Well, I’m 52 and I’m single and on some level, I feel like I’ve failed because by the time you’re my age, you really should be settled. But then I look at the relationships people around me have and I find myself asking, ‘Really? That doesn’t look like winning to me. I’ve reached the point that when people ask, ‘Are you single at the moment?’, I say, ‘Come on, you can drop the ‘at the moment’.’ I’m single forever. That’s the weird thing. Gay men my age don’t want to date someone their age.”
— British talk show host Graham Norton in an interview with The Mail (don’t worry, Graham, we think men over 50 are incredibly sexy)
H/t: Attitude
Don Michael
This is a bit simplistic, again. I’m an older man who likes men younger than myself, but I did even when I was 30. That is just the way it is sometimes.
David Berry
There are plenty of younger men who would want him though.
Timothy Grover
I would date men my own age!
John Saich
How sad….
Jim Van Matre
so true
David Red
Very true.
Glücklich
That’s not the best photo of him but I’d date Graham Norton. Date him so hard he’d beg me to stop. He’s not much older than Mr. Glücklich and he cleans up nicely.
Dennis Sandoval
I would say this is 80% true
James Halat
Meaningless sweeping generalization aside, what is so important about dating someone your own age? Wouldn’t you rather find somebody compatible?
John Kuehnle
I have been with more men older than me, 1 in his 20s and it went nowhere. That list is small.
Zio Ledeux
bullshit
Scott Redner
It’s sad because it’s true…
Ralph Vendegna
Graham you got that wrong. I’m 62 and my first date with another guy was September 2002, 13 yrs ago. We found we had the same things in common on the 1st date. We were on the phone talking to each other everynight Mon-Fri while I was working. In 2004 He asked me to move in with him and I did. This Feb 27, 2015 we got married before a Judge and love each other very much. So Graham I know you can do it. Don’t let negativity get you down, we all have gone through that, and I said no more negativity. Get out more cause I know you will find someone special. Right now I am 62 and my husband is 68.
Geoffrey Hall
He’s a multimillionaire celebrity who is constantly in the media. That’s a big deal for anyone… unless you’re a multimillionaire celebrity who is constantly in the media.
Stefan Gahler
I’m 44 and I would date a man who’s older than me any time. I’d date him if he grew his beard back!
Kevin Davis
It’s funny because I’ve seen several people post this interview and the only people who are upset about what he said are old guys who only date guys significantly younger guys than them (which proves his point) and young guys who like being taken care of by older sugar daddies. ie kept men
David Lapierre
I’d date him!
Mike Smith
Yep most men my age are boring drama queens
Tommy Parlon
I would date him in heart beat. So beautiful and intelligent
??????? ?????
Very true especially in less populous areas!
Amaurys Arias
Sadly but true… Look at most of the male celebs in their 40s most are dating someone 5 to 15 year younger… And in the case of Dustin Lance black and Zachary Quinto they get to the very creepy line of dating some one barely legal.
Morgan James
Within ten years is ok. But any younger than that…..what do you have in common? I’m 57, my partner was 9 yrs. younger. He took off with a 19 yr. old after 17 yrs. together. I think it’s Peter Pan syndrome. Some just never grow up.
pjm1
Not sure what Norton’s relationship history is but I have
noticed that some people are perpetually single regardless
of age.
Others are very good at relationships and, even if some are in
their 50s and 60s and became single, they would very likely wind
up in a relationship if they wanted. And yes, i have watched these
patterns. One thing is that you can learn how to have a relationship
and 52 is not so old.
Franklin
But is he wrong? Most of the gay guys I’ve seen online are always looking for younger guys. I think I’ve even seen a youtube video from a gay psychologist who said a frequent complaint he’s heard from older gay men is how they don’t find other men their age attractive.
Mark Engledow
Yeah, It’s true. And, hell, he’s got the celebrity thing going for him, to boot – how many saying they’d date him would date a nobody his age?
Brian
By 52, you should have your own children. Having a son or a daughter validates your life.
With gay-identifying men, this important influence is often missing, and the men continue rolling through the fields of life, picking up men, getting dropped…and eventually realizing that time hasn’t been kind to their faces or bodies. No longer are they desired as much as they used to be.
Curty
@Brian: What do you have a wife and kids?
