Undoubtedly heeding the advice of a highly compensated publicist, Eurovision winner Måns Zelmerlöw has appeared naked on the cover of a gay magazine following “controversial” (see: homophobic) remarks that sex between two men is “unnatural.”
This seems to be a popular strategy this week — say some stupid things about gay people, atone for them by doing something that looks pro-gay.
Yesterday, homophobe and all-around not nice guy Tyson Fury thought he could erase comparing gay people to pedophiles by simply kissing a guy on the cheek. Nice try.
Related: Boxer Tyson Fury Explores His Internalized Homophobia By Kissing Gay Man
How about we take this to the next level?
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Zelmerlöw’s efforts are decidedly more thought out.
Since his 2014 appearance on a Swedish cooking show in which he stunned the other guests with an unsavory recipe of ignorant homophobic comments, the singer has profusely apologized and has worked with LGBT groups.
His Gay Times naked cover shoot is the latest olive branch. He is one of four cover models posing naked to raise awareness of prostate cancer.
Here is the full cover featuring Zelmerlöw:
And just for fun, here’s the version with gay rugby union player Sam Stanley:
h/t PinkNews
Steven James Tait
Cos he got paid £££ ��� $$$ ¥¥¥
Stephan Mulward
fool
Alex Adlam
Shame on the magazine for paying him
Stephan Mulward
what is unnatural about being gay?
Douglas Schlitz
Money talks and bullshit walks, oh well !
Xzamilio
Lord help me, but I like the homophobe’s cover more. No secret lusting after a straight guy, I promise, but aesthetically, he looks more rugged, the man-hair, the less-tweezed eyebrows than the rugby player. Sam Stanley is amazing, but I would have used a pic of Keegan Hirst as a better side by side.
But that was aesthetics… Zelmerlow is doing the routine backtracking and throwing those mean gays some bread crumbs. It’s the same shit Liam Payne did because he was getting accused of being homophobic after jumping on the Duck Dynasty bandwagon (so glad that pop culture moment has faded). It looks like he has tried to learn, so… meh. But Sam Stanley… if he had full black beard, I would stick my dick through my laptop!!
Stache
@Stephan Mulward: It usually comes from Christian brainwashing. Ironic them talking about what is natural though.
Travis Zepp
unnatural just means it tastes good! Like most food these days!
D P
@Xzamilio: – Don’t worry, you’re not alone. I haven’t seen whatever the controversial commentary was, so I don’t have an aversion to the man. And, personally, I too would go for Zelmerlow. I wouldn’t push the other guy out of bed, certainly, but my first attraction goes to Zelmerlow.
And keep in mind, those who protest most loudly about the gay lifestyle may be protesting that which they are attracted to, but cannot reconcile. YET.
I speak from experience.
Bryguyf69
As a young Swede in the arts with highly educated parents (a professor and surgeon), one wouldn’t expect him to be homophobic. And he’s not. At worst, he is (or was?) heterocentric. Basically, he said that while there is nothing wrong with homosexuality, it is less natural than heterosexuality because it doesn’t propagate the species. It was a misguided and misinformed scientific statement without any intent to moralize. He clearly said that there is nothing wrong with homosexuality. Indeed, some of his biggest defenders are gay (see article below), who note that he supported many gay events way before the controversy.
The fact that homosexuality was discussed on a cooking program shows how normal the Swedes view the topic. Also, as an aside, some research suggest that homosexuality is Nature’s way to limit population growth in times of stress, i.e. droughts, famine, etc. In other words, gays help save Humanity, not destroy it as homophobes claim.
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/03/18/comment-swedish-eurovision-star-shouldnt-get-nul-points-for-his-comments-about-gays/
moldisdelicious
Yep… apparently the magazine doesn’t respect it’s audience or saying that it’s audience has no self respect and that they’re shallow where they will embrace a guy that has no respect for them.
If it were a nonwhite or someone that didn’t fit the ideal standards of beauty the gay media like queerty like to push constantly, then he wouldn’t even get the chance to get the cover or even get an article or even be acknowledge. They already would be looking down on him with their arrogance. The only time these fuckers are willing to let homophobia slide or when it’s not an issue if it’s some straight white guy that is attractive. Then they’re ready to go like “he’s secretively gay” or he’s been “misguided”. They’re ready to forgive him. Case in point, Nick Gruber. Someone queerty should be very familiar with.
moldisdelicious
@Bryguyf69:
Making excuses for him already huh? Bet you if it was a black person or nonwhite person that said the same thing, you would find every excuse to condemn him, the whole group and whatever. Guys like you are exactly what’s wrong with the gay community. You’re so narcissistic that you try to twist things to fit your already narrowview point of the world.
