Is George W. Bush the world’s biggest hypocrite or just complete devoid of any sense of shame? It’s not a rherorical question. Now we are learning that Bush not only wanted to attend the wedding of a lesbian couple who are friends of the family. He actually offered to officiate.
Yes, the same George W. Bush who rode to re-election in 2004 on a campaign that whipped conservative evangelicals into a frenzy about the same-sex marriage threat wanted to preside at a same-sex wedding.
In the end, Bush did not officiate or even attend the wedding. But it’s not as if he had a sudden outburst of principle or a change of heart. He had a scheduling conflict. (No word if he asked Antonin Scalia to sub for him.)
The news was buried as a throwaway remark in a Boston Globe story about the Jeb Bush compound in Maine. The story noted that when in Kennebunkport, Jeb visits the “cozy general store owned by Bonnie Clement and her wife, Helen Thorgalsen.” Then, almost as an afterthought, reporter Matt Viser adds: “(George H.W. Bush made international headlines when he attended their wedding in 2013; George W. Bush offered to perform the ceremony but had a scheduling conflict).”
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Contacted by the Washington Blade for more details, Viser said, “I’ll pretty much let the piece speak for itself on this one.”
And what does the piece say? Well, it could be saying a few things. It could be saying that Bush has changed his opinion, much like the rest of America. Or it could by saying that Bush says one thing publicly and does another thing privately. Or perhaps that Bush is perfectly willing to sell out his personal beliefs for political gain.
The first options seems the least likely. Or if it is true, Bush doesn’t have the courage to say so. When his dad attended the wedding, reporters asked for a comment from W. What they got from his spokesman was “Thanks for checking, but no comment.”
Which leaves options two and three. Draw your own conclusions.
Ironically, at this point, nothing can harm W. But his brother Jeb is another story. Conservatives in the Republican party are already distrustful of Jeb and his presidential aspirations. He’s already been using the media to send some mixed signals about marriage: first that he’s not a hard-liner, and then that he is.
The news that brother George was willing to officiate at a same-sex wedding will only confirm conservatives’ belief that the whole family is a bunch of Republicans-in-name-only.
It goes to show that even an innocuous story about a seaside getaway can be a political landmine waiting to go off.
lauraspencer
It shows that Republicans and Democrats are not much different when it comes to gay marriage. Both have used marriage as an issue to get what they need politically. It is now convenient for Bush to “come out of the closet” on the issue. Let’s remember that both Hillary C. and Obama were against gay marriage as well in the 2008 election and in the 2012 one as well. Politicians are the same. Sadly, they say what they need to say to get elected even if it goes against their personal beliefs.
Sweetie Pie
Bitches gonna bitch
Giancarlo85
@lauraspencer: Oh but you’re wrong. They are very different on this issue. Republicans as a highly socially conservative and are against same sex marriage in a vast majority. And Obama was against gay marriage in the 2012 election? You are a historical revisionist too. You just have to trash on Hillary as usual. This is an article about Republicans and Hillary wasn’t running in 2012.
You just don’t get it. Republicans are by a vast degree socially conservative and they are against equal rights as are their constituents. Time to get with reality.
Milk
Why would anyone wants to ruin their wedding by inviting this lump of meat head?
martinbakman
Someday (before he’s really dead and it’s time to reach inside and hit the off button) I would love to know what Cheney really thought of Bush. He must have realized what a dope Bush was. Would be interesting and fun to know Cheney’s personal thoughts on little Bush.
lauraspencer
@Giancarlo85:
I’m not a revisionist. I made an error in my Obama comment. He and Clinton both did not support gay marriage in 2008 during their campaigns. Obama did come out in support of marriage in March 2012. Clinton did not state that she supported gay marriage until March 2013.
I know Clinton didn’t run in 2012. She was busy deleting emails and planning her escape from the State Dept after the Benghazi scandal. I understand her wanting to step down with her health issues at her age. It couldn’t be easy.
My comment wasn’t in support of Bush, Clinton or Obama. It was simply showing that politicians are often the same saying what they need to say to get elected.
