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Even Conservative Homosexuals Can’t Believe Michael Steele Still Has a Job Title

How many times has Michael Steele’s resignation been called for? The RNC chairman’s latest bumbling remarks — this time about the Afghanistan war, and how it was all Obama’s idea — are perhaps the most poisonous to Steele’s career prospects, but this guy is Teflon. Can’t nobody hold him down.

Speaking at fundraiser in Connecticut on Thursday, Steele told his audience of checkbooks:

The McChrystal incident, to me, was very comical. And I think it’s a reflection of the frustration that a lot of our military leaders have with this Administration and their prosecution of the war in Afghanistan,” said Steele. “Keep in mind again, federal candidates, this was a war of Obama’s choosing. This is not something the United States had actively prosecuted or wanted to engage in.”

“It was one of those, one of those areas of the total board of foreign policy ["in the Middle East"? -- Note: The audio is not quite clear in this section.] that we would be in the background, sort of shaping the changes that were necessary in Afghanistan as opposed to directly engaging troops,” Steele continued. “But it was the president who was trying to be cute by half by flipping a script demonizing Iraq, while saying the battle really should be in Afghanistan. Well, if he’s such a student of history, has he not understood that you know that’s the one thing you don’t do, is engage in a land war in Afghanistan? All right, because everyone who has tried, over a thousand years of history, has failed. And there are reasons for that. There are other ways to engage in Afghanistan.”

It’s even got the gays upset. GOProud’s chairman Christopher R. Barron was quick with an email blast: “Michael Steele’s comments regarding the war in Afghanistan are inexcusable. These comments are not just another gaffe that can be explained away, they represent a fundamental failure to understand the importance of winning the war on global extremism. Chairman Steele shouldn’t need to be reminded that the war in Afghanistan was not a ‘war of Obama’s choosing.’ The Chairman of the RNC shouldn’t need to be reminded that it was terrorists operating from bases in Afghanistan who started this war on September 11, 2001. Michael Steele is dead wrong; the war in Afghanistan is not lost. What is lost, however, is any shred of confidence that conservatives can have in his leadership at the RNC. This election cycle is simply too important to the future of the conservative movement and to the future of this country to be trusted to someone like Michael Steele.”

By:           John Rogers
On:           Jul 3, 2010
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  • 50 Comments
    • Kieran
      Kieran

      Michael Steele: “Well, if he’s such a student of history, has he not understood that you know that’s the one thing you don’t do, is engage in a land war in Afghanistan? All right, because EVERYONE who has tried, over a thousand years of history, has FAILED. And there are reasons for that.”

      Why is it considered a “gaffe” to say something TRUE?

      Jul 3, 2010 at 2:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ryan
      Ryan

      umm Obama didn’t start the war like Steele stated. That’s kind of a big error.

      Jul 3, 2010 at 2:21 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kieran
      Kieran

      You’re right Ryan, Obama didn’t start it. But Obama is escalating it. Is that the “change” you voted for? Spending hundreds of Billions more US taxdollars fighting Arabs and Muslims in the Middle East? How did hundreds of millions of Arabs and Muslims around the world become America’s sworn enemies?

      Jul 3, 2010 at 2:35 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
      PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS

      @Kieran: Maybe you haven’t heard of that incident that occured on Sept. 11 2001?

      Jul 3, 2010 at 2:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
      PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS

      As to Steele, he was not the first choice of the majority of the repugnaticans. The only reason he was given the post was after Obama was elected the repugnaticans wanted to proclaim “Hey we like Black guys too!!”, despite the racism that runs so deep in their party.

      Jul 3, 2010 at 2:45 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kieran
      Kieran

      Oh yeah that’s right Plays Well. September 11th happened because those nasty Arab and Muslim terrorists “hate us for our freedom” right? Has nothing at all to do with our interventionist foreign policy and sticking our noses into other countries affairs. We don’t have enough problems right here in America, we need to go out and make the whole world safe for democracy via our Apache helicopters, right? The Neo-Cons can kiss my ass.

      Jul 3, 2010 at 4:12 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Tessie Tura
      Tessie Tura

      Hilary ran for President, they said “hey, we want one of them too” and picked Sarah Palin. Obama got the Democratic nomination and they said “hey, we want one of them too” and picked Michael Steele.

      Jul 3, 2010 at 4:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Baxter
      Baxter

      @PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS: Michael Steele is proof that affirmative action is a bad thing.

      Jul 3, 2010 at 5:40 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Devon
      Devon

      I’m agreeing with Michael Steele. I feel dirty…

      But dammit, he’s right. This isn’t Bush’s war anymore, it’s Obama’s. He’s stepped up the number of troops, he’s hugely increased the number of civilian-killing drone attacks, and there’s no way in Hell he’ll meet that imaginary 2011 deadline.

      Jul 3, 2010 at 5:42 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge
      james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge

      @Kieran: Obama never, ever lied to you. If you choose to ignore the fact that he said repeatedly while he was running in 2007 & 2008 that he wanted to focus on Afghanistan and not Iraq, that we have to win in Afghanistan, well, you heard what you wanted to hear buddy. The man said he would increase troops in Afghanistan and he did. You heard what you wanted and ignored what you wanted. Now the poor guy is getting viciously attacked for keeping his promises as well?

      And I’m not even going to get into the fact that this man has passed more bills and social programs in 18 months than those twin idiots Bush & Clinton did in 16 years. He’s another LBJ or FDR, getting viciously attacked by the left and right, while steadly doing what they thought was right. And history certainly bore them out, like it will Obama.

      Jul 3, 2010 at 5:44 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @Kieran:

      Spending hundreds of Billions more US taxdollars fighting Arabs and Muslims in the Middle East?

