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	<title>Comments on: Gay Activist Allen Roskoff Lets It All Out</title>
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		<title>By: luc Dyrkacz</title>
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		<dc:creator>luc Dyrkacz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, wait, Mr. Roskoff is a professional gay. Every job he ever had was to be the &quot;gay liasion&quot; to this or that. Don`t talk about Blacks, Jews, Gays and Lesbians, or any other identifiable groups`s members who &quot;live off &quot; their group identification as &quot;heros&quot; or &quot;leaders&quot; or &quot;pioneers&quot;. There were many members and, yes, leaders of the GAA or other Gay or Lesbian Groups that who never made a dime off being gay unlike Allen Roskoff, Tom Duane, Debbie Glick, Gale Brewer, etc. This is like certain members of my ethnic group who serve on a board &quot;because of ethnic pride&quot; yet all have PAID JOBS in non-profits that our in turn funded by the larger group`s board they sit on.

I am not going to list gay leaders of groups who never got a PAID JOB as a gay liasion, but these are the true heros and leaders, and no, they never &quot;sold&quot; an endorsement for office like, do I have to name names?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, wait, Mr. Roskoff is a professional gay. Every job he ever had was to be the &#8220;gay liasion&#8221; to this or that. Don`t talk about Blacks, Jews, Gays and Lesbians, or any other identifiable groups`s members who &#8220;live off &#8221; their group identification as &#8220;heros&#8221; or &#8220;leaders&#8221; or &#8220;pioneers&#8221;. There were many members and, yes, leaders of the GAA or other Gay or Lesbian Groups that who never made a dime off being gay unlike Allen Roskoff, Tom Duane, Debbie Glick, Gale Brewer, etc. This is like certain members of my ethnic group who serve on a board &#8220;because of ethnic pride&#8221; yet all have PAID JOBS in non-profits that our in turn funded by the larger group`s board they sit on.</p>
<p>I am not going to list gay leaders of groups who never got a PAID JOB as a gay liasion, but these are the true heros and leaders, and no, they never &#8220;sold&#8221; an endorsement for office like, do I have to name names?</p>
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		<title>By: M Shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>M Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 17:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p.s. correction: I &quot;stand in admiration of him as being one of the of the only Voices&quot; : not &quot;the only voice&quot;. I think he respresents a whole line of thought still  connected with the reality. of  who we are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. correction: I &#8220;stand in admiration of him as being one of the of the only Voices&#8221; : not &#8220;the only voice&#8221;. I think he respresents a whole line of thought still  connected with the reality. of  who we are.</p>
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		<title>By: M Shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>M Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 17:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great interview Andrew: Like Charley i hadn&#039;t even heard of Roskoff before but stand in admiration of him as the only voice that will lead us in an authentic and empowered direction. He held on to Gay Liberation where all of the assimilationist nut jobs, led by pied piper A.Sulivan and Baurer , lead our clause over the cliff. 
Also, I&#039;m glad that somone with authority is pointing out what a phony  Clinton is regarding gay issues and how didmally mislead people are.
Again. the interview was well constructed and you asked the right questions. Kudos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great interview Andrew: Like Charley i hadn&#8217;t even heard of Roskoff before but stand in admiration of him as the only voice that will lead us in an authentic and empowered direction. He held on to Gay Liberation where all of the assimilationist nut jobs, led by pied piper A.Sulivan and Baurer , lead our clause over the cliff.<br />
Also, I&#8217;m glad that somone with authority is pointing out what a phony  Clinton is regarding gay issues and how didmally mislead people are.<br />
Again. the interview was well constructed and you asked the right questions. Kudos.</p>
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		<title>By: Mauricio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mauricio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 04:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enough of this nonsense! All of you. We see in both, together, what we need. I say Hillary/Obama, yes, a good ticket for 2008. No more &quot;anger&quot;,&quot;mudd pies&quot; or &quot;revelations&quot; here. Both made promises, both will keep each other in check and working for fairness. What do you want? Mrs. Rice in the Gop ticket before we wake up? Hillary is ready, Obama is young. (..and I voted for O, btw. I wanted to let him keep talking. I am glad that he does.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough of this nonsense! All of you. We see in both, together, what we need. I say Hillary/Obama, yes, a good ticket for 2008. No more &#8220;anger&#8221;,&#8221;mudd pies&#8221; or &#8220;revelations&#8221; here. Both made promises, both will keep each other in check and working for fairness. What do you want? Mrs. Rice in the Gop ticket before we wake up? Hillary is ready, Obama is young. (..and I voted for O, btw. I wanted to let him keep talking. I am glad that he does.)</p>
