Comments on: Find Your Neighborhood Prop 8 Supporters

By: daleandersen

daleandersen — Fri, 22 May 2009 22:37:06 +0000

The Word is, the Court will issue its opinion on Tuesday, May 26. The smart money has the Court upholding Prop 8. Party time in every pinpoint on the map!

http://tinyurl.com/Prop-8-twitter

By: Captain America

Captain America — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:41:43 +0000

@David Biritz:

Nothing? Please. What is the purpose of this map other then to harass? People should be free to exercise their political will without fear of public backlash, unless we’d like to see this country turn into a giant high school. It’s the same reason we don’t give anyone access to our voting records.

By: moretap

moretap — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:41:48 +0000

Since these addresses are public knowledge, I urge all of you to use it for good instead of evil. Send thank you letters or gifts to any of the addresses. Fight the hatred of those that would use this information to harass valuable citizens.

These people have helped keep a central pillar of Californian society free from experimentation. They have protected us from certain people forcing their morality on everyone. They have protected our diverse culture and our freedom to oppose authoritarian projects.

April is celebrate diversity month. I call on the gay community to celebrate those that are different from you. Celebrate the Conservatives, Muslims, Christians, and everyone who supported prop 8. Celebrate even those that don’t praise your actions. That is the true spirit of celebrate diversity month.

By: David Biritz

David Biritz — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:20:43 +0000

to the individual who worte this:

“No. 46 · The Truth
I would love to donate to Proposition 8. I also would love to confront some of the piece of shit gays who think it’s alright to harass people who disagree with them. I have a baseball bat for those assholes, and more…”

Do you have any clue as to why you think it is necessary for you to physically harm someone who has done NOTHING to harm you? Do you have no clue as to what your representation of yourself means? It doens’t mean that you’re the biggest, baddest, and best and “right.” It means you have only violence to retaliate with because your brain can not wrap itself around something as simple as homosexuality and the reality of human life.

By: The Truth

The Truth — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 04:25:57 +0000

I would love to donate to Proposition 8. I also would love to confront some of the piece of shit gays who think it’s alright to harass people who disagree with them. I have a baseball bat for those assholes, and more…

By: No Name

No Name — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:39:04 +0000

This is no less that Nazism all over again. We will harass, tear down people who believe different than we are. Free speech is only allowed as long as you are not intending to cause harm to someone. This is not different than yelling “Fire” in a crowded theater for the fun of it.

Two can play this game. Why not publish the people who donated to defeating Prop. 8 then. I am sure that a lot of people would like to know who you ARE!!!!!!

By: Bring it on

Bring it on — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:47:00 +0000

I’d shoot any prop 8 protester who dare come on my property!

By: No Name

No Name — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:36:37 +0000

Oh, I see. Lets broadcast everybody’s name that opposes you, but we don’t want to put our names out there so that we won’t get harrassed!

Bigots! Hypocrites!

By: John Bair

John Bair — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:13:45 +0000

This map is great. It’s good to know who the bigots are in my neighborhood!

By: XslyderX

XslyderX — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:48:04 +0000

Question…
Why wouldn’t the legislature take this up? Is there a reason the state lawmakers don’t vote on this?

By: Steve, Indianapolis

Steve, Indianapolis — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:02:57 +0000

Re: No. 38 “Notalib”:
Even folks in my home state of Indiana (now a midwestern Obama-Blue State) see through your “special rights” sophistry. The problem, Notalib, lies in your thinking that majoritarian bodies (the electorate, representative bodies thereof, etc.) are competent to pass on minority rights issues. They never have been, by definition: A majority vote will reveal the desires of the majority. Would you want a majority of east- and west-coasters deciding on your right to express your (now out-of-date and minority) midwestern opinion? I doubt it.
Given the recent landslide vote against intolerant politics like yours, you should be careful of advocating the ballot-box as the ‘decider’ for civil rights/liberties issues: Perhaps the rights you now enjoy to express your bigotry could be taken away from you precisely by the method you espouse. By your own ‘rationale’ would you then voluntarily silence your dissent, since “the majority of the people vote[d] in a certain way that is the final decision”? Would you then agree that your rights are no longer civil rights but “special rights” to which you have no entitlement as minority opinions?
Your rationale is no longer supported by the changed political environment, and could be dangerous for you and your rights. Welcome to the minority! I ask that you follow your own advice and surrender your rights forthwith.

By: Jake

Jake — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:50:01 +0000

Great! Where’s the map of Jews in my neighborhood?

By: Notalib

Notalib — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:38:27 +0000

Rachel it is a bitter pill to take and the gay community is having a hard time swallowing it. They dislike the freedom that we have in America to make decisions by the ballot box. If the majority of the people vote in a certain way that is the final decision. But the gay community thinks they have some “special right” to harass, torment and destroy peoples lives. You don’t and if the gay community continues to act in such childish and ill advice ways they are going to continue to be ignored by the majority of the people in this country.