      No. I voted to spend hundreds of billions more US tax dollar to KILL Arabs and Muslims in the Middle East.

      How did hundreds of millions of Arabs and Muslims around the world become America’s sworn enemies?

      Killing thousands of people in New York; killing civilians, and soldiers with IED’s; coercing developmentally challenged children into becoming suicide bombers; killing women for wearing pants; gluing the anus’ of homosexual men closed, causing them to die slow, and painf toxic induced deaths.

      Kieren, go to Afghanistan, and tell the first cleric you see that you’re queer and see what it gets you. They don’t give a shit about you, or your bleeding heart. They’d as soon kill you, as talk to you.

      Jul 3, 2010 at 5:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • dvlaries
      dvlaries

      Steele long ago cast himself an irrelevancy when he apologized to Rush Limbaugh.

      But he’s the only public face of the Republicans who isn’t Palin or another over-fed pasty white guy, so unless he’s caught with an under-age boy or a barn animal, I don’t think the party will get rid of him.

      Jul 3, 2010 at 5:55 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Blue
      Blue

      @Mr. Enemabag Jones:

      Your comment is completely offensive. I come from a Muslim family and was born in the Middle East. My family moved to the US when I was 3. I came out to my family 4 years ago and they didn’t disown me or try to kill me. I hate when people like you stereotype and try to dehumanize us. My sisters told me that they are behind me 100% and my parents told me that they will never stop loving me because I’m their son. Is that too much for you to grasp? Sheesh, grow up and stop being such a tool.

      Jul 3, 2010 at 6:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Zach
      Zach

      @james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge:

      +1 for pointing out what Obama’s stance actually was. It’s not one I necessarily agree with, but he made it very clear from the beginning of his primary campaign that he wanted to concentrate on Pakistan and Afghanistan. He spent months studying and mapping out what he wanted to do before he won a single state.

      Also, drones attacks have killed far fewer civilians than regular airstrikes. Biden recommended them for a reason – they can’t create long-term stability, but they can minimize civilian and military casualties.

      And while September 11 should have made America re-examine its interventionist policies, you don’t roll over either. Next time though, the United States should attack the other country that actually abetted terrorism cough* Saudi Arabia, not a country that had nothing to do with it.

      Jul 3, 2010 at 6:55 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @Blue:

      God bless America!

      Now, Blue, go to Afghanistan and tell the first cleric you see that you are gay, and that your family supports you, and see what happens to you–and them.

      Jul 3, 2010 at 10:06 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @Mr. Enemabag Jones: is an Obotic, paytriotic, reactionary who approves of the murder of GIs and civilians in wars to make the world safe for BP and Haliburton. That’s as sick as it gets.

      @james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge: tells us that Obama never, ever lied to you. Thats a lie.

      Obots like to forget that Obama’s claim to be a ‘fierce defender’ of LGBT folks bears little resemblance to the truth. In fact, Obama is more our enemy than our friend. He lied to us too.

      Obama promised massive withdrawals from Iraq by last month. He’s going to keep troops there as long as it takes to protect the ‘rights’ stolen by BP and Haliburton. He lied.

      All he did was to transfer some troops from Clinton and Bushes Iraq killing fields to new killing fields in Afghanistan and Pakistan to continue the mass murder of civilians and GIs. He’s a lair.

      Obama says that US troops will be withdrawn from Afghanistan by this time next year. He’s lying.

      Obama promised to take over management of the Gulf spill but he continues to sit by, with his thumb up his ass ‘respecting’ the property rights of BP and Haliburton.He’s a paid lair for BP and Haliburton. .

      Obama promised health care reform and ended up making insurance companies richer. He’s a lair.

      Obama accepted almost a million dollars in bribes (James, Obot instincts flaring, will insist that we agree to lie and call them campaign ‘contributions’) from Goldman Sachs and rewarded GS with a nifty $10,000,000,000.00 TARP return on investment. Obama promised change but Obama, like Clinton and Bush, is a lap dog of the rich. Obama lied.

      Obama promised hope, but the almost 17% unemployed (US BLS U6 index of everyone unemployed, not just those getting benefits) and the growing numbers of the homeless ending up in Obamavilles across the country beg to differ. Their belief in Obama’s hope is truing into rage. He’s a lair.

      Obama ran as a friend of working people and busted the UAW. He ran as a friend of immigrant and imported workers and excluded them from health care. He ran as a friend of the African American communities and has done nothing to stop the slide of homeless, joblessness and poverty.
      Obama is a consistent lair. His administration is a dismal failure. In November sit out the elections or vote for a leftist third party. And don’t worry about the Republicans. They’re no worse than Obama.

      amesedator

      Jul 3, 2010 at 11:58 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @Mr. Enemabag Jones:

      No, enemabot, you go to any fighting base in Afghanistan and you tell the GIs you want them to get killed an maimed to make the world safe for Haliburton and BP, just like Obama.

      Wear a flak suit.

      If you can, let us know how it all turns out.

      Jul 4, 2010 at 12:02 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Matt
      Matt

      Sorry… I’d prefer Michael Steele over Boehner the ignorant red chipmunk, and McConnell (who has been MUTED recently), since both of them come out very vocally against civil rights/taxes/law/environmental protection/life on Earth/immigration/gay rights. There’s only so much rallying against the unemployed and happy majority I can take. I happen to be gay and unemployed (between schools) at the moment, so apparently I’m due an execution. Perhaps they’ll check my immigration documents first.

      Either way, Michael Steele is a great gay ally, like an incompetent Oprah. He pontificates, nobody listens to him, but sometimes he throws us homos a bone with quite generous comic material. Let’s face it, he’s a better leader than Oliver North or Ann Coulter.