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		<title>By: michael smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 05:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks No. 1 for keeping the whole truth upfront.  The one thing I totally agree with Allen on is that I am tired of cheerleading politicians who really do not support full equality for LGBT&#039;s.  Dr. King would have never accepted such compromises.  But the civil rights movement had the passion and conviction behind it of those it represented.  Its more difficult for we that are LGBT.  People of colour did not have their own families, their own churches, synagogues, places of worship, and even sometimes their own friends against them as we often do.  We are often forced to travel the road of self discovery and acceptance alone.  The Allen Roskoffs of the world bring tears to my eyes.  To love ones own people enough to spend your lifetime fighting for them is the ultimate virtue.  I wish all of we who are gay could learn to really love each other and ourselves.   Because when that happens, we will be a force to be reckoned with and we will win this fight.  We are not second class anything.  We are human beings who are what we are because something greater than all of us wanted it and still wants it that way and when all of know that with the utmost conviction, we will tap into that power and will  take our place in the sun.  Mr Roskoff reminds us to never believe that we deserve anything less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks No. 1 for keeping the whole truth upfront.  The one thing I totally agree with Allen on is that I am tired of cheerleading politicians who really do not support full equality for LGBT&#8217;s.  Dr. King would have never accepted such compromises.  But the civil rights movement had the passion and conviction behind it of those it represented.  Its more difficult for we that are LGBT.  People of colour did not have their own families, their own churches, synagogues, places of worship, and even sometimes their own friends against them as we often do.  We are often forced to travel the road of self discovery and acceptance alone.  The Allen Roskoffs of the world bring tears to my eyes.  To love ones own people enough to spend your lifetime fighting for them is the ultimate virtue.  I wish all of we who are gay could learn to really love each other and ourselves.   Because when that happens, we will be a force to be reckoned with and we will win this fight.  We are not second class anything.  We are human beings who are what we are because something greater than all of us wanted it and still wants it that way and when all of know that with the utmost conviction, we will tap into that power and will  take our place in the sun.  Mr Roskoff reminds us to never believe that we deserve anything less.</p>
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		<title>By: Charley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agree with everything Roskoff says, and I didn&#039;t know about him.  I knew Jack Nicols of the New York 70&#039;s period, although I was closeted lving in Dublin Ireland when the activism was happening. I have always been a liberal and did support McGovern, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agree with everything Roskoff says, and I didn&#8217;t know about him.  I knew Jack Nicols of the New York 70&#8242;s period, although I was closeted lving in Dublin Ireland when the activism was happening. I have always been a liberal and did support McGovern, however.</p>
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		<title>By: Leland Frances</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leland Frances</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roskoff is one of the survivors of in-your-face activism, B.A. [Before AIDS] who deserve a great deal of respect and gratitude totally disproportionate to how little name recognition he has outside of NY, and too little is known today by gays of all ages about those days. Can anyone remotely imagine Joe Solmonese or his predecessor who turned HRCF into an impotent money mad Borg, Elisabeth Birch, literally wrestling a Presidential candidateâ€™s staffer to the floor as NGLTF cofounder Bruce Voeller did in a zap co-organized by Roskoff of George McGovernâ€™s NYC headquarters in 1972 as others chained themselves to its switchboard from which they began to call every mainstream newspaper and TV station to announce their takeover? Can you imagine the leader of ANY national or state LGBT group doing that today? Of course, you canâ€™t and thatâ€™s one of the main reasons why we are still second-class citizens 36 years later.

