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Ex-Ex-Gays: Meet The People Who Tried To “Cure” You

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Ted Haggard

Half ex-ex-gay.

Not to be un-Christian about a “pastor,” but this guy’s either a confused douchebag or a lying one. His sexual soap opera has been the subject of an HBO doc, countless TV interviews from Oprah to Dateline (not the Predator edition, though there was the case of young Grant Haas, “masturbation witness”), even an appearance on Divorce Court. Haggard was a hugely popular evangelical pastor in Colorado until 2006, when a male escort alleged “Pastor Ted” had been paying him for sex and crystal meth for the previous three years. A few days later Haggard was out, of his job, that is. His wife stuck with him, he’s got a new ministry, and he told GQ a couple years ago: “”I think that probably, if I were 21 in this society, I would identify myself as a bisexual.” Yeah, we’ve all been bisexual, Ted.

By:           Greg Owen
On:           Jun 21, 2013
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  • 26 Comments
    • WayDifferent
      WayDifferent

      Gays needs to take a look in the mirror at their own “glossy” for a $ too.

      Signed, Gay

      Jun 21, 2013 at 4:14 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • yaoming
      yaoming

      Let’s not forget psychologist and Southern Baptist minister George Rekers and his rentboy.com “baggage handler”?

      Jun 21, 2013 at 4:31 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Nick Bolt
      Nick Bolt

      That’s not the right photo for Robert Spitzer. That photo is of Robert J. Spitzer, the priest, not Robert L. Spitzer, the psychiatrist.

      Jun 21, 2013 at 7:06 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • 1EqualityUSA
      1EqualityUSA

      Living authentically, when others will hate you for it, takes a huge amount of courage. Orientation can’t be, “cured.” What a long, strange trip it’s been. These pitiable people have tried so hard to win the love of others, of God, of themselves. Be real, create family, and don’t lie to be loved for something you are not. Futility bites.

      Jun 21, 2013 at 8:06 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jackhoffsky
      Jackhoffsky

      My mother isn’t on the list…

      Jun 21, 2013 at 9:15 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • KJ
      KJ

      It isn’t accurate to include Peterson Toscano in a list of people who attempted to “cure” other LGBT people. While, as you pointed out, he spent a great deal of time and money to change his sexual orientation, he did not head up a ministry to attempt to do so for others.

      Jun 21, 2013 at 10:37 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Taliaferro
      Taliaferro

      I came out in 1969. I realized that my sexual orientation was same sex and that to try to change that would mean fighting myself my entire life. I did that in Iowa at age 19. Certainly it took courage. I lost some friends who turned out not to be friends at all. I faced some discrimination. Yet I never ever hated myself and my sexuality. As the years went by, I learned I had an uncle who was gay and a first cousin who is a lesbian. I will always believe that sexuality is genetically determined. No one chooses whom he or she loves. No one chooses a “lifestyle” that will result in him or her being reviled, attacked and given the status of a second class American. The charlatans who make money in this so called therapy are the real villains.

      Jun 21, 2013 at 10:42 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • balehead
      balehead

      It’s all about the money…as always…

      Jun 21, 2013 at 10:50 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      Actually Chambers didn’t take back anything, he again underlined his belief in what the Bible says about gays, AND he and all his buddies from Exodus are forming a new group.

      This guy eviscerates Chambers Apology in an open letter.

      http://johnshore.com/2013/06/20/who-would-suggest-that-exodus-internationals-apology-isnt-sincere/

      Jun 21, 2013 at 11:26 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ogre Magi
      Ogre Magi

      Christians are our enemies! Always have been, always will be!

      Jun 21, 2013 at 1:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • KJ
      KJ

      @Ogre Magi: Many, but not all Christians, Ogre. I’m a Christian (Episcopal flavor) and out gay man. It’s not a dichotomy, though many on both sides would like to make it so. Life’s too short for that.

      Jun 21, 2013 at 2:01 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • unclemike
      unclemike

      Marcus Bachmann actually said barbarians need to be “disciplined,” which is even gayer.

      Jun 21, 2013 at 2:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • mz.sam
      mz.sam

      @balehead: Well said: You’ve hit the funding buck on the head!

      Jun 21, 2013 at 5:02 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • hf2hvit
      hf2hvit

      “He’s the husband of former congresswoman and presidential candidate Michelle [Bachmann]”

      He’s the husband of Congresswoman and former presidential candidate…

      Jun 21, 2013 at 6:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • daniwitz13
      daniwitz13

      some noted Agency should take a poll, Question: To both Gays and straights, If there was a way to tell Homosexuality in or before Conception, would you choose, Homosexuality? This being only a choice factor without going into complex angles like abortion, etc. Why not to understand Homosexuality? Pity.