      Not angry. Should he lose his job? YES. Will he? Nope, welcome back to politics, we missed you, nothing changed at ALL.

      Jul 4, 2010 at 6:11 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ronbo
      Ronbo

      Sorry to have to say it…

      With more Republicans like Steele, I’d be a whole lot happier. A**hat liars like Obama are making me sick – because Obama killed hope for millions of Americans. Fakers like Steele will scoop them up. So who is worse? Fake Democrats – because they kill hope. Republicans are honest about their fondness for corruption.

      I’m going third-party. I’d rather lose with someone I love, than win with someone who will stab me in the back (both republicans and democrats) ((with kind exception to Russ Feingold and Alan Grayson – you two are superstars!))

      Jul 4, 2010 at 9:33 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ronbo
      Ronbo

      @Bill Perdue:

      I love you Bill Perdue – a person who actually uses their brain! Can we kick the sycophant war-mongers out of society? You Timothy McVeigh wannabees need to go see what your war-luvin leaders have wrought. More terrorism seed isn’t gonna help the situation.

      Jul 4, 2010 at 9:42 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge
      james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge

      @Bill Perdue: “Obama is a consistent lair [I assume you mean liar]. His administration is a dismal failure. In November sit out the elections or vote for a leftist third party. AND DON’T WORRY ABOUT THE REPUBLICANS. THEY’RE NO WORSE THAN OBAMA”.

      Really? Republicans who vow to repeal the hate crimes law and federally ban gay marriage to override all the States that have it and put DADT back in place if the Dems repeal it, they’re no worse than Obama? Only an idiot or mentally deranged person believes that and that final sentence finally exposes you for the GOPProud shill that you are. We all know they go around on websites like this and Huffpo to pull that little “they’re no worse than Dems, vote for a leftist third party” line to keep people home or split the vote a la Ralph Nader. Nice try Republican butt boy.

      Jul 4, 2010 at 11:01 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @Bill Perdue:

      The opinion of an avowed racist means little to me, Bill.

      Jul 4, 2010 at 12:01 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge:

      Bill never got over a black man being in the White House. Billy-boy is a Hillary supporter through and through. Seeing “one of them” as president turned his hair white. But that’s ok, it matches the color of his hood.

      Jul 4, 2010 at 12:05 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @Mr. Enemabag Jones:

      I love how my “God bless America!” comment got so many thumbs down from readers. When did queers learn to hate America, and love anti-gay, Islamofacists countries like Iraq, and Afghanistan?

      Things aren’t perfect here, but move to the middle-east, and try living anywhere other than Israel, and see how the locals treat you, as a white, non-Muslim, queer American.

      Jul 4, 2010 at 12:10 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge: is a clueless obot.

      The Democrats, because Obama is such a loser, are going to lose in November. So quit whining and trying to blame the left. Get used to it. Democrats are going to mainly because LGBT folks are sick and tired of the consistent lies of ‘fierce defender’. But don’t worry they’re no worse than the Republicans.

      We need to boycott and vote against both bigtoed parties.

      James, in a delerium, says Democrats are better than Republicans on the question of same sex mariage.

      What a crock. Bill Clinton and Joe Biden gave us DOMA. Obama and other christian bigots sabotaged SSM in California. The Republicans pushed DOMA in some 40 states. They’re equally fucked up.

      And so is anyone who supports them. Either of them.

      Jul 4, 2010 at 12:23 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @Mr. Enemabag Jones: The only racist swine around here is the one who said “KILL Arabs and Muslims in the Middle East”. That would be you, Enema.

      @Mr. Enemabag Jones: Whadayathink Enema, you got voted down because you’re an offensive lout and a hate consumed racist. How difficult is that?

      @Mr. Enemabag Jones: Defenders of anti-GLBT bigots like Obama say that Obama critics are Republicans, Naderites, Clintonistas and racists.

      That’s because they’re not bright enough to take on the political questions we raise. So they smear and lie. It’s what we’ve come to expect from Obama and his Obots.

      Jul 4, 2010 at 12:36 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @Bill Perdue:

      Bill, it’s the 4th of July, shouldn’t you be at a cross burning?

      I’m not surprised that you would pick Independence Day to attack America and our president, while coddling the anti-gay killers of Afghanistan. I guess anyone who kills American civilians and American soldiers is a-ok in your book.

      You hate both American political parties so you support the president of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan. Good luck with that, Billy-boy.

      And BTW–thank you for giving a thumbs down to my comments numbered 22, 23, and 24. It shows how terrified you are of independent thought.

      Jul 4, 2010 at 12:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @Bill Perdue:

      Defenders of anti-GLBT bigots like Obama say that Obama critics are Republicans, Naderites, Clintonistas and racists.

      What do you call defenders of gay killing, lesbian raping, transgendered people torturing Islamofacists? Easy–Bill Perdue.

      People like Billy-boy are Al-Qaeda’s greatest ally in America.

      Now, Billy-boy, go to Afghanistan and tell the first cleric you see that you are gay, and see what happens to you.

      Jul 4, 2010 at 1:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @Mr. Enemabag Jones: Enema, I have a long and verifiable record of opposing racism including being among the first on LGBT blogs to criticize the Clintons for making racist statement about Obama during the primaries and for exposing the racist myth that African Americans defeated same sex marriage in California. http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/8013/

      You have a clear record as a racist who wants to kill Arab and muslims and as a self loathing homohater who supports Obama because sabotaged same sex marriage in California and uses homohating language to defend Clinton’s DADT and DOMA.