With so much experience and wisdom within him, itâ€™s sad to see someone like Roskoff [who as far as one knows isnâ€™t simply driven by the unquenchable thirst for revenge that David Mixner obviously is] be taken in by the synthetic siren song of the Dali Obama. True, one might read what he said as, â€œObama is the lesser of two evils,â€ but there is a curious and disingenuous focus on Sen. Clintonâ€™s statements about gay marriage while failing to mention Obama is also opposed and has repeatedly ceded control of the word to homophobic religionists, lecturing us on our lack of gratitude for his willingness to grant us Obamaâ€™s Super Duper Civil Unions even as he disagrees with his own denominationâ€™s unique support for full equality. THAT would be â€œbeing more honest about where the candidates are.â€

And is it the mental damage caused by apparently having seen Ethan Geto naked that causes him to remember Obamaâ€™s first dropping of the G-word as â€œ[addressing] our communityâ€ when the entirety of what he said was, â€œand yes, weâ€™ve got some gay friends in the Red States.â€ Thatâ€™s the equivalent of saying, â€œSome of my best friends are gayâ€â€”the kind of pusillanimous pandering that a gay war horse like Roskoff was rightfully stomping on decades ago! Has this often excellent historian of our movement forgotten that Jesse Jackson included gays in his litany of groups making up â€œthe American quiltâ€ and, again, as a part of â€the Rainbow Coalition,â€ adding explicitly that, â€œNo American citizen ought be denied equal protection from the lawâ€ in HIS Democratic National Convention keynote TWENTY-FOUR YEARS BEFORE Obamaâ€™s pussyfooting? 

Roskoff is either guilty of â€œtrying to sell damaged goods for reasons that donâ€™t existâ€ or heâ€™s another one of those who constantly â€œhearâ€ things that Obama does NOT say, such as almost never joining â€œrightsâ€ or â€œequalityâ€ with the word gay when he sprinkles it here and yon? Has the â€œNew York-basedâ€ movement veteran been out of town every year Sen. Clinton has marched in its Pride Parade, showing, as she did at the link below, that sheâ€™s NOT â€œafraid of getting taped.â€ 

SEN. CLINTONâ€™S PUBLIC SUPPORT FOR LGBTs ON VIDEO: cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=1749986n

Did he miss entirely the stories of Obamaâ€™s refusal to be photographed with the one straight Democratic official most associated with gay marriage equality, SF Mayor Gavin Newsomâ€”even as Newsom was helping Big O2 raise money for his US Senate campaign?

Itâ€™s not surprising that heâ€™s unaware that Obama has repeatedly lied about sponsoring/passing Illinoisâ€™ LGBT rights lawâ€”because gay media have either ignored the truth or printed the lies.

But did someone with Roskoffâ€™s fine sense of smell of bullshit not go dizzy when he read Obamaâ€™s obvious backtracking on his promises to fight to overturn DADT in his second â€œPlease Save My Assâ€ Advocate interview? Opposition to DADT wouldnâ€™t be a â€œlitmus testâ€ for Obamaâ€™s military Chiefs of Staff? He insisted during the PA debate that, as Commander-In-Chief, he would demand that any Iraq invasion loving general follow his orders about withdrawal. But he doesnâ€™t even have the nomination yet, let alone the keys to the White House, and heâ€™s already waving a white Obama 2008 t-shirt with â€œI surrender on DADTâ€ written on it.