Edward Peace
I like dating guys younger then me and I’m 25… every young guy in vegas likes there age or older guys some older like younger. When I was 21 I had consent dating a 16 year old for 2 years of being together. People like certain things which everyone is picky. Life can be lonely but I keep to myself now i dont mind til i get on my feet again…
Glücklich
@Brian:
But enough about your problems. What do you think of Graham Norton?
pjm1
@Brian:
You say “No longer are they desired as much as they used to be.”
So, boo hoo, poor me, wah, i am not desired as much. How terrible. NO NOT REALLY.
Those guys need to grow up and see life as a great deal more than being desired,
really, that is not the lense through which to see this life — at least not in my
perhaps, not-as-humble-as-should-be opinion.
@Glücklich: you took my thoughts to print.
Larry H Hayes Jr
Id date him
L Daniel E Kaufman
I would date him cause he’s funny as hell. But its what he is at home that would be the deciding factor.
Desert Boy
What a sad prognosis. All the men out there who are 40, 50 and 60, come on guys, stop pining for an 18 year old and date someone your own age. Life is too long to live alone.
Tom Gouzoules
AND…being single is good. It is what you want to make of the situation. Was in 2 relationships and they were fun but I prefer being single. I can be alone and not feel lonely…
James Wilbanks
You are as funny as hell !! I would date you !!
Robert Parman
Wrong!!! His remarks are about expectations. I’m sure, unrealistic ones! Poor Graham, he’s missing so much!!
Darryl Williams
Sounds about right to me…
Jon Kryander
I feel your pain Graham….and single is not good if it is not what you want….OK for some…but not all of us!!
Bigstick
Wow. Wow. That’s really a serious load of crap. I am 48years old and I am partnered with a man my age. If I was single I would only want someone my age. I find young men utterly uninteresting. Those of us who lived through the 80s and the 90s…you are my people…and I’m proud of us and I love us for our beauty, sexiness and humanity. Gay men over 45 are an extraordinary and beautiful tribe. The young should be left to revel in all WE created for them and to revel in each other. Us older dudes are on a different plane
sportsguy1983
People who date someone 10 years or more younger than themselves really need to grow up.
Bigstick
No one “should” do anything they don’t want to do. And raising children is only one way of validating an adult’s life. You have picked your path. But it isn’t a better path than anyone else’s. It is only better for you. Many of us left worrying excessively about desirability behind in our 20s. We found different paths to satisfaction and our own ways to participate in something larger than ourselves. So watch the sanctimony and here’s a tip: your focus “should” be on helping your children find paths to the validation of their lives. Continuing to broadcast your holier than thou perception of yourself b/c you have kids only serves to make one feel that you need to adjust your priorities. And, you know, that kind of Schlafly-esque sneering is really dated and a total turn-off.
Eugene Schnitger
I date you, Graham…
youarekiddingme
@sportsguy1983: I dated someone 11 YEARS YOUNGER than me…I think I was grown up. Oh, btw, we have been together for 24 years (and just got married when it became legal this past June)!
So much for the generalization of 10 years or more huh?
Brian Markee
To thine own self be true. But when you discover that you no longer feel lonely being single and just enjoy life, alone. It’s not that important anymore, for some of us, at any age.
James Moya
honestly who cares. Age is just a number. You can be attracted to anyone for any number of reasons. Being single is fine too. It is less stressful most of the time. If you get lonely, adopt a dog.
Uppity
Say what you like about Graham Norton, but he is one of the few middle-aged gay men to publicly speak the truth about this syndrome.
Glücklich
@sportsguy1983:
Pretty broad brush, there. My husband’s twelve years older than I. Together five years, married for a year and half. Nothing Peter Pan about him.
Jose R Negron
That has little do with being Gay and a lot with being a man period. Hetero men are no better.
Glücklich
@Tom Gouzoules:
I’m with you. I’m 36 and married now but was totally fine on my own from aged 23-26. I did everything anyone in a relationship would have done. Never understood the hang-up some people have about dining alone in a restaurant (took a book), vacationing alone, shows (movie, concert, whatever) alone. The only thing I didn’t do and wanted to was go on a cruise. Even now my husband and I spend a lot of time out of each other’s company.
Bela Szentpeteri
If someone is sexy does not matter the age, gay people are number fetishists… wage, age, long, short , big , small… shameless (the most of them) attraction has no measurement
Glenn Cheatham
It’s true for all of us who aren’t some 25 year old twink!!!!!!!!
