UPDATE (12/21/11 12PM): Now with video!
The Des Moines Register reports that during an event at the Smokey Row Coffee House, Scott Arnold—associate professor of writing at William Penn University—asked Republican presidential candidate Newt “America’s Sweetheart” Gingrich how he plans on engaging gay Americans.
Gingrich’s alleged answer: vote for Obama.
“I asked him if he’s elected, how does he plan to engage gay Americans. How are we to support him? And he told me to support Obama,” Arnold. told the Register. “When you ask somebody a question and you expect them to support all Americans and have everyone’s general interest, It’s a little bit frustrating and disheartening when you’re told to support the other side. That he doesn’t’ need your support.”
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It’s telling when even Republicans say that gays, no matter their political affiliation, are better off voting for Obama. Gingrich’s lack of tact might partially explain why he’s no longer the current GOP front runner—and why he’s on wife number three.
Via: Joe.My.God.
Castorp
He didn’t say that gays were better off voting for Obama, but he did imply that “engaging gay Americans” wasn’t an important duty for the President of the United States. I agree, though I won’t be voting for him in the primary.
Meowzer
I wouldn’t have voted for Newt anyway. But since he’s not even interested in my vote, I guess I can vote for Obama free and clear. Thanks, Newt, for not trying to lure the gay community in and screwing us later. I think we’re better off voting for Obama as well.
Cam
@Castorp:
He didn’t imply anything he said it plainly.
““I asked him if he’s elected, how does he plan to engage gay Americans. How are we to support him? And he told me to support Obama,” said Scott Arnold, an associate professor of writing at William Penn University.””
I wonder if GOProud is listening?
Shannon1981
Wake up, gay republicans! Right from the mouth of your own party: THEY HATE YOU. THEY DO NOT WANT YOUR VOTES. Come over to the right side, and by “right,” I mean LEFT.B/b>
LandStander
@Shannon1981: Do you know that Newt is not the only republican running, and does not speak for them all? Do you know that Ron Paul is running as a republican, does not hate us, and wants our votes? Do you also know that he is where Obama is on gay rights, and even more for our rights in some cases?
Ron Paul is a republican. Ron Paul does not hate us. Therefore, “They hate you” is completely inaccurate.
Full disclosure, I have always voted democrat, and probably will this year too. Just pointing out that you should not make sweeping generalizations about republicans, especially with someone like Ron Paul in the race. (although most would consider him an independent, he is running as a republican)
Castorp
@Cam:
Your characterization is dishonest. One look at the video of the whole exchange shows that Newt said that IF GAY MARRIAGE IS THE ONLY ISSUE THEY CARE ABOUT, they should vote for Obama, yet gay people who care more such other issues as he names specifically, they should vote for him. Watch the whole video yourself. I’ll go ahead and believe my lying eyes over someone who is clearly trying to smear Newt now. And I’m not even a Newt supporter, but if this is the best example of “Republican hate” that the gay left can come up with , then … *yawn!*
Here’s the video, watch it yourself:
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7392399n&tag=mncol;lst;3
Idi Amin Dada
if this is the best example of “Republican hate” that the gay left can come up with
Riiiight. Pay no attention to Bachmann, Santorum or the Republican platform for that matter.
Kurt
@LandStander: Ron Paul opposes ENDA. President Obama supports ENDA.
YouKnowIt!
This gay Republican won’t be voting for either. What an abysmal selection this election cycle.
Wow
Why the fuck should we care about who will get defeated by Obama in 2012? I am sick of listening to these desperate delusional dumb shits saying dumb shit to get nominated to come in 2nd. They should just eeny meeny miny moe this nomination already before they lose what ever dignity these clowns have left.
declanto
Hasn’t anybody seen the video where gay Mr. Tom Sorensen told Newt:
“You know something?” Tom Sorensen of Iowa City asked Gingrich, shaking his hand. “You’re a fucking asshole.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/21/newt-gingrich-f-cking-a-hole_n_1162639.html
Shannon1981
@LandStander: Ron Paul might be running as a Republican, but he is hardly one of them. He is simply running on a ticket he has a chance to win on.
That party is the party of bigotry overall. I stand by this statement: if you are not white, straight, male, and christian, you are a fool if you vote republican. Oh, and AT LEAST upper middle class. They like people with money and to hell with everyone else.
Shannon1981
@LandStander: And Ron Paul doesn’t want us to have workplace protections, and he absolutely wants NO RIGHTS for transgender people. Sounds like hate to me. Stop defending them, why dontcha? Apologetics doesn’t work here. They hate us. Accept it and get used to it and stay on the right side of things- meaning the left.
LandStander
@Kurt: When given the opportunity to vote on ENDA, Ron Paul did not vote against it. He abstained from the voting on HR 3685. And not because he hates us, it is because he does not believe in federal regulations like discrimination laws of any kind.