We are talking about him. Why are you talking about Sweden and etc? There are homophobes and ignorant people in Sweden too.
Jesse Cerna
Hypocrite
Xzamilio
Delicious Mold isn’t lying, though.
enlightenone
Pathetic, the mazagine (homos in heat) and the jackass, selling their souls to the devil!
Sand Nierenberg
He should know after he gave s blow job be gone now loser
Avery Alvarez
I’m gonna have to agree with @Bryguyf69:. I remember really paying attention to this story during Eurovision.
He said something stupid. The others guests politely tried to give him an out – They said, “you mean homosexuality is less common, not less natural”, and he took that out and agreed he misspoke.
Let’s not be radical leftist SJWs and cast someone out just because they said one thing wrong, or didn’t get some one of your several hundred pronouns or gender identities right.
jockboy1986
@moldisdelicious: Another typical personal attack without regards for evidence, or even logic. How pathetic. You want to be on topic? How about actually doing some research and discuss the cooking interview? As for asking why discuss Sweden, try to learn some Sociology and statistical inference. Duh.
RyanMBecker
@Avery Alvarez: I agree with you and @Bryguyf69. If he had a history of homophobia, I’d be more critical. But the evidence suggests he’s gay-friendly. And a gay Swedish friend who watched the segment echos what you said. It was a great opportunity to educate, not condemn. It’s too bad so many AMERICANS are reacting without having seen the show or even researched the context. My Swedish friend told me that there is no condemnation against him in Scandinavia.
RyanMBecker
@moldisdelicious: LOL. Typical reactive rant without context or evidence.
moldisdelicious
@jockboy1986:
You mad because you know that what i said is true about insecure losers like you. Calling yourself jock boy ready to beg and bend over for guys like him who look down on you already for being gay looking for that acceptance and validation. It wouldn’t matter if it were an overweight guy or a black guy but since it’s some young white guy who you feel is attractive, you’re ready to tolerate whatever, make excuses for him and etc. I have no respect for lames like you. You are a sellout.
moldisdelicious
@RyanMBecker:
I know what I’m talking about. You’re exactly doing it what I’m talking about. You’re just not smart enough to realize it. Apparently the magazine feels that you’re also stupid, shallow and have no self respect either so….
meghanada
@Bryguyf69:
“Basically, he said that while there is nothing wrong with homosexuality”
He didn’t say that, and he implied he was wrong. But keep lying, gotta fool people that Sweden is some sort of progressive paradise. It’s not like there’s anything to Sweden besides these myths, after all.
meghanada
*he implied it was wrong
pattygale
It should be called the Nick Jonas Bamboozle. Suckers fall for it every time. ?
Brian
It’s really interesting – but not surprising – that a “gay” magazine would glamorize a person with anti-gay views on its cover. Keep in mind that a lot of these “gay” magazines are not actually owned by gay people. Most of them are owned by men who identify as straight. Same goes for the “women’s” magazines.
We’re all being manipulated by the media – just be aware of that.
AHappyMom
@meghanada: What is your source of information? I was actually in Gothenburg at the time visiting friends. Although I didn’t see the show, I read that he actually did add that there was nothing wrong with homosexuality. Since you claim he didn’t, what’s your source? Also, we had gay friends there and they didn’t think he was homophobic.
jasoncoxz
Please he said something stupid on a tv-show slightly drunk (they drink in that show)….tell me who hasn’t said something stupid and regretted it (sorry for my bad english)…Swedens gay populations have forgiven him long time ago, he has showed all that he is not homophobic!
And he didn’t not get paid ….it is 4 charity! The Swedish gay paper QX didn´t even mention it when they talked to him about he posing nude for a gay magazin! Because it’s not an issue any longer! In fact he is extremely popular among gay over here…AND he will be one of two anchorman/woman in next years Eurovision song contest i Stockholm!
AHappyMom
It’s really a shame that people are judging Måns instead of the comment, and often out of ignorance. It’s clear from some of these postings that the posters don’t know anything about him, Swedish/Nordic culture or what was actually said, and in what context. It’s very telling that there was no gay outrage against him in Sweden or most of Europe, as I recall. Also revealing is that the people who defended him here shows some knowledge of the topic, i.e. Avery Alvarez. Haters like Meghanada is simply factually wrong. Just do a search, especially in Swedish,
chuck
It’s gotten to the point I think heterosexuality is a myth. I have met countless married men that really just want to be f***ed. Beside that all men past a certain age don’t care what sex they’re getting head from. It’s all just posturing.
moldisdelicious
@AHappyMom:
Blah blah blah. I’ve read about his story and it makes me even wonder even further why you’re defending him. It just further confirms how shallow minded and gullible folks are where they don’t understand what prejudice is.