Adrian Lehman-Sizemore
and i would date him any time
James Yeary
in the homosexual world you are considered ancient after the age of 26 …..
Frankie Trice
He is right. I’ll be dying lonely for sure because I wasted my time on a guy 14 years younger than me, who kicked me to the curb when I had paid for his education, and he ended up with a 6-figure salary. Youngers are only looking for sugar daddies–don’t be fooled!
Rudy Labsilica
I tried to date guys around my age range, but they act like whorish 20 yr olds or they’re more boring and bitter than I am, lol!
So why even bother?
Younger guys, from my experienced, are more spontaneous and open minded, and not as jaded. So who could blame us for dating somebody younger( and by younger, I mean 25 and above, lol!)?
Craig Ottinger
I would date this dude.
William Perri
What Graham says is true – unfortunately !
Michael Martinez
He never asked me on a date. I would say yes, assuming he shaves that dead animal off his face.
Tommy Ogletree
Not me. I prefer someone my own age.
Patrick Arwood
I would date the hell outta Graham Norton, if I weren’t married…
Nick Marriott
Graham……I would happily fall in love with you!Come down under(you know what I mean….wink!……wink!)and you can feed me your beautiful Irish sausage.
Eric Boelema
He is quite right!
Stephen Mole
We’re both 56 and have been together 23 years. Same age works for us.
Michael Arwood
I would almost date him
tusgold
I am so guilty of that my husband is 14 years younger my bf is 25 I am 57. You only live once and if you do it right once is enough
David Chachki
Us young guys dont wanna date you either so i guess your fucked lol.
Michael Demeule-Calella
they call that mid life crisis..yes gay men get it too.
Billy Sims
Id date people his age im 43 this yr and would love a partner id prefer my age and older amyway
tusgold
I knew the deal and by 30 I was looking to settle down while all these hotties would flit from on relationship. I met my husband when I was 33 and he was 19 he was a keeper and 28 years later we are still together. I knew once you hit about 15 your shelf expired. Then you see these one time hottiess at the end of the bar and are just drunks. My husband is 15 years younger, my bf is 32 years younger. What thee hotties didnt undertand is you have to build relationship experience. You just don’t turn 35 and after about 15 years of 3 week relationships you think you can just adapt to a LTR. You really need to build relationship skills like knowing when to de-escalate an argument or how to handle a cheaating husband. I was always having another bf and one time I had 2 I came from work and my lover had all his shit packed and informed me that if I couldnt suffice with one side bf hes gone. He said pick one or you get them both. On the phone in 5 minutes and have kept it at just 1 bf.
tusgold
Im 57 my bf is 25. Its the daddy took off when he was young and he needs a strong man in his life. Im his father, best friend and boyfriend. It is just fantastic I had to train him hhe had some rough edges and we are now monogamous sorta. I have a huusband who is 44 and I am 57. I had to teach the boy a few things he stole some shit but I kknew he was trainable. The hubby usually likes my bfs and naturally he will get them alone and get his piece of the pie. He slept with all 11 boyfriends I hhave had over our 28 year relationship. The new one he hasn’t got to yet and I told him take one for the team and had a long long talk. he’s no bar slut and he just was not buying into this. I finally convinced him that no he wasnt being a slut. He still counts the guys he slept with I’m 12 and my gorgeous hubby will no doubt be 13. I love this kid and want him as a keeper. Believe me getting fucked by my hubby isnt punishment. At 57 this is my last bf Im keeping he is number 10. Some of my boyfriends actually ended up not really minding, but we never would a 3 way I forbid it. A couple lived with us and had to throw one out for trying to break up me and my hubby, thats forbidden. I bounced his ass out. So he calls my hubby and said I just thought I’d let you know who your lover is sleeping with and he said well up until today you and hung up. HA HA
DarkZephyr
A lot of guys are saying “bullshit” and denying it and hilariously even some who are admittedly “into younger guys” are denying it but its at least 80% true as one poster said.