      You have a clear record as a rightwing apologist for genocide in Iraq, for the murder of GIs by the White House and Pentagon to make the world safe for BP and Haliburton. Obama’s Af-Pak is as Whack as Bush’s Iraq, Black Agenda Report “http://blackagendareport.com/?q=content/obamas-af-pak-whack-bushs-iraq

      In the foggy recesses of your paytriotic mind did you mean the Islamic Republic of Iran? You do know that the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan is a puppet state of the US, an ally.

      In any case, enema, search Queerty and you’ll see that I despise the mad ayatollahs for murdering GLBT folk. You do know how to use a search engine, right?

      A real patriot, Sam Adams had you in mind when he said: “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”

      Jul 4, 2010 at 2:15 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @Bill Perdue:

      being among the first on LGBT blogs to criticize the Clintons

      Here is Billy-boy “criticizing” Clinton:

      I am a HUGE fan of President Clinton,

      who supports Obama because sabotaged same sex marriage in California

      And here’s Billy-boy praising Obama for being a better advocate for LGBTQ Americans than Clinton:

      but I think President Obama is clearly putting it on the line more than Clinton did, especially after lifting the gay ban in the military failed. Certainly, President Obama is being far more cautious than we’d like…but he’s gone out there a LOT more than Clinton has.

      http://tinyurl.com/23gn8qe

      So which one is it, Billy-boy? Obama is a terrible president for queer Americans, or he isn’t? You hate Clinton for DOMA, DADTDP, or you’re a HUGE fan of Clinton? Do you even know what your stance is on anything, Billy-boy?

      You have a clear record as a rightwing apologist

      Opponents of Obama say that critics are rightwingers, apologists, and racists. That’s because they’re not bright enough to take on the political questions we raise. So they smear and lie. It’s what we’ve come to expect from Obama-haters.

      A real patriot, Sam Adams had you in mind when he said

      Your ignorance is boundless, Billy-boy. With that sentence and quote, you’ve proven how ignorant you really are. How can a man live so many years on this earth, and still remain so wantonly foolish?

      You defend anti-gay Muslims, and Islamofacists, you demonize America’s president, while accusing fellow Americans of being racist.

      You’re spinning like a Maytag, Billy-boy, but all you’ve shown the readers of Queerty is that you hate America’s first black president; you defend the Muslim killers of Middle-Eastern queers; and you love Clinton. Your dementia is setting in, and it’s sad, Billy-boy.

      Jul 4, 2010 at 4:51 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @Bill Perdue:

      wants to kill Arab and muslims

      The ones who are mutilating, murdering, raping, abusing, and imprisoning our queer brothers and sisters, yes. You on the other hand, want to wrap them in a blanket, rock them on your lap, and read them a bed time story.

      apologist for genocide in Iraq

      Sounds like you’re describing yourself, Billy-boy. For you, their skin colour, (non-white) and religion, (non-Christian) trumps their abuse of our fellow middle-Eastern queers.

      Jul 4, 2010 at 5:01 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      Enema, can you even read. I didn’t say that, Phil Reese did.

      I am a HUGE fan of President Clinton, but I think President Obama is clearly putting it on the line more than Clinton did, especially after lifting the gay ban in the military failed. Certainly, President Obama is being far more cautious than we’d like… but he’s gone out there a LOT more than Clinton has. Phil Reese | October 29, 2009 10:26 AM It’s the 17th of 23 comments. Are you unable to read, stupid or as susul, simply lying.

      http://www.bilerico.com/2009/10/obama_signs_matthew_shepardjames_byrd_hate_crimes.php

      When i said that “Opponents of Obama say that critics are rightwingers, apologists, and racists. That’s because they’re not bright enough to take on the political questions we raise. So they smear and lie.

      Here’s what I said. “Do they include DADT, the codification of military bigotry into law?

      Do they include wasting the chance to get socialized medicine using the huge tax surpluses and the economic benefits of the end of the cold war that he inherited?

      What about his embargo on food, medicine and sanitary supplies that killed, by UN and Food AID NGO estimates, about half a million Iraqi children? His Secretary of State admitted to the mass murder when Leslie Stahl of 60 minutes asked “
      We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?

      And Secretary of State Madeleine Albright admitted
      “I think this is a very hard choice, but the price–we think the price is worth it.”

      How brave, how heroic of Bill Clinton! the odds, 500,000 to one!, he won, using the power of the American government to murder half a million children. Was that his greatest accomplishment?

      And what about championing NAFTA and deregulation, when Clinton played lapdog to the rich and set the stage for Bush. Between the two of them they created the massive unemployment (15 million and counting) that threatens another depression.
      Then there’s DOMA. Sure, it was a Republican initiative, but Clinton jumped on that bigotbandwagon head first to try to offset the union votes he lost on NAFTA. He championed DOMA and had a ready audience among most Democrats, including Biden, Mikulski, and his fellow bigots the Republicans and Dixiecrats. Then Clinton boasted about it on redneck southern religious stations in a bid for the bigot vote.

      As Time Magazine reported during the 1996 campaign when all this transpired.

      “By the time Clinton arrived in Chicago for his party’s convention in August, nothing that hinted at liberalism was left hanging on him. When the President, who had begun his term advocating the rights of gays in the military, came around to supporting the Defense of Marriage Act, which barred federal recognition for gay and lesbian unions, Dole was wide-eyed. “Is there anything we’re for that he won’t jump on?” Dole asked. The answer, essentially, was nothing…”

      They don’t call him Slick Willie for nothing. Isn’t that right Michael? So was DOMA his finest hour?

