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		<title>By: EWE</title>
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		<dc:creator>EWE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally think that most gay americans are in the closet anyway so i do not see how this policy makes one ounce of sense to anyone but overreacting freeper wingfucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally think that most gay americans are in the closet anyway so i do not see how this policy makes one ounce of sense to anyone but overreacting freeper wingfucks.</p>
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		<title>By: EWE</title>
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		<dc:creator>EWE</dc:creator>
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		<description>We should donate blood, lie about our orientation and then insist they prosecute all of us for being gay blood donators after it&#039;s done.  I dare the US government to incarcerate large groups of gay people for contributing to the promotion and wellbeing of an emergency healthcare system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should donate blood, lie about our orientation and then insist they prosecute all of us for being gay blood donators after it&#039;s done.  I dare the US government to incarcerate large groups of gay people for contributing to the promotion and wellbeing of an emergency healthcare system.</p>
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		<title>By: Mina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 05:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-282283&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mina&lt;/a&gt;: And we had protected sex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link_DISABLED" href="#comment-282283" rel="nofollow">Mina</a>: And we had protected sex</p>
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		<title>By: Mina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mina</dc:creator>
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		<description>This is a terrible ban.  I live in Canada and I am female.  I cannot donate blood because I had sex with a guy who had sex with another guy.  Even though we since have had hiv/aids tests and him having sex with another guy once happened 10 years ago,  they still won&#039;t allow me to donate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a terrible ban.  I live in Canada and I am female.  I cannot donate blood because I had sex with a guy who had sex with another guy.  Even though we since have had hiv/aids tests and him having sex with another guy once happened 10 years ago,  they still won&#039;t allow me to donate.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really hope that some people get it.  I have done a lot of research on this as of late.  Any time you LIE you are NOT helping ANYONE but YOURSELF.  I hope maybe at least one person will look beyond themselves and see the big picture.  I encourage all to go to the FDA site and down load the report they speak of.  it is 398 pages or so, i did my due diligence.  

the following is a complete article taken off the FDA website.  it answers all (if not, most) of the questions posted here.  
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http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/BloodBloodProducts/QuestionsaboutBlood/ucm108186.htm
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Blood Donations from Men Who Have Sex with Other Men Questions and Answers

What is FDA&#039;s policy on blood donations from men who have sex with other men (MSM)?

Men who have had sex with other men, at any time since 1977 (the beginning of the AIDS epidemic in the United States) are currently deferred as blood donors. This is because MSM are, as a group, at increased risk for HIV, hepatitis B and certain other infections that can be transmitted by transfusion.

The policy is not unique to the United States. Many European countries have recently reexamined both the science and ethics of the lifetime MSM deferral, and have retained it (See the transcript of the &quot;FDA Workshop on Behavior-Based Donor Deferrals in the NAT Era&quot; for further information.). This decision is also consistent with the prevailing interpretation of the European Union Directive 2004/33/EC article 2.1 on donor deferrals.

Why doesn&#039;t FDA allow men who have had sex with men to donate blood?

A history of male-to-male sex is associated with an increased risk for the presence of and transmission of certain infectious diseases, including HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. FDA&#039;s policy is intended to protect all people who receive blood transfusions from an increased risk of exposure to potentially infected blood and blood products.

The deferral for men who have had sex with men is based on the following considerations regarding risk of HIV:

    * Men who have had sex with men since 1977 have an HIV prevalence (the total number of cases of a disease that are present in a population at a specific point in time) 60 times higher than the general population, 800 times higher than first time blood donors and 8000 times higher than repeat blood donors (American Red Cross). Even taking into account that 75% of HIV infected men who have sex with men already know they are HIV positive and would be unlikely to donate blood, the HIV prevalence in potential donors with history of male sex with males is 200 times higher than first time blood donors and 2000 times higher than repeat blood donors.
    * Men who have had sex with men account for the largest single group of blood donors who are found HIV positive by blood donor testing.
    * Blood donor testing using current advanced technologies has greatly reduced the risk of HIV transmission but cannot yet detect all infected donors or prevent all transmission by transfusions. While today&#039;s highly sensitive tests fail to detect less than one in a million HIV infected donors, it is important to remember that in the US there are over 20 million transfusions of blood, red cell concentrates, plasma or platelets every year. Therefore, even a failure rate of 1 in a million can be significant if there is an increased risk of undetected HIV in the blood donor population.
    * Detection of HIV infection is particularly challenging when very low levels of virus are present in the blood for example during the so-called &quot;window period&quot;. The &quot;window period&quot; is the time between being infected with HIV and the ability of an HIV test to detect HIV in an infected person.
    * FDA&#039;s MSM policy reduces the likelihood that a person would unknowingly donate blood during the &quot;window period&quot; of infection. This is important because the rate of new infections in MSM is higher than in the general population and current blood donors.
    * Collection of blood from persons with an increased risk of HIV infection also presents an added risk if blood were to be accidentally given to a patient in error either before testing is completed or following a positive test. Such medical errors occur very rarely, but given that there are over 20 million transfusions every year, in the USA, they can occur. That is one more reason why FDA and other regulatory authorities work to assure that there are multiple safeguards, not just testing.
    * Several scientific models show there would be a small but definite increased risk to people who receive blood transfusions if FDA&#039;s MSM policy were changed and that preventable transfusion transmission of HIV could occur as a result.
    * No alternate set of donor eligibility criteria (even including practice of safe sex or a low number of lifetime partners) has yet been found to reliably identify MSM who are not at increased risk for HIV or certain other transfusion transmissible infections.
    * Today, the risk of getting HIV from a transfusion or a blood product has been nearly eliminated in the United States. Improved procedures, donor screening for risk of infection and laboratory testing for evidence of HIV infection have made the United States blood supply safer than ever. While appreciative and supportive of the desire of potential blood donors to contribute to the health of others, FDA&#039;s first obligation is to assure the safety of the blood supply and protect the health of blood recipients.
    * Men who have sex with men also have an increased risk of having other infections that can be transmitted to others by blood transfusion. For example, infection with the Hepatitis B virus is about 5-6 times more common and Hepatitis C virus infections are about 2 times more common in men who have sex with other men than in the general population. Additionally, men who have sex with men have an increased incidence and prevalence of Human Herpes Virus-8 (HHV-8). HHV-8 causes a cancer called Kaposi&#039;s sarcoma in immunocompromised individuals.

What is self-deferral?

Self-deferral is a process in which individuals elect not to donate because they identify themselves as having characteristics that place them at potentially higher risk of carrying a transfusion transmissible disease. FDA uses self-deferral as part of a system to protect the blood supply. This system starts by informing donors about the risk of transmitting infectious diseases. Then, potential donors are asked questions about their health and certain behaviors and other factors (like travel and past transfusions) that increase their risk of infection. Screening questions help people, even those who feel well, to identify themselves as potentially at higher risk for transmitting infectious diseases. Screening questions allow individuals to self defer, rather than unknowingly donating blood that may be infected.

Is FDA&#039;s policy of excluding MSM blood donors discriminatory?

FDA&#039;s deferral policy is based on the documented increased risk of certain transfusion transmissible infections, such as HIV, associated with male-to-male sex and is not based on any judgment concerning the donor&#039;s sexual orientation.

Male to male sex has been associated with an increased risk of HIV infection at least since 1977. Surveillance data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention indicate that men who have sex with men and would be likely to donate have a HIV prevalence that is at present over 15 fold higher than the general population, and over 2000 fold higher than current repeat blood donors (i.e., those who have been negatively screened and tested) in the USA. MSM continue to account for the largest number of people newly infected with HIV.

Men who have sex with men also have an increased risk of having other infections that can be transmitted to others by blood transfusion.

What about men who have had a low number of partners, practice safe sex, or who are currently in monogamous relationships?

Having had a low number of partners is known to decrease the risk of HIV infection. However, to date, no donor eligibility questions have been shown to reliably identify a subset of MSM (e.g., based on monogamy or safe sexual practices) who do not still have a substantially increased rate of HIV infection compared to the general population or currently accepted blood donors. In the future, improved questionnaires may be helpful to better select safe donors, but this cannot be assumed without evidence.

