We may not like to talk about it, but virtually all of us have experience with adult entertainment, and the fact that it’s so readily available, for free, means that exploring sexual fantasies are always just a few clicks away.
But we also love to shame sex in our culture, and this imbalance can lead to some awfully complicated relationships to porn.
Below, hear from guys on Whisper as they lay it all out:
Nick Marriott
Here it is guys….modern porn is as boring as all fuck,so we haveto seek kind of a,’twist’,in our viewing habits(like straight or bi or ambiguous sex)to make it more exciting.Get a hold of 70s porn,if you can.There is one title,’Too big for his Britches’,that won every erotic film industry award and one director,J.D.Cadinot,that produced super high quality porn in the late 70s and early 80s(not his later shit)that will truly get you hard…..but hard to find!…….this stuff is porn exstacy!…..just sayin’.
bottom250
I enjoy porn a lot and enjoy pleasing myself.
Brian
Porn is prostitution with a camera in front of it. It is NOT sex. Repeat, it is NOT sex.
Don’t labor under the illusion that the performers are doing it because they are free spirits. Free spirits, my foot. They’re doing it because they are being paid for it.
Sure, the performers might look gorgeous. But their spirits are ill. What you don’t see on the screen is the addictions to various substances which causes them to seek the profession of porn.
Glücklich
What’s complicated? Need a release, look up some inspiring material, rub one out.
The guy with the last whisper should *legit* go back to Hooked on Phonics.
Lvng1Tor
@Brian: “But their spirits are ill.” OK, Brother Brian. What would you say about anonymous people who make wide spread judgmental generalizations about people in comments sections?
Come on…stop over thinking everything people. Like alcohol or food…the majority of people have no problem consuming it (or preparing it!) those who do, need to take it seriously and get help. Those of us who don’t have problems with it should be supportive of those who do but shouldn’t be expected to starve for them.
RIGay
I liked porn when I was single; that was my entertainment. I use to enjoy endlessly watching and fantasizing over some Jeff Stryker or Ryan Idol flick. But being in a relationship (and now married) for the past 17 years… watching porn is just plain boring. I’d rather be having sex with my husband. I find the gay sub-plots of “Game of Thrones” more arousing than what I got in the DVD and VHS porn collection.
enfilmigult
@Brian: To what sentient being over the age of twelve do you think any of that would be a surprise? Golly, porn performers didn’t just get into it because they love to have sex all the time? They’re doing it for MONEY? It’s sex work, so some of them aren’t having great lives off camera? Oh my!
ruffian
I have a long relationship with porn but find less and less of the recent stuff turns me on. I’m sick of all the trimmed and shaved off bush, doesn’t do it for me or any of my friends when we discuss it!
JaredNorthcutt30
Feels bad for the objectified female, but not the male. Got it.
RIGay
@ruffian: I agree, Ruffian — the old stuff is much hotter!
Desert Boy
Porn is so readily available on the web that it really isn’t as exciting as it once was, say, eight or ten years ago. It’s strange. Maybe watching porn frequently sort of de-sexualizes us? I don’t really know. What I do is, I haven’t watched porn once in 2015. I’m lucky — I have a husband and real sex is much better than virtual sex.
Arcamenel
I watch port but lately it’s been kind of me
I really hate how gay port insist on pushing the gay-for-pay stuff too. Is it that hard to find attractive gay men who actually enjoy gay sex to put in porn? These straight guys are so limited in what they’ll do and then do interviews about how much they hate doing what they will do.
Arcamenel
Wow typing on mobile sucks. Porn* meh*
Bob LaBlah
This is a painfully obvious commercial for Whisper more than an article for discussion regarding the topic it came with.
Glücklich
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9xBAtCsCTQ
Glücklich
@ruffian:
@RIGay:
Two words: Joe Gage
Marky
I hate being this person, but you may want to change the “To” in the article title to a “With”… The email button wasn’t giving me an email address–just a url–so I figured I’d post it in the comments section. Yeah I’m one of those people. 😐
enlightenone
Porn, that is really just video sex work since the fantasy of it has been lost over the past 10 years or more. In addition, there is the silly interviewer trying to give the illusion of “straight” and “first time” when you can see a first time scene of a performer in his 100 scene as a bottom having professed he’s “straight” on another site who also labels him “exclusive” though the value of that is lost on me!
Brian
99% of guy-guy scenes in porn are segregated away from heterosexual scenes. 99% of girl-girl scenes are included with heterosexual scenes. This double standard perfectly shows what porn is really all about – i.e. discrimination.
