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I’m disgusted by bears in the way only a person who must tame his body with excessive dieting and waxing can be.
I’ve had to walk through hellfire to become a twink, and seeing them revel in fat and hair makes my stomach churn.
I am disgusted by twinks so the feeling is mutual ;)
Gary – Your comment is not only repulsive but its the reason why we have so many subcultures in the gay community.
I like my bears in all shapes and sizes… the majority are not obese… anything in the extremes is wrong so whether a stick twink like you or a beached whale – neither is right….
I think (I HOPE) that Gary Indianna’s comment was meant as sarcasm, and more of an indictment of his own body image than an actual attack against the Bear Community (my own use of capitalization and it stays). In which case it was some of the more subtle and obtuse use of irony I’ve seen.
At least that’s my hope.
Dude, at the end of the day, everybody’s got their preferences and is capable of being themselves rather than become what other want them to be. By saying that you find bears disgusting because of fat and body hair, you’re not exactly doing any favors for yourself. If anything, it makes you sound like a shallow, pretentious and health obsessed douchbag. Not saying that there’s anything wrong with being a twink, mind you, but there’s no need to put yourself on a pedestal for it.
Get a grip guys. Gary’s comment was poorly worded sarcasm (I’m 99% sure it was anyway).. I’m guessing he may be a bear himself.
Something you should know Gary from Indiana! You really need to study your “gay” history. It’s people like Bears; drag queens; transexuals; hookers; and dikes that made it possible for you to bring your scrawny, opinionated; hate-filled; stuck-up; self-centered; narcissistic self to this site to spread your hate-laced venom for a people you DON’T understand!!! the FREEDOM to enjoy being able to walk the streets; practice your homosexual lifestyle without fear of retaliation by the world! Bears.. YES big hairy men were and ARE part of the culture you have the FREEDOM to enjoy…
So remember that the next time your strutting your carb-free… emaciated… fashion-laden… self-important most oftentimes “drugged out” body down the street to your gay bar or gym…. Remember the very people you would call on to protect you from the hatred of the world.. Whether it be Bear or not.. Remember those who fought for you to do that.. and maybe… just maybe… you can afford a Bear his day of fun!!!
……………………………..but I doubt it.
The movie looks adorable. I can’t wait to see and no I’m not a bear nor am I “into” bears although I completely get why many guys are. There are plenty of flavours for all of us without resorting to cruel, mean and judgmental bashing. Putting down others is just a sign that one is not really secure with themselves. Low self esteem. Finding self esteem via comparison shopping might seem easy but it has a very short shelf life because it’s based upon fleeting illusions. What’s inside is where it’s at. To those who think it’s elsewhere go inside and take a look. You might find what you are really looking for.
thank goodness for Bears, Bull Lez, Daddies, Trans, Same-sex Parents, & the rest of the pack — choice & variety are what you see in everyday American life ! Tired of constant pic’s of gym freaks and the self-absorbed perception it sends out on male gay life — the majority of us folks don’t look or behave like this !
the 1st Bear movie was funny & I liked the older / younger relationship storyline – hope #2 also has some good laughs !
No. 7 · Michael Preston wrote, “Something you should know Gary from Indiana! …”
Err, I think Gary was making an attempt at satire, which is difficult to do well.
There are plenty of reasons to try to keep your body fat at the 1 to 3 percent level, such as enjoying activities where being in very good physical shape makes a big difference in how well you do.
Bear City movies suck and are a total joke, and the men in them are not “Bears” at all; but as someone else wrote in another bear post here the whole bear scene is totally changed and now you have ex twinks and guys who don’t know the first thing about actually being masculine who grow very light facial hair and call themselves a “Bear” or “cub” and then they open up their mouths and purses fall out.
@Gary Indianna: I too do not support the bear lifestyle. It is not a good image for us.
Each to his own buddy, but from my vantage down here at the bottom of the world, I MUST AGREE!
I am nearly 60 years old and still have my 29 waist and hit the gym to maintain everything 5 days per week.
When trainers come up and ask to see my abs or ask about my regimen, well that is part of my payoff for gate keeping my body.
However this is really not the point I want to make, (just sayin’).
If weekends like this exist in P-town; it makes me wonder why the coach from Penn State could not have found his way there instead of forcing himself on straight boys that have since turned like Ebony pythons……………….
JeffSydney is a rac!st fuck, and the men who Sandusky molested were ALL white! Plus Sandusky is a pedo he’s not gay or bisexual.
@Brandon: Explain how anything he said was even a little “ra cist.” Go ahead.
Appreciate the recommendation. Let me try it out.
@Colin: Not a good image for us? So we need a fucking mascot now? Individuals should represent themselves, not an entire community.
@Jabaroo: Exactly. Which is why bears should be removed from the gay community and represent themselves as individuals.
@Jabaroo: Well said. I hate the way some try to saddle the representation of all gay people on the shoulders of every gay individual or sub-group.
If they care that much what society thinks of us they may as well go back in the closet.