Are there other donors who have increased risks of HIV or other infections who, as a result, are also excluded from donating blood?

Intravenous drug abusers are excluded from giving blood because they have prevalence rates of HIV, HBV, HCV and HTLV that are much higher than the general population. People who have received transplants of animal tissue or organs are excluded from giving blood because of the still largely unknown risks of transmitting unknown or emerging pathogens harbored by the animal donors. People who have recently traveled to or lived abroad in certain countries may be excluded because they are at risk for transmitting agents such as malaria or variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (vCJD). People who have engaged in sex in return for money or drugs are also excluded because they are at increased risk for transmitting HIV and other blood-borne infections.

Why are some people, such as heterosexuals with multiple partners, allowed to donate blood despite increased risk for transmitting HIV and hepatitis?

Current scientific data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) indicate that, as a group, men who have sex with other men are at a higher risk for transmitting infectious diseases or HIV than are individuals in other risk categories. While statistics indicate a rising infection rate among young heterosexual women, their overall rate of HIV infection remains much lower than in men who have sex with other men. For information on HIV-related statistics and trends, go to CDC&#039;s HIV/AIDS Statistics and Surveillance web page.

Isn&#039;t the HIV test accurate enough to identify all HIV positive blood donors?

HIV tests currently in use are highly accurate, but still cannot detect HIV 100% of the time. It is estimated that the HIV risk from a unit of blood has been reduced to about 1 per 2 million in the USA, almost exclusively from so called &quot;window period&quot; donations. The &quot;window period&quot; exists very early after infection, where even current HIV testing methods cannot detect all infections. During this time, a person is infected with HIV, but may not have made enough virus or developed enough antibodies to be detected by available tests. For this reason, a person could test negative, even when they are actually HIV positive and infectious. Therefore, blood donors are not only tested but are also asked questions about behaviors that increase their risk of HIV infection.

Collection of blood from persons with an increased risk of HIV infection also presents an added risk to transfusion recipients due to the possibility that blood may be accidentally given to a patient in error either before testing is completed or following a positive test. Such medical errors occur very rarely, but given that there are over 20 million transfusions every year, in the USA, they can occur. For these reasons, FDA uses a multi-layered approach to blood safety including pre-donation deferral of potential donors based on risk behaviors and then screening of the donated blood with sensitive tests for infectious agents such as HIV-1, HIV-2, HCV, HBV and HTLV-I/II.

How long has FDA had this MSM policy?

FDA&#039;s policies on donor deferral for history of male sex with males date back to 1983, when the risk of AIDS from transfusion was first recognized. Our current policy has been in place since 1992.

FDA has modified its blood donor policy as new scientific data and more accurate tests for HIV and hepatitis became available. Today, the risk of getting HIV from a blood transfusion has been reduced to about one per two million units of blood transfused. The risk of hepatitis C is about the same as for HIV, while the risk of hepatitis B is somewhat higher.

Doesn&#039;t the policy eliminate healthy donors at a time when more donors are needed because of blood shortages?

FDA realizes that this policy will defer many healthy donors. However, FDA&#039;s MSM policy minimizes even the small risk of getting infectious diseases such as HIV or hepatitis through a blood transfusion.

Would FDA ever consider changing the policy?

FDA scientists continue to monitor the scientific literature and to consult with experts in CDC, NIH and other agencies. FDA will continue to publicly revisit the current deferral policy as new information becomes available.

On March 8, 2006, FDA conducted a workshop entitled &quot;Behavior-based donor deferrals in the Nucleic Acid Test (NAT) era&quot;. The workshop addressed scientific challenges, opportunities, and risk based donor deferral policies relevant to the protection of the blood supply from transfusion transmissible diseases, seeking input on this topic. Participants were given the opportunity to provide scientific data that could support revising FDA&#039;s MSM deferral. The workshop provided a very active, open and broad-based scientific dialogue concerning current behavior-based deferrals and explored other options that may be considered and the data needed to evaluate them.

FDA&#039;s primary responsibility is to enhance blood safety and protect blood recipients. Therefore FDA would change this policy only if supported by scientific data showing that a change in policy would not present a significant and preventable risk to blood recipients. Scientific evidence has not yet been provided to FDA that shows that blood donated by MSM or a subgroup of these potential donors, is as safe as blood from currently accepted donors.

FDA remains willing to consider new approaches to donor screening and testing, provided those approaches assure that blood recipients are not placed at an increased risk of HIV or other transfusion transmitted diseases.

