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Please tell me, IRS and DoJ, just WHAT THE FUCK DO THESE CULTS HAVE TO DO TO LOSE THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS!? I mean, just where is the bar?? In the Earth’s core? How low do they have to go? Where is the political will to strike back at these horrible people who preach hate and spur others to do horrible things? Why do I have to subsidize these degenerates with my tax dollars and at the same time get denied my civil rights under the tax code?
@Jay: Well said Jay.
In contemporary America the word “racism” is bandied about so often and so frivolously that it has practically lost
all meaning. However, every so often we are confronted with an ugly incident that reminds us of the ugly face of racism. This is certainly one of those incidents.
jay said it best.
It’s not even a good looking effigy. This is why those people are part of that church. They’re too talentless to find work/involvement in other fields in life. It’s kind of sad and I pity them. :)
@Jay: I like what you said but in all honesty: what will they pay the government with? Copies of the Bible? Majority of these people are poor and simple. That’s why they are so easily attracted by the delusional doctrine that supposedly ensures their “happiness” in the next life while they act like dicks in this one. Again, it is rather sad.
Why isn’t the Secret Service paying this guy a visit when they visited people expressing a dislike for George W. Bush for a lot less? Seems like a double standard.
Even in Florida, hanging a person in effigy has got to be illegal. Has anyone asked the FBI if they have started an investigation?
@B: Because he is a pastor and religion in America is sick and twisted and untouchable. The only thing that stops a religious fanatic in America is when he gets caught dicking someone other than his wife or lately someone of the same sex. The kind of fanaticism this clown represents is not unusual in American religion.
“Mankind shall not be free until the last king is strangled in the entrails of the last priest.”
It is very clear that many so-called “churches” run by so-called “Christians”, are violating both the spirit and the letter of the law re tax-exempt status.
There are two very specific requirements:
1. The organization may not attempt to influence legislation; and
2. The organization not campaign either for or against any political candidate.
The “church” mentioned in the above article, clearly, has campaigned against Barack Obama. That is a very specific violation of the tax code.
Of course, the LDS, Catholic, Baptist, and Methodist “Churches”, also, have violated the same requirements, regularly, in recent years.
If this administration was wise, they would enforce the law to revoke the tax exemption of a few of the most outrageous, small independent “churches”. The large denominations would probably notice, and voluntarily cease and desist from further violations.
“To be tax-exempt under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, an organization must be organized and operated exclusively for exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3), and none of its earnings may inure to any private shareholder or individual. In addition, it may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates.”
No. 10 · Ruhlmann wrote, “@B: Because he is a pastor and religion in America is sick and twisted and untouchable.”
Being a pastor does not allow you to make threats against the president.
I think the difference is really how much more repressive and paranoid the U.S. was under the Bush regime. It was during the Bush presidency that the term “free speech zone” came into use, meaning an out of the way and out of sight area where protests were grudgingly allowed to congregate. People who merely had signs critical of Bush’s policies were dragged off so the president would not have to see them (and, of course, so that they would not be picked up by TV-news cameras).
If we let them squash dissent when there is a right-wing government and allow dissent when there is a moderate or left wing government, the net result is a drift towards the right wing.
Any “church” that takes a political stand loses its tax exempt status. Since this leader’s congregation has a history of acting politically, not theologically, I hope the city, county and state (and if possible, national) governments go after them for back taxes. Seize their property if they can’t pay.
Anyone looking for a welcoming church where everyone is a beloved child of God, please try a United Congregational Church or Ev. Lutheran Church in America congregation and talk to the pastor. In most of these you will be warmly welcomed.
I think SMBC sum up the whole religion thing quite nicely:
@Steve: Actually, Obama is playing it very smart. When Clinton revoked the tax exemption of a church most churches in this nation went berserk, even if they did not at all agree with the church in question they still felt they should not be attacked for stating their opinion. Like it or not, church members vote more regularly than pretty much everyone else, and attacking churches is not at all politically savvy.
Those darn Christians; they’re such a fun group.
Thanks for reporting on this Dan.
I posted it to my LGBT Group on LinkedIn and also made a comment there to spur members to read your article and to make comment. I also scooped it at Scoop.It on my LGBT Times news mashup.
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This piece of shit should be in prison for inciting violence. How many innocent people in the middle east were killed because of his burn a Qur’an day? disgusting…
This man is a Terrorist. He is terrorizing any African American, especially young men, passing this, for his own Religious and Political beliefs. He should be treated as such.
OK its official
FLORIDA IS AMERICA’S TOILET
WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK. You can’t have an HOMAGE TO LYNCHING on your front lawn! Holy shit! Can’t they treat this as a threat to the president’s physical safety or something and arrest them? I know these types of fundamentalist churches are crazy but this is genuinely shocking me. This goes far beyond their “religious freedom” or “stating a dissenting opinion”, they need to be put away.
I assume you were all equally outraged and offended when liberals were doing the same thing with George W. Bush.
@RUSH L.: No Rush, its only Northern Florida that never found out they lost the civil war. The Southern Fla is a whole other animal. When you finally get to Key west, its gay paradise. Guess that makes it a swing state.
God damn it, Gainesville. Just… god damn it. This church is making it really hard to be proud about being born where I was.
@B: y thoughts exactly. I thought it was illeagal to do or make threats to a President?
They were probably going to hang him for being black anyway, bigoted twats.
Oh I’m sure the secret service will be paying a visit. Just wish I could see the expression on the douchebags face when they do
Agree with everyone about the tax exempt status. I also wonder about their spiritual status *philosophically* Jesus is nowhere to be seen in this picture.
And does freedom of speech really cover an effigy of the President being strung like the Good Old Boy days of lynching? Isn’t that a threat, albeit implied?
Odd that he would go to a park with a 30 yr old male friend to celebrate his eighteenth birthday…
How did my my comment get here? lol
I hear you. Where to now? Tax them all…Catholics, Protestants, Muslims, Jews, Scientologists, Mormons, etc.
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