-sex marriage, because that really is more descriptive and it doesn’t presume orientation of any type or stripe” but I disagree with the idea that transpeople aren’t as involved in the marriage fighr as gender”normative” LGB people.
I’m a gender”normative” bisexual woman, though I personally prefer to describe myself as pansexual as pansexual rejects the idea of the gender binary – but I know first hand that Trans people make up same-sex families and therefore marriages and shouldn’t be left out when we talk about the same-sex marriage fight.
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“What about me?” Gaydolf Hit-on-Her
Seriously, I thought the I was for “Incoming wounded”
I’m just mad that they did not include Two Spirit or Bovine Quadrapeds so guess we should focus on Same-sex marriage as fighting for straight-identified people in this group seems counter-productive when they already have that legal right to marry someone of the opposite sex.
BTW – Why should Christians be the only ones to “pimp their children”
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@Lauren: I’m not necessarily disagreeing with anything you wrote. However:
1. Semantics are important, especially in a fight over a word.
2. “The word transgender represents an entire umbrella of gender-diverse people and experiences.” Although this is true, the fight for Trans rights it’s not the fight I am interested in today. I am interested in the same-sex marriage battle. I feel sometimes as if the T is added out of force of habit. Other times it seems as if it’s shoehorned into the discussion (sometimes appropriate, but often not). And as often as not, it reminds me of the “Free Mumia” demonstrators that show up at every protest for a progressive cause – no one would say that the Free Mumia people don’t have every right to be there, or that their cause is not just, but I can say with complete certainty that the Free Mumia people dilute the meaning and effectiveness of an action when they show up.
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Semantics aside, folks, my husband (until California decides to divorce us, I guess) and I now find all of these findings to be challenges to be met with every single day. Family, whom we loved, no longer speak with us because we wanted to intrude on their religious freedom (I wish they would speak to us for just 5 minutes so that I could tell them exactly what I think of this, but in the mean time, I’ll just say “whew!”); our neighborhood, which was once close, is no longer friendly; where folks used to stop to tell us to tell us they loved the garden in our front yard, now trash is thrown there; our nieces and nephews are harrassed at school for having gay uncles.
We’d leave, but we both have obligations here, along with elderly parents who rely upon our support. If not for that, I’d be a new Bostonian.
I’m a native Californian, and it is just amazing that this is happening here, I just can’t believe it. I fight all day long for our rights with every single person who brings it up to me–clients ask, “do you have to have marriage?,” — and I have to keep up a facade that suggests that I’m confident, unphased and strong, but it sure does hurt deeply.
Worse yet, in the face of all the families being tossed out on the streets, all the people who are hungry and lining up at shelters and soup kitchens, one needs to be mindful to argue their case, while not losing sight of human suffering on an entirely different plain, and one needs to keep one’s heart open, knowing that many of those suffering would take your rights away.
It’s really hard, it is. Just in case anyone wishes to be caddy or judgemental with my posting, I just ask that you be mindful that I live in one of the conservative enclaves of California, and we are doing the best we can. Hey, I’ve got to vent somewhere!
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I completely relate to Mike’s post. I was raised a good Fundamentalist boy and was in a “traditional” marriage for 12 disastrous years. The good news is I have three wonderful children, and my husband is a fantastic father whom the kids call “Daddy.”
The election tore our heavily-Mormon community apart, and people we thought were friends or good neighbors betrayed us. And the morning after the election, my 8-year-old daughter looked up at me, tears in her eyes, and said, “Does this mean Daddy has to move away?”
Of course, the only people who are moved by stories like mine, or others that are being told about the devastation Prop 8 has wreaked on families, are those who are pro-equality in the first place. The Yes on 8 folks couldn’t give a shit, and their campaign was not about “tradition” or “family” or “children” — it was about bigotry and hatred. And that hurts everyone.
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I meant semantics (and thank you for correcting the spelling, I knew it looked off) as in who does and does not Count as being a member of our community.
Gender”normative” people may not feel like transrights are apart of their human rights, but I disagree. After all, are white people not obligated to help see to it that people of color recieve their full human rights? Should straight people not care about whether or not same-sex couples can marry? I dont believe that any of us will achieve our full equality – for anything, marriage rights, adoption, hate crimes, employment, dont ask dont tell, immigration – until ALL of us achieve our rights.
I’m not saying that you necessarily have to be a transactivist if you are LGB but to suggest that our battles for equality, humanity and freedom are not the same battle is…limited, in my opinion.
I want trans people to help me achieve my full rights to marry whomever I want. We are a community and Trans people have been apart of our struggle since the beginning – despite our repeated and often cruel attempts to keep them out. Trans people stood along side gay people at Stonewall. Also, simply declaring yourself transgender and therefore in a “heterosexual” coupling – doesn’t mean our government recognizes it as heterosexual and will allow you to marry. Changing your state and federal documentation to represent a sex other than the one assigned at your birth is costly and difficult. Not every trans person wants or can afford surgeries that can cost upwards of $90,000.00.