References:
   1. Germain, M., Remis, R.S., and Delage, G. The risks and benefits of accepting men who have had sex with men as blood donors. Transfusion 2003; 43:25-33.
   2. Busch MP, Glynn SA, Stramer SL, Strong DM, Caglioti S, Wright DJ, Pappalardo B, Kleinman SH; NHLBI-REDS NAT Study Group. A new strategy for estimating risks of transfusion-transmitted viral infections based on rates of detection of recently infected donors. Transfusion 2005, 45:254-264
   3. Presentation at FDA Blood Products Advisory Committee Meeting, September 2000.
   4. Soldan, K. and Sinka, K. Evaluation of the de-selection of men who have had sex with men from blood donation in England. Vox Sanguinis 2003; 84:265-273.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hope that some people get it.  I have done a lot of research on this as of late.  Any time you LIE you are NOT helping ANYONE but YOURSELF.  I hope maybe at least one person will look beyond themselves and see the big picture.  I encourage all to go to the FDA site and down load the report they speak of.  it is 398 pages or so, i did my due diligence.  </p>
<p>the following is a complete article taken off the FDA website.  it answers all (if not, most) of the questions posted here.<br />
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<a href="http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/BloodBloodProducts/QuestionsaboutBlood/ucm108186.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBl.....108186.htm</a><br />
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Blood Donations from Men Who Have Sex with Other Men Questions and Answers</p>
<p>What is FDA&#039;s policy on blood donations from men who have sex with other men (MSM)?</p>
<p>Men who have had sex with other men, at any time since 1977 (the beginning of the AIDS epidemic in the United States) are currently deferred as blood donors. This is because MSM are, as a group, at increased risk for HIV, hepatitis B and certain other infections that can be transmitted by transfusion.</p>
<p>The policy is not unique to the United States. Many European countries have recently reexamined both the science and ethics of the lifetime MSM deferral, and have retained it (See the transcript of the &#034;FDA Workshop on Behavior-Based Donor Deferrals in the NAT Era&#034; for further information.). This decision is also consistent with the prevailing interpretation of the European Union Directive 2004/33/EC article 2.1 on donor deferrals.</p>
<p>Why doesn&#039;t FDA allow men who have had sex with men to donate blood?</p>
<p>A history of male-to-male sex is associated with an increased risk for the presence of and transmission of certain infectious diseases, including HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. FDA&#039;s policy is intended to protect all people who receive blood transfusions from an increased risk of exposure to potentially infected blood and blood products.</p>
<p>The deferral for men who have had sex with men is based on the following considerations regarding risk of HIV:</p>
<p>    * Men who have had sex with men since 1977 have an HIV prevalence (the total number of cases of a disease that are present in a population at a specific point in time) 60 times higher than the general population, 800 times higher than first time blood donors and 8000 times higher than repeat blood donors (American Red Cross). Even taking into account that 75% of HIV infected men who have sex with men already know they are HIV positive and would be unlikely to donate blood, the HIV prevalence in potential donors with history of male sex with males is 200 times higher than first time blood donors and 2000 times higher than repeat blood donors.<br />
    * Men who have had sex with men account for the largest single group of blood donors who are found HIV positive by blood donor testing.<br />
    * Blood donor testing using current advanced technologies has greatly reduced the risk of HIV transmission but cannot yet detect all infected donors or prevent all transmission by transfusions. While today&#039;s highly sensitive tests fail to detect less than one in a million HIV infected donors, it is important to remember that in the US there are over 20 million transfusions of blood, red cell concentrates, plasma or platelets every year. Therefore, even a failure rate of 1 in a million can be significant if there is an increased risk of undetected HIV in the blood donor population.<br />
    * Detection of HIV infection is particularly challenging when very low levels of virus are present in the blood for example during the so-called &#034;window period&#034;. The &#034;window period&#034; is the time between being infected with HIV and the ability of an HIV test to detect HIV in an infected person.<br />
    * FDA&#039;s MSM policy reduces the likelihood that a person would unknowingly donate blood during the &#034;window period&#034; of infection. This is important because the rate of new infections in MSM is higher than in the general population and current blood donors.<br />
    * Collection of blood from persons with an increased risk of HIV infection also presents an added risk if blood were to be accidentally given to a patient in error either before testing is completed or following a positive test. Such medical errors occur very rarely, but given that there are over 20 million transfusions every year, in the USA, they can occur. That is one more reason why FDA and other regulatory authorities work to assure that there are multiple safeguards, not just testing.<br />
    * Several scientific models show there would be a small but definite increased risk to people who receive blood transfusions if FDA&#039;s MSM policy were changed and that preventable transfusion transmission of HIV could occur as a result.<br />
    * No alternate set of donor eligibility criteria (even including practice of safe sex or a low number of lifetime partners) has yet been found to reliably identify MSM who are not at increased risk for HIV or certain other transfusion transmissible infections.<br />
    * Today, the risk of getting HIV from a transfusion or a blood product has been nearly eliminated in the United States. Improved procedures, donor screening for risk of infection and laboratory testing for evidence of HIV infection have made the United States blood supply safer than ever. While appreciative and supportive of the desire of potential blood donors to contribute to the health of others, FDA&#039;s first obligation is to assure the safety of the blood supply and protect the health of blood recipients.<br />
    * Men who have sex with men also have an increased risk of having other infections that can be transmitted to others by blood transfusion. For example, infection with the Hepatitis B virus is about 5-6 times more common and Hepatitis C virus infections are about 2 times more common in men who have sex with other men than in the general population. Additionally, men who have sex with men have an increased incidence and prevalence of Human Herpes Virus-8 (HHV-8). HHV-8 causes a cancer called Kaposi&#039;s sarcoma in immunocompromised individuals.</p>
<p>What is self-deferral?</p>
<p>Self-deferral is a process in which individuals elect not to donate because they identify themselves as having characteristics that place them at potentially higher risk of carrying a transfusion transmissible disease. FDA uses self-deferral as part of a system to protect the blood supply. This system starts by informing donors about the risk of transmitting infectious diseases. Then, potential donors are asked questions about their health and certain behaviors and other factors (like travel and past transfusions) that increase their risk of infection. Screening questions help people, even those who feel well, to identify themselves as potentially at higher risk for transmitting infectious diseases. Screening questions allow individuals to self defer, rather than unknowingly donating blood that may be infected.</p>
<p>Is FDA&#039;s policy of excluding MSM blood donors discriminatory?</p>
<p>FDA&#039;s deferral policy is based on the documented increased risk of certain transfusion transmissible infections, such as HIV, associated with male-to-male sex and is not based on any judgment concerning the donor&#039;s sexual orientation.</p>
<p>Male to male sex has been associated with an increased risk of HIV infection at least since 1977. Surveillance data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention indicate that men who have sex with men and would be likely to donate have a HIV prevalence that is at present over 15 fold higher than the general population, and over 2000 fold higher than current repeat blood donors (i.e., those who have been negatively screened and tested) in the USA. MSM continue to account for the largest number of people newly infected with HIV.</p>
<p>Men who have sex with men also have an increased risk of having other infections that can be transmitted to others by blood transfusion.</p>
<p>What about men who have had a low number of partners, practice safe sex, or who are currently in monogamous relationships?</p>
<p>Having had a low number of partners is known to decrease the risk of HIV infection. However, to date, no donor eligibility questions have been shown to reliably identify a subset of MSM (e.g., based on monogamy or safe sexual practices) who do not still have a substantially increased rate of HIV infection compared to the general population or currently accepted blood donors. In the future, improved questionnaires may be helpful to better select safe donors, but this cannot be assumed without evidence.</p>
<p>Are there other donors who have increased risks of HIV or other infections who, as a result, are also excluded from donating blood?</p>
<p>Intravenous drug abusers are excluded from giving blood because they have prevalence rates of HIV, HBV, HCV and HTLV that are much higher than the general population. People who have received transplants of animal tissue or organs are excluded from giving blood because of the still largely unknown risks of transmitting unknown or emerging pathogens harbored by the animal donors. People who have recently traveled to or lived abroad in certain countries may be excluded because they are at risk for transmitting agents such as malaria or variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (vCJD). People who have engaged in sex in return for money or drugs are also excluded because they are at increased risk for transmitting HIV and other blood-borne infections.</p>
<p>Why are some people, such as heterosexuals with multiple partners, allowed to donate blood despite increased risk for transmitting HIV and hepatitis?</p>
<p>Current scientific data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) indicate that, as a group, men who have sex with other men are at a higher risk for transmitting infectious diseases or HIV than are individuals in other risk categories. While statistics indicate a rising infection rate among young heterosexual women, their overall rate of HIV infection remains much lower than in men who have sex with other men. For information on HIV-related statistics and trends, go to CDC&#039;s HIV/AIDS Statistics and Surveillance web page.</p>
<p>Isn&#039;t the HIV test accurate enough to identify all HIV positive blood donors?</p>
<p>HIV tests currently in use are highly accurate, but still cannot detect HIV 100% of the time. It is estimated that the HIV risk from a unit of blood has been reduced to about 1 per 2 million in the USA, almost exclusively from so called &#034;window period&#034; donations. The &#034;window period&#034; exists very early after infection, where even current HIV testing methods cannot detect all infections. During this time, a person is infected with HIV, but may not have made enough virus or developed enough antibodies to be detected by available tests. For this reason, a person could test negative, even when they are actually HIV positive and infectious. Therefore, blood donors are not only tested but are also asked questions about behaviors that increase their risk of HIV infection.</p>
<p>Collection of blood from persons with an increased risk of HIV infection also presents an added risk to transfusion recipients due to the possibility that blood may be accidentally given to a patient in error either before testing is completed or following a positive test. Such medical errors occur very rarely, but given that there are over 20 million transfusions every year, in the USA, they can occur. For these reasons, FDA uses a multi-layered approach to blood safety including pre-donation deferral of potential donors based on risk behaviors and then screening of the donated blood with sensitive tests for infectious agents such as HIV-1, HIV-2, HCV, HBV and HTLV-I/II.</p>
<p>How long has FDA had this MSM policy?</p>
<p>FDA&#039;s policies on donor deferral for history of male sex with males date back to 1983, when the risk of AIDS from transfusion was first recognized. Our current policy has been in place since 1992.</p>
<p>FDA has modified its blood donor policy as new scientific data and more accurate tests for HIV and hepatitis became available. Today, the risk of getting HIV from a blood transfusion has been reduced to about one per two million units of blood transfused. The risk of hepatitis C is about the same as for HIV, while the risk of hepatitis B is somewhat higher.</p>
<p>Doesn&#039;t the policy eliminate healthy donors at a time when more donors are needed because of blood shortages?</p>
<p>FDA realizes that this policy will defer many healthy donors. However, FDA&#039;s MSM policy minimizes even the small risk of getting infectious diseases such as HIV or hepatitis through a blood transfusion.</p>
<p>Would FDA ever consider changing the policy?</p>
<p>FDA scientists continue to monitor the scientific literature and to consult with experts in CDC, NIH and other agencies. FDA will continue to publicly revisit the current deferral policy as new information becomes available.</p>
<p>On March 8, 2006, FDA conducted a workshop entitled &#034;Behavior-based donor deferrals in the Nucleic Acid Test (NAT) era&#034;. The workshop addressed scientific challenges, opportunities, and risk based donor deferral policies relevant to the protection of the blood supply from transfusion transmissible diseases, seeking input on this topic. Participants were given the opportunity to provide scientific data that could support revising FDA&#039;s MSM deferral. The workshop provided a very active, open and broad-based scientific dialogue concerning current behavior-based deferrals and explored other options that may be considered and the data needed to evaluate them.</p>
<p>FDA&#039;s primary responsibility is to enhance blood safety and protect blood recipients. Therefore FDA would change this policy only if supported by scientific data showing that a change in policy would not present a significant and preventable risk to blood recipients. Scientific evidence has not yet been provided to FDA that shows that blood donated by MSM or a subgroup of these potential donors, is as safe as blood from currently accepted donors.</p>
<p>FDA remains willing to consider new approaches to donor screening and testing, provided those approaches assure that blood recipients are not placed at an increased risk of HIV or other transfusion transmitted diseases.</p>
<p>References:<br />
   1. Germain, M., Remis, R.S., and Delage, G. The risks and benefits of accepting men who have had sex with men as blood donors. Transfusion 2003; 43:25-33.<br />
   2. Busch MP, Glynn SA, Stramer SL, Strong DM, Caglioti S, Wright DJ, Pappalardo B, Kleinman SH; NHLBI-REDS NAT Study Group. A new strategy for estimating risks of transfusion-transmitted viral infections based on rates of detection of recently infected donors. Transfusion 2005, 45:254-264<br />
   3. Presentation at FDA Blood Products Advisory Committee Meeting, September 2000.<br />
   4. Soldan, K. and Sinka, K. Evaluation of the de-selection of men who have had sex with men from blood donation in England. Vox Sanguinis 2003; 84:265-273.</p>
<p>Related Information<br />
    * FDA Workshop on Behavior-Based Donor Deferrals in the NAT Era (PDF &#8211; 432KB)1<br />
    * Infectious Disease Tests2 </p>
<p>-Related Links<br />
    * CDC HIV/AIDS Statistics and Surveillance3 </p>
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		<title>By: Kisha</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-3/#comment-276616</link>
		<dc:creator>Kisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question... Do they not test/ screen the blood before passing it on to other people? If they do, I see no reason why gay men are unable to donor blood to help individuals in need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question&#8230; Do they not test/ screen the blood before passing it on to other people? If they do, I see no reason why gay men are unable to donor blood to help individuals in need.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila Daniels</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-3/#comment-274871</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheila Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 04:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a straight female.  As a former sex worker and long-time donor (over 20 years), I asked a health professional about this.  I am a low risk individual in that I always used condoms with clients.  Always.  But I always had to lie about &quot;have you ever accepted money for sex, even once, since 1977?&quot;
This professional, after a thorough intake, told me that I was doing a greater good by lying and donating than telling the truth on this point.  
Think of it, if I was a swinger with multiple partners, and money was not an issue, I would be allowed to donate without lying, and I would probably not be as diligent about condom use.  
Healthy gay men in monogamous relationships should be allowed to donate.  
The screening questions need to get to the root of behavior, and risk assessment. 
How many partners in the last year?  How often do you use condoms?  Do you engage in unprotected anal sex?  Ass-to-mouth?