Yes, we, too, miss the days of demanding more of our candidates. But Roskoff canâ€™t excuse his failure to do his homework on Obama just because Sen. Clinton is a subject heâ€™s been studying for a long time. And if he applied the same Politically Pure From the Womb standard to the long-publicly closeted Janis Ian that he does to Sen. Clinton he would not have posed with Ian for the picture above or been friends and crafty coconspirator for the greater good with the previously long-closeted Getoâ€”who, last I looked, was a Sen. Clinton advisor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roskoff is one of the survivors of in-your-face activism, B.A. [Before AIDS] who deserve a great deal of respect and gratitude totally disproportionate to how little name recognition he has outside of NY, and too little is known today by gays of all ages about those days. Can anyone remotely imagine Joe Solmonese or his predecessor who turned HRCF into an impotent money mad Borg, Elisabeth Birch, literally wrestling a Presidential candidateâ€™s staffer to the floor as NGLTF cofounder Bruce Voeller did in a zap co-organized by Roskoff of George McGovernâ€™s NYC headquarters in 1972 as others chained themselves to its switchboard from which they began to call every mainstream newspaper and TV station to announce their takeover? Can you imagine the leader of ANY national or state LGBT group doing that today? Of course, you canâ€™t and thatâ€™s one of the main reasons why we are still second-class citizens 36 years later.</p>
<p>With so much experience and wisdom within him, itâ€™s sad to see someone like Roskoff [who as far as one knows isnâ€™t simply driven by the unquenchable thirst for revenge that David Mixner obviously is] be taken in by the synthetic siren song of the Dali Obama. True, one might read what he said as, â€œObama is the lesser of two evils,â€ but there is a curious and disingenuous focus on Sen. Clintonâ€™s statements about gay marriage while failing to mention Obama is also opposed and has repeatedly ceded control of the word to homophobic religionists, lecturing us on our lack of gratitude for his willingness to grant us Obamaâ€™s Super Duper Civil Unions even as he disagrees with his own denominationâ€™s unique support for full equality. THAT would be â€œbeing more honest about where the candidates are.â€</p>
<p>And is it the mental damage caused by apparently having seen Ethan Geto naked that causes him to remember Obamaâ€™s first dropping of the G-word as â€œ[addressing] our communityâ€ when the entirety of what he said was, â€œand yes, weâ€™ve got some gay friends in the Red States.â€ Thatâ€™s the equivalent of saying, â€œSome of my best friends are gayâ€â€”the kind of pusillanimous pandering that a gay war horse like Roskoff was rightfully stomping on decades ago! Has this often excellent historian of our movement forgotten that Jesse Jackson included gays in his litany of groups making up â€œthe American quiltâ€ and, again, as a part of â€the Rainbow Coalition,â€ adding explicitly that, â€œNo American citizen ought be denied equal protection from the lawâ€ in HIS Democratic National Convention keynote TWENTY-FOUR YEARS BEFORE Obamaâ€™s pussyfooting? </p>
<p>Roskoff is either guilty of â€œtrying to sell damaged goods for reasons that donâ€™t existâ€ or heâ€™s another one of those who constantly â€œhearâ€ things that Obama does NOT say, such as almost never joining â€œrightsâ€ or â€œequalityâ€ with the word gay when he sprinkles it here and yon? Has the â€œNew York-basedâ€ movement veteran been out of town every year Sen. Clinton has marched in its Pride Parade, showing, as she did at the link below, that sheâ€™s NOT â€œafraid of getting taped.â€ </p>
<p>SEN. CLINTONâ€™S PUBLIC SUPPORT FOR LGBTs ON VIDEO: cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=1749986n</p>
<p>Did he miss entirely the stories of Obamaâ€™s refusal to be photographed with the one straight Democratic official most associated with gay marriage equality, SF Mayor Gavin Newsomâ€”even as Newsom was helping Big O2 raise money for his US Senate campaign?</p>
<p>Itâ€™s not surprising that heâ€™s unaware that Obama has repeatedly lied about sponsoring/passing Illinoisâ€™ LGBT rights lawâ€”because gay media have either ignored the truth or printed the lies.</p>
<p>But did someone with Roskoffâ€™s fine sense of smell of bullshit not go dizzy when he read Obamaâ€™s obvious backtracking on his promises to fight to overturn DADT in his second â€œPlease Save My Assâ€ Advocate interview? Opposition to DADT wouldnâ€™t be a â€œlitmus testâ€ for Obamaâ€™s military Chiefs of Staff? He insisted during the PA debate that, as Commander-In-Chief, he would demand that any Iraq invasion loving general follow his orders about withdrawal. But he doesnâ€™t even have the nomination yet, let alone the keys to the White House, and heâ€™s already waving a white Obama 2008 t-shirt with â€œI surrender on DADTâ€ written on it.</p>
<p>Yes, we, too, miss the days of demanding more of our candidates. But Roskoff canâ€™t excuse his failure to do his homework on Obama just because Sen. Clinton is a subject heâ€™s been studying for a long time. And if he applied the same Politically Pure From the Womb standard to the long-publicly closeted Janis Ian that he does to Sen. Clinton he would not have posed with Ian for the picture above or been friends and crafty coconspirator for the greater good with the previously long-closeted Getoâ€”who, last I looked, was a Sen. Clinton advisor.</p>
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