Comments on: Good Morning America Seeks Gay Guppies http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/ Free of an agenda. Except that gay one. Sun, 21 Mar 2010 04:33:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: M Shane http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-81740 M Shane Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:31:04 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-81740 The entire senario amounts to child abuse from parents to broacasters. Children have forever morally inhabited a universe in which they are cared for, allowed to develope in kindness and are not the object of prurient adult interests. All of these scummy fuck brains should be jailedor shot and their children sent to develope freely in their abcense. The entire senario amounts to child abuse from parents to broacasters. Children have forever morally inhabited a universe in which they are cared for, allowed to develope in kindness and are not the object of prurient adult interests.

All of these scummy fuck brains should be jailedor shot and their children sent to develope freely in their abcense.

]]> By: fredo777 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-81570 fredo777 Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:50:23 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-81570 He's like 6 yrs. old. If you're that young, you shouldn't even be on an adult blog. He's like 6 yrs. old. If you're that young, you shouldn't even be on an adult blog.

]]> By: me http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-81564 me Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:36:27 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-81564 im no pedo. im a kid to im no pedo. im a kid to

]]> By: fredo777 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-80595 fredo777 Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:26:36 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-80595 gtfo, pedo. gtfo, pedo.

]]> By: me http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-80538 me Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:18:15 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-80538 i want to fuck that cute kid i want to fuck that cute kid

]]> By: M Shane http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-46272 M Shane Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:18:17 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-46272 I see the same kind of perverse attempts to find "where they failed" in raising gay people. The serious question that you always ask when people want to do case studies jlike this is why? what do you hope to change? This is fucked beyond belief. It's as if they were trying to find the caiuse of a disease. I see the same kind of perverse attempts to find "where they failed" in raising gay people.
The serious question that you always ask when people want to do case studies jlike this is why? what do you hope to change? This is fucked beyond belief. It's as if they were trying to find the caiuse of a disease.

]]> By: Matt http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-46206 Matt Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:07:48 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-46206 One day they will find our gay gene and just reengineer us in the womb. All of this equality, marriage, and gender bending will become a moot point. One day they will find our gay gene and just reengineer us in the womb. All of this equality, marriage, and gender bending will become a moot point.

]]> By: Michael Bedwell http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-46186 Michael Bedwell Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:15:27 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-46186 My problem is that they appear to be proposing EQUATING being gay with being transgendered. While both are "gender variant" in terms of being different from traditional expectations of "males" and "females," and, thus, the discrimination both groups experience are rooted in the same bigotry, it is counterproductive to in any way reinforce the STILL ubiquitous belief that gay men "want to be women" and "lesbians want to be men" if only by juxtaposition in the same program. Scratching below the well-intentioned surface of the feature Leslie Stahl did on "60 Minutes" a year or so ago revealed a great deal of homophobic junk science. E.g., you can "spot" virtually ALL gay men by their appearance and/or body language. That homosexuality and effeminacy in males are virtually the same. And one of their main "experts" was a man who has been criticized by his professional peers for his research methods and for denying that transgender people even exist, and is associated with the same murky group of "scientists" to which the author of the racist "The Bell Curve" belongs. And whatever other good they might do ABC must NEVER be off probation until they apologize for the heinous smear four years ago of Matthew Shepard by "20/20's" Elizabeth Vargas who essentially blamed Shepard for causing his own murder. Though he denied it, Vargas insisted that Shepard's main killer is at least bisexual and "why would a gay/bisexual kill someone for being gay?" Everytime she comes on I have fantasies of bludgeoning her and leaving her tied to a fence in the bitter cold night to drift into unconsciousness in a pool of her own blood and tears. My problem is that they appear to be proposing EQUATING being gay with being transgendered. While both are "gender variant" in terms of being different from traditional expectations of "males" and "females," and, thus, the discrimination both groups experience are rooted in the same bigotry, it is counterproductive to in any way reinforce the STILL ubiquitous belief that gay men "want to be women" and "lesbians want to be men" if only by juxtaposition in the same program.