Appearing at some gay events naked on some swinging ball doesnt mean shit especially when he is a singer that needs all the promo and fans he can get. The worst part about the whole mess is that he said that comment after he did all that. If he really gave a fuck or didn’t mean what he said, he would have never said it in the first place especially doing all that promo and appearing in gay galas or whatever you call them. He should be well aware of homophobia and etc. It’s clear that he certainly wasn’t bring genuine to begin with and was only doing all that to get ahead. Apparently, his ass got exposed and he’s doing all this as damage control like a true guilty person that got caught redhanded. If he really want homophobic. He wouldn’t feel the need to go all out proving something. Just take your loss, apologize and move on.
moldisdelicious
@AHappyMom:
You clearly don’t know how the concept of prejudice works. Just because someone smiles in your face, claims that they are down with gay rights and whatever doesn’t mean that they really feel that way. He’s a perfect example. It’s clear a lot of you don’t know what prejudice is or understand the concept of how it works. A lot of you guys are white and let’s face it, as white males, you guys are very unlikely to face discrimination like that where it affects your life on a level where it impacts it deeply. Being gay is different where it affects you when people know about that shit. You can hide being gay but you can’t hide being a white male though.
expressionlessanger
@meghanada: If you’re going to post, at least get your facts right. Every article that bothered to quote or paraphrase him has stated that he said nothing is wrong with homosexuality. Is the press wrong? Where did you get your facts? Since you’re too lazy to do some research, I’ll do you the favor. “…THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH IT, but of course, more natural is that men and women make children together.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWhiaG5SFi4
expressionlessanger
@AHappyMom: I agree. People are inappropriately imposing their own prejudices and [American] experiences onto this. That’s normal but most are also too lazy to research the specifics before mouthing off. In fact, most had probably never heard of him or the controversy before this woeful blog. It doesn’t even quote or paraphrase the conversation. It’s no wonder Europeans think Americans are myopic and ignorant.
Tracy Pope
@expressionlessanger: That would be particularly true if they read the comments on this blog. It is apparent a lot of what was said here was out of complete ignorance about anything except their own experience/preconceived ideas. A little off topic here but I think Paulina Gagarina was better at Eurovision 😉
Bryguyf69
@expressionlessanger: Thanks for uploading the video. It shows how misleading, misinformed and sensationalistic this blog was. For example, the blogger states, “he stunned the other guests with an unsavory recipe of ignorant homophobic comments.” I don’t see any “stunned” guests in that footage. As @A very Alvarez points out above, the other guests simply asked him to clarify. Also negligent is that the blogger didn’t bother to quote Mans. If he did, people would see that it simply wasn’t that bad. In fact, this supposed homophobia isn’t even news. The only news is that he’s posing nude. And there’s no indication that he’s doing so as an “olive branch” or atonement. Too bad so many of the ignorant comments bought into that angle. He’s doing it for the publicity, period, and has nothing to do with the cooking comment.
dean3000
So many great gay people are ignored yet some self hating masochist at gt thinks this is a good idea. Truly pathetic idea by some silly “fag”. That what he’ll be called when he leaves the room
dean3000
@expressionlessanger: actually homosexuality is quite normal too. Before we were vilified we were seen as a blessing as we are mostly the creators and peacemakers who don’t compete with other men for mates. So he’s wrong their are no tiers of normality
dean3000
@AHappyMom: you’re wrong. Swedes can be anti gay too Sweden isn’t some gay utopia
Bryguyf69
Here is Mans Zelmerlöw saying that he can see himself dating a man. I’ve cued the video to where the topic is discussed. Rewind to the beginning if you want to see the entire interview. As an aside, I’m really impressed by how well Scandinavians speak English — often, better than Americans. My ex went to medical school and did her residency there and said communication was never a problem.
https://youtu.be/gyxB6xrsRmU?t=56s
D P
@Bryguyf69: – Yay! Thank you for putting that up there.
Bryguyf69
@dean3000 wrote:
“@AHappyMom: you’re wrong. Swedes can be anti gay too Sweden isn’t some gay utopia”
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What are you talking about? Where did @AHappyMom or anyone else say that Swedes can’t be anti-gay? Please quote. It’s truly amazing how the haters seem separated from reality and facts.
