Comments on: Gay Author Lets It All Out http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/ Free of an agenda. Except that gay one. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 20:49:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: norm http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-51468 norm Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:47:58 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-51468 At last we agree on something, Ms. Shane. Your last paragraph is spot-on. At last we agree on something, Ms. Shane. Your last paragraph is spot-on.

]]> By: M Shane http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-50598 M Shane Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:00:52 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-50598 Don't get hissy now Gladys, just a little metphysics.. Now that we know what we're talking about there's no reason to get further undone. Althiough, he does look like someone I tied up in a closet once. I havin't read either the old or new books, since I havn't discovered that many worthwhile gay writers since Burroughs, Genet or White. I like tremendously that Heims regards himself as a "literary novelist". Not just an animal on the stale meatrack of this"culture" In fact, given the death of American literacy, taking up the task of an artist is admirable. That, in itself, should make the work worth a try. Don’t get hissy now Gladys, just a little metphysics.. Now that we know what we’re talking about there’s no reason to get further undone. Althiough, he does look like someone I tied up in a closet once.

I havin’t read either the old or new books, since I havn’t discovered that many worthwhile gay writers since Burroughs, Genet or White.

I like tremendously that Heims regards himself as a “literary novelist”. Not just an animal on the stale meatrack of this”culture” In fact, given the death of American literacy, taking up the task of an artist is admirable. That, in itself, should make the work worth a try.

]]> By: norm http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-50576 norm Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:51:52 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-50576 whatever, Mary. by now you've succeeded in straying miles away from the original article, which is about Mr. Heim's new book... which has absolutely nothing to do with incest, no matter which definition you want to ramble on and on and on about. whatever, Mary. by now you’ve succeeded in straying miles away from the original article, which is about Mr. Heim’s new book… which has absolutely nothing to do with incest, no matter which definition you want to ramble on and on and on about.

]]> By: M Shane http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-50149 M Shane Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:58:41 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-50149 I saw the movie and it was definitely about incest. As a former incest therapist in the first federally funded program for incest suvivors, I can state emphatically that incest is theraputicaly defined as the exploitative sexual relationship between a (usually older) more powerful person and a vunerable (often younger) person. Fanmilial relationship can (coincidentally) be there but often is not. Whether or not there is an herediary relation is irrelivant to the damaging influences of the damage done. "child abuse" is used as a descriptor of beating or other than sexual misusing of a youngster. If you are referring to the sociological relational sexual taboos there needn't be a context of victimization. I.e. by the former clinical description two brothers the same age would not have an incestuous relation if they had sex together and would not be harmed. I saw the movie and it was definitely about incest. As a former incest therapist in the first federally funded program for incest suvivors, I can state emphatically that incest is theraputicaly defined as the exploitative sexual relationship between a (usually older) more powerful person and a vunerable (often younger) person. Fanmilial relationship can (coincidentally) be there but often is not. Whether or not there is an herediary relation is
irrelivant to the damaging influences of the damage done. “child abuse” is used as a descriptor of beating or other than sexual misusing of a youngster.

If you are referring to the sociological relational sexual taboos there needn’t be a
context of victimization. I.e. by the former clinical description two brothers the same age would not have an incestuous relation if they had sex together and would not be harmed.

]]> By: dubwise http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-50066 dubwise Thu, 17 Apr 2008 01:46:16 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-50066 <B>NORM Said:In Mysterious Skin, the two protagonists remember their earlier sexual molestation by their Little League coach. The coach is not related to either boy. The situations described in Mysterious Skin, both book and movie, are not incest.</B> THIS <B>M Shane Said:If you read the description (above) of the book from which the movie was made, “Mysterious Skin “, it was about “child abuse”.</B> So...um...you didn't read the book or see the movie? If you didn't read the book or see the movie ....then it seems your offense is a bit miss-directed. NORM Said:In Mysterious Skin, the two protagonists remember their earlier sexual molestation by their Little League coach. The coach is not related to either boy. The situations described in Mysterious Skin, both book and movie, are not incest.

THIS

M Shane Said:If you read the description (above) of the book from which the movie was made, “Mysterious Skin “, it was about “child abuse”.

So…um…you didn’t read the book or see the movie? If you didn’t read the book or see the movie ….then it seems your offense is a bit miss-directed.

]]> By: norm http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-50048 norm Thu, 17 Apr 2008 00:53:37 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-50048 Definition of incest: "Nonforcible sexual intercourse between persons who are related to each other within the degrees wherein marriage is prohibited by law." In Mysterious Skin, the two protagonists remember their earlier sexual molestation by their Little League coach. The coach is not related to either boy. The situations described in Mysterious Skin, both book and movie, are not incest. Definition of incest:

“Nonforcible sexual intercourse between persons who are related to each other within the degrees wherein marriage is prohibited by law.”

