QUIT BLAMING STRAIGHTS FOR GAY HATE, OBVIOUSLY GAYS HATE EACH OTHER MORE…..

Another member of the intelligentsia shouts his moribund opinion into the room, as if we are all deaf.

It appears that way.

I just don’t understand why we’re so behind the rest of the more progessive nations and claiming to be number one.

That makes two of us, my friend. I keep asking myself that same question daily.

Odd isn’t it for a country that has no state religion? Odder but extraordinary is that a country sucn as Spain with a powerful state Roman cult gets marriage quality passed, Belgium too and Holland (the first) that is almost 50% catholic. I just don’t understand why we’re so behind the rest of the more progessive nations and claiming to be number one. That myth has thankfully been put to rest by seven countries thus far. I predict Denmark will be next, maybe Iceland.

In fact, the beauty of science is that having all of the answers is impossible, for it’s a constant process of questioning the answers we have and asking new questions for which we don’t hae answers.

Certainly the supernatural dogmas based on nothing more than the fanciful creations of an author are less likely to be explanations for the way things are than careful investigation and testing of our environment.

NO ONE KNOWS ALL THE ANSWERS. NO ONE. Not you, Not Science, not the Pope, not Barney. NO ONE. You cannot answer the most central question to human existence. WHY are we here? Science can answer the HOW, eventually. I have no doubt of that because I understand the scientific method and respect it. Though we still have no proof of abiogenesis or any explanation of how it could have occurred, we’ll eventually know the how. That said, Science has nothing to explain the WHY.

Nor does it explain what, if anything, happens to US when we die. We know about what happens to the body. It rots, decomposes, is consumed and goes back to the earth providing we don’t use ridiculous means to preserve the body past death. But what about what makes us US? Call it a soul, call it a mind, call it pneuma, call it whatever you like. We are self aware in a way that no other species on the planet is. Why?

You’re content with not bothering with that kind of questioning. Fine. Others are not. That does not make them less than you. That does not make THEM better than you.

We get it. You think you have ALL the answers and anyone who doesn’t kiss your ass is an idiot to be pitied. We get it. It’s nothing new. It’s the attitude all Mullahs have, and it’s the attitude all Zealous Atheists have as well. That is the ONLY point of similarity between mullahs, priests and atheists…the SURETY that they alone are right, and everyone else is to be pitied, mocked and/or killed for their opposing views.

So, Tank? Please, take your little point-by-point asshattery and go blow Richard Dawkins, kay? I’m done with you. I’ve said my piece. I’ve explained myself in terms a child can understand. If you wish to continue mocking people because it makes your ego feel better, do so.

I’m done.

What is this nuanced view? Do you have a falsifiable religious claim you’re making? Of course not. Do you have a single reason to recommend faith in any of the supernaturalist claims you could make or belief in any of the god or gods you believe in? Is there a single question that is not already answered or could be answered that has any meaning at all, by science or the scientific method?

Who said otherwise? Define this thing you believe in, then. Do that, and see if you any reason for believing in it. It’s as epistemically vacuous, once you put definition and meaning to what you’re saying as believing in pasta monster. But hey, go ahead. Be irrational.

Trust in Science does not – as the large number of scientists and doctors who believe in God proves – preclude belief in a higher power.

No, it doesn’t. It’s just a fair amount of them don’t believe in god or are religious. But many religious claims are inconsistent with scientific ones.

The only people claiming that either case is true are the insane mullahs of the desert faiths on one side and the pridefully self-righteous atheists on the other side.

LOL! No, there’s no comparison between atheists and mullahs, as atheism is not a religion or a view about the world. It’s not atheists who are fueling the flames of dischord between science and faith, keep that in mind–memorize it. Atheists don’t do that because there’s nothing inconsistent with their views and science. Not so with religion. Supernaturalism and naturalism are not compatible once supernaturalism makes claims about what is the case without any means of verifying it.

Belief in God does not automatically mean belief in the CHRISTIAN God, or the Muslim Allah, or any specific God. It means God. Period. Something higher than us.

Trust in Science does not – as the large number of scientists and doctors who believe in God proves – preclude belief in a higher power.

The only people claiming that either case is true are the insane mullahs of the desert faiths on one side and the pridefully self-righteous atheists on the other side.

Grow from love.

God, I love America.

Everything has to be one or the other, no nuance, no layers. I either believe in science, and therefore, am damned to hell by one side of the argument, or I believe in faith, and therefore, am a rube to the other side.

Fuck both sides. I happen to take the more nuanced view of the world than either the hard-core religionists or hard-core atheists can seem to comprehend. The view that science handles the physical side of human existence, and faith handles the spiritual side and neither needs to be in conflict. A view which the majority of the world agrees with, by the way, fuck-you-very-much.