Bryguyf69
Here is Måns Zelmerlöw saying how great Guy Sebastian looked in the gym. Sebastian is a Malaysian-Australian who represented Australia at Eurovision. If Zelmerlöw is truly homophobic, would he make comments like these — at one of the most watched press conferences in the world? If anything, he seems truly aware and appreciative of his gay fanbase, and completely comfortable with the concept of gay attraction. I’ve cued the video to 23:07, where the comment is. The entire event was 36 mins long.
https://youtu.be/Yw2YkCz9ovc?t=23m07s
Bryguyf69
@D P: No problem! if you watch the beginning of the interview, you’d see that he raves about the stage. The special effects used in his performance were truly spectacular. In fact, I don’t remember ever seeing so much interaction between performer and computers in a Eurovision performance. Here it is. Great voice too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sGOwFVUU0I
queertymakeshomophobesofeverybodyforever
SERIOUSLY. STOP. IT. CANT PEOPLE ATONE FOR THEIR MISTAKES YOU SHITTY WANNABE MAGAZINE!!! and all of your sad commenting readers who tries to be sassy… GET REAL. YOU dont solve any of your fucking problems by not giving others a second chance. BESIDES YOURE NOT SWEDISH YOURE AMERICAN AND AMERICANS ARE STUPID AS F*CK and i think that shows pretty clearly in this comment section how friggin ignorant you are making a homophobe of someone whos been at the LGBT community since the start of his career, who cares if he thought it wasnt AS natural as same sex, who the fuckeryfuck gives a fuck. YOU DO you saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad single beings. Quuerty never see a genuine being unless it fucks you right up your shitty ass.
moldisdelicious
This is sad. Some of you guys need to learn the value of self respect and what homophobia is. Don’t see how any self respecting gay person can claim he’s not homophobic saying that being gay is not normal and be gullible enough to not see that hes only doing this flux I support the gays bs for his music career. Imaging if lady Gaga or Madonna said what he said after the fact they did all this i support gay people and shit. There wouldn’t even be a debate. Willing to let some guy play you out because he’s cute to you. Sad.
moldisdelicious
@queertymakeshomophobesofeverybodyforever:
He said that comment in march of this year. Have some respect and quit trying telling others to lower their standards to make yourself feel comfortable.
If you allow him to get a pass, you better give everybody a pass too and I mean everybody. If you can’t do that, then you need to stop talking because you obviously don’t know wtf you’re saying.
queertymakeshomophobesofeverybodyforever
@moldisdelicious i think its more than obvious he is not a homophobe, YES we ALL have our perks and say stupid things that can be hurtful to a group of people, but if YOU are not willing to forgive those who commits a genuine mistake, well, then im sorry you were born stupid because its not going to progress things forwards. I as a gay man feel genuinely sorry for Nash Grier as its very clear that the gay community, specifically the overly sensitive americans will NEVER forgive him, He is a DUMB kid who said a VILE thing, SHALL WE THROW STONES ON THEM!? i mean, we should HAIL somebody who fucking licks our feets for forgiveness. I feel sorry for Nash because people like YOU will Judge him until he dies, no matter what he does, if he fucks a dude, or preach in church about same sex marriage, people like minded like you would just say “oh hes just doing this to sell stuff” give me a break.
GayEGO
@Bryguyf69: Well perhaps we gays were created to control procreation to prevent over-population. Society is learning, little by little, that we are a normal part of civilization which is why marriage equality is advancing in many western countries.
Giancarlo85
I don’t get the endless flow of bullshit from moldybread. The guy changed his mind and apologized. You do realize we only got this far with equality because people changed their minds? Moldybread needs to disappear.
Giancarlo85
@Bryguyf69: I really don’t get the uproar on here. People have said stupid things. When I was a teenager I didn’t even accept myself and made stupid statements myself about gay people.
People need to get over it. They aren’t the center of the world. Of course, moldystalebread is going to continue posting his venom vilifying this guy for something he said when he was a dumb kid. People grow up and their minds change.
SonOfKings
@moldisdelicious: You are correct. We do tend to be more willing to forgive the transgressions of those whom we find attractive. Particularly when they show deference after the fact. But as men, we really shouldn’t feel guilty of being sexually turned of the straight punks and thugs that we also despise. Our sexuality is not a moral compass. It’s mostly a tool to forge alliances, manipulate potential rivals, and ALWAYS gain advantage. At the end of the day, we’ve got homophobic straight bros stripping for us, posing on our magazines, and catering to our whims. We have won again, naturally. That’s why evolution spared our kind to begin with. Because we can play the game and come out ahead.
Desert Boy
Eurovision. Isn’t that the so-called “talent show” where one year a Kazoo player won?