Desert Boy
The Ranch Chimp is a vicious homophobe who advocated for a Constitutional Amendment to make same-sex marriage illegal. Officiate at a gay wedding? That’s like a Nazi saying he would babysit the kids. No thanks.
jwtraveler
@Milk: Wedding receptions usually include some form of entertainment. Nowadays people are coming up with novel ways to make their weddings unique. I’ve never seen a clown at a wedding, but I could see it as a possibility. I doubt that he’d even need a red nose to pull it off.
Johnnie Apodaca
I wouldn’t want him to.
Robert Hillyer
Who knew Citibank and Chase were both the same sex?
Cam
@lauraspencer: said….
“It shows that Republicans and Democrats are not much different when it comes to gay marriage. Both have used marriage as an issue to get what they need politically.”
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Can this phony argument be acknowledged by the right wing as having failed so we don’t have to have these phony posts anymore?
Lets see, you claim that the GOP and the DEMS are not much different on gay marriage……except that one group is pushing it forward, and the other side is attacking it. That is actually the definition of being on opposite sides.
But nice try.
wagnerwallace
@lauraspencer: Youre totally right.
lauraspencer
@Cam:
Deary, the Dems did not start “pushing it forward” until there was a tipping point in polls across the US that said most voters would support gay marriage. If the majority of voters in this country were against gay marriage teh Dems would not be speaking up for it. Where were the Dems in 2004 when marriage was the talk in Massachusetts? Did they support it? No. Did Obama, Clinton, Edwards, Richardson, et. al. support it in the 2008 election. No.
The Dems started supporting it in dribbles about 3 years ago when Biden brought the issue up in an interview basically forcing Obama to now discuss it.
Leaders are people who make decicisions when they are difficult to do so. They LEAD. In the case of the Dems most of them have been followers on this topic, following the polls and beign more concerned about getting votes than doing the right thing. Republicans have been followers and fighters on this issue because of pandering to the religious right in order to get their vote.
Both political parties have used and continue to use the marriage topic to whatever is most convenient for them at the time to get the most votes.
Bauhaus
@lauraspencer:
Bush was incapable of answering any question, of giving any speech, a State of the Union Address, or any interview, without slipping in the almighty “sanctity of marriage” and the need for a Constitutional Amendment. It didn’t matter the topic. Did you sleep through the Bush reign of nincompoopery?
In the past, democrats may have not openly supported SSM, in order to get elected, but they certainly weren’t trying to make life more difficult for us, nor enshrine discrimination into the Constitution. Bill Clinton’s odious laws were the lesser of the evils at the time. I don’t think he took pleasure in it, saw it as a victory.
Of course politicians say what they need to say to get elected. The problem is, republicans say we don’t deserve civil rights and the right to marry. Not one of the 2016 republican contenders is in favor of SSM, or civil rights and protections for gays. What does that “say”?
Also, Obama did support marriage equality all along. He just couldn’t say so; the country wasn’t ready at the time, thanks to almost a decade of Bush and his despicable administration denigrating us.
Bauhaus
@lauraspencer:
“Both political parties have used and continue to use the marriage topic to whatever is most convenient for them at the time to get the most votes.”
Typical right-wing drivel. The difference is, democrats are doing the right thing, even it’s taken “evolving” on the issue. I’ve never believed democrats have “evolved”, but that the country wasn’t ready, thanks to right-wing rhetoric. Philosophically, cons will never come to terms with civil rights in this country. They will always drag their feet, find one reason or another to make life difficult for us. They’ll continue to feel morally superior, and cheated if we gain the rights we’ve fought long and hard for. They’d rather do away with marriage altogether, than share it with us. Guys like Rubio say they’ll go to a gay wedding. What’s the point in going, if you’re gonna go with a clothespin on your nose and eyeshades on?
NoCagada
@lauraspencer: Try FACTS not FOX…or does FOX employ you to be here?
lauraspencer
@Bauhaus:
If Obama supported marriage equality all along, but he just couldn’t say so as you state in your above comment then whose to say there are other politicians who also support gay marriage and they too can’t state their true beliefs on the topic? Obama didn’t say his true feelings because he was concerned about votes. The same thing can be said for other politicians I’m sure. If you are making the leap without personally knowing Obama than you should make the same assumption for others.
If 2008 – 2012 was a different time and the “country wasn’t ready” when Obama was in office do you think the country was ready in 2000 – 2008 when Bush was in office?