By: Rachel Wiederhoeft

Rachel Wiederhoeft — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:28:55 +0000

It’s a bitter pill to take and they seem to not be strong enough to accept that they will now be discriminated against. We gays are discriminated against every day and must live with it. We are standing up for ourselves and proving that economic boycotts do work.

The people who donated to “Yes on 8″ need to man up and accept that they will be persecuted for their actions. I have no sympathy for the people who took away all of my joy over Obama’s election. They need to learn what it is like to live with their actions and choices. Supporting a bigoted cause DOES effect you!! They thought that because they don’t have a family member that is out or a friend who is, that their bigotry won’t come back and bite them in the butt.

It did, get over it. Without the public face of this, our country will never change. Perhaps they will think twice about their bigotry in the future.

By: patrick

patrick — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:00:50 +0000

I’ve got a though on a slightly different legal tack that could be taken to prevent suppression of the list. It seems that the reason their donations were legal at all in the first place(and not considered bribes), is because they are considered protected public, political speech. If they hide their speech, it is no longer a public political statement, and thus no longer protected.

By: XslyderX

XslyderX — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 05:15:04 +0000

I don’t believe because someone has a different opinion than someone else is a bigot. I do believe there is a lot of hateful comments on here. Definately not a way to change minds. Hate never works. As for the map, it is just a form of intimidation. It appears to be setting up targets for the ill-minded. In my opinion, that would hurt any cause and I am surprised Google would set themselves up for a possible lawsuit should, God forbid, something happen to someone. We all know how juries can be.

By: Aryan

Aryan — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:18:48 +0000

Hey, this map is fine. All is fair during war. I would guess that the same google map technology can be used to indentify the homes of homosexuals and post them online for “information purposes”. Now, that might not cause a problem for many in San Francisco, but down here in the Southern States, it might be a lot of fun. Someone should work on doing just that, In fact, I know just the guy who would love to do just that.

By: realAmerican

realAmerican — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:52:35 +0000

give it up people dont want gay marriage its a bs that this site is up. i bet theres a lot more child molesters who want gay marriage then not. just messin up the country way more then it is

By: Notalefty

Notalefty — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:51:28 +0000

Quite a map here. So in America we should list everyone’s voting records (voting with your wallets) and intimidate them because they didn’t want to vote like you or your group, whatever the cause. This is wrong and sick……. I would like to see the “other sides” sites listed to. I, for one, will use this list in the other way. I will spend my money and support these businesses in every way I can and tell them that I as a customer support their right to give money to whoever they want. If you want to live your life like this move to some island, Cuba, or hole yourself in some compound somewhere remote so you would not screw with everyone else that wants to live a peaceful life…You lost, get over it

By: Notalib

Notalib — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:26:10 +0000

@Vanhattan:”They can go to hell and i only wish we would have documented in photos all the jerks parading around with the prop 8 signs and photos of their houses, cars and kids playing in the homobigot yards.”

Only people going to hell are people like you who have such and disrespect for peoples right to disagree. Only jerks I really see are the hateful people like you and others who have put one more nail into the coffin for queer special rights.

By: Krellan

Krellan — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:35:20 +0000

Judging by the yellow signs in people’s yards, the opinions of the Yes On 8 supporters were already widely known and being intentionally advertised, so this is not an invasion of privacy.

I would support seeing a similar map for the No donors.

It’s informative to compare this map with the precinct-by-precinct Google map that somebody made by using the election results. Unfortunately I forgot the link for this, does anybody else have it?

By: Keith

Keith — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:40:45 +0000

@Vanhattan: “They can go to hell and i only wish we would have documented in photos all the jerks parading around with the prop 8 signs and photos of their houses, cars and kids playing in the homobigot yards.”

Photos of their KIDS?!? And what would you propose we DO with the photos of their children? That’s messed up man. Their kids have NOTHING to do with this issue at all, leave them out of it. That was an honestly chilling remark.

By: dalea

dalea — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:48:11 +0000

Somehow, I don’t think that the CA Secretary of State will be charged as an accesory. The list of bigots is a public document, freely available to all. People should have thought about the blowback before they donated to this hateful cause.

By: Notalib

Notalib — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:21:14 +0000

How sad that in America people are no longer allowed to have an opinion that may be different from someone else’s. Hopefully nothing happens to any of these people but if something does who ever has posted this bigoted list better be charged as an accessory.

By: Charles J. Mueller

Charles J. Mueller — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 02:42:46 +0000

@Mon:

Umm…Just when did Queerty blogs become a free classified advertising space for businesses?

By: Bruno

Bruno — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:00:26 +0000

@Mary Taylor:

Essentially, but not exactly. Civil unions in the UK may not be recognized as marriages in other countries. Therefore, it is still a second-class designation.

By: Mary Taylor

Mary Taylor — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:25:52 +0000

@Bruno: We do. It’s just not called ‘marriage’. campaigners decided not to push for marriage but go for civil unions. but our civil unions give gay couples the same rights as heterosexual ones, they just cant marry in a church. its the same essentially

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By: dalea

dalea — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:44:44 +0000

Fascinating map. This should be more widely distributed. Looking at the SFV are of LA, there were not a lot of contributors shown. Why would a law professor at UCLA and a designer for Perkins & Will donate to Prop8?