Once they get your blood, it&#039;s screened for HIV, hepatitis, and a few other diseases.  Some blood products must be used in five, while other components can be frozen for months.  
It has to do with a limited supply and the greater good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a straight female.  As a former sex worker and long-time donor (over 20 years), I asked a health professional about this.  I am a low risk individual in that I always used condoms with clients.  Always.  But I always had to lie about &#034;have you ever accepted money for sex, even once, since 1977?&#034;<br />
This professional, after a thorough intake, told me that I was doing a greater good by lying and donating than telling the truth on this point.<br />
Think of it, if I was a swinger with multiple partners, and money was not an issue, I would be allowed to donate without lying, and I would probably not be as diligent about condom use.<br />
Healthy gay men in monogamous relationships should be allowed to donate.<br />
The screening questions need to get to the root of behavior, and risk assessment.<br />
How many partners in the last year?  How often do you use condoms?  Do you engage in unprotected anal sex?  Ass-to-mouth?</p>
<p>Once they get your blood, it&#039;s screened for HIV, hepatitis, and a few other diseases.  Some blood products must be used in five, while other components can be frozen for months.<br />
It has to do with a limited supply and the greater good.</p>
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		<title>By: jessie</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-3/#comment-260519</link>
		<dc:creator>jessie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no 117, you have an hiv positive partner and you still donate? thats insane you might have hiv and it just hasnt come out in tests yet.</description>
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		<title>By: t</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-3/#comment-260517</link>
		<dc:creator>t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in my opinion if a person is sexually active and is not in a monogamous relationship they should not be allowed to donate blood, gay, straight, man or woman. the hiv virus can spend years in the blood and even tests wont reveal it until it wants to be revealed, why risk other peoples health if you are not sure if you really are free of diseases?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in my opinion if a person is sexually active and is not in a monogamous relationship they should not be allowed to donate blood, gay, straight, man or woman. the hiv virus can spend years in the blood and even tests wont reveal it until it wants to be revealed, why risk other peoples health if you are not sure if you really are free of diseases?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-3/#comment-249098</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 17:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was recently in a group of my gay friends, and this topic came up. It turned out that 5 out of the 7 of us had lied and donated blood.

Even if this policy is justified, it&#039;s counterproductive. I&#039;d be willing to bet that a higher proportion of MSMs lie and donate blood than MSWs (is that even a term?). And still anyone getting HIV from blood transfusions is very, very rare.

I lie when donating all the time. Personally I&#039;m at no higher risk than a heterosexual as I&#039;ve been in a mutually monogamous relationship with an HIV- partner and I use protection. That&#039;s what they should screen on the basis of: behavior and not orientation. It works in Spain, France, Italy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was recently in a group of my gay friends, and this topic came up. It turned out that 5 out of the 7 of us had lied and donated blood.</p>
<p>Even if this policy is justified, it&#039;s counterproductive. I&#039;d be willing to bet that a higher proportion of MSMs lie and donate blood than MSWs (is that even a term?). And still anyone getting HIV from blood transfusions is very, very rare.</p>
<p>I lie when donating all the time. Personally I&#039;m at no higher risk than a heterosexual as I&#039;ve been in a mutually monogamous relationship with an HIV- partner and I use protection. That&#039;s what they should screen on the basis of: behavior and not orientation. It works in Spain, France, Italy.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Bomb</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-3/#comment-243979</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Bomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Threshold:

I&#039;ll bet that we aren&#039;t allowed to donate organs, either.  I can&#039;t say that&#039;s true for sure, but it wouldn&#039;t surprise me if they banned that, too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Threshold:</p>
<p>I&#039;ll bet that we aren&#039;t allowed to donate organs, either.  I can&#039;t say that&#039;s true for sure, but it wouldn&#039;t surprise me if they banned that, too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: threshold</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-3/#comment-243968</link>
		<dc:creator>threshold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can tell you one thing, if my blood isn&#039;t good enough for the medical establishment, my organs sure as hell aren&#039;t. If I get in an accident, my HIV negative, HCV negative organs will be rotting in the ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can tell you one thing, if my blood isn&#039;t good enough for the medical establishment, my organs sure as hell aren&#039;t. If I get in an accident, my HIV negative, HCV negative organs will be rotting in the ground.</p>
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		<title>By: Vickeee</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-3/#comment-242496</link>
		<dc:creator>Vickeee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 02:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was looking through the online questionaire for blood donations when I came across this senseless question.

What happened to &quot;all men are created equal,&quot; and those &quot;I have a dream&quot; stuff?  Do they only apply to discrimination against races?