Bryguyf69
Here is Måns Zelmerlöw addressing the homophobia issue at the same press conference. I’m really impressed by how comfortable he seems answering the question. There was no defensiveness at all. I can imagine how annoying it can be to revisit the same topic over and over. As a counterexample, remember Chris Brown answering questions about his assault on Rihanna? He got so pissed that he threw a chair out the window of ABC offices. BTW, most of the journalists were older. When I saw how young and cute that blond journalist was, I thought, he must be gay. And sure enough, he asked the gay question. 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw2YkCz9ovc&feature=youtu.be&t=28m40s
Bryguyf69
@Giancarlo85: Exactly. What’s worse is that the haters seem ignorant and misinformed about the topic. They want to talk societal homophobia when the issue is Måns Zelmerlöw. To generalize and project a societal problem onto him is as bad as homophobes who negatively generalize about gays. Måns is an individual, and this is a specific incident. And frankly, all the available evidence indicates that he is gay-friendly. I wouldn’t even say he “reformed” since the original statement was so mild. At worst, he was heterocentric and misinformed (thinking that everyone must reproduce) but I wouldn’t have labeled him homophobic, which is an aversion to gays (again, he clearly said that there was nothing wrong with homosexuality).
Regardless, it’s a non-issue — except in the mind of this Queerty blogger and self-righteous people who enjoy being angry.
Bryguyf69
@Giancarlo85 wrote: “Of course, moldystalebread is going to continue posting his venom vilifying this guy”
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Yes, @moldisdelicious will continue to rant no matter what evidence or logic is available. That’s why, in another blog, a user told me to just ignore him, and it’s exactly what I’m doing. In fact, I don’t even read his followup posts because I know they’ll add nothing to the topic. They’re mostly just personal attacks and judgmental pseudopsycho labeling (“Narcissistic”, and of course, anyone who disagrees with him is automatically “self-hating”). Frankly, I feel sorry for the guy. How bitter his life must be to have to justify his existence by demeaning others! Oh well. Anyway, my advice is to just ignore him. Of course, to his delusional ego, letting him have the last word is seen as validation. Whatever.
Philigree
@Bryguyf69: ugh. thank you for pulling out the receipts. unfortunately, people like @moldisdelicious are too INSECURE to accept their analytical failings and will continue to spew unnecessary hate just to project “intelligence”. i mean, just look at the way s/he responds to people. baseless personal attacks, twisted facts… all are but signs of a mind desperate to project a level of intelligence that isn’t there.
just pay the thing no mind. his/her life will most likely not progress beyond butthurt online arguments like these because in real life, such reasoning and demeanor just won’t cut it. sad but true.
Philigree
@moldisdelicious: lol. i know you’re trying to sound smart. but the mere fact you’re willing to resort to these baseless insults toward other users, while proclaiming how “right” you are because your shaky logic can’t even project that for you does nothing but suggest your lack of intelligence. i pity you because i’m not fond of the things that would lead people to such pseudo-intellectual desperations.
Bryguyf69
That press conference was even GAYer than I had thought. I finally had a chance to watch it all and the very first question was gay! It says a lot about how gay-friendly Europe, the European press and Eurovision are. And again I ask, why are all the gay journalists so cute? 🙂 That fact that Mans won a gay award, as stated by this first journalist, proves that he’s not seen as homophobic. I’ve cued the video for the first question. And for those who don’t know, that’s a doll of the laser-drawn stick figure in his performance (it’s linked above. Watch it; it’s amazing). It’s represents Man at 10y/o, when he was bullied.
https://youtu.be/Yw2YkCz9ovc?t=5m43s
Bryguyf69
Here Mans explains that the laser-generated figure in his performance is him at 10 y/o. He then tells a somewhat homoerotic story about how a boy from another school saved him from bullying and loneliness. And that essentially is what the winning song, “Heroes,” and the performance mean to him. In the performance, the adult Mans plays that hero of a friend. Doesn’t this sound like the plot of a gay coming-of-age story? He even said that they played tennis together… which gives rise to the obligatory locker room scene! Anyway, watch his amazing performance. It’s attached to one of my previous posts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw2YkCz9ovc&feature=youtu.be&t=12m53s
Bryguyf69
Here, Mans gives advice to those who are bullied, telling people they should not be afraid of being their true self. Damn, not only is Mans NOT homophobic, but it’s clear why he’s a gay icon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw2YkCz9ovc&feature=youtu.be&t=31m31s
Bryguyf69
Here. Mams is asked what message he wants to send with his winning song, “Heroes.” He replies, “We are all heroes, no matter who we are, WHO WE LOVE, or what we believe in.” That middle criterion, “WHO WE LOVE,” is obviously about gays. He just won Eurovision and no musician needs gay support to be successful. Hence including gay love in a spontaneous answer strikes me as very sincere and heartfelt. No doubt about it, Mans can even be considered a gay activist, which is why he has won gay awards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw2YkCz9ovc&feature=youtu.be&t=22m00s
Bryguyf69
FINALLY, a French journalist (who was just taught some dance moves by Mans) asks if there was any truth to the rumors that Mans plans to marry gay drag queen, Conchita Wurst(!!!). With0ut pause, Mans replied, “Yes, the wedding will be in June.” Wurst is the bearded drag queen who won last year’s Eurovision, angering many conservatives. It was a momentous victory because the winner is chosen by all participating countries. In other words, approval of Wurst’s identity as an openly-gay drag queen was not simply regional. Amazingly, Wurst was not the first transgender winner. If I’m not mistaken, Israel had a M-to-F singer in the 80’s.