      But here’s the key question in the match up with Obama. We know they both made lots of promises and betrayed them but did Clinton pass out some medals, make a few token appointments and invite us to an Easter egg roll and all the other important stuff Obama’s done? Even bush made a token appointment, naming Foreign Service Officer Michael Guest Ambassador to (?) Romania.
      So who’s better, or, depending on your point of view, worse, Clinton, Bush or Obama? Or is it a tossup?”

      Seek professional help, enema, before it’s too late.

      Jul 4, 2010 at 5:23 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      Here’s Billy-boy defending Islamofacists:

      The only real difference between the anti-GLBT actions of islamist like the US armed and trained jihadists in Iraq or the killer ayatollahs of Iran and christer and judaic religious bigots is their ability to harm us, not their intent to harm us.

      Islamophobia is racism.

      Here Billy-boy shows he’s an anti-Semite:

      Islamophobia began as a product of zionist efforts to justify their invasion and occupation of Palestine.

      Here he he paints Islamofacists as “victims”, and those who oppose them as Nazi’s and Ku Klux Klan members:

      Muslims are people, not ogres and the attempt to paint them as monsters or sub-humans is not a bit different than what the KKK and the Nazi’s said.

      Billy-boy can spin all he wants, but he supports the mistreatment, and outright the murder of Afghani, and Iraqi queers at the hands of Islamofacists, yet denounces Americans, and our president.

      Jul 4, 2010 at 5:44 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      Here, Billy-boy presents tries to dismiss the murders of queers by Islamofacists, purposely ignoring the world-wide murder of queers, by limiting the scope of his challenge:

      If you dare, compare the number of GLBT folks murdered in the US as a result of christer hate speech with the number of gays murdered in the EU by muslims or as a result of muslim hate speech. There was one in London and another in Amsterdam and may have been others. Our rate is between 25-30 a year.

      See! Only one, or two gays killed by Islamofacists. That’s nothing to worry about!

      But in Billy-boy’s reality, Muslims are poor, defenseless victims. Here he opens up his challenge to three countries to support his reverse racism:

      And compare both figures to the number of innocent Muslims killed by racists, neo-Nazis and fascists in England, France and Germany. Then add those killed in the genocide in Bosnia-Herzegovina.

      Middle-eastern queers being murdered by Islamofacists don’t matter to Billy-boy, as long as he can paint anyone who does not worship Allah as racists.

      Jul 4, 2010 at 5:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      Here Billy-boy blames attacks on middle-eastern queers not on Islamofacists, but on Americans!:

      The rise of ant-GLBT and anti-female violence from Palestine to Pakistan is directly and primarily the result of the US invasions, occupations and wars for oil in the region.

      See, it’s not the fault of Islamofacists, WE made them do it! I bet Billy-boy also believes that women invite rape by dressing provocatively.

      He he believes that Americans should not try to help our queer brothers and sisters, but we should leave them to fend for themselves:

      The best thing we can do for our brothers and sisters in the region it to join with the antiwar movement in demanding the total, immediate and permanent withdrawal of US and satellite troops from the region. We should leave it to our brothers and sisters, to women, trade unions and students to solve the problems posed by bankrupt reactionary islamists and quisling collaborators like Karzi and Talabani.

      Here he defends Palestinians, and accuses the Jewish Michale Lucas of being a “zinonist”:

      His views about the people of Palestine, like most zionists, are the equivalent of American racists saying “The only good Indian is a dead Indian.” He’s unusually dense.

      As we can see, anyone who is not an anti-gay Islamofacist, is, in Billy-boy’s book, a racists, zionist, homophobe, and anything else his diseased mind can come up with to defend his sacred Islam.

      Jul 4, 2010 at 6:09 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      Enema is a racist who supports Obama because of his racist wars against from Palestine to Pakistan and because of Obama’s racist decistion to cut immigrant and imported workers out of health care. He’s one sick puppy.

      Jul 4, 2010 at 7:26 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @Bill Perdue:

      Enema is a racist who supports Obama because of his racist wars

      I’m a racist, who supports a black president, who is a racist himself, because he goes to war against Islamofacists? You need to change your screen name to Pretzel, because your logic is twisted. I hope you took a noddle with you out into the deep end, Billy-boy.

      Jul 4, 2010 at 8:57 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      Enema is a racist who supports Obama because of his racist wars against from Palestine to Pakistan and because of Obama’s racist decistion to cut immigrant and imported workers out of health care. He’s one sick puppy.

      And an inept liar.

      I have a long and verifiable record of opposing racism including being among the first on LGBT blogs to criticize the Clintons for making racist statement about Obama during the primaries and for exposing the racist myth that African Americans defeated same sex marriage in California. http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/8013/

      You have a clear record as a racist who wants to kill Arab and muslims and as a self loathing homohater who supports Obama because sabotaged same sex marriage in California and uses homohating language to defend Clinton’s DADT and DOMA.

      You have a clear record as a rightwing apologist for genocide in Iraq, for the murder of GIs by the White House and Pentagon to make the world safe for BP and Haliburton. Obama’s Af-Pak is as Whack as Bush’s Iraq, Black Agenda Report “http://blackagendareport.com/?q=content/obamas-af-pak-whack-bushs-iraq

      In the foggy recesses of your paytriotic mind did you mean the Islamic Republic of Iran? You do know that the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan is a puppet state of the US, an ally.

      In any case, enema, search Queerty and you’ll see that I despise the mad ayatollahs for murdering GLBT folk. You do know how to use a search engine, right?

      A real patriot, Sam Adams had the enema in mind when he said: “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”

      Enema said I supported Clinton. He’s a liar. Enema, can you even read. I didn’t say that, Phil Reese did.