@tusgold: Wait, you have a husband AND a “side boyfriend”? And your husband is fine with that, he just got mad when you kicked it up to two side boyfriends? LOL Well at least you all are happy! lol Glad it works for you, if I tried having even ONE side boyfriend, MY man’s shit would be packed and I would be out the love of my life. lol
tusgold
Im 57 my bf is 25. Its the daddy took off when he was young and he needs a strong man in his life. Im his father, best friend and boyfriend. It is just fantastic I had to train him hhe had some rough edges and we are now monogamous sorta. I have a huusband who is 44 and I am 57. I had to teach the boy a few things he stole some shit but I kknew he was trainable. The hubby usually likes my bfs and naturally he will get them alone and get his piece of the pie. He slept with all 11 boyfriends I hhave had over our 28 year relationship. The new one he hasn’t got to yet and I told him take one for the team and had a long long talk. he’s no bar slut and he just was not buying into this. I finally convinced him that no he wasnt being a slut. I had to explain I loved him and wanted to be with him as much as possible and well he had to mke a sacrifice. My husband is very good looking he looks like hes 28 and I am sure my boy will manage to get some pleasure. But I make it clear he is mine and the hubby knows no bf for him.He still counts the guys he slept with I’m 12 and my gorgeous hubby will no doubt be 13. I love this kid and want him as a keeper. Believe me getting fucked by my hubby isnt punishment. At 57 this is my last bf Im keeping he is number 12. Some of my boyfriends actually ended up not really minding, but we never would a 3 way I forbid it. A couple lived with us and had to throw one out for trying to break up me and my hubby up, thats forbidden. I bounced his ass out. So he calls my hubby and said I just thought I’d let you know who your lover is sleeping with and he said well up until today you and hung up. HA HA
Tom Luke
Not true for me
Carlos Rodriguez
I would date you papacito.
Robert Tasseff Mitrevski
That is so wrong, would only date someone around my own than be a desperate sugar daddy. Love being 43 years of age.
Atrius
He’s funny and adorable. I’ll take him in a second.
Allen D.
@tusgold: That is probably the grossest post I’ve ever read on here. You feel parental towards this kid, but you have sex with him. That is just pedophilia. That poor kid, and your poor husband for putting up with it.
dexdexter
It’s a very serious problem out there. Gay is normal but one who is getting 15 or more years outside of his age range, saying he only relates to younger guys etc is a sick person to be avoided at all costs.
If age 55 on dating side, put up seeking 50-60. If you want to go in a larger yet still normal range say 45-65 but if you find that you cannot date as many years older than you can younger, you don’t love or feel love. You are self obsessed, horny & looking for sex that you just are not going to find since most younger guys are not turned on by some old man who looks like the Pope. Easy solution is date own age or just don’t date. Goes for all age. This topic is very serious. A sad topic too since millions end alone over this.
Marshall R. Krug
so true. i guess there’s always hope.
Nick Marriott
So! Gra’ Gra’…….’haven’t heard back from you yet?…….am I too old for you?
Corey Krantz
He’s looking in the wrong places.
Daggerman
..for crying out loud Mr. Norton–you have NOT failed. If there are men and woman in this world that remain left on the shelf then so be it! Maybe there’s a good reason? Don’t keep beating yourself up over it! It just might be because you have high standards.
Mike Melis
Unfortunate since I only want to date men my age and I know it’s a pretty rare thing… Everyone wants younger??? Why?
Iestyn West
i wouldn’t date this vile hag if he was 20
tdh1980
Based on the numerous profiles across which I’ve come on gay dating apps and websites, I can’t say I disagree with Norton, even if the evidence is more anecdotal than scientific. Men well into their 40s, 50s, and sometimes 60s often times only seek those in the 18-30s range with my age of only 35 being too old for many of them.
Rachel Leonardo
Neither do women! Duh!
Bigstick
There is a big difference between looking to sleep with someone and looking to date someone. Sleep with whoever you want. But get used to being single and quit complaining about it if you are looking to couple up with someone more than 10 years your junior. It can work, but the odds are against it. I’m sorry, but why anyone would want a younger partner is beyond me. Casual sex partner? Yes. Whatever. Life partner? No way. And by the way, dating someone young, isn’t going to make you feel young. It will make you feel older. Stop self-hating. Aging is awesome and older men have a lot more wisdom, experience, and stability to offer.
Adrian Paul Annas
I have seen the behaviour of the whole age spectrum. It’s not pretty from any angle.
blackberry finn
I get satisfaction from seeing others having great relationships, whatever their age range or age combination. Although permanently single myself, I don’t look upon happy couples with envy, but with appreciation. I’d be truly depressed if others had to be celibate like me. That’s one way to make peace with your situation.