By: emissary

emissary — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:13:38 +0000

I think many people want to keep their Prop. 8 contributions to themselves for privacy reasons. Specifically, they don’t want to see their property damaged or harassment to their families (especially their children). If Bruno, for example, just wanted to see a home or talk to a family about their reasons, that’s fine. It’s if/when the “oh, the fantasies of mischief” part spills into action that homeowners tend wonder why the government makes their information so public.

By: greybat

greybat — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 06:29:02 +0000

@John: Yeah! LOOK at all the pins in Orange County!

By: Bruno

Bruno — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:06:18 +0000

@Mary Taylor:

But at the same time, the UK doesn’t have gay marriage, so I don’t think giving to a prop 8 type cause would be considered a “homophobic cause.” If it would, that’d be pretty strange.

By: lizr

lizr — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:51:41 +0000

@PearlsBeforeSwine:

You betcha~

By: Andreas

Andreas — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:33:17 +0000

Is there anyway to see the actual address? How do you get that information?

By: Mary Taylor

Mary Taylor — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:06:30 +0000

This information is amazing
In the UK we had a leak of information that was in a similar information. The member list of a far right organisation was released. Some members were police men – polcemen are not allowed to be members of this group because they are v racist, and so the police were sanctioned
Unfortunately i dont think the same type of this would happen in the states, where an employer sanctions someone for certain action, because you dont have very good anti-discriminatory laws.
if the same thing happened in the UK where such ad such a person is known to give to a homophobic cause, they’d prob lose thier job

By: Bruno

Bruno — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:00:44 +0000

I live in an area rather light in pro Prop 8 donations (Oakland), but one woman just around the corner from me did. Well, I’ll probably check out what her house looks like and stop there, but oh, the fantasies of mischief!

By: David Hauslaib

David Hauslaib — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:31:32 +0000

@Debby: You are free to vote in secret. That is your right — to step into a voting booth and make your decision, the single vote you are entitled to as an American, without anyone peering over your shoulder.

But when you donate cash to a political cause, to influence the outcome of a ballot measure, you are agreeing to abide by public disclosure statutes, which require your identity be made public. There is no choice in this matter: If you donate money (above a certain level), you agree to have your name added to the registry. It’s a practice to keep people honest, and to keep money rife with conflicts of interest out of an election.

If you are too ashamed to support a cause you believe in, because your name will be identified with your dollar amount, then put your chequebook away. But if you’re using your ability to give dollars and cents to influence an election, you absolutely should be held accountable.

If you are a doctor who donated to Prop 8, then Americans should know you tried to strip away the civil rights of others, so they can choose to take their medical care elsewhere. Same goes for lawyers, accountants, real estate agents, camera salesmen, and anybody else who want to financially support a cause that affects the public.

Do you write cheques to support an environmental issue? That should be publicly known. Are you an animal rights activist hoping to support a humane treatment measure? Then those in the leather goods and fur trades have a right to know about it.

Financial disclosure laws keep people honest. If you can’t hold your head up high after writing a cheque toward something you believe in because other people will *shudder* know about it, perhaps you shouldn’t write that cheque in the first place.

In the meantime, I invite you to read an opposing viewpoint by John Lott Jr. and Bradley Smith in the Wall Street Journal here:
http://online.wsj.com/article/.....34773.html

By: michael

michael — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:15:10 +0000

We should all have the backbone to stand up for what we believe and the actions we take on those beliefs. This is what real men and real women of courage, conviction do.
They stand tall in the face of fear. That is why you should not mind having your name published if you give to anything that has an effect upon the lives of others, if your not
willing to stand up for your beliefs, then your nothing but a coward.

Here is good reason that our actions should be brought into the light, watch what has happened to a young man in Nashville Tn.

http://www.wsmv.com/news/18442.....psp=news#-

By: Debby

Debby — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:03:09 +0000

Can a donor choose not to have their information made public? If the answer is yes then I don’t see anything wrong with this information being on the internet. If they don’t have a choice, I don’t agree with that. Where I decide to give my money is my business.

By: Vanhattan

Vanhattan — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 04:22:21 +0000

This is very interesting indeed. Up until November 5, the LDS church had a website that listed who, how much and when their church leaders donated to Yes on Prop 8. It was like a race to the top seeing who gave what and how much. Gold stars for the ones who donated the most.

So it is rather bizzare that one minute they were so glowingly proud of their evangelical hatered and just as suddenly the website wss taken down when they realized that some gay folks were not going to lay down and get run over silently.

Those assholes. They are getting what they once asked for…..recognition and accolades for supporting hate.

They can go to hell and i only wish we would have documented in photos all the jerks parading around with the prop 8 signs and photos of their houses, cars and kids playing in the homobigot yards.

They are running for the cover of darkness which is exactly where their souless and hateful hearts reside.