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Are Politically Incorrect Gay TV Characters “Gaycist”?

Brittany and Santana Lesbian Kissing Scene from Glee


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    • Cam
      Cam

      I wouldn’t use King or Murphy as an example of somebody using the fact that they have gay characters as a defense against OTHER stereotyping.

      Cam on Modern family is a neutered hysterical clown. The gay couple gets into an argument every single episode over some hysterical overeaction from Cam. Additionally when it was first pointed out that they never showed any affection for each other they show spokesperson at first said “You are lucky that we show a gay couple”

      As for Murphy, the gay couple on American Horror Story was a completely dysfunctional couple that hated each other, and on Glee, Kurt was an annoying stalker etc…

      So I wouldn’t say that anybody on TV is using their wonderful depictions of gay characters as an excuse to stereotype others.

      Sep 7, 2012 at 10:22 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ScaryRussianHeather
      ScaryRussianHeather

      “what GQ calls gaycism: “the wrongheaded idea that having gay characters gives you carte blanche to cut PC corners elsewhere.”

      Interesting coming from GQ who was forced to apologize by GLAAD for making homophobic “jokes” about Adam Lambert lacking testosterone when he had a beard for a minute.

      Their apology on 12/13/2011?

      “Re: our Lambert tweet, we were thoughtless and apologize. We shouldn’t make stupid jokes about people’s testosterone. As always, we learn.”

      Oh so 9 months ago they were “~learning” and now they’re preaching and coining NEW HOMOPHOBIC words?”

      Sounds to me like GLAAD needs to address this new word.

      As far as other stereotypes go, that’s their problem; I couldn’t care less. Since every minority groups’”comedy” seems to be self stereotyping anyway.

      Maybe they haven’t figured out it’s not that different than homophobia: any targeting of sexuality as a punchline/snark. Something the LGBT community could stand to also remember when embracing these pop culture icons and stupid tv shows.

      Sep 7, 2012 at 10:54 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MartinDK
      MartinDK

      What is this? An article or an editorial?? The style is cumbersome and feels more like preaching than a feature article. People come here to get news and fun features not the opinions of Lester Braithwaite. They belong in the comments section… Can we please have better writers…

      Sep 7, 2012 at 11:02 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tryintotryme
      tryintotryme

      @MartinDK: So what if it’s an editorial/opinion. Don’t tell me why I come to Queerty. I like the article and think your pointless criticism is obnoxious.

      Sep 7, 2012 at 11:20 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @ScaryRussianHeather:

      Heather, I didn’t know that about GQ, thanks for the info!

      Sep 7, 2012 at 11:27 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • yaoming
      yaoming

      I like the news and opinion on Queerty. Just sayin’.

      Sep 7, 2012 at 1:14 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • vklortho
      vklortho

      But All in the Family used race and all sorts of taboo subjects to highlight issues that were going on at the time. Norman Lear wasn’t trying to go for easy racial stereotypes to get cheap laughs.

      Sep 7, 2012 at 1:34 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • RomanHans
      RomanHans

      The good news is, it’s not just gays who are stereotypical figures of derision. I’m pretty horrified by Two Broke Girls, with both an Arabic and an Asian man with hysterical accents.

      It seems like comedy writers have settled on a formula: relatively plain Caucasian stars, and totally wacky, diverse sidekicks. It’s plainly offensive, but clearly they’re assuming that Americans wouldn’t watch a show starring an actual minority.

      Sep 7, 2012 at 3:29 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Neo
      Neo

      @RomanHans: Unfunny and witless comedy has always relied on playing up stereotypes, especially American writers who unanimously destroy even average conceptions of a sitcom by turning every show into Friends only with different colours and outrageous accents, and talking to the hand etcetera.

      That isn’t to say we in the UK haven’t produced some of the worst, most offensively unfunny material ever produced, after all the people of the UK loved Bernard Manning and Jim Davidson.

      Sep 7, 2012 at 7:01 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • erics
      erics

      I’ve always thought Modern Family was racist and homophobic, at least when I’m forced to watch it. Every episode seems to have everyone except the old, straight, white man acting all crazy and hysterical the whole time, and then the old, straight, white man keeps his cool and fixes everything.