If people don&#039;t even care about my yellow skin anymore, then they should stop worrying about someone&#039;s sexual orientation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was looking through the online questionaire for blood donations when I came across this senseless question.</p>
<p>What happened to &#034;all men are created equal,&#034; and those &#034;I have a dream&#034; stuff?  Do they only apply to discrimination against races?</p>
<p>If people don&#039;t even care about my yellow skin anymore, then they should stop worrying about someone&#039;s sexual orientation.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-3/#comment-241164</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have haemophilia for a start, therefore I am strictly prohibited to donate blood, as mine does not clot naturally. I think it is totally unfair that someone is denied the right to donate blood because of their sexuality, and it really is depriving very sick people of the blood they may require to stay alive, just because it is a common speculation that the HIV virus is only, or almost always only present in the gay community. It&#039;s ridiculous, and in my opinion wrong. I think that it should be made legal for gay men to donate blood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have haemophilia for a start, therefore I am strictly prohibited to donate blood, as mine does not clot naturally. I think it is totally unfair that someone is denied the right to donate blood because of their sexuality, and it really is depriving very sick people of the blood they may require to stay alive, just because it is a common speculation that the HIV virus is only, or almost always only present in the gay community. It&#039;s ridiculous, and in my opinion wrong. I think that it should be made legal for gay men to donate blood.</p>
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		<title>By: ud0n1kn0wm3@gmail.com</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-3/#comment-235850</link>
		<dc:creator>ud0n1kn0wm3@gmail.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is because I hate liars and have no tollerance for them.  There is a clear difference in motivation, here.  After all if you were really serving another for their benifit, not your own validation, you wouldn&#039;t put that person at risk.  Maybe that is just a connection a few here have yet to grasp :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is because I hate liars and have no tollerance for them.  There is a clear difference in motivation, here.  After all if you were really serving another for their benifit, not your own validation, you wouldn&#039;t put that person at risk.  Maybe that is just a connection a few here have yet to grasp :/</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Bomb</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-3/#comment-235834</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Bomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, what the hell?  You post the above after that horribly rude bullcrap you posted right before it?  Piss off.</description>
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		<title>By: ud0n1kn0wm3</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-3/#comment-235832</link>
		<dc:creator>ud0n1kn0wm3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. 107 · Adam Bomb

I just got back from the Red Cross blood drive at my place of employment. They didn&#039;t want my blood because I&#039;m gay and have been sexually active. I was completely unaware of this policy until now, and I find myself wondering why I didn&#039;t know before. If I&#039;d known, I probably would have lied like the author of the article. My blood is clean, and it really upsets me that they won&#039;t take it. Donating blood has always been a scary experience for me, and I forced myself to sign up a couple months ago at work. I was willing to deal with my fear of giving blood so that I could help someone who needed it. Then I got the proverbial slap in the face. How can this be happening?
Posted: Sep 30, 2009 at 9:09 am 

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Adam, dont worry about giving blood, there are many other ways to serve your community.  I assure you that denying your blood was not personal. It had no direct reflection of their opinion of you.  AT LEAST YOU DIDNT LIE!!!  Besides, i have a friend that cant donate blood either cuz of hepatitis something he got when he was younger... it is ALLLLLLLLLLL ABOUT THE RISKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK and to deny that there is no risk between 2 people of the same sex melting each others butter is just ignorant and irresponsible.  we are talking about other lives.  I am not a people person, but i do give platelets which is about a 2 hour donation... they double bag me cuz my count is so high.... BUT ... they suck out your blood filter out the platelets and pump your blood back into you cold... last tiem i literally left crying it hurt so bad..... so i guess I am telling you this because um, i really dont know.... lol ...other then to tell you that i get denied all the time due to low iron count, they wont even take THAT risk (and you know how desperate they are for platelets &amp; blood).  Peoples lives are at issue and it can have a deadly outcome leaving children without parents.  You don&#039;t think it is worth that risk, do you? I understand the desire to give back, but never to satisfy ones narcissistic ways.

Anyways, thanks for being truthful.  Character is so hard to find these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. 107 · Adam Bomb</p>
<p>I just got back from the Red Cross blood drive at my place of employment. They didn&#039;t want my blood because I&#039;m gay and have been sexually active. I was completely unaware of this policy until now, and I find myself wondering why I didn&#039;t know before. If I&#039;d known, I probably would have lied like the author of the article. My blood is clean, and it really upsets me that they won&#039;t take it. Donating blood has always been a scary experience for me, and I forced myself to sign up a couple months ago at work. I was willing to deal with my fear of giving blood so that I could help someone who needed it. Then I got the proverbial slap in the face. How can this be happening?<br />
Posted: Sep 30, 2009 at 9:09 am </p>
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<p>Adam, dont worry about giving blood, there are many other ways to serve your community.  I assure you that denying your blood was not personal. It had no direct reflection of their opinion of you.  AT LEAST YOU DIDNT LIE!!!  Besides, i have a friend that cant donate blood either cuz of hepatitis something he got when he was younger&#8230; it is ALLLLLLLLLLL ABOUT THE RISKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK and to deny that there is no risk between 2 people of the same sex melting each others butter is just ignorant and irresponsible.  we are talking about other lives.  I am not a people person, but i do give platelets which is about a 2 hour donation&#8230; they double bag me cuz my count is so high&#8230;. BUT &#8230; they suck out your blood filter out the platelets and pump your blood back into you cold&#8230; last tiem i literally left crying it hurt so bad&#8230;.. so i guess I am telling you this because um, i really dont know&#8230;. lol &#8230;other then to tell you that i get denied all the time due to low iron count, they wont even take THAT risk (and you know how desperate they are for platelets &amp; blood).  Peoples lives are at issue and it can have a deadly outcome leaving children without parents.  You don&#039;t think it is worth that risk, do you? I understand the desire to give back, but never to satisfy ones narcissistic ways.</p>
<p>Anyways, thanks for being truthful.  Character is so hard to find these days.</p>
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		<title>By: ud0n1kn0wm3</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-3/#comment-235826</link>
		<dc:creator>ud0n1kn0wm3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>omg you totally disgust me.  they also dont take blood from drug addicts/needle users, people who have been to certain regions of the world and people in jail and for many other reasons.  it is for the safety of others.  if you knowingly practice something that is risky and ignore the risk you are being terribly selfish and irresponsible.  

I am disgusted.  you should  be serving jail time for that shit.  I give platelets, i give til it literally hurts, and i am a total bitch, but i would never lie about something so important WHEN IT IMPACTS CHILDREN AND OTHER PEOPLE!  is your pride more important than their lives???

you are an idiot.  what comes around goes around.  People like you make me lose faith in humanity one idiot at a time.  what is this world coming to?

and for all you &quot;straight&quot; people who think you are better than others who are gay, GET A CLUE OR BUY A VOWEL YOU ARE JUST AS MUCH OF A SINNER AS THEY ARE.

ugh sometimes i am embarrassed of being a part of this human race.  People like you are why we need more chlorine in the gene pool.

I DON&#039;T EVEN KNOW HOW I GOT TO THIS WEBSITE!  BAD BAD redirector!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omg you totally disgust me.  they also dont take blood from drug addicts/needle users, people who have been to certain regions of the world and people in jail and for many other reasons.  it is for the safety of others.  if you knowingly practice something that is risky and ignore the risk you are being terribly selfish and irresponsible.  </p>
<p>I am disgusted.  you should  be serving jail time for that shit.  I give platelets, i give til it literally hurts, and i am a total bitch, but i would never lie about something so important WHEN IT IMPACTS CHILDREN AND OTHER PEOPLE!  is your pride more important than their lives???</p>
<p>you are an idiot.  what comes around goes around.  People like you make me lose faith in humanity one idiot at a time.  what is this world coming to?</p>
<p>and for all you &#034;straight&#034; people who think you are better than others who are gay, GET A CLUE OR BUY A VOWEL YOU ARE JUST AS MUCH OF A SINNER AS THEY ARE.</p>
<p>ugh sometimes i am embarrassed of being a part of this human race.  People like you are why we need more chlorine in the gene pool.</p>
<p>I DON&#039;T EVEN KNOW HOW I GOT TO THIS WEBSITE!  BAD BAD redirector!</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Slappy</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-3/#comment-230936</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain Slappy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most excellent. You see, semen-filled sodomy blood makes normal people do two things:

#1- Not want anything to do with you.
#2- Use a shitload of Pine Sol wherever you go.