For the record, I am not Republican and didn’t vote for Bush either time. I’m just making the point that politicians regardless of party say and do whatever they need to do to get the right number of votes to win. This is also why Bush used the marriage issue in the campaign. I don’t believe he honestly ever intended to pass legislation, but he did intend to use it to incite the religious right and get their votes.
DuMaurier
Haven’t we rehashed Obama’s “evolution” often enough and in enough exacting detail? Leave it to his post-presidential autobiography and move on.
On the article’s question, I imagine the answer is something everyone in “real life” already knows; things blur when convictions and personal relationships intersect. I’m still friends with a woman I worked with ages ago. She’s a rigid conservative Christian who also throws great parties. Sometimes I wince at things she posts on Facebook, but when a group of us go out to dinner, drinks and a play, none of that stuff ever comes up, not one word. It’s just that nobody writes articles about us, or the millions of other ordinary people who work things out just like that.
lauraspencer
@NoCagada:
I actually work for MTV. Not FOX.
lauraspencer
@DuMaurier:
Well said DuMaurier. I wish you would write a sequel to REBECCA!!! Such a great book 🙂
Bauhaus
@lauraspencer:
I just lost all respect for you.
paladin27
@Giancarlo85: Actually he is quite right. Also Democrats don’t give a crap about gays, blacks, or women… Until its election time. They deal in identity politics, and only “care” when its time to vote, because they only care about power.
Republicans on the other hand, have moved quite far from what they were founded on. When Jimmy Carter was running, the Democrats got in bed with the Christian coalition, and it worked for them, they got major votes from the socially conservative and religious. Later on the Republicans did the same exact thing, and it worked for them. However the Democrats completely ditched the Christian coalition, but the Republicans have been stuck with it. So basically now Republicans have to do the song and dance of being that social conservative, to get the votes of the socially conservative/Christian.
However, not ALL Republicans are like this. There are Republicans like Rand Paul, who put the constitution first, and not “special groups”. Rand may not believe in gay marriage due to his faith, but he strongly believes that the government has no place in telling one, who they can love or marry. Rand’s views are closer to the original beliefs of the Republican party, true and classic liberal views or as people say today “libertarian”- which is growing in popularity today. The Democratic party, and the establishment Republicans dislike people like Rand, because the establishment, and Democratic left don’t like nor care for the constitution.
AtticusBennett
who in their right mind would want that trash war-mongering pig at their wedding!?
Cam
@lauraspencer: said…
“@Cam:
Deary, the Dems did not start “pushing it forward” until there was a tipping point in polls across the US that said most voters would support gay marriage. ”
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Deary, your sad attempt at condescension aside, my point still stands, your original comment was was that the Dems and the GOP “ARE” not that different on marriage.
My response pointed out accurately that one group was for it, one was against it, that is actually the definition of not being the same.
You have to obfuscate and dance around and drop into the past. Your comment stated the present tense, if you wanted to go back in time, my suggestion is to go back, take an English class and learn how to state that. Because you made an incorrect point, I called you on it, and you can’t respond.
There now Deary, it’s ok, you’ll feel better if you just admit you’re wrong.
darian
Hopefully this is the last Republican president this country will have.
Fit-N-Lean
Who cares what George H or George W think about same sex marriage now that they are out of office. If they were truly sincere in being accepting of GLBT people and our community they should of acted in a bold and positive way while in office. Instead they pandered to the conservatives or took a position that cost them the least number of votes politically. The same holds true for Bill Clinton, he’s no different with his Don’t Ask Don’t Tell and DOMA. Action speaks louder than words.
Giancarlo85
@lauraspencer: Damn could you get anymore fake? Hillary as Secretary of State did not comment on domestic affairs but she was busy making statements to the UN in support of LGBt world wide. I already went over this for you. You just don’t seem to read.
In addition, your character attack on Clinton is without merit and evidence. Busy deleting what emails? And the Benghazi scandal? Bitch please. You have nothing. You try to criticize Clinton but you fail miserably.
lauraspencer
@Bauhaus:
That’s fine. You don’t know me. You “know” a screen name and nothing more. I don’t take it personally as so many people seem to do on here. Have a great day.
