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Alan Turing was not arrested for “being gay”. He was arrested for loitering eith intent to commit sodomy. It has never been illegal to “be gay”.
These sodomy laws were designed to target male-male sodomy and not male-female sodomy or female-female sodomy. Women used these laws to conduct a homophobic gender war against male homosexuality.
@jimbryant: Women used these laws?
I saw this reported on SkyNews when I was channel surfing. I found it disturbing how they managed NOT to mention the fact that he was tortured by hormonal castration.
@jimbryant: Hi, why did you change your name after posting on here for years as “Jason”?
Und, do you ever wake up in the middle of the night and think, “Christ, I’m as mad as a march hare!!!”?
@viveutvivas: Tories are in power, Sky are ran by Tories. Tories tortured him.
A genuine legend, a colossal example of great British thinking. Bletchley Park is possibly my favourite place in the UK to visit. What those halfwits did to him was atrocious, and I hope their names are eventually made public.
@2eo: And it wasn’t just Turing or Great Britain in the US various methods were employed to correct homosexuality including electroshock therapy and lobotomies it was not uncommon to simply lock people up and then use them as human lab rats…Unfortunately most of the history of gay culture is spotty at best and young gays do not care one wit about any of it…I think the films And The Band Played On and Torch Song Trilogy should be required viewing for all young gay folk.
What a horrific story. Poor guy…
@jim bryant. Okay troll. Not illegal to be gay, just illegal to act on it. Gee you comment was so insightful and brought so much to the conversation.
This site needs moderation or registration and so does TR. Trolls abound.
Anyway, next time some hater says gays never do anything to contribute to society just tell them, well if it weren’t for a gay man you might just be wearing a swastiska and in 10 years you may have a rapid cancer screening thanks to a gay teenager.
Many years too late, but at least Britain is finally pardoning Alan Turing for actions that should never have been criminalized, and apologizing for having destroyed his life. It’s also good that the British government recognizes Turing’s incredible importance and genius, a pioneer in computer science, AI, mathematics, and other fields.
Jim, you lie through your teeth so hard they’ve been warn down to nubs. Which is good because it means you can’t pop your (inflatable) boyfriend when you get a little too over zealous with a bj.
@QJ201: This site *has* registration, though the moderation is often slow.
I’m not sure the point of a posthumous pardon, but there’s no harm in it at least.
Merry Christmas, Queerty.
No one uses the term “chemical castration” anymore, it’s a highly emotive term – for being given drugs to lower your libido.
It is also unclear whether Turing committed suicide – and if he did it was some time after the hormone therapy had ended.
@Donna W. Ferreira: SPAM – ignore and move on.
Professor Jack Copeland (philosophy) has questioned various aspects of the coroner’s historical verdict, suggesting the alternative explanation of the accidental inhalation of cyanide fumes from an apparatus for gold electroplating spoons, using potassium cyanide to dissolve the gold, which Turing had set up in his tiny spare room. Copeland notes that the autopsy findings were more consistent with inhalation than with ingestion of the poison. Turing also habitually ate an apple before bed, and it was not unusual for it to be discarded half-eaten. In addition, Turing had reportedly borne his legal setbacks and hormone treatment (which had been discontinued a year previously) “with good humour” and had shown no sign of despondency prior to his death, in fact, setting down a list of tasks he intended to complete upon return to his office after the holiday weekend. At the time, Turing’s mother believed that the ingestion was accidental, caused by her son’s careless storage of laboratory chemicals. Biographer Andrew Hodges suggests that Turing may have arranged the cyanide experiment deliberately, to give his mother some plausible deniability.
@fagburn, you prefer using a euphemism what they did to him? Why?
He was forcibly given estrogen, which inhibits the hypothalamic-pituitary-testes axis – in other words, it turns off the signal to the testicles to make testosterone and causes them to atrophy. That is castration. Its action on the brain causes deep depression in men. He also grew breasts. The effects may be permanent after cessation of the estrogen – the breasts certainly are and the testicles may take a long time to recover if at all, and the depression can certainly last a long time.
@AuntyChrist, everyone knows that depression, especially suicidal depression, is often disguised as “good humor”. And estrogen in large quantities causes depression due to its action on the male brain – nobody is exempt – not to mention the mental effect of permanent body shape changes and beasts.
Alan Turing was also circumcised as a child (not a baby) and deeply resented it. I feel like that may have influenced his decision to opt for the castration in some way, he was a man shamed into miserable self-destruction. So sad.
It’s maybe one of the worst violations imaginable, just don’t mess with a person’s genitals. As a guy, a gay guy to boot, I can’t imagine what it must be like to resent your dick. It sounds like a jokey thing to say but it really isn’t…it’s such an emotional, complex, important organ. I even think circumcising is just going much too far, of course it’s not as debilitating as outright castrating it’s just cruel.
There are still about 70,000 other men who were prosecuted for homosexuality and haven’t been pardoned. Many of them are still alive. What is the U.K going to do about them, I wonder.
@fagburn: It was sometime after he’d grown breasts.
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