Again, I’m not saying I would vote for him (he gets a little crazy sometimes heh). I’m just saying that the phrase “they all hate us” is not true. Just *most* of them do 🙂
“I am supportive of all voluntary associations and people can call it whatever they want.” – Ron Paul on supporting gay marriage
LandStander
@Shannon1981: “Ron Paul might be running as a Republican, but he is hardly one of them. He is simply running on a ticket he has a chance to win on.”
Ok, haha you got me there. I agree with that 100%
jeff4justice
The least damaging GOP on LGBT issues is Ron Paul so LGBTs should vote strategically and vote for Paul in primary elections if they live in states with open primaries – register as independent to do that. Remember, Obama has no primary challenger.
Don’t agree? Then who is the least damaging GOP that is polling as viable?
Otherwise?, if you do not want to vote strategically and actually want to vote conviction based on the political parties that are actually 100% pro-equality, LGBTs should vote for Green, Peace & Freedom, or Libertarian candidates.
Shannon1981
@LandStander: I don’t take as much issue with Ron Paul as I do the others, but workplace protections are a HUGE deal. People get FIRED FOR BEING WHO THEY ARE. They lose their livelihoods and their homes…I guess I just don’t understand gay people supporting any of these jokers. I can only take solace in the fact that not one of them has a snowball’s chance in hell of beating Obama.
Jeff
I’m certainly NOT going to vote for Obama again, he’s NOT a ‘fierce advocate’ for LGBT rights at all and is an empty suit.
Spike
@Jeff: As extreme as the teabaggers. So don’t vote for Obama, and if one of the clown teapublicans becomes President, and the next two Supreme Court nominations are bible beating corporate conservatives, you won’t have to worry about LGBT rights, because there will be NONE. At which point, I would imagine you will be so proud of yourself.
Jeff
I’m not being extreme at all about Obama, LGBT people as a whole do not like him and he’s not doing anything for LGBT rights even if he’s pretending to. Too bad Obama doesn’t have any balls and is just a puppet. American politics are a joke I don’t support any of the candidates.
tjr101
@Jeff: Please don’t whine and complain if you get screwed by crappy policies over the next 4 years, remember you didn’t vote. There is no such thing as a perfect candidate.
The GOP as a whole is quite frankly very disgusting and can rot in hell for all I care!
ewe
That fool is not conscious of the fact that many family members and friends of gay people will not be voting for him either. Historian my asshole.
ewe
@tjr101: where is it that Jeff said he didn’t vote?
ewe
@Spike: oh bullshit. You know there is absolutely nothing more hypocritical than extremists like you who imitate the exact fucking filth you condemn.
ewe
Spike: I have no plans on voting for the Bummer either. That’s just too damn bad and tough for you that you smug judgemental self has a problem with it. The right to vote protects people like me from people like you as well. Btw that log in your eye is not a crystal ball.
B
QUEERTY’s last link claimed , ‘;Gingrich is in free fall, despite having taken a pledge to “defend traditional marriage,”‘
Gingrich’s problem is that he is so supportive of traditional marriage that he’s had three of them, and ended up having to sign a “no adultery pledge.” This didn’t seem to bother him, perhaps because he doesn’t seem to take the promises he makes very seriously anyway. Aside from that, his “free fall” is due to some negative campaigning, in this case with a ring of truth to it.
As former San Francisco mayor Willie Brown quipped, “Newt has so many skeletons in the closet that he could fill a graveyard and still have some left over for dancing on Halloween.” Willie Brown meanwhile does not have any skeletons in his closet, mainly because he doesn’t have a closet. When his long-term girlfriend became pregnant, he announced that their child would be well cared for, and there was no stink about it – not in San Francisco – just some wry comments like, “doesn’t he know about birth control?” Of course, Willie never claimed to be a paragon of virtue, so nobody held any expectations that he would act like he was.
declanto
Ron Paul avoids the true issues of marriage equality and LGBT rights by foisting them off to the States’ right to legislate h8 laws. However he may personally assure you he’s all for our equal rights, he’s saying basically “you’re on your own.”
LandStander
@declanto: Because the Constitution does not entitle the federal government the right to dictate laws about behavior or association in his view. Yes, it is an extreme case of “you’re on your own”. If you do not like it, move to another state. The problem with his line of thinking there, is a new Jim Crow era. I know he wants to let the state decide even on things like outlawing sodomy (he is against Lawrence v Texas). I’m also curious if he feels the same way about other issues like interracial marriage, women’s rights including voting. What if a state suddenly wants to jail left handed people? (Not just for *being* left handed of course, for *using* their left hand, since that is the choice). But I still think he’s better than a Bachmann presidency haha.
Queer Supremacist
Hussein Obama or Newt Gingrich? That’s like choosing between a beating or a stabbing.
Fred Karger 2012. No more breeders, no more goyim.