Fred Karger, soon-to-be official gay Republican presidential candidate, understands why everyone LOLs at the idea of gay Republicans. “Many leaders of the Republican Party have led the effort of gay bashing; certainly here in California going back into the 70s when I got involved,” he says in a Big Think interview. “It has been the republican elected officials, along with a few, kind of, minor celebrities who have really been the major offenders in this.” So what’s he gonna do about it? “I am trying to bring the Republican Party back to its roots of Lincoln and Roosevelt because I think it’s so important. It’s gotten hijacked by a few far right individuals that have abused the gay issue to win elections and that’s wrong. And I hope to set that record straight by considering running for president myself. And there’s a lot of basis to the Republican Party which is still very prevalent in this country; you know, less government, where as that’s contradictory to some of our leaders. But the government should stay out of our private lives, and that’s a Republican philosophy.” Which is nice and all, but if America elects Fred president, who’s going to find out that his chief target, the National Organization for Marriage, has been ramping up its fundraising and spending year-over-year?
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Fitz
And there were Jews who worked in concentration camps, betraying their own for an extra crust of bread. Nothing new.
Screaming Queen
@Fitz:
Godwins Law, YOU LOSE!
Sad too, because their are at least a dozen good arguments against gay republicans, but you went for the easy, desperate, and painfully transparent drivel so common with shortsighted zealots.
You made my gay agenda all kitten sad this morning ;0(
PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
Memo to Fred:
The vast majority of the repugnaticans barely tolerate having to have Blacks, Jews, and even women in their party. Most pine for the days when wealthy white men were basically the only citizens who could vote. It is far from a “few individuals” who have hijacked the party, it is the vast who miss the “good ole days” and now the Gay community is the only minority they are able to spew their hatred upon with basically no consequences.
Jeff
Hijacked by a few?
Karger I not only laugh at you I scoff at you. You need to face facts. The Republican Party of Lincoln and Roosevelt is DEAD. GONE. NEVER TO RETURN. And you need to admit that to yourself and pick which battle means the most to you.
Bringing back the Republican Party of the past and wasting your time and looking foolish and a traitor to boot.
Of fighting for Equal Rights for your people.
You can;t do both
adman
“a few far right individuals” LOLZ, fucking really? So let me get this straight (I know you’re so much better at that than me, so bear with me.) You’re going to reverse the southern strategy, and refute the tactics laid out by everyone William F. Buckley on down the sordid line, to bring out “true republican-ness? or something? Populism and mobs of white people are eternal in the US, and they hate us for one reason. It’s useful to them. You are not them, no matter what you tell yourself. Sorry you couldn’t separate yourself from the middlebrow assumptions that you were weaned on, but mediocrity collects around the wistful dreamer like so many dust bunnies, doesn’t it?
Clean house LGBT Repubs! Your ideas suck,the status quo is a barren wasteland because you refuse to understand that rights, including rights to participate in a market economy stem from governmental authority in a democratic republic, and you’ll never assimilate the work the left has done for LGBT’s without having your “friends” hand you your heads first, OK? just sayin’. What’s worse than a quisling first thing in the morning?
justiceontherocks
We have two viable political parties. That’s the way it is, and will be for a long time. One of them is vastly more homophobic than the other. By running as a Republican, Karger MIGHT make the GOP a more moderate party, and that would help get legislation passed we need and deserve.
Of course he’s pushing a rock up a hill. But let’s give him a chance. Nothing else has budged them, maybe this will.
tjr101
Denial is not just a river in Africa. Another gay Republican in denial of facts. The GOP base feeds off of hate for everything that is not straight, old, white, and male. Fred Karger is three of the four but that’s still not enough for the vast majority of Republicans.
Bless his heart, I’m sure Karger is well intentioned albeit misguided. The Republican party of Lincoln is dead and gone. Lincoln and Roosevelt would be considered RINO’s in today’s GOP. The day when a prominent ELECTED Repug supports and sponsors pro-gay legislation I’ll bat an eye!
Gay Republican
You know who I hate more than anti-gay Republican? Retarded gay left tools.
Keep your hands off MY money, MY guns and MY freedoms.
You go give them hell, Fred Karger!