Theonewhoismany
@AtticusBennett : status seeking elites would want him at their wedding. They feel no affinity towards anything but preservation of their status as Elites. Marriage in most cultures has kinship, exchange rituals and themes of good will associated with its’ ceremonies. I wonder how one would negotiate any of those with a man who is a signifier of perpetuating some of the greatest tragedy, poverty, displacement and human suffering and loss in modern times?
darian
@paladin27: Democrats do tend to care about minorities, gays, and women by the only party that is willing to pass laws that protect women’s health and give them fair pay, make it illegal to fire sometime because they are gay, and reducing sentencing or getting rid of the failed war on drugs especially in areas that specifically target minorities(something I actually commend rand Paul on)
Libertarians just seem to be socially liberal Republicans nothing more. I have yet to hear a libertarian say anything I agree with on an economic front or on foreign issues. the answer I always here is ” smaller government” or “the government should tell people…” As opposed to raising that the government is pretty much all encompassing and trying to make it better.
Giancarlo85
@paladin27: You are totally wrong. Identity politics? Are you kidding me? Democrats run on actual issues, and Republicans are all about the religious right. Democrats don’t care about equality? Are you always this wrong? You are just another sugarcoating BS artist who tries to depict Republicans in a better way than they are.
Sorry, but that idiot Laura has always been wrong on Clinton and Obama. She even made a grievous error when discussing Obama getting his dates all screwed up.
And your statements on Rand Paul reveal your true right wing agenda. Rand Paul is a social conservative who has time and time again stated he is strongly against same sex marriage. You libertarians are all the same… You lie about everything! You libertarians are not growing in popularity… Keep on dreaming. Did you see who the actual frontrunners for the GOP are? Not Rand Paul. Libertarians live in fantasy land and are corporate sell outs who don’t give a shit about the constitution.
lauraspencer
@Giancarlo85:
Deary, you fall back on the same line of defense on every thread “You just don’t seem to read”. That is the same script you followed yesterday on the thread titled “The Struggle of the Straight Acting Gay Man”.
It’s interesting that you always feel the need to attack posters. If you look back at my history on these boards I comment on the story (as I did above). Instead of commenting on the story you always comment on the comments. Once you engage I of course repsond to your comments. Can you go 1 week without attacking posters? You must enjoy bantering and arguing with people. I really wish I could give you a hug to make it all better. Someone hurt you and you feel the need to lash out at people simply posting comments. Have a great day!!
Giancarlo85
@lauraspencer: You fall on the same garbage in every post. The same right wing attacks without any real merit. I say when someone as ignorant as you doesn’t read properly. Are you actually trying to tell us democrats don’t care about LGBT rights? You are full of shit.
You didn’t comment on this story. Like the troll you are, you brought up Obama and Clinton. This thread is about Bush. You insulted under this article. You sidetrack with nonsensical statements about Clinton, Obama and democrats. You never really addressed this article. This is why you are such a vicious hypocritical liar. And now you engage in passive aggressive nastiness.
chuck
This family are a dangerous bunch of A-holes. Oh, and thank you SO much for “mission accomplished” in Iraq.
corey
@lauraspencer: “Both have used marriage as an issue to get what they need politically” … Really, how so? The Democrats supporting it because they are supposed to, being the “liberal” party, not because it would get them votes.
SteveDenver
That is a great picture of America’s Stupidest President.
As for the article: “Bush = Stupid” and this is confirmed by his brother Jeb who is making a run for the presidency and face-planting, as well as youngest brother Neil who presided over Silverado Savings & Loan when it crashed, costing depositors everything and taxpayers nearly $3 billion — that’s over $20 billion in today’s dollars.
tsginamarieva
I freely admit that I’m no more privy to the former President’s innermost thoughts or how those opinions may have evolved than any other commenter here. I know that Laura Bush has been very supportive recently of marriage equality and, @Giancarlo85, I think you’re wrong assuming Bush 41 has been a hypocrite about same sex marriage and tried to use the issue for political gain. The one thing no can say about Bush the Second is that he talked out of both sides of his mouth. He was barely coherent out of one side. As fervently as I hate the Religious Right, I will go to my grave believing that W believed every incomprehensible word that came out of his mouth at any given moment in time. I also believe that he’s probably not unlike the growing majority of Republicans who, now, support same sex marriage and gay rights. He has likely had a change of heart in recent times.