Okay, if anyone is still not convinced that Mans is not homophobic, then it’s hopeless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw2YkCz9ovc&feature=youtu.be&t=17m35s
queertymakeshomophobesofeverybodyforever
@Bryguyf69 Thanks for posting these and setting the record straight, perhaps now some slooooow people can finally catch up with reality, that Måns is a smart and goodhearted person who is accepting of everyone. <3
Giancarlo85
@Bryguyf69: I used to be homophobic. Why? I couldn’t accept the fact that I was gay. I couldn’t even bear the thought of being the way I am. Over time I had to learn to accept myself. I made some incredibly insensitive and stupid remarks to someone in high school… who I later contacted in my freshman year of college to apologize. And I still regret what I said to this day. He basically laughed it off and said he knew I was gay. On top of it, I ended up going out with him because we were in the same city for college. Funny how that works out lol!
@Bryguyf69: Moldybread has the ego the size of the republican party. He’ll never admit he’s wrong about anything. He’ll simply vanish after the various videos you have posted.
@SonOfKings: Bullshit. I never said anything about this man being attractive. What I do know is he has geniunely changed his mind. People like you and moldybread are a cancer in our community. Do you realize many people thought the same way he used to think in this country? MANY PEOPLE CHANGED and OPENED their minds! Can you accept that? Or is an attitude shift unacceptable to you? And this has nothing to do with someone being attractive, as I’m talking about the entire attitude of entire countries (the US, Sweden, other Western nations, etc).
Giancarlo85
By the way, if we didn’t have the major attitude shifts in the US and other Western countries, we wouldn’t have had the transformation and opening of society. We would have never been accepted. One of my uncle’s was also a big homophobe and always made jokes about gay people, until he found out about me. He said he was sorry and now is one of my biggest supporters. When I recently had a major job change (with a major salary increase), he was one of the first to call me to congratulate me.
SonOfKings, Moldybread and other self repressed half wits need to pick up a history book and accept the fact that people can change their perceptions. People are not pre-programmed robots.
moldisdelicious
@SonOfKings:
look, man.
i’m gonna be 100 percent honest. i feel that a lot of you guys in here don’t know what it is to face discrimination to the point where it literally affects your lives. no doubt that homophobia, gay people being discriminated against and the whole nine exists, we all know that but one thing that i’ve noticed the differences between gay men especially white males in general compared to women, black people and other nonwhites, and basically other discriminated people is that a lot of gay people tend to not understand how prejudice and discrimination works.
yeah, homophobia simply doesn’t go away or doesn’t exist because someone doesn’t tell you right to your face that you’re a gay slur. it also doesn’t go away because the government gives you some of your civil rights. homophobia is embedded culturally in society. it’s so deeply embedded that a good number of gay people are also homophobic but tend to not realize it as they support homophobic attitudes, have homophobic speech and tend to not understand the history of it and etc. i sense a lot of disillusionment and false reality. we are still gay people living in a homophobic world. it doesn’t matter if where we are at. to say that swedish people aren’t homophobic because the government allowed some rights is bullshit. you should expect people to be that way regardless. doesn’t mean that you should be paranoid but it just means you should be well aware to the point where you should expect it. to say that this guy didn’t mean it is bullshit. he DID mean it. he thinks that being gay is not normal. him doing some shit for gay pride events and etc doesn’t mean a fucking thing. just like having a straight person having gay friends, saying that he supports gay people having civil rights and etc doesn’t mean that they can’t be homophobic. i’ve seen this plenty of times.
being proud of being gay has nothing to do with coming out the closet to everyone you know, acting a certain way that is associated with being gay and etc. it has to do with acknowledging who you are and respecting yourself. you don’t have to destroy yourself for being gay nor your peers.
this is reality. hate to say it but homophobia isn’t going to go anywhere. i don’t care how much rights they allow gay people to have or how many people claim that they’re not homophobic. it’s a lot deeper than what someone shows on the outside. you don’t know how they feel or what they are thinking on the inside. he can be making fun of you or making fun of you for being gay behind your back. you don’t know. the fact that he even said such a comment, you would be real foolish to say that it’s unlikely that dude is homophobic.
moldisdelicious
@Giancarlo85:
so says that guy that literally@Philigree:
you actually don’t know me.
you know what’s sad.
how many gay people are basically living on the computer basically trying to use the internet as a way to build themselves up to the point where they’re making irrational assumptions on people they don’t even know. if you had a life, you wouldn’t be worried about total strangers that don’t give a fuck about you or your existence. like i care about being embraced by some strangers who probably could be some fucking bots or homophobes trolling.