Scratching below the well-intentioned surface of the feature Leslie Stahl did on "60 Minutes" a year or so ago revealed a great deal of homophobic junk science. E.g., you can "spot" virtually ALL gay men by their appearance and/or body language. That homosexuality and effeminacy in males are virtually the same. And one of their main "experts" was a man who has been criticized by his professional peers for his research methods and for denying that transgender people even exist, and is associated with the same murky group of "scientists" to which the author of the racist "The Bell Curve" belongs.

And whatever other good they might do ABC must NEVER be off probation until they apologize for the heinous smear four years ago of Matthew Shepard by "20/20's" Elizabeth Vargas who essentially blamed Shepard for causing his own murder. Though he denied it, Vargas insisted that Shepard's main killer is at least bisexual and "why would a gay/bisexual kill someone for being gay?" Everytime she comes on I have fantasies of bludgeoning her and leaving her tied to a fence in the bitter cold night to drift into unconsciousness in a pool of her own blood and tears.

]]> By: Rikard http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-46149 Rikard Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:46:26 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-46149 I have the old b/w polaroid of 2yo me in diaper with a baby doll, moms heels and the matching bag. I'm no drag queen now, but don't know how much of my tastes and interests are a product of trying to hide and trying to fit in. Nobody wants to see a sexual identity assigned to a child that by definition is sexualy undeveloped. The show will likely be weird and exploitative and nobody knows better than a bunch of queers how wrong a surface judgement can be, but there are begining to be parents who don't freak out at the idea their child is gay. There are an increasing number of parents who don't take dolls away from their boys and trucks away from their girls, or force them into activities to correct them. They listen to their kids when they say they feel different. We are creating an environment with enough social nutrition for these ideas to thrive. Ideas about what's good for your kid might include helping them figure out if they like girls or boys. Rather than starving, shaming and beating the impulse into the closet. Every day is a brave new world and I might get a brick to the head, imprisioned, fired, or deported, but until then I stand and speak and represent. There is something cheap and sensational about broadcast media, but it's where our social dialogue is happening. There's no better way to flush the homophobes out than a few stories like this and once they are out in the open they can be dealt with. Homophobes are just like homosexuals that way, the scary, dangerous ones are the ones in the closet. Sometimes they are the same senator, er, I mean person. I have the old b/w polaroid of 2yo me in diaper with a baby doll, moms heels and the matching bag. I'm no drag queen now, but don't know how much of my tastes and interests are a product of trying to hide and trying to fit in. Nobody wants to see a sexual identity assigned to a child that by definition is sexualy undeveloped. The show will likely be weird and exploitative and nobody knows better than a bunch of queers how wrong a surface judgement can be, but there are begining to be parents who don't freak out at the idea their child is gay. There are an increasing number of parents who don't take dolls away from their boys and trucks away from their girls, or force them into activities to correct them. They listen to their kids when they say they feel different. We are creating an environment with enough social nutrition for these ideas to thrive. Ideas about what's good for your kid might include helping them figure out if they like girls or boys. Rather than starving, shaming and beating the impulse into the closet. Every day is a brave new world and I might get a brick to the head, imprisioned, fired, or deported, but until then I stand and speak and represent. There is something cheap and sensational about broadcast media, but it's where our social dialogue is happening. There's no better way to flush the homophobes out than a few stories like this and once they are out in the open they can be dealt with. Homophobes are just like homosexuals that way, the scary, dangerous ones are the ones in the closet. Sometimes they are the same senator, er, I mean person.

]]> By: fredo777 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-46081 fredo777 Sun, 23 Mar 2008 03:49:01 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-46081 Well, Odavy, I wouldn't have questioned how butch you truly are if you hadn't preceded it with "oh so...". ; ) <3 Well, Odavy, I wouldn't have questioned how butch you truly are if you hadn't preceded it with "oh so…".