Try to figure out WHY they don&#039;t want it, then go be normal, and this will stop. Really, that hard kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most excellent. You see, semen-filled sodomy blood makes normal people do two things:</p>
<p>#1- Not want anything to do with you.<br />
#2- Use a shitload of Pine Sol wherever you go.</p>
<p>Try to figure out WHY they don&#039;t want it, then go be normal, and this will stop. Really, that hard kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Bomb</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-3/#comment-220932</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Bomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got back from the Red Cross blood drive at my place of employment.  They didn&#039;t want my blood because I&#039;m gay and have been sexually active.  I was completely unaware of this policy until now, and I find myself wondering why I didn&#039;t know before.  If I&#039;d known, I probably would have lied like the author of the article.  My blood is clean, and it really upsets me that they won&#039;t take it.  Donating blood has always been a scary experience for me, and I forced myself to sign up a couple months ago at work.  I was willing to deal with my fear of giving blood so that I could help someone who needed it.  Then I got the proverbial slap in the face.  How can this be happening?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got back from the Red Cross blood drive at my place of employment.  They didn&#039;t want my blood because I&#039;m gay and have been sexually active.  I was completely unaware of this policy until now, and I find myself wondering why I didn&#039;t know before.  If I&#039;d known, I probably would have lied like the author of the article.  My blood is clean, and it really upsets me that they won&#039;t take it.  Donating blood has always been a scary experience for me, and I forced myself to sign up a couple months ago at work.  I was willing to deal with my fear of giving blood so that I could help someone who needed it.  Then I got the proverbial slap in the face.  How can this be happening?</p>
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		<title>By: chip</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-3/#comment-219920</link>
		<dc:creator>chip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 20:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-113427&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PearlsBeforeSwine&lt;/a&gt;: 

See thats strange because in the uk (where I am) they aren&#039;t fussed for bone marrow and all the registries are interlinked anyway. 

I officially can&#039;t give blood anymore simply because my boyfriend is bisexual and has been with men. It&#039;s ridiculous and out dated. While I understand the absolute need for clean blood it all gets tested and those patients with weak or non-existent immune systems receiving transfusions i.e leukemia sufferers receive irradiated blood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link_DISABLED" href="#comment-113427" rel="nofollow">PearlsBeforeSwine</a>: </p>
<p>See thats strange because in the uk (where I am) they aren&#039;t fussed for bone marrow and all the registries are interlinked anyway. </p>
<p>I officially can&#039;t give blood anymore simply because my boyfriend is bisexual and has been with men. It&#039;s ridiculous and out dated. While I understand the absolute need for clean blood it all gets tested and those patients with weak or non-existent immune systems receiving transfusions i.e leukemia sufferers receive irradiated blood.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren R</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-3/#comment-213492</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 00:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First I&#039;d like to admit that I did NOT read the multitude of replies to this article, and I do agree with the general theme of the post.

I&#039;m betting everything has been said in the 8 1/2 months since this was first posted, however I have one thing to add.

Sure, a man having anal sex with a man is considered a higher risk for HIV in today&#039;s society, but what about WOMEN who have anal sex?

The whole rear-end bit in itself adds risk when it comes to contracting STDs/STIs, INCLUDING HIV/AIDS, regardless of who you are, your orientation... 

Not once when I have donated blood have I seen a box for women who have had anal sex, but every time I see the box for male/male contact.

I find this personally offensive, though I am not a male, and it should be fixed. If you&#039;re going to prevent healthy gay men from donating blood and helping the community, then you should stop every single woman who has ever had a penis in her rear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First I&#039;d like to admit that I did NOT read the multitude of replies to this article, and I do agree with the general theme of the post.</p>
<p>I&#039;m betting everything has been said in the 8 1/2 months since this was first posted, however I have one thing to add.</p>
<p>Sure, a man having anal sex with a man is considered a higher risk for HIV in today&#039;s society, but what about WOMEN who have anal sex?</p>
<p>The whole rear-end bit in itself adds risk when it comes to contracting STDs/STIs, INCLUDING HIV/AIDS, regardless of who you are, your orientation&#8230; </p>
<p>Not once when I have donated blood have I seen a box for women who have had anal sex, but every time I see the box for male/male contact.</p>
<p>I find this personally offensive, though I am not a male, and it should be fixed. If you&#039;re going to prevent healthy gay men from donating blood and helping the community, then you should stop every single woman who has ever had a penis in her rear.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-3/#comment-183267</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me put it very simply: If we are able to successfully test blood for diseases then everybody should be allowed to donate and if we are NOT able to successfully test blood for diseases then NOBODY should be allowed to donate. Seeing as last time I checked our society was at the former, I really don&#039;t see what the problem is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me put it very simply: If we are able to successfully test blood for diseases then everybody should be allowed to donate and if we are NOT able to successfully test blood for diseases then NOBODY should be allowed to donate. Seeing as last time I checked our society was at the former, I really don&#039;t see what the problem is.</p>
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		<title>By: Bringer of sad truth</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-3/#comment-175468</link>
		<dc:creator>Bringer of sad truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 13:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-148836&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Alice&lt;/a&gt;: 
Sadly, no.  Discrimination based on sexual orientation is not illegal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link_DISABLED" href="#comment-148836" rel="nofollow">Alice</a>:<br />
Sadly, no.  Discrimination based on sexual orientation is not illegal.</p>
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		<title>By: Burka</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-3/#comment-174319</link>
		<dc:creator>Burka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 08:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give this man a Pulitzer - fantastic response. Well put friend, well put.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give this man a Pulitzer &#8211; fantastic response. Well put friend, well put.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-3/#comment-174298</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 07:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lyssa, you are a bitter woman who keeps calling &quot;fags&quot; self-centered for opposing this rule, and yet you yourself whine about how gays don&#039;t think about how it affects trans women like you. None of your arguments hold water. Posting a lot doesn&#039;t make up for it.

Someone said they know they don&#039;t have HIV, and so lie to give blood. Then you accuse them of passing on HIV?!?! Ridiculous. You make no sense, and neither does this rule. Gay men - get tested (like everyone should), and if you don&#039;t have HIV lie and donate. The rule should be changed, but until it does the blood banks need all the donations they can get. I wouldn&#039;t call it breaking the law, I would call it civil disobedience at its finest.

Also, DON&#039;T boycott the Red Cross or oppose blood collection efforts in any way. It&#039;s the FDA&#039;s fault, anyway, and taking it out on the people who need blood isn&#039;t fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lyssa, you are a bitter woman who keeps calling &#034;fags&#034; self-centered for opposing this rule, and yet you yourself whine about how gays don&#039;t think about how it affects trans women like you. None of your arguments hold water. Posting a lot doesn&#039;t make up for it.</p>
<p>Someone said they know they don&#039;t have HIV, and so lie to give blood. Then you accuse them of passing on HIV?!?! Ridiculous. You make no sense, and neither does this rule. Gay men &#8211; get tested (like everyone should), and if you don&#039;t have HIV lie and donate. The rule should be changed, but until it does the blood banks need all the donations they can get. I wouldn&#039;t call it breaking the law, I would call it civil disobedience at its finest.</p>
<p>Also, DON&#039;T boycott the Red Cross or oppose blood collection efforts in any way. It&#039;s the FDA&#039;s fault, anyway, and taking it out on the people who need blood isn&#039;t fair.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-2/#comment-148836</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 03:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last time I checked it was unlawful to discriminate a person based on sexual orientation. So why does this law suddenly disappear when it comes to LGBT? I fucking hate idiots who are too stubborn to get over the fact that these people share the same rights as everyone else. Americans need to quit being fucking homphobes and pull their heads out of their asses and get concerned about REAL issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last time I checked it was unlawful to discriminate a person based on sexual orientation. So why does this law suddenly disappear when it comes to LGBT? I fucking hate idiots who are too stubborn to get over the fact that these people share the same rights as everyone else. Americans need to quit being fucking homphobes and pull their heads out of their asses and get concerned about REAL issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-2/#comment-117787</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-114571&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Florence Nightingale&lt;/a&gt;: 
What aren&#039;t people understanding.....  Yes statistically Gay men are at higher risk of carrying the HIV virus, but who lives their lives according to statistics?  The fact is that gay Men get tested more frequently than straight people as a whole.  Yes, there is a chance that a recent infection can go undetected but that recent infection can be with anyone not just gay men.  This law implies that Gay men are the only human beings that can carry this disease.  Maybe, we should focus on our testing equipment and figure out a way to detect the infection at a lower level or maybe preserve the blood for a month then test it?  Why aren&#039;t any of these suggestions an option?  It&#039;s discrimination no matter which way you slice it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link_DISABLED" href="#comment-114571" rel="nofollow">Florence Nightingale</a>:<br />
What aren&#039;t people understanding&#8230;..  Yes statistically Gay men are at higher risk of carrying the HIV virus, but who lives their lives according to statistics?  The fact is that gay Men get tested more frequently than straight people as a whole.  Yes, there is a chance that a recent infection can go undetected but that recent infection can be with anyone not just gay men.  This law implies that Gay men are the only human beings that can carry this disease.  Maybe, we should focus on our testing equipment and figure out a way to detect the infection at a lower level or maybe preserve the blood for a month then test it?  Why aren&#039;t any of these suggestions an option?  It&#039;s discrimination no matter which way you slice it!</p>
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		<title>By: lyssa</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-2/#comment-115993</link>
		<dc:creator>lyssa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*shakes her head*</description>
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		<title>By: lyssa</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-2/#comment-115992</link>
		<dc:creator>lyssa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-115159&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HYHYBT&lt;/a&gt;: 