Jeffree
@Gay Republican:
The word “retarded” is offensive. You can use the following expressions instead:
*Developmentally disabled
*Developmentally challenged
*Differently abled
*Special needs
* Tea partier
* Gay homophobe
Gay Republican
@Jeffree: If you cannot accept Gay Republicans you are a hypocritical bigot!
scribe
@Jeffree: Love you…. agree totally. @Gay Republican: If republicans stop trying to make more government by pushing anti-gay marriage laws, ban abortion and changing the u.s. constitution to bar gay marriage maybe I would take them seriously. Well maybe, a course I would want them to also stop pushing this country’s ill on black, brown, and Arab people. The gun debate is over blown ! No one wants your gun. P.S. I like my gun, don’t want yours, but given the choice between my gun and the right to marry I would take marriage.
Gay Republican
@scribe: We are here! We are GOP Queer! Get used to us!
Jeffree
@Gay Republican: We ARE used to you. The Republicans however are not. And never will be. Perhaps if you’re more strident they’ll accept you even more. Or less strident.
Hey, why isn ‘t Mary Cheney on your board?
scribe
@Gay Republican: when repubicans scream traditional family values do you believe that they are including gays, including you??? What has that party ever done to make you feel included?? Please let me know, why you feel that this mostly white, rich, religious, minority excluding party speaks to you. This party has only demonized gays. Honestly, maybe I am missing something. You have not answered any question I or others have posted… What makes you want to be an Republican. How have they earned your support?
Phillydude
there was nothing wrong with what he said. some of you are just too damn closed minded!
Gay Republican
@scribe: I support GOP because my #1 issues are lower taxes, limited government, reduced regulation and strong defense. Not to mention that I am sick of all the left-wing whiners and complainers. I disagree with the religious nuts in my party and thankfully because of groups like GOProud the so-called “family values” crowd is steadily losing influence. Go GOP!
You are stuck in your stupid bubble and keep repeating “this party has only demonized gays”. Go complain about Democrats supporting slavery, it is about as relevant.
justiceontherocks
@gayrepublican – when you compare the GOP’s current opposition to equal rights to something the democrats did in the 1850s, you really do yourself no favors.
Again, I challenge you to demonstrate one substantive accomplishment the three members of goproud have pulled off.
Sarah!
over 30% of us vote Repulican. Hate much?
Sarah!
over 30% of us vote Republican. Hate much?
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@Gay Republican: SO you prefer lower taxes over your civil rights??? A strong military that your party just fought to prevent gays from serving?? A military that was sent to war without protective armor. And i seem to re-call in 2008 and 2000 more than several states led by the repubs, to add the regulation of banning gay marriage, state by state they changed state’s laws to strip civil unions and gay marriage. Gays like me in Michigan lost the right to put my partner on my pubic service insurance.
And as a black man, let me say I am thankful for lincoln, but not for the voting record of repubs during the 60’s. It was the repubs that fought against voting rights, brown vs. board of ed, and blacks serving fully and equally in the military.
Personally, I prefer the right to vote and the right to education, over a lower tax bill. How liberal of me…
Gay Republican
@scribe: Yes, lower taxes and free enterprise is my #1 issue.
Most of these civil rights issues right now are just minor inconveniences. It is not a big deal if I can get a marriage certificate. My self-worth is not based on recognition of my relationships by the fucking government! I do not go begging for any handouts or pat on the back.
My self worth comes from within, not from approval by the government or the so-called “community”. I do not care if you or Tony Perkins hate me. There is almost no difference between the religious right and the gay left from my vantage point.
Devon
The only use I have for a gay, rethug kapo is watching them troll Tony Perkins out of the right-wing Woodstock. That was pretty funny.
Oh and it’s always amusing to watch them go gleefully running back for another helping any time one of the party higher-ups basically comes right out and tells them to fuck off and die, all the while making excuses for the party’s raging homophobia. Seriously Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Mike Huckabee, John Boner, and Dubya could all gang up and bash Christopher Barron’s skull in, and once he regained consciousness and remembered how to speak, the first thing he’d do is make a statement about how much the GOP loves gay people. These people are as hilarious as they are pathetic.
Gay Republican
@Devon: You are no different from Tony Perkins. Just as much hate and ignorance.
Jeff K.
Someone else said it here on this site in another topic: If you think tax cuts are more important than being able to marry the one you love and have the entire country recognize it as legal and valid, then you deserve nothing but contempt and ridicule.
Jeffree
@Gay Republican:
Anything you can do to help turn the incoming House/Senate freshmen into supporters of LGBT rights will be appreciated.
justiceontherocks
@GayRepublican – Marriage – recognition of relationships – carries with it a bundle of legal rights, many of them financial. It’s not a “pat on the back.”
