Even Iraq + Afghanistan Veterans Don't Give a Damn About Serving With Gay Soldiers
 
 

Military readiness and the mental well-being of soldiers is why Pentagon officials aren't budging much Don't Ask Don't Tell, right? Even though the military's own research shows gay soldiers aren't a problem? Oh, and this: even enlisted soldiers don't give a shit about serving with gays.

Relays RAND study co-author Laura Miller, who looked at a poll from 2006 from Zogby International (generally considered one of the more conservative-leaning pollsters) of 545 U.S. service members, including all military branches and various ranks, who had served in Iraq or Afghanistan: "Service members said the most important factors for unit cohesion and readiness were the quality of their officers, training and equipment. Serving with another service member who was gay or lesbian was not a significant factor that affected unit cohesion or readiness to fight."

They're talking about people like Iraq vet Darren Manzella, kicked out under Don't Ask Don't Tell, but who was just as capable as his comrades in serving this country. (via)

 
 
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Comments (6)

No. 1 · Mike L.

Come on guys call all your reps and tell them to repeal DADT, and pass ENDA. Once there are out soldiers serving in the military we can argue much strongly about gay marriage since out soldiers' families are being discriminated against b/c of DOMA since these people are risking their lifes for our our country and aren't getting all the guaranteed equal rights in the contitution.

Posted: Nov 10, 2009 at 2:35 pm
No. 2 · chuclav

I just turned 49. I served in the AF back in the early to mid 80's, long before DADT and I have to say I thought the passage of DADT was a huge mistake. There weren't many serving who were more out then I and I didn't find the stint difficult at all. Being good at my job and meeting the military's needs seemed all that was required of me (anecdotal at best I know). I don't see removing DADT from the UCMJ as being something that will automatically bring about the repeal of DOMA. Those who don't care to learn about the constitution and what went into its creation, specifically the 9th and 14th amendments, will see equality in the military as reason to defend DOMA more voraciously. That being said, both need to go and anything that moves this country more closely to full equality and the ideals of the founding fathers is progress. I admire Mr. Manzella and concur with his assessment of the future of the military ounce DADT is dead.

Posted: Nov 10, 2009 at 3:19 pm
No. 3 · Kevin

My hats off to you Darren. That was a stupid law passed by slick Willy that should have NEVER hit his desk.

All the best to you!!

Posted: Nov 10, 2009 at 11:33 pm
No. 4 · dontblamemeivotedforhillary

Bring them ALL home for the holidays!

Posted: Nov 10, 2009 at 11:34 pm
No. 5 · Jake the libertarian

I have worked in war zones with soldiers many times. Many of my very best friends still serve in the military. I cannot think of a single example in which unit cohesion would be affected by an openly gay soldier. Most gay soldiers are open among their friends (i.e. the people they serve with) in the military anyway. Everyone already know who is gay… Their bosses know and their subordinates know… The only rule is that they can get kicked out if they talk about the big pink elephant in the room. It's insane.

Posted: Nov 11, 2009 at 1:23 pm
No. 6 · David

God hes still cute. Other then that its very brave of him to serve his country proud even though its discriminates against his very own minority.

Posted: Nov 12, 2009 at 1:49 am
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