I know that lots of gay and lesbian people seem to only care about the marriage battle – and the marriage battle certainly is a battle close to my heart – but it can not be our only focus. Marriage Equality is not the “fix-all” for gay and lesbian people.
The people who hate us can barely distinguish between gay and trans. If a butch lesbian is the victim of a hate crime, was she targeted for being a lesbian, or was she targeted because her expression of gender fell outside someone elses gender box?
I live in NY and we are going to have our own marriage battles over the next few years. If you live in NY as well – we are going to need Everyone. I want more than marriage equality in NY. I want the Dignity for All Students Act. I want the Gender Expression Non-Discrimination Act. I want the Healthy Teens Act. I want the organizations that provide services to our communities not to have their funding slashed. We need Everyone.
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@Lauren: Lauren, I think you’re either not reading my response or you’re misunderstanding. I’ll try to make it shorter.
The fight for Same Sex Marriage has some overlap with transgender civil-rights issues, both in groups effected and in rhetorical argument. It also has some overlap for gay accountants, lesbian opera singers and bisexual parking attendants. There’s not room on my Same Sex Marriage protest sign for all the different groups effected by the issue. So I just talk about the issue in as plain and simple terminology as possible. That’s usually the most effective way to explain something. This issue is effecting same sex couples who want to marry, no matter their color, religion, career, or gender.
No one is talking about ditching trans rights. I respect what you are saying but when you keep bringing it up, its a little grating because it assumes I don’t understand. I do understand what you are saying. I’m just disagreeing that Transgender Civil Rights must be discussed every time we discuss the Same Sex Marriage issue, which I believe is a separate issue, effecting different people (though there is some overlap).
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@Mark:
The world isn’t black and white.
“Our children are our future and stories like this one from a parent in Kern County provide us hope and inspiration. “My 6-year old daughter was very active in this election, and I am VERY proud to say she stood up to her OWN grandma and told her „mean people vote Yes on 8.‟ My daughter was very upset when she was told she could not vote. I received so much criticism for having my daughter involved, but that was completely her choice. If a six year old child will stand up to the people she loves, and teach her friends about equality, then I can do the same.—
From the above report. Just click on the link an read…
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@John from England(used to be just John but there are other John’s): Sorry, but no six-year-old has the capacity to form a valid opinion on any political issue.
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@Mike:
Mike, your story is heartbreaking. It brought a lump to my throat and tears to my eyes. I am just so appalled and overwhelmed by all of this. It is like a nightmare from which there is no awakening.
It just goes on and on and on without end. And, no one is stopping them. And, it WILL continue to get worse if these people are not stopped…and soon. This is exactly what was happening to the Jews in pre-Nazi Germany. Then Hitler came along, picked up the torch and ran with it. The rest, as they say, is history.
I have no words left to adequately describe people whose only seeming purpose in life is to divide, hurt and wreak havoc on people’s lives. If they continue on this path of destruction, I fear that they may very well bring down a calamity on their heads. And it will be well-deserved.
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@Mike:
Btw, I forgot to mention that my supposed gay friends here in Tampa no longer speak to me either because I support civil-rights and am outspoken about it.
Two years ago, I and a friend were literally thrown out of a Christmas Eve buffet at a gay friends house…simply for bringing up the subject of same-sex marriage being approved in Massachusetts. I was later told by another person in attendance, that it was neither the time nor the place!!!
This Christmas, I received a hate letter from a friend of some 10 years standing who literally told me to fuck off…simply for forwarding some HRC and Equality California email to him.
He could have hit the delete button or placed a filter on his email, but since he chose not to, he apparently is on a mission of his own.
I am considering selling my home here in redneck Florida and moving back to New York City where there are some educated, civil and sane people to live amongst.
Being rejected by my own people is more painful than I can bear.
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Why are Ts in the list for Prop8? A lot Ts are straight and, last I checked, straights can marry whomever they wish.
…. Unless they’re TS. Then YMMV.
Some states don’t change birth certificates, so only Gay TS people there can marry. And some states change birth certificates, but don’t recognise even their own documentation for marriage, so neither gay nor straight TS people can marry there. Same with Intersexed people.
Worse, any marriage involving a TS person may be retroactively invalidated, just by the insurance company (or whoever) choosing the right venue.
“Christie Lee can go to Houston, Texas and legally marry a man, but if she moves back to San Antonio, Texas, her legal marriage in Houston is now illegal. She could legally marry another woman in San Antonio though, and it would be a same-gender marriage because the State of Texas administratively recognizes her current gender as female. Harris County only accepts current gender for marriage licenses, and Bexar County only accepts original birth certificate gender for marriage licenses, not current gender.”
This is a series of losing battles TS people have been fighting for decades, with zero recognition, zero publicity, and almost zero help from the GLB(t) mainstream. I’m not surprised that you’re not aware of it, nor Kantaras vs Kataras, nor in re Estate of Gardiner.