Its about the lying, and demanding a cookie for it.

What part of lying is bad do you not grasp?

What part of self aggrandizement masquerading as altruism do you not comprehend?

Sometimes, ya gotta tell the truth, and be honest with yourself.

And it hurts to see this so lacking among gay men.

After all, where do you think I came from? I wasn&#039;t born a lesbian...just gay and male.

Think about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link_DISABLED" href="#comment-115159" rel="nofollow">HYHYBT</a>: </p>
<p>Its about the lying, and demanding a cookie for it.</p>
<p>What part of lying is bad do you not grasp?</p>
<p>What part of self aggrandizement masquerading as altruism do you not comprehend?</p>
<p>Sometimes, ya gotta tell the truth, and be honest with yourself.</p>
<p>And it hurts to see this so lacking among gay men.</p>
<p>After all, where do you think I came from? I wasn&#039;t born a lesbian&#8230;just gay and male.</p>
<p>Think about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Burka</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-2/#comment-115625</link>
		<dc:creator>Burka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-115086&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;lyssa&lt;/a&gt;: 

I think you&#039;re math is a little fuzzy with that &quot;2 wrongs don&#039;t make a right&quot; line...

Tis ridiculous policy (1 wrong) + a CLEAN AND HEALTHY gay man who lies and donates blood (another wrong) = someone&#039;s life being saved when they otherwise would have died (must be another wrong...right?)

Get off your high horse and think about what REALLY matters - morality isn&#039;t morality when it&#039;s done simply for the sake of trying to be moral. When the bigger picture calls for a little lie in order to do a lot of good, it&#039;s far from fair to call such a lie immoral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link_DISABLED" href="#comment-115086" rel="nofollow">lyssa</a>: </p>
<p>I think you&#039;re math is a little fuzzy with that &#034;2 wrongs don&#039;t make a right&#034; line&#8230;</p>
<p>Tis ridiculous policy (1 wrong) + a CLEAN AND HEALTHY gay man who lies and donates blood (another wrong) = someone&#039;s life being saved when they otherwise would have died (must be another wrong&#8230;right?)</p>
<p>Get off your high horse and think about what REALLY matters &#8211; morality isn&#039;t morality when it&#039;s done simply for the sake of trying to be moral. When the bigger picture calls for a little lie in order to do a lot of good, it&#039;s far from fair to call such a lie immoral.</p>
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		<title>By: Burka</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-2/#comment-115624</link>
		<dc:creator>Burka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-115159&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HYHYBT&lt;/a&gt;: 

Amen, amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link_DISABLED" href="#comment-115159" rel="nofollow">HYHYBT</a>: </p>
<p>Amen, amen.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachery</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-2/#comment-115192</link>
		<dc:creator>Zachery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, my school hosts a blood drive every 6 weeks or so for Carder Blood Care. I have so far donated two times. I am a sexualy active gay! When i went to donate blood the first time, they asked me if I have had sex with another male even once, and I said no. Now that was a lie, but I lied because I know that I am negative for all STD&#039;s. Each time I have sex, I always get tested! ALWAYS!!!!!! So I see no reason why I can&#039;t donate blood just because the label &#039;gay&#039; has been placed on my life. So about 2 weeks after I donated blood for the first time, I recieved a postcard from Carder Blood Care asking me to make sure I donate next time because my blood type is O- and that makes my blood pretty rare. (not the the rariest but close to it) So I once again i prooved I did not have tanted blood because of the screening I know that they do on every single drop of blood that works its way through the facility. So 2 days ago they were back for students to donate blood. Of course I went to sign in and donate. And I was wearing a rainbow sweat band on my rist. I donated double (where they only take my red blood cells and give me back my plasma and placelets) and when I was done, they ladie had the nerve to ask me why I am wearing that sweat band. I gladly said that I was gay and it is a symbol of the gay community and gay pride. she gave me the most dirtiest look I have ever gotten, and being gay I get a lot of dirty looks. I was mad as hell. this lady knew that I have donated before and that my blood was healthy and clean, but because I have the lable of being gay, she had to stick her two sence in. I am soooo glad that Obama is president because he supports gya rights, and hopefully someday he will put an end to this ridiculous law!!!!

~Zach~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, my school hosts a blood drive every 6 weeks or so for Carder Blood Care. I have so far donated two times. I am a sexualy active gay! When i went to donate blood the first time, they asked me if I have had sex with another male even once, and I said no. Now that was a lie, but I lied because I know that I am negative for all STD&#039;s. Each time I have sex, I always get tested! ALWAYS!!!!!! So I see no reason why I can&#039;t donate blood just because the label &#039;gay&#039; has been placed on my life. So about 2 weeks after I donated blood for the first time, I recieved a postcard from Carder Blood Care asking me to make sure I donate next time because my blood type is O- and that makes my blood pretty rare. (not the the rariest but close to it) So I once again i prooved I did not have tanted blood because of the screening I know that they do on every single drop of blood that works its way through the facility. So 2 days ago they were back for students to donate blood. Of course I went to sign in and donate. And I was wearing a rainbow sweat band on my rist. I donated double (where they only take my red blood cells and give me back my plasma and placelets) and when I was done, they ladie had the nerve to ask me why I am wearing that sweat band. I gladly said that I was gay and it is a symbol of the gay community and gay pride. she gave me the most dirtiest look I have ever gotten, and being gay I get a lot of dirty looks. I was mad as hell. this lady knew that I have donated before and that my blood was healthy and clean, but because I have the lable of being gay, she had to stick her two sence in. I am soooo glad that Obama is president because he supports gya rights, and hopefully someday he will put an end to this ridiculous law!!!!</p>
<p>~Zach~</p>
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		<title>By: HYHYBT</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-2/#comment-115159</link>
		<dc:creator>HYHYBT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get this. You agree that the policy is wrong, even calling it &quot;insane&quot;, yet still insist that anyone, no matter how clean and disease-free they are, is still somehow endangering lives if they tell a lie to get around it. I hate to ask, but would you mind providing the logic behind this, or is it just based on the hatred for gay men in general you seem to spout no matter what the topic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t get this. You agree that the policy is wrong, even calling it &#034;insane&#034;, yet still insist that anyone, no matter how clean and disease-free they are, is still somehow endangering lives if they tell a lie to get around it. I hate to ask, but would you mind providing the logic behind this, or is it just based on the hatred for gay men in general you seem to spout no matter what the topic?</p>
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		<title>By: lyssa</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-2/#comment-115155</link>
		<dc:creator>lyssa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-115132&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jake&lt;/a&gt;: 
Sounds like you might be giving a lil more than life with that pint...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link_DISABLED" href="#comment-115132" rel="nofollow">Jake</a>:<br />
Sounds like you might be giving a lil more than life with that pint&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-2/#comment-115132</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 23:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Lie every 56 days or so. They test my blood. I play safe in the meantime. I don&#039;t think the Red Cross needs to know who I have sex with, just like I don&#039;t think my coworkers or the US Census or my Pharmacy or any other organization needs to know. I&#039;m here, I&#039;m queer, but you don&#039;t need to know that.