; )

<3

]]> By: odavy http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-46080 odavy Sun, 23 Mar 2008 03:35:34 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-46080 There's something about a tutu - My English grandmother made a tutu for me, for my 5th birthday, in 1955. She was a showgirl in the 20s and she thought I should study ballet. I couldn't agree with her, more (at the time), and would prance and whirl in the tutu, until my siblings, and the kids in the neighborhood (and I), finally ripped it to shreds. Granny also gave me a Vogue doll, which pre-dated Barbie, by a few years, but was the same thing - a big-busted babe in high heels, with a $10,000 wardrobe. I refer to the doll as my "child guidance" toy (when I dare to refer to it). Despite the diabolical assault on my gender identity, I'm oh so Butch! So who's queerer? Granny or me? There's something about a tutu -
My English grandmother made a tutu for me, for my 5th birthday, in 1955. She was a showgirl in the 20s and she thought I should study ballet. I couldn't agree with her, more (at the time), and would prance and whirl in the tutu, until my siblings, and the kids in the neighborhood (and I), finally ripped it to shreds.
Granny also gave me a Vogue doll, which pre-dated Barbie, by a few years, but was the same thing – a big-busted babe in high heels, with a $10,000 wardrobe.
I refer to the doll as my "child guidance" toy (when I dare to refer to it).

Despite the diabolical assault on my gender identity, I'm oh so Butch!

So who's queerer? Granny or me?

]]> By: fredo777 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-46073 fredo777 Sun, 23 Mar 2008 02:32:12 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-46073 I have to say, that kid in the tutu is too adorable. He looks very happy. I have to say, that kid in the tutu is too adorable.

He looks very happy.

]]> By: Charley http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-46070 Charley Sun, 23 Mar 2008 00:45:14 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-46070 Instant Gay Infant Alert. Be careful sucking that passafier too hard. You might end up on the tube as gay baby of the year. Goo Goo Gaaa Gaaa Instant Gay Infant Alert. Be careful sucking that passafier too hard. You might end up on the tube as gay baby of the year. Goo Goo Gaaa Gaaa

]]> By: M Shane http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-46066 M Shane Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:21:54 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-46066 The thing is David (above #4) I can see the parent going on and talking about their own sexuality, but not about that of their childrens' unformed proclivities. It would really amount to a form of exploitation not totally unlike sexual abuse, where the child is just not mature enough for something to be in the province of others. especially without the kids permission Your point is taken that it might be nice to point things out to other parents, but it might as easily or even more likely be a set up for abuse of the child as encouragement. I think that whatever the case, it would harm the child,.even if he or she was straight. Sexuality is probably a young personsmost difficult developmental hurdle. The thing is David (above #4) I can see the parent going on and talking about their own sexuality, but not about that of their childrens' unformed proclivities. It would really amount to a form of exploitation not totally unlike sexual abuse, where the child is just not mature enough for something to be in the province of others. especially without the kids permission
Your point is taken that it might be nice to point things out to other parents, but it might as easily or even more likely be a set up for abuse of the child as encouragement. I think that whatever the case, it would harm the child,.even if he or she was straight. Sexuality is probably a young personsmost difficult developmental hurdle.

]]> By: tracy johnson http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-46059 tracy johnson Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:40:11 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-46059 I'm lesbian, so does having that same tutu make me gay? I'm lesbian, so does having that same tutu make me gay?

]]> By: David Hauslaib, Queerty http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-46049 David Hauslaib, Queerty Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:46:50 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-46049 A couple things to consider. 1) It's important that these topics are addressed to the American public. GMA reaches millions of people every day, a vast majority of which probably never consider their child's gender role might be outside the norm. 2) GMA is a TV show. It needs ratings; it needs to make money. But in order to do that, it also has to present its segments visually, and make them compelling. How to do that without having parents and children on air to discuss it? 3) Yes, GMA needs ratings -- so my biggest fear here would that they would exploit this topic and make it sensational. It would be easy to do. That said, GMA, the Today Show, and the other morning shows DO have a track record of treating these topics seriously. 4) You might be quick to blame parents who would sign their kids up for this. They must be the worst parents in the world, right? But what if they've struggled with understanding their children's gender roles, and now feel a responsibility to educate other parents? Is that really something we should criticize them for? 5) In the end, it comes down to the welfare of the children. Are they being exploited, at such a young age, by producers and parents? Perhaps. A couple things to consider.

1) It's important that these topics are addressed to the American public. GMA reaches millions of people every day, a vast majority of which probably never consider their child's gender role might be outside the norm.

2) GMA is a TV show. It needs ratings; it needs to make money. But in order to do that, it also has to present its segments visually, and make them compelling. How to do that without having parents and children on air to discuss it?