History teaches us that a denial of civil rights is far from trivial, or, as you put it, a “minor inconvenience,” either for society or the people directly impacted.
You want to vote republican, fine, that’s your business. If the economy and a strong defense is more important to you than equality under the law, that’s fine too. But your arguments are nonsense.
Rob Moore
To all the non-Republican posters. Keep in mind that just as there are straight people who believe that families are not worth sacrificing for, there are homosexual people with the same mindset. How many straight people can you name who put themselves and their personal wants before their children? Think about Lindsay Lohan’s parents or Michael Jackson’s father. Hell, my own parents, who were most definitely heterosexual, made clear that their children were mostly an obstacle to getting laid and getting money. Gay people with similar mindsets are a perfect fit for the Republican Party. It is all about “my stuff”, “my wants”, “my convenience”. They do not have a sense of shared sacrifice, and if you pay attention, they will not sacrifice personally unless it is directly related to something tangible that they can acquire, use, or fuck.
The rest of us should simply ignore them. They are a “minor nuisance” to the must larger gay community.
Little Kiwi
let us know when your balls drop, eh?
Gay Republicans are the biggest wimps in America. Y’all vote GOP to suck up to your bigoted parents who dont’ accept you because you suck cock.
You vote GOP as an act of neutering yourselves in hopes you’ll be allowed to sit at the Big Kid’s Table at dinner.
Frankly, you guys are embarrassing.
Gay Republican
@Rob Moore: You Commies are just pathetic. Such a sorry miserable existence.
Enjoy your sense of victimhood!
Daez
@Gay Republican: What sense of victim hood. Is it more victim like to allow people to bitch slap you while you beg for more just so you can get a few more scraps of food on your table or to stand up to those that bitch slap you and say ENOUGH!
Seriously, you are willing to sell your right to marry who you love for what? If you are in the highest tax brackets, we are talking maybe an extra $5,000-$10,000 a year in the tax cuts that were passed in a BIPARTISAN measure.
So, I’m glad that your $10,000 is worth more than the happiness of you and your partner. I’m glad you are willing to give up the right to put your partner on your insurance benefits, visit them in the hospital or have your marriage recognized as anything other than an abomination by your own political party for $5,000-$10,000.
I’m sure it will come to a shock to you, but many Democrats all over the country fully support the second amendment. No Democrat has ever said we should not have a fully ready and operational military (they just debate the fact that it should be over 3x larger than that of all other first world countries COMBINED).
So, in the end, you are selling out your partner for $5,000-$10,000 a year. I don’t know about you, but if someone asked me to sell out my partner it wouldn’t happen, especially not for such a small amount.
Obama DID say DADT would happen on his watch... (John From England)
@Gay Republican:
Commies!? Says the right wing gays who MOAN all the time about how horrible the gays are and how we all need to be shot.
Daez
@Obama DID say DADT would happen on his watch… (John From England): Actually, if anything could be argued about the left wing is that it tends to support socialism. Socialism is a system of private and public ownership where the country taxes the population in order to provide for basic human needs like safety, roads, education and others.
What these people fail to realize is the United States is already a socialist nation. I know, they hate that, but it doesn’t change the truth.
Phillydude
the fact that alot of you vote strictly along party lines without truly analyzing a situation says to me you are as ignorant as the people you hate on.
Jeff K.
@Daez: Economics 101: Mixed economies ? socialism.
Collective ownership of the means of production + planned economies = socialism.
Eric
@Gay Republican: You can @Gay Republican: So are you trying to say that t Repubs of the pas are anything like the Democrats of the past. you can’t they have evolved over the history of the United States. HOW EVER COMMA, The republicans of the 80’s are the same selfish bastards then they are now. Keep your guns, Keep you money but you aren’t getting any freedoms. Cause the party you support has kept you from them. Just so you know Taxes in any system pay for your protection and the protection of those around you. Be it by Police or Fireman or the Armed Forces. I’ve watched you people eat up this country piece by piece since I was little. I watched as more corporations led with Republican zeal dismantled our industrial infrastructure. I’m not saying Democrats are perfect but they have done more good than evil since I was little. You sold off the country for your “MONEY” and then you get mad because you have to pay for sale of the soul of this country in Taxes. I don’t feel sorry for you. My sister is a Dr worked her way through school and well known. Never has she once bitched for giving back. Everything my parents worked hard for they gave back to better others so that others might have a chance they were given. They aren’t Greedy and selfish.
missbaby4love
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ewe
@missbaby4love: No you may not. OCD is not a turn on for me.