Glücklich
@Allen D.:
The guy’s probably creating some sort of alcohol-induced fantasy life where he’s living in Thailand surrounded by lady-boys who think all white foreigners are wealthy. Those typos reek of Gordon’s vodka and the DT’s.
Glücklich
@David Chachki:
Should be “*We* young guys…”
Jason Xanthopoulos
What he means is that dudes his age for the most part are boring drones completely embittered by the work-a-day life they’ve bought into and are sexless/nymphmaniacal Grindr-bots who have no interests beyond what is on the other end of their wifi signal…and he wouldn’t date THEM.
Victor Barry
He’s 100% correct. Men my age that have not gone to seed only want to date youngsters. Only men who want to date me are youngster who want my money. Gay sucks bad sometimes.
NoCagada
Yeah, because all older straight men date only women their own age…
Mark Hesselgrave
Well, it’s true. The majority of men, straight or gay, want young. They will usually need $$$ to make that happen.
Dennis Soper
I’m 58 and I’d like to date guys my age. They just seem to get all bent out of shape that a) I describe myself as a queer anarchist and b) I’m a musician (and it seems to matter very little that I have a very good day job).
Bisexual-Transwoman
It’s true. A lot of older gay and bisexual men want younger partners.
TampaBayTed
Right on Graham. But this has been going on for eternity. Even the “daddy” sites have the “in-shape” daddies looking for ages 18-35 when most of them are 20 to 30 years older than their sought after dates. Must be an ego thing.
Hugo Ferreira
age is just a number as long as ur not dating a 15-16 years old
oldman57
It is true, with me though is like all the guys my age with my frame of thought………well they’re my best friends…….and we already did each other when we were younger………so there in turn is our curse……I would gladly date someone my age but like me they’re not interested or think I’m not interested……..somewhere we failed to communicate…………oh FYI our straight counterparts not different at all…….same as us……..
Maude
Hey, all you sad sacks out there….Have you never heard of ‘friends with benefits’?
We have a clique of ‘friends’ where I live. If you keep yourself in good shape,you may get a phone call.,,,but if you let yourself go……maybe not.
These days it isn’t very hard to find a date, no matter your age. Start looking in the personals in the local paper…you may be surprised. Good Luck!
Doughosier
I guess it’s true. I’m the same age as Graham and not into guys my age. For friendship yes, but not romance. I have had a great boy friend for nearly 4 years. He’s 27 and we get along great. Go for what you like.
Kris McCleery
It’s kinda true …
Tobi
Aw, Graham, just treat yourself to a lovely 16-year-old sugarcub. 🙂
Stephen Ryan
Graham Norton is NOT British. He’s Irish!!
kevininbuffalo
@Jose R Negron: I agree, it is a guy thing. Lots of straight guys are attracted to younger women. How many times have we heard of the guy who dumps the “old lady” for a newer, sportier model? happens all the time.
orfunnyhaha
@Michael Demeule-Calella: If you live to be 104.
Ray Sandoval
RODZILLA!!!
CINTI_JACK
I think there are many men who date men in their 50’s; many not most. Really wish dating websites would simply only show me men interested who dating men my age, race, etc. Not interested in finding out why someone only dates black guys, young guys, etc – just don’t need to even see them.
The world is rife with chicken hawks – get used to it. I, too had to deal with their break from reality when I was young. Don’t bother dissuading them – just keep evading them.
Gene Upshaw
I can relate.
John Burnett
Graham you’re right on the mark! I’m 56 years old and the only thing interested me is 26, 27-year-olds! Would love somebody around my age!
DamianHart
I don’t know if I am interpreting what he’s saying properly, so I’ll just take a stab. Meanwhile, I’ll say that this is how *I* feel as a gay man of 52 myself. Most of us (of that age) grew up when it was very likely that we would be beaten up or worse if we came out–or were even suspected–as gay. Therefore it was *extremely* unlikely (particularly in less-than-metropolitan areas) to find anyone of *your age* (at the time) to date. And, of course, everyone wants to date (or at least have a few good flings with) the younger, hard-bodies. Now, suddenly, we’re middle-aged and thanks to tireless efforts we’re more open and free to be gay. But now that we *can* date, all those young, hard bodies we grew up wanting to experience—have somehow ended up being 25+ years younger than us! And (as much as I want to adore men “my age,”) most of them (to be as sweet as I can) have let themselves go and don’t exactly have *it*. I know I’ll get pilloried, but I’m ready to take it. (hehe) So I don’t think he’s necessarily being shallow, he’s just saying that now that we can have “it” ….. it doesn’t want us. For the most part.