3) Yes, GMA needs ratings — so my biggest fear here would that they would exploit this topic and make it sensational. It would be easy to do. That said, GMA, the Today Show, and the other morning shows DO have a track record of treating these topics seriously.

4) You might be quick to blame parents who would sign their kids up for this. They must be the worst parents in the world, right? But what if they've struggled with understanding their children's gender roles, and now feel a responsibility to educate other parents? Is that really something we should criticize them for?

5) In the end, it comes down to the welfare of the children. Are they being exploited, at such a young age, by producers and parents? Perhaps.

]]> By: Michael Aaron http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-46047 Michael Aaron Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:26:13 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-46047 Wow, just as I was entering a comment about their new graphic of a sad-faced silhouetted kid, they pulled the link down. Wow, just as I was entering a comment about their new graphic of a sad-faced silhouetted kid, they pulled the link down.

]]> By: porsha http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-46038 porsha Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:16:56 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-46038 Discusting, but I'm not surprised...ABC should be called on the carpet for such nonsense. GAY IS NOT A CHOISE, dammit! It is an incredibly personal observation. And, if I had a child she/he would NOT be part of a circus freak alley. My compassion is for the kids who have little or no say at that age! Discusting, but I'm not surprised…ABC should be called on the carpet for such nonsense. GAY IS NOT A CHOISE, dammit! It is an incredibly personal observation. And, if I had a child she/he would NOT be part of a circus freak alley. My compassion is for the kids who have little or no say at that age!

]]> By: Mikey http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-46035 Mikey Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:30:50 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-46035 Wow... and in the age of youtube these kids are going to have to live with these video clips forever. Wow… and in the age of youtube these kids are going to have to live with these video clips forever.

]]> By: Qjersey http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-46032 Qjersey Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:16:56 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-46032 feminine boys and masculine girls, the newest media freak show? Guess they ran out of 50 year old men who left their wives after coming out as trans. feminine boys and masculine girls, the newest media freak show?

Guess they ran out of 50 year old men who left their wives after coming out as trans.

]]> By: Mike http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-45993 Mike Sat, 22 Mar 2008 01:50:23 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-45993 Yeah. What will life be like for that kid when he goes back to school? Yeah. What will life be like for that kid when he goes back to school?

]]> By: M Shane http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-45981 M Shane Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:28:18 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-45981 It would be a terrible invasion of any young persons' privacy to be exposed to the prodings of deranged adults-how the fuck would anybody know someones sexuality for sure at ten and besides what kind of parent would make their child into some kind of side show anomoly: lots yes Kind of like the kiddy beauty queens. "oh look at little gay ken -isn't he just the cutest little guy in the world-must be gay: why a little ken doll'' and then he turns out to be straight even tho everyone at school calls him a fag." People get to be called gay or whatever sexual or (?)gendered person when they are ready. It would be a terrible invasion of any young persons' privacy to be exposed to the prodings of deranged adults-how the fuck would anybody know someones sexuality for sure at ten and besides what kind of parent would make their child into some kind of side show anomoly: lots yes Kind of like the kiddy beauty queens. "oh look at little gay ken -isn't he just the cutest little guy in the world-must be gay: why a little ken doll" and then he turns out to be straight even tho everyone at school calls him a fag." People get to be called gay or whatever sexual or (?)gendered person when they are ready.

]]> By: sam http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-45980 sam Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:19:29 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-45980 This reminds me of a skit from Mr. Show, which includes the brilliant line "No gay son of mine isn't gay!" http://youtube.com/watch?v=e5i6BHBuqxE This reminds me of a skit from Mr. Show, which includes the brilliant line "No gay son of mine isn't gay!"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=e5i6BHBuqxE

]]> By: CitizenGeek http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-45966 CitizenGeek Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:21:31 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-45966 What kind of parents would really do that to their child? Oh wait, I forgot that this is in America .... What kind of parents would really do that to their child? Oh wait, I forgot that this is in America ….

]]> By: key http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/comment-page-1/#comment-45959 key Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:01:42 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/gma-seeks-gay-guppies-20080321/#comment-45959 "Gender Variant"?? "Gender Variant"??

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