      I am a HUGE fan of President Clinton, but I think President Obama is clearly putting it on the line more than Clinton did, especially after lifting the gay ban in the military failed. Certainly, President Obama is being far more cautious than we’d like… but he’s gone out there a LOT more than Clinton has. Phil Reese | October 29, 2009 10:26 AM It’s the 17th of 23 comments. Are you unable to read, stupid or as susul, simply lying.

      http://www.bilerico.com/2009/1…..crimes.php

      When i said that “Opponents of Obama say that critics are rightwingers, apologists, and racists. That’s because they’re not bright enough to take on the political questions we raise. So they smear and lie.

      Here’s what I said. “Do they include DADT, the codification of military bigotry into law?

      Do they include wasting the chance to get socialized medicine using the huge tax surpluses and the economic benefits of the end of the cold war that he inherited?

      What about his embargo on food, medicine and sanitary supplies that killed, by UN and Food AID NGO estimates, about half a million Iraqi children? His Secretary of State admitted to the mass murder when Leslie Stahl of 60 minutes asked “
      We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?

      And Secretary of State Madeleine Albright admitted
      “I think this is a very hard choice, but the price–we think the price is worth it.”

      How brave, how heroic of Bill Clinton! the odds, 500,000 to one!, he won, using the power of the American government to murder half a million children. Was that his greatest accomplishment?

      And what about championing NAFTA and deregulation, when Clinton played lapdog to the rich and set the stage for Bush. Between the two of them they created the massive unemployment (15 million and counting) that threatens another depression.
      Then there’s DOMA. Sure, it was a Republican initiative, but Clinton jumped on that bigotbandwagon head first to try to offset the union votes he lost on NAFTA. He championed DOMA and had a ready audience among most Democrats, including Biden, Mikulski, and his fellow bigots the Republicans and Dixiecrats. Then Clinton boasted about it on redneck southern religious stations in a bid for the bigot vote.

      As Time Magazine reported during the 1996 campaign when all this transpired.

      “By the time Clinton arrived in Chicago for his party’s convention in August, nothing that hinted at liberalism was left hanging on him. When the President, who had begun his term advocating the rights of gays in the military, came around to supporting the Defense of Marriage Act, which barred federal recognition for gay and lesbian unions, Dole was wide-eyed. “Is there anything we’re for that he won’t jump on?” Dole asked. The answer, essentially, was nothing…”

      They don’t call him Slick Willie for nothing. Isn’t that right Michael? So was DOMA his finest hour?

      But here’s the key question in the match up with Obama. We know they both made lots of promises and betrayed them but did Clinton pass out some medals, make a few token appointments and invite us to an Easter egg roll and all the other important stuff Obama’s done? Even bush made a token appointment, naming Foreign Service Officer Michael Guest Ambassador to (?) Romania.
      So who’s better, or, depending on your point of view, worse, Clinton, Bush or Obama? Or is it a tossup?”

      Jul 4, 2010 at 9:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      The enema is a racist who supports Obama’s genocide and the murder of LGBT folks in Iraq. And he’s a racist because he supports Obama’s exclusion of immigrant and imported workers from his health care scam.

      Zionism and islamophobia are racist and that’s why I oppose them and the enema supports them.

      Jul 4, 2010 at 9:14 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ryan
      Ryan

      @Mr. Enemabag Jones: @Bill Perdue:

      Both of you seriously need to go find something better to do. Go watch fireworks or something. Do you guys have real life friends you can argue with rather than strangers online?

      Jul 4, 2010 at 9:19 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @Bill Perdue:

      Crazy with a capital C.

      Jul 4, 2010 at 9:51 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @Mr. Enemabag Jones: enema is a colostomy bag full of putrid racism and clumsy, ham-fisted lies. He’s a waste of oxygen.

      Click on No. 17, No. 25, No. 26, No. 29, and No 32 to see just how arrogantly racist and stupid he is. He can’t lie worth a damn.

      Here, Glen Ford of Black Agenda Report describes what made enema the way he is in his essay Living a Black Fantasy: The Obama Delirium Effect. Speaking about enema’s delusional world, Ford points out that “Life in the Delusion Zone is animated by the purest magic, a place where catastrophe is instantaneously transformed into its opposite.”

      http://blackagendareport.com/?q=content/living-black-fantasy-obama-delirium-effect

      Jul 5, 2010 at 12:11 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
      PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS

      [img]http://thesportinglife.typepad.com/the_sporting_life/images/iran1_1.jpg[/img]

      [img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_QRVCnn0AreA/RvXXXY_Zc-I/AAAAAAAAAAc/M0wOd2bIDdI/s320/gay_hanging_iran.jpg[/img]

      @Kieran: It makes me wonder how any Gay person can defend any muslim country. How can you defend a country where two Gay teens can be tortured for 2 years in by a series of whippings which tore the flesh from their bodies. prison for simply being Gay. Once the last set of lashes were inflicted upon these kids suddenly new charges were “discovered” and they were sentenced to death. They were driven to a public square in front of a cheering mob of thousands. Had the nooses placed upon their necks, then had blindfolds taken off so they could see each other being murdered with the cheering mob shouting in glee. Then the truck was slowly driven forward insuring a slow torturous death by suffocation. Or maybe you prefer the Gays who have surgical glue put up their asses and then fed duretics which causes uncontrolable diaherra which causes the person to literaly explode. I dare you to take a walk down a street in any muslim country andidentify yourself as Gay. See how loud your defense of those countries is then……..

      [img]http://standupforamerica.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/iran-gay-teens-hanging.jpg[/img]

      Jul 5, 2010 at 9:36 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kieran
      Kieran

      Bill Kristol Must Resign!