In Mysterious Skin, the two protagonists remember their earlier sexual molestation by their Little League coach. The coach is not related to either boy. The situations described in Mysterious Skin, both book and movie, are not incest.

]]> By: M Shane http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-50027 M Shane Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:55:06 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-50027 I could be mistaken, however, I think that I'm right; If you read the description (above) of the book from which the movie was made, "Mysterious Skin ", it was about "child abuse". Incest is generally regarded as being sexual abuse by someone more powerful, in control of a child. I could be mistaken, however, I think that I’m right; If you read the description (above) of the book from which the movie was made, “Mysterious Skin “, it was about “child abuse”.
Incest is generally regarded as being sexual abuse by someone more powerful, in control of a child.

]]> By: norm http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-50015 norm Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:48:31 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-50015 Good point. There's no incest whatsoever in that book. What's more, it seems the author and director made a strong case for the Neil character having explicitly homosexual feelings before the molestation happened. Good point. There’s no incest whatsoever in that book. What’s more, it seems the author and director made a strong case for the Neil character having explicitly homosexual feelings before the molestation happened.

]]> By: Dubwise http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-49999 Dubwise Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:44:27 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-49999 <B>M Shane wrote: I was kind of offended by the Araki movie being in our public library because it definitely could give the impression to straight people that incest is a precursuer to people being gay.</B> I don't remember incest in Mysterious Skin. M Shane wrote: I was kind of offended by the Araki movie being in our public library because it definitely could give the impression to straight people that incest is a precursuer to people being gay.

I don’t remember incest in Mysterious Skin.

]]> By: Tim http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-49953 Tim Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:54:21 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-49953 The subtitle of this interview is misleading. I want to see the inside of Scott Heim's mind! Where is it? The trailer he made for the book makes me really intrigued to read it. The subtitle of this interview is misleading. I want to see the inside of Scott Heim’s mind! Where is it?

The trailer he made for the book makes me really intrigued to read it.

]]> By: steve http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-49874 steve Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:16:44 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-49874 "mysterious skin" was brilliant the film was amazing as well... it absolves araki of all the films that made me want to strangle him “mysterious skin” was brilliant

the film was amazing as well… it absolves araki of all the films that made me want to strangle him

]]> By: M Shane http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-49850 M Shane Wed, 16 Apr 2008 00:27:31 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-49850 That's foolish; it goes along with the notion that all gay people are child molesters., if that is all that you see. That’s foolish; it goes along with the notion that all gay people are child molesters., if that is all that you see.

]]> By: thatguyfromboston http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-49827 thatguyfromboston Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:27:22 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-49827 Well then, let's all go out and remove from the public sphere anything that might cause straight parents to get the wrong impression. Siriano, Kressley that means you. Well then, let’s all go out and remove from the public sphere anything that might cause straight parents to get the wrong impression. Siriano, Kressley that means you.

]]> By: M Shane http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-49814 M Shane Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:51:59 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-49814 That's really weird: I was kind of offended by the Araki movie being in our public library because it definitely could give the impression to straight people that incest is a precursuer to people being gay. That's all that it shows-like case studies. I can just see straight parents picking it up and getting the wrong impression. I don't think that incest in and of itself can make people gay. They may occur coincidentally. The movie in and of itself isn't offensive exactly; I'm not to inspired by kid victimization. That’s really weird: I was kind of offended by the Araki movie being in our public library because it definitely could give the impression to straight people that incest is a precursuer to people being gay. That’s all that it shows-like case studies. I can just see straight parents picking it up and getting the wrong impression. I don’t think that incest in and of itself can make people gay. They may occur coincidentally.
The movie in and of itself isn’t offensive exactly; I’m not to inspired by kid victimization.

]]> By: norm http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-49763 norm Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:38:46 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-49763 LOVE free booze! I'll be there if I can get my book signed. And get free booze. LOVE free booze! I’ll be there if I can get my book signed. And get free booze.

]]> By: thatguyfromboston http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-49722 thatguyfromboston Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:03:25 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-49722 Love Scott Heim. Fantastic person. Love Scott Heim. Fantastic person.

]]> By: Dubwise http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-49678 Dubwise Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:14:12 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gay-author-lets-it-all-out-20080415/#comment-49678 LOVE Mysterious SKin. Fantastic book. LOVE Mysterious SKin. Fantastic book.

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