Perhaps because many GLB TS people have taken advantage of the law in the most antedeluvian states, and gotten same-sex marriages there – which gives the Fundies fits. This could have been leveraged in the same-sex marriage debate, had not too many GLB(t) people seen TS people as “icky”.
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i’m surprised at the comments – this one is a real keeper. Come on, if you saw him out you’re telling me you wouldn’t think he’s hot. I just can’t believe that. Beautiful body, nice face. Body hair is nice, but a preference – I happen to like both.
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He’s no Luke Guldan but he’s alright (from the neck down at least).
I’ll submit a recommendation: Steven Strait. He’s got the face, the body and some of his more recent glam shots have hair in all the right places like these guys seem to want.
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You haters need a reality check. Even if he might not be your particular cup of tea, this guy is unspeakably hot.
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You all crack me up. If this guy walked up to you in a bar and said, lets go have sex, you’d be on your back in .5 seconds, not asking him if he has chest or underarm hair.
It seems like the bear lovers are the loudest whiners here. So, put me on the side of more models like this.
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you’re right, if he approached me in a bar i’d be like, “are you talking to me?!” however, although i applaud his obvious dedication to his physique, i really only like the smiling picture – and even then he’d need to lose the earrings.
and i can’t believe i’m saying this, but some body hair would be nice (maybe just a little armpit and happy trail). but i’ll deny that if you ever bring it up.
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“It seems like the bear lovers are the loudest whiners here. ”
Ain’t THAT the truth! It’s not like they have a preference; it’s like their preference is THE preference. It’s funny because the whole bear thing was supposed to be founded on nonjudgemental body issues, and they’ve ended up being the biggest body fascists of all.
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He’s got a fun smile: like he’s getting off? Some people, believe it or not don’t get chest hair to speak of-ever, it’s not always wax. Some people also have nipples that are large and very stimulus active; not me; I could punch somebody who attacks mine.
The armpits though? I think even women hve hairy pits. Sometimes chests too, i’m sure.
Quit bitchin’ andimagine roling around with him once even. “Get it while ya can” J Joplin.
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After I read the article about the young white man being more desireable then the blah, blah, blah… lol.
Jakub is good looking. I don’t need hair to lick the any part of that body. Some people look better without hair, some people don’t. Everyone doesn’t need to have body hair, while again, not everyone needs to look like they the opposite. If you don’t like the lookies, then find a good porn site that suites your choice. A man who is hot, still is a man who is hot…regardless of if they have hair or not. I happen to like both but it depends on the person.
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So gorgeous !
found some extra pics here
http://www.gaybuzz.fr/2008/11/.....b-stefano/
and
http://www.gaybuzz.fr/2008/10/.....la-douche/
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Hey guys
All of photos of him is here:
http://deusesperfeitos.blogspo.....%20Stefano
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Jakub Stefano el salvador
por Oscar Portela
Tú me salvas Jakub, tú me redimes.
De mi mismo me ocultas. El mundo es solo velo.
Entre tus piernas ahora duermo
Un infinito sueño y soy uno contigo
Oh Divino y perfecto reparador asilo.
Así tu ingle donde se curva el universo
Y los ángeles loan mi boca me transporta
A ser un ave que liba de tus néctares
Preciosos cuando mi siembra cae
Sobre sobre tu carne en el sueño febril y
Ardiente con que tomas mi carne y revelas
Los misterios del cosmos y del vino.
Todas las cuerdas de tu cuerpo
Son vibraciones de la carne, reveladas
En el fundido de oro de tus músculos
Donde canta la alondra el infinito asombro
De la pasión que arde en el profundo
Océano de la falta de nombres.
Yo ya no soy en mí: soy lo abierto y el velo
Que surge de tus miembros que ocultan prestos
El tesoro que Jasón rabdomante buscara
Tras los pliegues de las Islas Radiantes.
Así te ocultas y revelas ocultándome en ti como
La profecía de un alba revelada en el grito
Y el pasmo del abrazo en el que mueres
Y resucitas trayéndome contigo nuevamente
Hacia el extrañamiento inquieto del amor.
Oh coloso fundido en bronce y oro.
Oh Dios e hijo de los Dioses: mis brazos de tímido
Mortal sobre tus piernas salmodian la osadía
De subir hacia ti, hacia tus cimas,
Y siempre oculto en la pasión que mata
Me llevas hacia el jardín donde las abras
Me revelan océanos de fuego y se abren
Como flores carnívoras hacia el juego en que
Como serpiente me abro hasta ser habitado
Por el Dios donde comienzan tiempo y mundo
En el ahogo del socavón primero
Donde ya no estas más, donde tampoco estoy,
Porque cenizas somos llevados por el viento
Hasta el umbral de los renacimientos.
Tú me salvas ahora, el mundo salvas
Y la individuación perece en el fundido
De tu cuerpo en el mío, ya serpientes que fundan
El cosmos por amor al fuego y la lascivia.
Oscar Portela
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you guys should check out the burlington free press website. audette now says he is not sure how to vote. this thing is killing me. it’s like prop 8 all over again…