      Immediately, if not sooner…

      by Justin Raimondo, July 05, 2010

      Bill Kristol is demanding the head of GOP national chairman Michael Steele, who, in a moment of honesty, questioned the wisdom of invading and occupying Afghanistan. Yet Kristol has never been elected to anything: indeed, the pretentious little gremlin once threatened to quit the GOP, back in the 1990s, when the Republicans in Congress voted to deny funding to Bill Clinton’s Balkan adventure. Kristol, who had thrilled at the opportunity to “crush Serb skulls,” as he put it, stamped his foot and declared his imminent defection. Too bad he never followed through on his promise. Now he’s assuming the mantle of Republican kingmaker: based on his atrocious record as the GOP’s grand strategist, it’s Kristol, not Steele, who should resign.

      Having dragged the GOP down to utter defeat with eight years of “big government conservatism,” i.e. perpetual war and ballooning deficits, and handed the country over to the tender mercies of the Obama cult, it seems Kristol and his fellow neocons are determined to drag the party all the way down to the status of an irrelevant sect, i.e. the neoconservatives writ a bit larger. The Iraq war, of which Kristol was a leading champion, has bankrupted the country, and destabilized the entire region, just as Republican critics of the war such as the Committee for the Republic, and top Pentagon leaders, feared it would.

      It is nonsense to pretend that there was no resistance to the neocons’ fanatic warmongering on the right. As the neoconservatives were lying us into war with tall tales of Iraqi WMDs, a group of authentic conservatives, including C. Boyden Grey, a former official in the first Bush administration, William Nitze, son of Ronald Reagan’s top arms negotiator Paul Nitze, and John B. Henry II, a Washington businessman and direct descendant of Patrick Henry, issued a manifesto descrying the rise of an American empire. To cross that Rubicon, they warned, would mean the end of our old republic. It would bankrupt us, and lead us down the path to a form of collectivism impelled by militarism: “America has begun to stray far from its founding tradition of leading the world by example rather than by force.”

      Jul 5, 2010 at 12:07 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dave
      Dave

      @PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS:

      You do know that the current situation in Iran is the American government’s fault, right? Homosexuality was tolerated in Iran until the US decided to overthrow the government which resulted in the Islamic revolution. The situation for gays in Iraq got severly worse when the US invaded and the American military simply turned away gay Iraqis asking for help. Why don’t you mention America’s involvement in all this? Check your facts.

      Jul 5, 2010 at 3:12 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS: Criticism of the US genocide for in Iraq and mass murder in Afghanistan and Pakistan is not defense of islamist backwardness.

      Support for the Palestinian struggle against zionist ethnic cleansing, starvation and apartheid is not defense of islamist backwardness.

      People who say so, or who say that the antiwar and Pro-Palestinian movements shouldn’t be supported are merely tools of the racists in the WH and the oil companies.

      The wars there are about oil. The people of Iran including LGBT folks, trade unionists and workers, women and students and youth will take care of the mad ayatollahs without any help from ‘regime changing’ stooges for American oil companies or zionist nukes.

      The huge nationwide demonstrations about a year ago prove that it’s just a matter of time before the Iranians win. Then they’ll hold fast, fair trials for scum like Ahmadinejad, the killer ayatollahs and a lot of cops and relieve them of life’s burdens.

      Jul 5, 2010 at 4:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
      PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS

      @Dave: Please I really don’t think anything the US did would cause thousands of those islamic scumbags to cheer those two Gay teens being slowly suffocated in a public square. Look at the last picture. Crowds are watching with glee, they are in stadium like seating like we would attend an entertainment event. Those two kids were tortured for 18 months prior to their murder. They were lovers aged 14 and 16 years old who got a little too careless with who knew they were a couple. They are arrested for being Gay and sentenced to 180 lashes. The body can only endure about 30 lashes before the flesh and muscle begins to be torn from the body. Once each session of lashes was completed they were sent to a filthy, damp, dark prison to “heal” where they were subject to more torture from the guards. Once their wounds were “healed” they were subject to the entire process again and again. Once the last session was completed suddenly new charges were “discovered” and after 18 months of torture they were sentenced to a slow torturous death…….In your world that is the fault of the United States????

      Sure there are always going to be a small faction of persons who are Gay. Yet the overwhelming majority of the islamic culture hates every fiber of our being and wishes nothing but death and destruction to the Gay community. In every islamic country Gays are routinely rounded up, locked up tortured, and put to death. Those cultures are simply wired differently than us. And their madness is not only directed towards the Gay communities. How else do you explain a teenage girl who is raped. Then becasue she caused “shame on her family” she is buried up to her chest and stoned to death in yet another public square by the community including her father and brothers</b< casting stones at her???? Or how bout the school in Saudi Arabia one of the United State's "closest allies" in the mid east. A school for girls was a raging inferno. The school administrator refused to unlock the doors because the girls were not "properly covered". Fifteen schoolgirls were burned alive. . The US is responsible for a lot, but don’t blame the insane demented practices of those vile cultures on us..You can not reason with those with no sense of reason. The sooner we realize that and end the madness of “negotating” with these fanatical madmen the better off the world will be……..

      Jul 5, 2010 at 5:13 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Queer Supremacist
      Queer Supremacist

      @Bill Perdue (aka Ernst Röhm): The Palestinian cause is rooted in, and totally inseparable from, the same Islamist backwardness you claim to not defend. Pro-Palestinianism is Nazism. Anti-zionism is Nazism. Bill Perdue, who claims to be a communist or socialist (the only difference is in the body count) is really an unreconstructed NAZI. N. A. Z. I. Islamophobia is not racism because ISLAM IS NOT A FUCKING RACE. It is also justified by history and current events.

      Mr. Enemabag Jones is a fucking HERO for calling you out on your Nazism.