So yeah, I choose to give life. What of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Lie every 56 days or so. They test my blood. I play safe in the meantime. I don&#039;t think the Red Cross needs to know who I have sex with, just like I don&#039;t think my coworkers or the US Census or my Pharmacy or any other organization needs to know. I&#039;m here, I&#039;m queer, but you don&#039;t need to know that.</p>
<p>So yeah, I choose to give life. What of it?</p>
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		<title>By: lyssa</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-2/#comment-115094</link>
		<dc:creator>lyssa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-114918&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;charmion&lt;/a&gt;: 
One has a hard time thinking the policy is bigoted when the people it excludes say things like this:
&quot;what I was saying is that if my blood ever made anyone ill or infected as a result of my lie I accept the blame. sure it would be to late at that point, but I am 100% positive that it is clean. I know lying and then asking for trust is hypocritical, but it&#039;s as much a way of life now as breathing and drinking water.&quot;

So, he and many others here are asking us to trust him with our lives, and at the same time accept that he thinks lying is A-OK since everybody does it.

Cognitive dissonance much?

PS: You can&#039;t make this shit up. I am so glad I come here...I am saving a fortune by not buying cable TV or expensive comedy pay per views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link_DISABLED" href="#comment-114918" rel="nofollow">charmion</a>:<br />
One has a hard time thinking the policy is bigoted when the people it excludes say things like this:<br />
&#034;what I was saying is that if my blood ever made anyone ill or infected as a result of my lie I accept the blame. sure it would be to late at that point, but I am 100% positive that it is clean. I know lying and then asking for trust is hypocritical, but it&#039;s as much a way of life now as breathing and drinking water.&#034;</p>
<p>So, he and many others here are asking us to trust him with our lives, and at the same time accept that he thinks lying is A-OK since everybody does it.</p>
<p>Cognitive dissonance much?</p>
<p>PS: You can&#039;t make this shit up. I am so glad I come here&#8230;I am saving a fortune by not buying cable TV or expensive comedy pay per views.</p>
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		<title>By: lyssa</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-20090116/comment-page-2/#comment-115086</link>
		<dc:creator>lyssa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-115029&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Burka&lt;/a&gt;: 

First things first: I am truly sorry about your friend who was raped. Been there, done that.

Don&#039;t even get me started on the gay men who decided that a deep dicking was all I needed to convince me not to transition.

So, I understand.

That said, the policy affects far more than gay men. Trans women like me for example.

And, if you read my prior posts, I talked about how the policy was wrong. It is half-assed at a minimum.

So, your entire argument is specious, and irrelevant.

Why are gay men demanding a cookie for lying? What part of &#039;two wrongs do not make a right&#039; do they not understand?

I am disallowed under this policy too! And yes, I&#039;m clean, and in a monogamous relationship with the most wonderful trans woman on the planet.

And, I encourage my friends to donate. I tell them why I cannot. That trans women, gay men, and many others of social conscience would like to donate, but cannot, and oh yeah, won&#039;t you donate in their name?

The result? a lot more people give a pint than would otherwise. Because I turn an insane ban on gay and trans women&#039;s blood into useful social action instead of self serving whining.

The difference between me and you is that I am unwilling to lie to stroke my wounded ego. You will freely lie and place others at risk to do so. As far as adding to the blod supply, I dare say that I add more than you this way, with a lotta help from my friends, and raise social awareness too.

I also do not surrender the moral high ground with my approach.

Unlike you. And, I find that gays are all too willing to act immorally when it comes to salving an ego bruised by societal homophobia.

There really are better ways, dear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link_DISABLED" href="#comment-115029" rel="nofollow">Burka</a>: </p>
<p>First things first: I am truly sorry about your friend who was raped. Been there, done that.</p>
<p>Don&#039;t even get me started on the gay men who decided that a deep dicking was all I needed to convince me not to transition.</p>
<p>So, I understand.</p>
<p>That said, the policy affects far more than gay men. Trans women like me for example.</p>
<p>And, if you read my prior posts, I talked about how the policy was wrong. It is half-assed at a minimum.</p>
<p>So, your entire argument is specious, and irrelevant.</p>
<p>Why are gay men demanding a cookie for lying? What part of &#039;two wrongs do not make a right&#039; do they not understand?</p>
<p>I am disallowed under this policy too! And yes, I&#039;m clean, and in a monogamous relationship with the most wonderful trans woman on the planet.</p>
<p>And, I encourage my friends to donate. I tell them why I cannot. That trans women, gay men, and many others of social conscience would like to donate, but cannot, and oh yeah, won&#039;t you donate in their name?</p>
<p>The result? a lot more people give a pint than would otherwise. Because I turn an insane ban on gay and trans women&#039;s blood into useful social action instead of self serving whining.</p>
<p>The difference between me and you is that I am unwilling to lie to stroke my wounded ego. You will freely lie and place others at risk to do so. As far as adding to the blod supply, I dare say that I add more than you this way, with a lotta help from my friends, and raise social awareness too.</p>
<p>I also do not surrender the moral high ground with my approach.</p>
<p>Unlike you. And, I find that gays are all too willing to act immorally when it comes to salving an ego bruised by societal homophobia.</p>
<p>There really are better ways, dear.</p>
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		<title>By: Burka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-113395&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jason K&lt;/a&gt;: Jason@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-114926&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;lyssa&lt;/a&gt;: 

So Lyssa, when my straight male friend was raped by a man when he was younger, but has been tested time and again and to this day, years and years later still remains clean, he lost his right to give blood, right? Even though he doesn&#039;t have HIV, AIDS, or anything but completely healthy blood, and isn&#039;t gay and does not have sex with other men, his blood and organs are no good, right?

So when his little brother needs a kidney transplant, he probably shouldn&#039;t consider donating one in order to save his life, right?

And when someone you love dies because there wasn&#039;t enough of their blood type in the reserve supply, maybe then you&#039;ll reconsider your &quot;moral&quot; views.

Having sex with a man doesn&#039;t mean you have HIV. If you think otherwise, you&#039;re the immoral one in this situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link_DISABLED" href="#comment-113395" rel="nofollow">Jason K</a>: Jason@<a class="atr_link_DISABLED" href="#comment-114926" rel="nofollow">lyssa</a>: </p>
<p>So Lyssa, when my straight male friend was raped by a man when he was younger, but has been tested time and again and to this day, years and years later still remains clean, he lost his right to give blood, right? Even though he doesn&#039;t have HIV, AIDS, or anything but completely healthy blood, and isn&#039;t gay and does not have sex with other men, his blood and organs are no good, right?</p>
<p>So when his little brother needs a kidney transplant, he probably shouldn&#039;t consider donating one in order to save his life, right?</p>
<p>And when someone you love dies because there wasn&#039;t enough of their blood type in the reserve supply, maybe then you&#039;ll reconsider your &#034;moral&#034; views.</p>
<p>Having sex with a man doesn&#039;t mean you have HIV. If you think otherwise, you&#039;re the immoral one in this situation.</p>
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		<title>By: lyssa</title>
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		<dc:creator>lyssa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-114918&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;charmion&lt;/a&gt;: 
Ok dude, repeat after me:

&quot;Two wrongs don&#039;t make a right&quot;

Florence, you can lead a fag to morality, but ya can&#039;t make him drink. Well put, tho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link_DISABLED" href="#comment-114918" rel="nofollow">charmion</a>:<br />
Ok dude, repeat after me:</p>
<p>&#034;Two wrongs don&#039;t make a right&#034;</p>
<p>Florence, you can lead a fag to morality, but ya can&#039;t make him drink. Well put, tho.</p>
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