      Jun 21, 2013 at 6:15 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • michaelroy
      michaelroy

      @Cam: nothing worse than self-hating gays, which Chambers is in my opinion. It’s like self-hating blacks or self-hating jews. Only question is how has he been so good at keeping the man or men in his life under wraps (maybe it’s one of those what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas organizations). He’s definitely caused irreparable harm to a lot of people over the years. only solution is to finally out him, which will happen at some point. Maybe then he’ll just walk away, but I’m sure if that happens, he’ll just spin it and keep this mess going.

      Jun 21, 2013 at 8:19 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • LadyL
      LadyL

      @Cam: Just read John Shore’s open letter and it is making me view the Big Apology with a whole new set of eyes. Everyone here should read this and then decide how genuine Mr. Chamber’s expressed regret truly is; thanks Cam for the link.

      Jun 21, 2013 at 8:23 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MickeyP.
      MickeyP.

      It’s just so sad that people put themselves through all this. What a waste of time. Hopefully,one day this won’t be the case. I’m glad I came out 1n 1978,at 16 and never looked back. I never had to hide or deal with internalized homophobia. I guess I’ve been lucky. My family is mostly great with it.( one sister,who lives in Texas,is a huge bigot! Go figure!)

      Jun 21, 2013 at 11:53 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • bcbear4u
      bcbear4u

      Waste of TIME? What a waste of MONEY!!!!

      Jun 22, 2013 at 1:30 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Pete
      Pete

      hysterical that john paulk is basically ‘johan paulik’!

      Jun 22, 2013 at 1:36 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Pete
      Pete

      While I agree that Theodora Haggard’s full of shit, I feel like the writer, like so many gays, is being dismissive of bisexuality, which trust me is very real.

      Jun 22, 2013 at 1:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • multitasker
      multitasker

      @Pete: Precisely what I was going to say. If he is bi and no longer spewing bigotry, then that’s his business. I still reserve the right to call him an ass for being an ass, though. Kudos to the jerk if he has come to terms with being bi. If every public person could accomplish such self honesty and identify openly, it would be a non-issue among the general populace.

      Jun 22, 2013 at 8:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • multitasker
      multitasker

      @daniwitz13: If you’d asked me that same eugenics-oriented question the first year or so after I came out, I would have said I’d rather not have to be queer. Then I got used to it and decided I probably WOULD opt to be gay—better yet, to let the dice fall as they may. Regarding the rhetoric of a nasty homophobe, I once said to my mom that I hoped that their child would turn out to be gay. My mom first tried to reprimand me for saying something “that terrible;” but then she brought it up a couple of months later to apologize and tell me she understood and agreed. The world needs to celebrate diversity, not condemn it.

      Jun 22, 2013 at 8:20 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Hermes3X
      Hermes3X

      Rather than Ex-Ex Gay, would a more appropriate moniker be: ‘Re-gay’?

      I mean, “Ex-Ex” is a mouthful, and I have the feeling we are going to be saying it a lot from now on.

      Jun 23, 2013 at 11:28 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • OBakke
      OBakke

      @KJ: It isn’t accurate to include Christine Bakke in a list of people who attempted to “cure” other LGBT people, either Christine Bakke is an ex-gay survivor who co-founded Beyond Ex-Gay with Peterson Toscano. While Christine did move to Denver and spend four years trying to “change” by Exodus’ standards and more, she never participated in any of the “curing”. She has been an ex-ex gay activist for many years through beyond ex-gay, interviews including Glamour Magazine, Diane Sawyer, numerous radio programs and news outlets as recent as this past Thursday regarding Alan Chambers. Christine has been happily married to her wife (that would be me) for almost three years and continues to be an activist for many LGBT issues. Recently helping Colorado’s largest LGBT lobbying group, One Colorado in their fight for civil unions, LGBT healthcare, etc. All along with her work with Beyond Ex-Gay.

      Full story here: http://www.queerty.com/ex-ex-gays-meet-the-people-who-tried-to-cure-you-20130621/#ixzz2X6GmLDBV

      Jun 23, 2013 at 11:28 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • roniboi
      roniboi

      Small correction: Michele Bachmann, sadly, still has at least a year in office so she is not yet a “former” congresswoman.”

      Jun 24, 2013 at 12:04 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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