But yes, I also couldn’t agree more about the Religious Right (whom I call God Nazis, because, if the jackboot fits, etc.) being nothing more than goose-stepping bigots in bedsheets who are on the trailing edge of the historical arch toward justice. They are just missing the boat that is sailing away from the Island of Misfit Morons.
thecoloradohiker
I generally do not comment on these idiotic things as those who read them do not really understand anything they read including Queerty which is why I generally delete without opening. I am gay, married to the same partner for 20 years, marriage is a piece of paper, and I get so sick of all the people bashing single issue garbage. Single issue voters got the self-righteous, conceded, joke of a president, he is not worthy of capitals. This is what is wrong with this country. You are so bigoted. You want to have a choice for same sex this and the right to be who you want to but yet in all the liberal left wing nut job conspiracy you also leave out choice. If he wants to CHOOSE whom he officiates or the wedding he attends then that is his right. Your rights are only convenient when it promotes your ignorance. I see Obama has done so much for the LGBT community. I can’t stop laughing. He tells you what you want to hear then allows thousands of innocent gays and christian to be slaughtered while all you are worried about is in your little bubble. Sure there are many things that need to be done but read the constitution, you know what this country was founded on and Obama shreds daily. The federal government has no business to say who can or cannot marry…..just spy on you, read your emails, listen to conversations, and monitor every post made of Facebook. (Yes these are true look them up).
The number one priority for this country is to protect and follow EVERY article not just the ones Obama chooses to like or break. The protection of our country. If you fail to do each of these then not one thing you are protesting and whining about will not exist and they will gladly cut your head off for being gay or a Christian.
I really do not care about your opinions as the will be one sided and not in the overall interest of the country and the safety of each and everyone of us, not single groups or single issues. Stay informed read something besides the mainstream media, do some research for a change. Quit being sheep.
I have a doctorate in Political Science specializing in constitution law. A doctorate is Psychology and Sociology. I am our proud, gay, same partner for 20 years raising our kids. So, try reading this from a different perspective than hate filled speech promoting separation and negativity. Think for a change. Use the brain God gave you, you God that is not allowed in our schools for prayer so muslims can pray so we don’t hurt their feelings. The one in a speech where he mocked God and said in his second term he will get rid of Christmas (Christianity) Research the president and see what he really thinks of gays and Hillary too. She denied they had rights until she wanted to run for president. Now, to make you happy and vote for her she loves us. HA, wake up my fellow LGBTs. Start thinking with your brains not whining without thinking. By the way I will not return to read the comments because I know how you treat gays who do not subscribe to the Kool-Aid philosophy and want to be led as sheep and not think for yourselves.
thecoloradohiker
@Giancarlo85: Moat single issue thinkers are that way. My rights and me me me and screw what is best for the whole country not just us. Thank you.
billywonka
“a lesbian couple who are friends of the family”
W has friends??
Huh… who knew.
Avery Alvarez
@paladin27: Please leave and come back when you and reality have a working relationship with each other, because fiction like this…
“There are Republicans like Rand Paul, who put the constitution first, and not “special groups”. Rand may not believe in gay marriage due to his faith, but he strongly believes that the government has no place in telling one, who they can love or marry. ”
…Either makes you look like a liar or a fool.
Bob LaBlah
@lauraspencer: Well said. Speaking of “leaders” did you see this PBS Frontline 2008 special in regards to our leaders and the true personalities during the war? I am surprised how many people didn’t see it.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/bushswar/view/
Avery Alvarez
@thecoloradohiker: ” Quit being sheep.”
I find that people that say this to others are usually the biggest sheep of all.
lauraspencer
@thecoloradohiker:
Thank you for your post! Great stuff to think about.
lauraspencer
@Bob LaBlah:
I will take a look Bob. Thank you for sharing 🙂
passingthru
@thecoloradohiker: Oh gosh, somebody is very impressed with himself. Probably has a lot of pictures of himself to look at and smile.
Avery Alvarez
@passingthru: People on the internet; They’re aaaallllll doctors, or scientists, or lawyers, or judges, etc…..
passingthru
@Bob LaBlah: Who cares what motivates people? Especially with politicians. What matters is the outcome. It’s pretty clear that you are highly influenced by righty talking points. Those of us who care about results can more easily filter the things that get us nowhere. Benghazi, really?!??! And ageism? Pitiful.
darian
@thecoloradohiker:
“I generally do not comment on these”
Please continue to do so. I think this country will be better for it.
passingthru
@lauraspencer: Oops – sorry Bob, the comment was meant for someone else.
passingthru
@Avery Alvarez: Yes. Do you think that he really has kids? Oh gosh, they’re certainly going to need some therapy.