      Sep 7, 2012 at 10:34 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MartinDK
      MartinDK

      @tryintotryme: Yeah i guess it relieves you of thinking for yourself. Sounds like you could need the assistance…

      Sep 8, 2012 at 5:51 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MartinDK
      MartinDK

      Obviously opinions are welcme and potentially fun to read, but only when they are clearly labelled as such and distinction is made between reporting and opinion. Lester Braithwaite seems unable to do just that and passes of personal opinion as some kind of universally valid conclusion. This is dishonest and makes you wonder in what other ways these articles have been manipulated, selective quotation use etc etc.
      Go write for a high school magazine or research proper journalism…

      Sep 8, 2012 at 7:03 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bienclar
      Bienclar

      So much for “avoid personal attacks on bloggers.”

      Sep 8, 2012 at 9:32 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • PTBoat
      PTBoat

      @Cam: Funny, I don’t feel neutered, but my friends joke that the writer’s of “Modern Family” are secretly taping me. I think the full spectrum of the gay world is finally able to be shown on prime time. Gay men and women are combinations of things. Cam, for example can be soft, emotional, and even fey as he screams when he leaves his daughter in the car; however, he’s doing it while he is lofting a heavy trash can in a very “he-man crash window” moment. His character is an ex football playing hick of a guy who can do about anything, but who is not at all afraid to play Diana Ross during the Mahogany years.

      No one is all one thing. I think Murphy, and his crew, are doing a great job of showing the evolution of self in high school. The Kurt character does act as an annoying stalker, but eventually comes into his own and finds a stronger love than, perhaps, the other kids around him. This is true for the self loathing, Santana, who is beginning to blossom this season. While the story arcs are following main stream acceptance levels, they are still arcing and more and more progress is being made and I am especially pleased that the gay character is not longer expected to be an angel, pitied, or the representative of pure, broken evil.

      Sep 8, 2012 at 10:27 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kev C
      Kev C

      Who cares? Watching TV is for old people. Old people enjoy stereotypes and smelling stale.

      Sep 8, 2012 at 10:31 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • PTBoat
      PTBoat

      I find it fascinating that GQ, a magazine who’s subscription I suspended ages ago because of their blatant homophobia, is now acting as the defenders of all things gay. How the world changes.

      Sep 8, 2012 at 10:45 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kev C
      Kev C

      @PTBoat: Gays are still not accepted by society. Just pinkwashing is. Pinkwash everything, yeah yeah yeah!

      Sep 8, 2012 at 10:49 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dumdum
      Dumdum

      @RomanHans: The cook is Hungarian not Arabic.

      Sep 8, 2012 at 12:32 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dumdum
      Dumdum

      @Kev C: You crazy kids with your X-Boxes and your YouTube got your fingers on the pulse of the world.The all knowing, all seeing youth of today.So smart and stylish how I envy you.George Bernard Shaw said that” youth was wasted on the young.”Guess he never thought about kids like you.

      Sep 8, 2012 at 12:45 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • RomanHans
      RomanHans

      @Dumdum: Thanks for that. I can’t get through more than three minutes of the show without throwing something at the TV. It makes “Flo” look like Chekhov.

      And bad news: I watched “The New Normal” and it’s not good. I think the main flaw is the queeny lead who has all the mincing swish of Jack from “Will and Grace” but none of his ditzy charm or wit.

      Sep 8, 2012 at 1:33 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • balehead
      balehead

      All gays are cliches anways…take them all off tv…

      Sep 8, 2012 at 7:57 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dumdum
      Dumdum

      @balehead: In our current(and I use the term loosely)culture. Everything and everyone is a cliche,even you. Perhaps especially you.

      Sep 9, 2012 at 7:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dumdum
      Dumdum

      The modern media has all the depth and glitter of a worn dime.However showing Gay characters on prime time T.V. is a step forward and does create an environment of acceptance. I am grateful that we are perceived in a non-threatening humorous manner.

      Sep 9, 2012 at 8:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • hyhybt
      hyhybt

      I’m just trying to figure out how a vagina is like a tarantula, other than my not wanting to see either of them.

      Sep 19, 2012 at 6:31 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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