Giancarlo85
@moldisdelicious: You really can’t help the way you are. For me it’s being gay. I can’t change that. For you, it’s being full of bullshit. That just comes naturally to you.
Your post is a rambling mess that shows how much of a self absorbed narcissist you really are. You have no right to speak for others and you don’t have any right to tell what others think or don’t.
You’re a mess. Your posts are a mess. Sometimes I may make a grammar mistake or two, but did you write that post while drunk? Of course homophobia isn’t going anywhere you blowhard… but there are ways to reduce and mitigate it.
Giancarlo85
@moldisdelicious: I just love it how you suggest some people can’t change and they’ll always be homophobic. You really are foaming at the mouth… and your attitude towards other human beings is disgusting. I wonder… people can stop being assholes. Maybe you can too!
moldisdelicious
@Giancarlo85:
womp womp womp.
do you have a life? seriously asking.
please believe me when i say this. i do not care about you and your opinion. keep talking, breh. you really think i’m upset or looking for your approval. who are you to begin with?
instead of living on the comment section of this site, try going offline and doing something. fighting me isn’t going to get you anywhere. it certainly isn’t going to make you appear to be smart. you failed at that already.
this dude is so lame that he’s ready to claim that he’s “better” than me because of some grammatical errors. lol. time to get off the computer. it’s the weekend, breh. do something.
moldisdelicious
@Giancarlo85:
last time i checked, i was on an anonymous commenter section. for all i know, you may not even exist. i didn’t know i had to behave a certain way over the computer.
and you’re the last person to talk about attitude when that’s your mo. i’ve seen more than enough people in here basically saying how they’re surprised that you’re still posting on here and i’ve seen comments from you wishing death on people and etc because you don’t agree with them. so you can kiss my ass with that bullshit.
moldisdelicious
@Bryguyf69:
isn’t that what you’re doing? all these lames in real life going online to find the voice they don’t have in person. lol
Giancarlo85
@moldisdelicious: Your posts are such a borefest. You never say anything new and you keep recycling the same garbage over and over again. If you don’t care about me or my opinion, you sure are replying to me a lot. You live off of bullshit. That’s why you’re on here more than me. You’re on here day after day. I work on weekdays. I’m enjoying my time off.
Get a life, kid.
Giancarlo85
@moldisdelicious: Oh look… it’s the wannabe internet tough guy keyboard warrior.
moldisdelicious
@Giancarlo85:
you sound like you ran out of things to say talking about me recycling words and now telling lies. we both know that you comment on the weekdays too like what you did last week. i guess my words must have some truth in them if you feel some sense of shame where you have to lie.
i don’t see much people in here vouching for you at all. used to think that some posters in here were hating on you for no reason but now, i can see why.
Giancarlo85
@moldisdelicious: I don’t think so. I may comment after work, but not during. You are an impulsive liar. You are not even good at lying. Nobody likes any of the crap you write.
Oh and keep up the tough guy routine. People support me on here. But that is ironic you are going after me now about that, considering you were arguing with several others in this article. I think you are as blind as a bat, with half the intelligence. You are as dumb as a rock. Besides what does a perpetual cowardly closetcase like you know about what othwrs think?
Giancarlo85
Typical. This stupid vindictive jackass can’t help but embarrass himself. He attacks people who clearly and genuinely changed their minds, and now is going after other gay people. This clown has several screws loose. Moldybread tends to argue with everyone, yet claims I get attacked by others on here. Lol the irony!
I only argue with right wing trolls and I eviscerate their arguments. Look at what I did to Alistair… Embarrassed multiple times.
Luis
I watched his Eurovision performance and the prize ceremony when he clearly stated that “we are the winners, no matter who you love”. It was clear to me that he regretted any previous homophobic comments.
I believe someone can learn, rethink, apologise, and we should give credit to his effort to make things right. The remarks on the TV show are usually taken out of context. Will he ever be forgiven by a couple of badly chosen words? How many pro-gay things does he need to do?
Giancarlo85
Another disappeared post. Just another example of the log cabin republicans hacking of this site. I do not know why I even care to post. It really sucks when you post with your cellphone.