Bob LaBlah
@passingthru: ” Who cares what motivates people?”
Myself and everyone else who chooses to watch what I posted, that’s who. What a shame you had to have that pointed out to you.
passingthru
@Bob LaBlah: Yeh – I really didn’t need to have that pointed out. It was rhetorical. You probably couldn’t have known that since it’s so difficult to see beyond, well, fill in the blanks since you’re such a smart guy. Made me laugh though. You’re SO much smarter than me. Ha!
passingthru
@Bob LaBlah: Oh yeh, and never start a sentence with “Myself”. It should be: “Everyone and I…..”.
Bob LaBlah
@passingthru: Please don’t tell Ms. Prunelly that I started the sentence wrong. She might send a note home to ol’ uncle Snuffy who will no doubt use that reason to take me out to the woodshed. Please, Please don’t tell her.
(I await my grammatical/spelling correction note).
John
As a college kid I worked in a politicians office and was told, ” You do not know what my beliefs are, I carry out the agenda of those who voted for me. My job and allegiance is to them. My personal belifs do not matter.” As I have grown older and wiser I realize politicians look at the demographics of those they want to represent and spew the rhetoric of the party in hopes of the larger voting block “hiring” them. Look at Pres. Obama in 2008 he was against gay “marriage” in 2012 when the gays were not donating to his campaign or as vocal and excited about him he miraculiusly evolved to energize the gay voting block. The week before he did the same thing with equal pay for women with The Lilly Ledbetter legislation (when basically we have the Equal Pay Act of 1963, but with LL) it energized and excited female voters. So does th fact that Cheney and Bush appear to be in favor surprise me? not at all.
scotshot
A Doctorate in Political Science, a Doctorate in Psychology, a Doctorate in Sociology?
You must be tired after all that and a husband and kids too.
I Believe the only doctorate you possess is the Doctorate in Troll earned at a community college in Colorado Springs.
To state all the above and then upchuck RWNJ standard talking points is not looking at things from a different perspective. For someone who claims to be so highly educated you write from the level of a high school senior. I’m not the best writer, but you take the cake.
But hey, thanks for dropping by.
scotshot
@John:
I worked for a Congresswoman who was involved in politics at city, state, and federal levels. I didn’t see shifts made merely to obtain votes. Her positions did evolve over time, which most people do -ads they gain knowledge. Except the GOTP who’s stuck in the 1950s.
My point? Not all people whore themselves out.
Giancarlo85
@thecoloradohiker: You have a doctorate in idiocy. You are the definition of a single issue voter. You vote for the republican party because you think they are better for the economy. This is based on false assumptions and a delusional fantasy.
First off, marriage is not “a piece of paper”. Marriage includes many federal rights and entitlements, including the ability to see your partner in hospital which has been denied to same sex couples. In addition, it is also further recognition legally.
This President is more worthy than any republican and more worthy than your garbage one sided demented self-depreciating argument. You bash on Obama, but you fail to provide any real reason why you think he’s so horrible. In fact, I don’t even think he’s that great. He’s a merely average President who did not go as far as I would have liked. He’s been too tame for my standards and he has compromised far too much with bigots in the republican party (much like those who hold similar demented opinions like you).
What has Obama done to hurt this country? Name some. Maybe not confronting republicans was a failure of his. Republicans are intent on hurting this country and selling it out to corporations. More of jobs would be then shipped overseas, while someone like you works some 9-5 minimum wage job and send a portion of your money to the Ted Cruz campaign. You really are voting against your own interests in every single front. Not just as a gay person, but as a US Citizen. Republicans are dangerous for this country and have caused significant backlash throughout the entire world.
“Sure there are many things that need to be done but read the constitution, you know what this country was founded on and Obama shreds daily.”
Again, you have no proof for this statement and it seems to me you have never actually read the Constitution. People who whine the most about the Constitution are the least likely to have read it.
” Stay informed read something besides the mainstream media, do some research for a change. Quit being sheep.”