Wow… over the top feelings for a sub culture. It takes all kinds folks. We’re all part of the species. We’re all part of the gay community. We’ve certainly had movies that represent other sub cultures. What’s the problem with a couple movies about the bear community… historically one of the most accepting sub cultures of the gay community as a whole, with more realistic expectations and broad definition of what a gay man is and can be. Let’s get over the hate inducing insecurities… please.
@Colin: Perhaps we should just remove you from the gay community, it’s a much easier solution.
My favorite bear is Ron Suresha, who writes bear books galore. I’m a sleek silver otter, and love it. Bears opened the queer world to diversity, manliness, softness, hardness, fun, food, stomachs, big biceps (love ‘em!), heavenly armpits, great thighs, broad firm asses, and lots of hairy-chested lusciousness. I’ve been going for bears ever since I was about fourteen years old, growing up in Savannah, GA, with beer bellies, good ol’ boys, and visions of cocksucking out in the swamps. Here’s to Bears, long may they gather and growl. Perry Brass, author of King of Angels, a gay, Jewish, Southern coming-of-age novel set in Savannah, GA, in 1963.
Spike-Excuse me? It’s not the “Gay community” it’s the LGBT community as there are bisexuals and trans people who are not gay/lesbian. Then again what else can we bisexuals and trans people expect from G&L people but bisexual and trans erasure, biphobia/transphobia, and being thrown off the bus?
@GinaSF: C’mon. It might be the LGBT political alliance / LGBT voting block / LGBT interest group. But “community”? Please. Gay men’s community is other gay men. Lesbians’ community is other lesbians. The alphabet soup is merely a matter of maximizing our push in the current American political climate.
(As for transsexuals and bisexuals, I don’t know what their communities are; would love some feedback on the subject. I would, however, be surprised if transsexuals’ and bisexuals’ “communities” were gay men and lesbians.)
@William Turner I agree with you. We have a large group of communities that try to come together as LGBT to make our voices heard. It, in itself, is not a community as the groups that make it up are. As for those that hate bears and think we’re a bad image, we didn’t ask to represent and why should we be removed from the gay community and become our own? We’re still gay, that doesn’t change. I found the bear community to be the most accepting, when I first came out they were the only ones to show me any kindness. I was shunned by many in the LGBT world. That was many years ago though, and it is getting better, but still many still go to their sub-groups to feel safe and accepted. Those that spit hate towards any group are the ones keeping us from loving each other. Some fear they will not be accepted outside their group, some have no group or support and fear they never will. I can only speak from my own experiences, and those I’ve been told about. GinaSF, I know being bisexual or transgender is hard, it has to be. Gays have a group, lesbians have a group. Like William I am not sure Transgenders and Bisexuals have a group, and I know you must feel scared of ridicule from other groups. It’s horrible and I hope one day it will not be that way. LGBT needs to become a community, one that supports everyone, and help everyone to stand and be proud of who they are. I am considered a bear, and I’m proud of that, I am gay and I am proud of that, I am also a person who fights for those who cannot fight for themselves and I am proud of that.
@Josh F: Queerty needs to get a like button.
Wow, dischord and hated is not needed in the GLBTQ community in 2012.
Accepatance of who you are as you are is needed. God made you the way you are
don’t try to change it.
I saw the sequel in P-Town and it was great. Much better than the original one.
A emotional and deep story line between Roger and Tyler. Great opening and surprise ending. I do not agree with all the outcomes at the end, but still a very entertaining
movie worth your time.
@Jabaroo: Thank you so much, that means a lot to me. @Mike D Boston USA: You are very right, but it still exists. It’s hard to believe. As for the movie, the only thing that disappointed me was the fact that the main character chose the most fit of the bears to fall for. It kinda throws the whole “I like big guys” idea out the window. I do like that there was a couple with a thinner guy and a really large guy that were so much in love. I am looking forward to seeing what they do in the sequel.
@Josh F Yes, I agree with you. In first Movie there are also some “Flaws” that take place. We also see the division too of the Bear Culture being divided by the “Muscle Bears” and other average Bears. This is also revisited in Bear City 2 Movie. It looks like some of the main characters are not “Bears” but more Bear Chasers, Otters, ect. So Bear is more of a image/mental thing and not a truly physical body thing.
@Jabaroo: I volunteer to help with the removal
This looks hilarious! Loved the first one.
@Josh F: Beautifully said, Josh F; thank you for that. I notice it can get awfully nasty on this site from time to time, with people really going at each other, which saddens me because there’s still so much nastiness in the larger world directed at all of us.
I think I agree with Jabaroo–Queerty needs a like button! :-)
This movie has nothing at all to do with “Bears” Hell the one main character is a clean shaven twink!
Yes bisexuals and trans people have groups or “communities” and the bisexual “community” has been around since the late 60s and stonewall.
@B: The fact that people think 1-3% is “healthy” is part of the issue with body dysmorphia. An extremely athletic person might be 6-7%, a healthy fit person with a rocking bod would probably be 9-12%, and those “normal” guys that aren’t even slightly overweight but don’t kill themselves at the gym, they are probably 15%. You aren’t obese until you are 25%+ Yet our society tells us that we are “fatties” and don’t deserve love if can’t get into the single digits.
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