Russ Carpenter
Im 54, love to find someone that likes the things i like. Just go slow, dont jump into a relationship because everyone says “its time”. Hell enjoy life and if someone comes along even better.
silveroracle
You said people your age don’t want to date people your age? Really?
How wrong you are Graham.
I am 51 and prefer to date people around the same age.
We don’t all like somebody younger.
That is just stereotyping gay men. I prefer to date a man around the same age.
We don’t all like somebody younger.
That is just stereotyping gay men.
silveroracle
Oops. Sorry for repeating myself at the end there.
Must be something that comes with age.
Oh there I go again stereo typing.
Ronnyboy
@Doughosier:I hear what your saying. The guy I’m seeing is 24. I’m 57 right now. We’ve been together for 4 years. Got married two years ago. Anyways, I would never think of being with someone my around my age. Complete revulsion as doing a women.
I’m helping him through school and taking him to Europe twice a year. I love to travel and he loves it too. I tell people that criticize our relationship to kiss my ass. Besides he’s smoking hot and I get to have sex with with hot 24 year old every night. What do you got? Most men who are in our position would be doing the same damn thing if they could.
Ronnyboy
@DamianHart: If you want it bad enough it will happen. Trust me there are allot of young guys out there to have.
WayDifferent
No, in my mid to late 40s I didn’t care to date guys my age either. I have no desire for those that can’t get past Cher or Madonna at the ripe age of 45 and only have a wardrobe consisting of t-shirts with cartoon characters or some other silly sayings on them. As I heard a black woman say “If he doesn’t have at east one non-Tshirt, we ain’t going anywhere”. Agreed.
I did have one short fling with a daddy hunter that vented his disgust with his obvious last daddy in that he “thought he was trying to hold on to every last ounce of his youth”. I told him he thought 100% correct. It was fun but I’m really not into the kids either.
In my TWENTIES I dated professional, MEN that actually had adult taste in music and clothing and weren’t trying to outwit everyone with their silliness and Peter Pan Syndrome wherever we went. Times have changed though.
I can only speak for Chicago in this age range. I have returned to my homestate permanently and could give it another shot but am truly no longer interested. No, I’m not “jaded”. After all that I truly believe I’m now asexual.
WayDifferent
@Frankie Trice: Fuck ’em and dump ’em. Hey, those kiddos are fun for a romp or two but I was wise enough to never let it go any further. Some of these older guys truly need help if they’re that lonely and/or insecure.
Thom Spillman
I would date graham in a second.
WayDifferent
@Frankie Trice: There have been vicious, brutal murders over these arrangements in Chicago. This stuff doesn’t hit the MSM but the younger “cute” one hooking up with the supposed celebrity fashion designer that no one had ever heard of that sold a hat or something to Oprah and was twice his age resulted in 16 fatal stab wounds.
Phil Kenyon
That’s what they tell him so he’ll go away
Travis
Graham makes an excellent point and an observation that many don’t take enough time to really think about. Men his age are generally not dating in the same age or even the same decade or two. It’s true, every person has a different set of interests and some simply like people who are younger or older than they are. I get that. But the other aspect to consider is the psychological one. Most of the men Graham’s age were not (as) free to be who they are like us young people are today. I think in many ways they could simply be trying to recapture the time they lost when they were younger; the trendy clubs, younger bodies, etc. On that level, I understand why it might be happening but that does NOT mean I condone it. 57 dating 24? It’s unacceptable plain and simple for so many different reasons. If you can relate to someone THAT much younger, something. is. wrong. Again, it’s most likely related to the psychological aspect as previously discussed. Not to mention, it really thins out the dating pool for someone just like Graham.
Travis
@silveroracle: There’s a difference between a stereotype and the truth, sir. I have to agree with Graham on this that it truly is a happening trend that, unfortunately, is gaining more and more acceptance today.
cabe
The problem w/ older straight and gay men is that they want someone much younger. While the sex may be hot for a while with young guy it usually doesn’t lend itself to a long term relationship.