Except you are the BIGGEST sheep of them all and you are merely repeating what you were spoonfed by the right wing. I don’t watch the mainstream media and I vote on multiple issues. I vote on economic and foreign policy issues. The economy and foreign policy are areas republicans fail miserably at. In fact, republican foreign policy is extremely dangerous to this country and would drive this country to multiple international wars. Many republicans have called for the US to put boots on the ground in both Syria and Iraq. This would be a monumental failure.
“I have a doctorate in Political Science specializing in constitution law. A doctorate is Psychology and Sociology.
What? Did your doctorate include proper grammar and sentence structure? Specializing in “constitution law”? ConstitutionAL law. A doctorate is psychology and sociology? Uhhh… what? Psychology and sociology are different areas of study under the social sciences. While they could be somewhat related to political science, they aren’t the same.
I’m an agnostic and I don’t care about your god either. Obama never said anything about getting rid of Christmas or mocking Christianity. Obama is not a Muslim. Learn how to make a rational argument and not one based on infantile stupidity.
You need to wake up and fast. Hillary is far more accepting of LGBT people and have made multiple groundbreaking speeches as Secretary of State decrying abuses throughout the World. She even made a major speech in 2011, a year before Obama came out for same sex marriage. Hillary complained about human rights abuses against LGBT people. Your republican party has directly supported the Ugandan Government. Many republicans are friends with Yoweri Museveni, the brutal Ugandan dictator and has supported the kill the gays bill. Your republican party also has ties to Sheldon Adelson, who has ties to the Chinese mafia known as the Triads. So yes, keep voting for those criminals! You’re the real single issue voter here.
Giancarlo85
@thecoloradohiker: Oh fucking please. If you cared so much about your country, you would not be supporting a political party tied to criminal elements and that supports sending thousands of US troops into Syria and Iraq (again).
If you were so worried and concerned about this country, you would NEVER in a thousand years support ANY republican.
This is what I don’t get. Why do you vote republican? The economy performs like shit under republicans and thousands of Americans come back in bodybags from illegal wars (this has been a legacy since the Nixon administration). It just seems to me, you are totally full of shit.
Giancarlo85
@scotshot: He thinks sociology and psychology is the same as political science LMAO. I was laughing so hard when I read that. It made no sense. Sometimes I make typos, but that seriously was BS! The three fall under the field of Social Sciences, but they are separate areas of study. I doubt he has Doctorates in all three. He doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
scotshot
@Giancarlo85: 😉
Giancarlo85
@scotshot: Actually I have to correct myself. Psychology is a behaviorial science. Not a social science. LOL.
Raúl Hernández
Why are we still giving this asshat any attention?
bobnla
John Gallagher, the hatred you express in your article, as well as that of so many of the commenters, goes far beyond philosophical disagreement, and defies rational perspective; but is a reflection of an intense bigoted agenda and a visceral repugnancy for anything different from your opinion.
batesmotel
People have been changing and shifting their attitudes on gay marriage over the years. Bush is allowed. Good for him. And it was a political move for him at the time. He would not have won the votes. And let’s not forget that when Obama was running against Hillary, she was the only candidate at that time to vocally say she was for Same Sex Marriage. Obama did not and had point black expressed that he was for civil unions and not Same Sex Marriage. Yet the irony is that gays voted for the black guy instead of the woman who supported their marriage. Then the gays were stunned when Obama got in office and wasn’t doing much in the way of same sex marriage. As it stands, he still hasn’t. It was the courts that were approving it. How do you like your Obama now?
Giancarlo85
@bobnla: You are full of yourself. Just another right winger with a victim mentality. Dubya is a mass murderer much like Nixon and Reagan. Dubya continued the Republican partys shit record on international relations, domestic issues and on the economy. The facts are on the wall!
Giancarlo85
@batesmotel: I am fine with Obama and he is a decent president. Really, Joseph Biden is our biggest ally in his administration. However, there is talk Obama made favorable statements for same sex marriage back in the late 1990s. By the way, the executive doesn’t do much as far as marriage. That was always a legal and sometimes legislative battle in states. Like Minnesota for example. California too.
But tell me dude, what can Obama do on same sex marriage with a Congress controlled by rabidly antigay Republicans who are against same sex marriage and also civil unions?