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“”District spokesperson Ben Horsley released a statement shortly after David’s suicide describing David as having “significant personal challenges on multiple fronts” and that counselors had been in “close regular contact” with him regarding “other issues in his personal life.” Horsley added that David had never reported any incidents of bullying.”"
The typical Mormon passive aggressive attack/response. They make a false claim that there was something wrong with the person and it’s a warning shot out to the family that if they complain they will start releasing supposedly embarrassing or shameful information. The problem is, when the parents aren’t stupid and go to a group like the ACLU that tactic falls apart, they’ve already backtracked and now are only claiming he was seeing a Guidance counselor.
And as for the school claiming that he wasn’t bullied or never reported it….thats funny since it seems like every student that the newspaper spoke to seemed to know the kid was being bullied.
Here we go again!! Mormon church, is a mental illness like all Christians are. The fucking Catholics, and all other fucking Christian church.
THey should keep the threat of a lawsuit out there. That’s the only thing that gives them leverage.
I still don’t understand why he was suspended…. nor, for that matter, can I think of a legitimate reason any school would refuse to tell a parent the reason for a suspension in whatever level of detail they want, immediately, unless either the circumstances indicate the parent could be a danger to the child (in which case they’d be unlikely to send him home to them) or they need time to cook up an excuse.
Utah = Mormon = Hate State
Poor kid never had a chance and you can guarantee no one at the school sees this boys actions acceptable as it removed a problem/gay student from their school.
We all know it’ll never happen (or until after we fight long and hard enough) but cases like THIS are exactly why when middle school kids learn sex-ed, they need to learn about homosexuality, bisexuality and the whole spectrum of sexuality instead of just what reproductive organs people have and only about sex between men and women. It’s this lack of education that leads to gays not only feeling ostracized but actually BEING ostracized. If people/kids were just educated, they wouldn’t have a leg to stand on when bullying gay kids.
Whoa, can we back up a second here…
How does a 14 year old *have access* to a gun?
So many factors here….some already mentioned. Another area that concerns me is that guidance had been seeing him…guidance folks are normally NOT mental health specialists. They deal with academics, course offerings, meeting graduation requirements. This incident…the mass shooting last week…all reflections of the general disenfranchisement that is becoming more pervasive in our society, no matter what religion, ethnic, lifestyle issues are involved….
@KARUADAM: Christianity is a mental illness?
Well to take a completely unrelated story and use it for your own aims.
@NovaNardis: You expect better from someone who, in another thread, said to kill all Russians?
The article already says this ..
“An avid outdoorsman who worked at local gun shows, practiced at the firing range and wanted to serve in the Army”
I would presume that he was a member of the local gun club or similar organisation
@Randal Oulton:Did we read the same artical? He was discribed as an outdoorsmen and worked at gun shows. He had plenty of access. You should look at the gun laws in Utah.
@Cam: Indeed, no different to the releases the catholic church do in relation to when one of the thousands of paedophiles they protect and condone is caught out.
The aggressiveness in this is striking though, it’s almost completely overt. I know the mormon church is quite powerful among the lunatic fringe but the language is very forthright even for the mental cases. They’d never get away with it over here.
This makes me FURIOUS!! He had a supportive family but they couldn’t protect him from his goddamn anti-gay SCHOOL!!!!!
I understand and respect the parent’s wishes not to sue. But it is silence on the issue of how Mormons deal with homosexuality that will cause this boy and others like him to die in vain if there is no lawsuit. Utah has by far the highest suicide rates of young gays in the country. This $%*t has to stop!
I hope the family reconsiders and does sue. The Mormon Church has more money,billionaires and near billionaires than any other church in the west. They should pay for thier arrogance.
By doing so it might cause a debate of reality amongst the school board members that the time has come to teach sex education as though they TOO are in the twenty-first century and not still in the nineteenth, which is EXACTLY where Mitt Romney’s line of thinking was and still is.
These people and their arrogance (along with their idiotic beliefs such as blacks were once a tribe of whites who offended god and HE turned thier hair coarse, made their lips, buttocks and…..Well you get the picture I’m sure)are a threat to the entire population of Utah.
I means seriously, imagine well over HALF of the population of a state believing in such garbage and sending their kids away to “religious reeducation CAMPS”? Cant do it? Well kiddies, that IS what devout Mormons with money do. Make’em pay out of their religious asses.
My condolences. I hope his family gets the counseling they need so they can heal from this tragedy.
NovaNardis you are right to question if Christianity is a mental illness: it isn’t. it is a superstition.
It is the people who follow it who are mentally ill. They produce statements like the one discussed above, that this poor kid had something wrong with him. It isn’t the system, is it, according to these representtives. Christianity really is the root of evil in American society.
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