Also, young guys typically are only w/ older men for either money or they have some fetishistic daddy issues
cabe
@Ronnyboy:@Ronnyboy: Doesnt it sound odd to you that you are paying for his school? Be honest, why would a 24 yer old be with ha 57 yer old? Money/security or they have daddy issues. I’m not trying to be bitchy its just sad to see guys being taken advantage of.Think of it – you were 33 yrs old when he was born!
RomanHans
I call B.S. I ran into Mr. Norton a couple of years ago and he was with a guy half his age. So when he says gay men don’t want to date anyobe their own age, he means HE doesn’t want to date anyone his own age.
Chris Tex August
onthemark
I wonder how many gay guys his own age Graham even knows? Does he never encounter ANYONE over 45 or so who dates age-appropriately? Is this a show biz thing that he’s extrapolating to the entire gay male population?
Most wealthy celebrities seem not to whine about such things, anyway. They just spend some money on a young one and deal with the alimony a decade down the road – jeez, even Liberace managed to figure out that concept, and he wasn’t the brightest bulb.
Ken Martin
Poor Graham! It’ll happen, mate. Just give it time. It will happen when you least expect it. That’s how it went for me.
Glücklich
@Ken Martin:
Same. I sure as shit never planned on marrying; I just happened to be introduced to the right guy for me and (surprise surprise) I turned out to be the right guy for Mr. Glücklich. It’s an unconventional relationship to be sure but it works for us.
Stop *looking* for partners with LTR potential. That’s when the good ones appear.
Bauhaus
It could be that gay men his age don’t *want* to date men his age, but even if that’s the case, I’ve noticed the men around my age (48) do happen to date or are partnered with men around the same age. That’s been my observation. I’m over a decade younger than my husband and have always liked older (I pursued them) but I wouldn’t consider myself to be like most in that respect.
notevenwrong
In my early thirties I liked older guys.
Now I mostly like younger (by which I mean 30-something) guys because nobody over 40 in my city isn’t fat. And I am in great shape so they tend to like me back.
I would totally date someone my own age who is in shape, but it seems they all went away to live in NYC.
notevenwrong
@cabe, lots of youngsters throw themselves at muscular older tops (especially) because they find them hot, not because of the money. I should know, since I don’t have any money 🙂
Bauhaus
@Bauhaus:
Norton with a silver beard is a go!
Ronnyboy
@notevenwrong: I’m very open minded in guys I like. Just nothing over 30. I don’t know why I’m only into young guys. Newness, toned bods, SEX, whatever. I love them and thankfully I have one that loves me back.
To the asshole above. There’s nothing wrong with helping young guys out in life. Call it a barter system. Isn’t that what all relationships are based on anyways. Food for thought.
john.k
Some people here are very dogmatic about what are appropriate age gaps. I’m 38 years older than my boyfriend. As we’ve been together for over 9 years now something about our relationship must be working. Maybe it’s that we love one another. A 30 something friend said of our age gap -“if someone had told me of a couple with that big an age gap I’d have thought it weird but knowing the two of you it doesn’t seem weird at all”.
JerseyMike
I sorry but I have no interest in a guy under forty..younger guys are cute to look at or a quick screw but that’s as far as it goes for me.. I will be fifty next year and I don’t care to date younger guys. As I tell my friends.. I will not date a man unless he has at least one gray hair on his balls.. Don’t get me wrong I will not date a man just because he is old. I workout five days a wk. Yes I am still very vain about my appearance. Just because you get older don’t mean you stop working out and being your best. I like men my age because I find the intimacy better, they can afford to travel, more settled with career and life. I have done the bar seen. Over it. Funny thing is I have young guys coming to me.. I had this one young guy tell me “you will Fk me but you want date me”. I was thinking pretty much. I didn’t feel bad because I told him upfront it was only a hookup.. Its funny how most young guys think older men want them because they are young.. LMAO..
JerseyMike
@notevenwrong: EXACTLY!!
Guy068
@James Halat: If you take it too far (as is easy when you’re in your Fifties) you have absolutely no commonality and nothing to talk about out of bed. That’s why my rule is no more than fifteen years younger, tho’ to be honest I think I might have hit the forever single stage too.
KG
He is probably right I don’t think that is really his issue though. I think it is celebrity.
Anyone with wealth wonders if it is just for the money or popularity.
I don’t know, maybe he just wants to be single. Which is fine.