More’s the pity for you guys. Enjoy spreading misery in Science’s name or Jesus’ name. Either way, you come out a huge tool.

Faith is bullshit.

Hoping for something to happen with no evidence that it ever will.

Believing in something that doesn’t exist.

Praying to someone/something you cannot see.

Basing one’s whole life on smoke and mirrors and diaphanous theories and belief systems that have no substance.

Try running a profitable business on the faith that you will make money even if the product you are selling is totally worthless and no one wants it?

Or maybe, you could send a rocket to Mars navigating on faith alone?

Try re-growing a missing arm or leg using faith?

Swim across the Atlantic ocean because you have faith that God will get you across it safely.

Have faith that we will one day again, see 25 cent per gallon gasoline and a five cent cup of coffee.

Have faith that you will never get cancer, arthritis or any other debilitating disease. That only happens to other people who havew no faith.

Meh!

Actually, it is. You don’t have a point. Now shut the fuck up! Science is interesting, and if you disagree, fuck you.

Keep talking, keep mocking. It’s not me who looks like a tool, Tank.

And Schlukitz? Again, where did I mention RELIGION? Not once. I said faith. The two are not mutually reliant. I have faith in a bigger picture, but I’m not part of any religion. SO, please, bring up Christianity and all that again. It’s as pointless as your attempts at humor.

I’m done discussing this with you both. If anyone with an iota of consideration and a modicum of respect for their fellow man – whether they agree with everything I stated or not – wishes to comment, feel free.

There is only harm in using your faith (or lack of faith) as a bludgeon to beat people with differing opinions down.

Please, folks, keep digging a hole for yourselves by doing just that.

That’s all, folks!

You’re right that there’s nothing wrong with believing that supernatural non scientific stories are the case…well, there is epistemically (and there’s a war right now about “creationism” being taught in SCIENCE CLASSES in the united states, and has been for decades….humiliating) because it’s highly irrational. But if it weren’t for the harm it DOES CAUSE to believe in these highly irrational fictions, then have at it. I have said before on countless occasions that i Have no problem with the jains…they’re quite literally the most harmless people on the planet because of their religion. Of course, the content of their faith (Their beliefs) are all fairytale nonsense…but they should believe whatever they want so long as it doesn’t cause harm…

but religion does cause harm…christianity is harmful, and so is islam and judaism.

How can the lack of something be used as a weapon? That’s like shooting a gun that doesn’t exist at your imaginary friends…ROTFLMAO!

Please. Not ONCE did I say we give them a pass. What you and Tank are deliberately missing is that I believe faith (or lack of faith) used as a weapon is wrong.

Again, to make my point, there is NOTHING wrong with believing in some greater purpose to life than basic biological functions until cessation of said functions.

If it gives people comfort and encourages them to act more selflessly, where’s the harm? There is only harm in using your faith (or lack of faith) as a bludgeon to beat people with differing opinions down.

Please, folks, keep digging a hole for yourselves by doing just that.

That hubris and pride that you know all the answers.

While we give a pass to Christianity, Judaism and Islam…who ALSO know all the answers.

The port calling the kettle black?

That last sentence was not intended for you, Tank.

It was intended for all of the PDPs. LOL

There is a lot to be thankful for without need of god or any supernatural explanation.

Though I am not a religious person, to that, I will say “Amen”.

Why is it so hard for purpose driven people (Hey, another acronym…PDPs) to see that?

Why must there always be a purpose…for everything? Can’t something exist for the sheer joy of being?

Does a beautiful butterfly give a good shit “Why” it is here?

Does a rose give a damn “why” it exists?

And, if God does exist, does she need to explain it…or have a reason for being? For all we know, the whole thing could be a fucking joke.

Give it a rest!

That hubris? LOL! No, we just don’t believe that the entire universe was created for us. That there’s a bunch of unsubstantiatable prescientific rubbish about what we are as people that’s magically true for no good reason (and that’s inconsistent with the laws of physics)…and that there’s a beneficient skydaddy who loves us. But it’s OUR HUBRIS. Our lack of belief in these things is hubris…

My faith in nothing…so what you mean instead is my absence of faith is just as strong as fred phelp’s faith…how can my lack of faith be strong? LOL!

And see, THAT attitude right there is why Atheists will always be on the sideline. That hubris and pride that you know all the answers.

Your faith in nothing is as strong as Fred Phelps faith in a hateful God.

You deserve each other.

I think wittgenstein said it best.

“The real question of life after death isn’t whether or not it exists, but even if it does what problem this really solves.”

You have no reason to believe it exists, and reason to believe it doesn’t, though–that the naturalist explanation (which doesn’t assert or rely on a soul to live on) is false, that souls exist in spite of this explanation…that the entire natural order is suspended for the existence of your soul, so it can live on.