      Back to the topic at hand, Michael Steele is a racist and a homophobe (“white gay men have enough rights already”) and it’s time the GOP threw this Republican Obama-lite on his ass. The only reason they elected him was as an intellectual exercise to discredit Affirmative Action. Well it worked, now you can let the guinea pig out of the cage.

      Jul 7, 2010 at 10:46 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      @Mr. Enemabag Jones: is an Obotic, paytriotic, reactionary who approves of the murder of GIs and civilians in wars to make the world safe for BP and Haliburton. That’s as sick as it gets.

      @james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge: tells us that Obama never, ever lied to you. Thats a lie.

      Obots like to forget that Obama’s claim to be a ‘fierce defender’ of LGBT folks bears little resemblance to the truth. In fact, Obama is more our enemy than our friend. He lied to us too.

      Obama promised massive withdrawals from Iraq by last month. He’s going to keep troops there as long as it takes to protect the ‘rights’ stolen by BP and Haliburton. He lied.

      All he did was to transfer some troops from Clinton and Bushes Iraq killing fields to new killing fields in Afghanistan and Pakistan to continue the mass murder of civilians and GIs. He’s a lair.

      Obama says that US troops will be withdrawn from Afghanistan by this time next year. He’s lying.

      Obama promised to take over management of the Gulf spill but he continues to sit by, with his thumb up his ass ‘respecting’ the property rights of BP and Haliburton.He’s a paid lair for BP and Haliburton. .

      Obama promised health care reform and ended up making insurance companies richer. He’s a lair.

      Obama accepted almost a million dollars in bribes (James, Obot instincts flaring, will insist that we agree to lie and call them campaign ‘contributions’) from Goldman Sachs and rewarded GS with a nifty $10,000,000,000.00 TARP return on investment. Obama promised change but Obama, like Clinton and Bush, is a lap dog of the rich. Obama lied.

      Obama promised hope, but the almost 17% unemployed (US BLS U6 index of everyone unemployed, not just those getting benefits) and the growing numbers of the homeless ending up in Obamavilles across the country beg to differ. Their belief in Obama’s hope is truing into rage. He’s a lair.

      Obama ran as a friend of working people and busted the UAW. He ran as a friend of immigrant and imported workers and excluded them from health care. He ran as a friend of the African American communities and has done nothing to stop the slide of homeless, joblessness and poverty.
      Obama is a consistent lair. His administration is a dismal failure. In November sit out the elections or vote for a leftist third party. And don’t worry about the Republicans. They’re no worse than Obama.

      Sep 12, 2010 at 3:22 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bill Perdue
      Bill Perdue

      Enema, can you even read. I didn’t say that, Phil Reese did.

      I am a HUGE fan of President Clinton, but I think President Obama is clearly putting it on the line more than Clinton did, especially after lifting the gay ban in the military failed. Certainly, President Obama is being far more cautious than we’d like… but he’s gone out there a LOT more than Clinton has. Phil Reese | October 29, 2009 10:26 AM It’s the 17th of 23 comments. Are you unable to read, stupid or as susul, simply lying.

      http://www.bilerico.com/2009/1…..crimes.php

      When i said that “Opponents of Obama say that critics are rightwingers, apologists, and racists. That’s because they’re not bright enough to take on the political questions we raise. So they smear and lie.

      Here’s what I said. “Do they include DADT, the codification of military bigotry into law?

      Do they include wasting the chance to get socialized medicine using the huge tax surpluses and the economic benefits of the end of the cold war that he inherited?

      What about his embargo on food, medicine and sanitary supplies that killed, by UN and Food AID NGO estimates, about half a million Iraqi children? His Secretary of State admitted to the mass murder when Leslie Stahl of 60 minutes asked “
      We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?

      And Secretary of State Madeleine Albright admitted
      “I think this is a very hard choice, but the price–we think the price is worth it.”

      How brave, how heroic of Bill Clinton! the odds, 500,000 to one!, he won, using the power of the American government to murder half a million children. Was that his greatest accomplishment?

      And what about championing NAFTA and deregulation, when Clinton played lapdog to the rich and set the stage for Bush. Between the two of them they created the massive unemployment (15 million and counting) that threatens another depression.
      Then there’s DOMA. Sure, it was a Republican initiative, but Clinton jumped on that bigotbandwagon head first to try to offset the union votes he lost on NAFTA. He championed DOMA and had a ready audience among most Democrats, including Biden, Mikulski, and his fellow bigots the Republicans and Dixiecrats. Then Clinton boasted about it on redneck southern religious stations in a bid for the bigot vote.

      As Time Magazine reported during the 1996 campaign when all this transpired.

      “By the time Clinton arrived in Chicago for his party’s convention in August, nothing that hinted at liberalism was left hanging on him. When the President, who had begun his term advocating the rights of gays in the military, came around to supporting the Defense of Marriage Act, which barred federal recognition for gay and lesbian unions, Dole was wide-eyed. “Is there anything we’re for that he won’t jump on?” Dole asked. The answer, essentially, was nothing…”

      They don’t call him Slick Willie for nothing. Isn’t that right Michael? So was DOMA his finest hour?

      But here’s the key question in the match up with Obama. We know they both made lots of promises and betrayed them but did Clinton pass out some medals, make a few token appointments and invite us to an Easter egg roll and all the other important stuff Obama’s done? Even bush made a token appointment, naming Foreign Service Officer Michael Guest Ambassador to (?) Romania.
      So who’s better, or, depending on your point of view, worse, Clinton, Bush or Obama? Or is it a tossup?”

      Seek professional help, enema, before you speak again.

      Sep 12, 2010 at 3:23 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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