Bryguyf69
@Luis: You are yet another example of someone who has actual knowledge of the topic, and supports Mans. It’s pretty clear that the haters here are ignorant of the situation and rely solely on this misleading blog.
Then you have reactive morons like @moldisdelicious who couldn’t care less about the facts, and just wants to reinforce his victim mentality.
Bryguyf69
@Giancarlo85:
“Another disappeared post. Just another example of the log cabin republicans hacking of this site. I do not know why I even care to post. It really sucks when you post with your cellphone.”
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Sorry to hear that. I don’t think it’s intentional censorship, however. Unless the system warns you that the post is being held for a possible violation, i.e. banned words, you’re probably a victim of a system glitch. Some combination of symbols, i.e. punctuation marks, are [mis]interpreted as system instructions so the entire post goes to some black hole. I’ve had posts disappear but when I repost with different paragraphing, the problem disappears. Sometime rearranging the sentences work, even though the words are identical. Weird!
Bryguyf69
@Giancarlo85:
If you were replying to @moldisdelicious, don’t waste your time and energy! When I see his name on top of a post, I just skip it. I mean, why bother? Future readers of these posts won;t think any less of you for not replying after reading his rants. I worked on a psych ward and with some patients, you just let them rant and insult you until they tire out.
Yeah, posting on cellphones and tablets suck. You should try an add-on like Lazarus for Firefox. It records all your entries for repeating, if necessary. I’m lucky to be in the lab today, where we’re encouraged to do personal computing while we wait for experiments to finish. The tradeoff is that we’re often here until 8-midnight.
moldisdelicious
I stand by what I said. I’m not shallow minded where my thinking can be swayed how hood or bad somebody looks. It’s clear as day that the only reason why Bryguy69 who name and past posts already seems to imply that he seems to be way too preoccupied on sex as well as others is because they want to have sex with or are very attracted to the guy in question. It’s clear that these guys are judging the situation from a biased standpoint trying to find every excuse in the book to defend him. It’s also clear that if a man who wasn’t attractive to them, was of a certain ethnicity, background, skin color and etc, they would have a different opinion all together.
Now they want to claim that guys like me are haters and have a victim mentality for thinking differently. They probably think I’m a hater too if I don’t think he’s attractive or aren’t all drooling over his looks. Pathetic.
moldisdelicious
It’s one thing if you want to have sex with the guy, cool but don’t try to use that as a reason to go like he aint homophobic and pulling up clips with dude saying this and that to discount what he said. It’s only just confirming what he said. He himself admitted he was wrong and is doing this as a form of apology. So how you look trying to pull up old clips from whenever trying to say he was never homophobic.
Giancarlo85
@moldisdelicious: You are incredibly narrow minded and pathetic. You simply cannot accept people can change and their attitudes and mindsets change. You are an ignorant donkey and you have the intelligence of a gnat. Please be gone. You are nothing more than a self repressed alienating vindictive little kid who has no clue about the world around him.
@moldisdelicious: Oh bullshit. You’re spouting off again. I don’t want sex with him. He’s not my type. But he geniuinely did change his opinion. And no he isn’t homophobic. People can change. You just don’t have a case and you’re just spouting off bullshit because you’re one insecure hateful little man.
RyanMBecker
@Bryguyf69: Good advice. One of my law professors said the same thing. Only defend yourself to those you respect. When @moldisdelicious says juvenile things like, “You’re only mad because you know I’m right,” he obviously is not someone I respect. He’s a sad joke worthy of pity. Just look at the posts here and it’s clear no one supports him. Will ignore him too.
moldisdelicious
@Giancarlo85:
You come off as nothing but a loser trying to build this impression as some wannabe bully using queerty as your lair. Stop it. That you’re not. You’re too soft for that bully shit. Leave it for the pros.
All you do in here is basically argue and insult people acting like the biggest bitch in the room. So shut the fuck up with all that bs you keep talking.
moldisdelicious
@RyanMBecker:
Why do bum ass dudes project your insecurities with yourselves on to other people? Let’s get this straight. I am here to drop my opinion. I don’t have to agree with anybody on here. I am not hating on you if I don’t agree with you, tell you why upfront and etc. The problem with you dudes is you basically come to these web sites searching for people to validate you and to feel good about yourself and your opinions as if it’s the next persons job. That’s why I don’t even bother to go to these gay sites because it’s the same insecure losers ruining it. They simply just can’t let people say whatever without it turning into some personal, I am better than you contest. Got the nerve to talk about juveniles when you guys behave like it thinking this shit is some high school class table. I don’t know any of you people nor do I want or ask for your approval or disapproval because I don’t give a fuck. Try doing that for once instead of basically trying to make us into a monolithic where we can’t even be ourselves and have to be in your fucking likenesses, losers.