Brian
Since the 60’s, there’s been a concerted campaign by liberals to make bisexuality socially acceptable for women but not for men.
You can see this in the way female bisexuality has been promoted and glamorized by aspects of the media. From Playboy to explicit porn, from the music industry to the movie industry, bisexuality in women has been elevated, usually by men but also by women. The same people who promote female bisexuality are usually quite silent on male bisexuality.
I call this the bisexual double standard. It’s a fascinating and critical aspect of understanding the phoniness and complete fakeness of the sexual revolution. My premise is that the sexual revolution – rather than being an intellectual movement – was based on enhancing the concept of the “fantasy woman” for the benefit of the sleazy heterosexual male. The bisexual double standard proves it.
Sadly, women have gone along with it. This has happened because women, no matter how liberated they are, always measure themselves by how well they have aligned with the expectations and fantasies of men. The only women who don’t do this are the butch lesbians.
Thumbs down to the sexual revolution – it was a complete fake.
GusBlogging
I more and more feel that I am less attracted to the hot guys in the porn (because there are so many hot guys and that seriously isn’t as exciting to watch anymore) but rather to a good story. Which makes it even more important to produce high quality “adult movies” 🙂
Gus from http://www.gus-guyblog.com
Stache99
@GusBlogging: Wuah…what? Isn’t having too many hot guys a good thing? Lol
Saint Law
@Brian: “Thumbs down to the sexual revolution – it was a complete fake.”
I.e. nobody wanted to sleep with you. So no change there then.
southpaugh
@Brian: That set of statements is pure, unadulterated bullshit by someone who hasn’t a clue about that over which he’s pontificating. I used to produce, shoot and edit porn in the 80’s for the likes of Falcon Studios, Terry LaGrange. LeSalon, the Mitchell Brothers, a lot with JBrian, and even did a little bit of work with Treasure Island Media as late as the year 2000. The participants in gay male porn run the entire gamut of motivation. Many times with JBrian and Treasure Island, the guys in the film are actual lovers and FWBs who are doing it just like that anyway, documentary style or are inspired by the camera, and, oh, yeah, they’re getting paid, too! Woo Hoo! Most of the guys on cam with Falcon were call boys, but many weren’t. Sometimes some interested party on the film crew caught the director’s eye and were enlisted to play a scene just for the hell of it. You really have no clue what you’re talking about, and your hostility is a direct reflection of you and your twisted fantasy of the illusions presented in the frame of those salacious pornographic images. You poor, naive, self-deluded rube.
Brian
If one gets paid for performing a sexualized act, one is a prostitute. Simple as that. Don’t like what I’m saying? Tough.
Oh, and how many of those “liberated” male porn performers are no longer with us due to substance abuse or illness acquired through promiscuity?
Joe
I agree…Today’s porn is boring as hell and the same thing over and over.
Try watching 70’s porn- “Boys In The Sand” a classic. The porn was better, the men were hotter with hot bodies,’staches, hairy chests, looked liked real men, not like twinks.
Cam
@Brian:
Brian, the folks down at the LDS singles ward called, they want to know if you can bring cookies AND punch.
DarkZephyr
LOL I guess the guy who “feels bad for the girl being objectified” while watching straight porn ISN’T “objectifying” the male in the scene. Not. LOL
And the dude who watches gay porn to find out what to do…hmmm. Not sure that is a good idea. Then again that is how I learned what to do as a youngster when giving blow jobs so maybe he’s onto something. Just so long as he isn’t watching Sean Cody porn or porn similar to it as his learning tool. The positions those guys get into are nuts.
DarkZephyr
@Joe: I like the hairy bodies but I could never stand the porn ‘staches. They looked like fat hairy caterpillars on their upper lips. And that loud grating music that plays instead of the actual sex sounds always makes my head ache. My favorite old school porn is 80s porn. The porn staches are largely gone but the men are still un-manscaped and its still hot as heck compared to today’s “two dudes sitting on a couch or hotel bed getting interviewed and then fucking after claiming to be straight” porn.
bicurious
It is so fascinating to read such puritan comments coming from gays. My personal experiences had led me to expect a higher level of sophistication of gays when it comes to issues of sexuality but then I’ve always lived in cosmopolitan coastal cities where I associate with people with high levels of education. I’m wondering if these conservative views are coming from gays who live in the south and midwest……?
enlightenone
@DarkZephyr: “…today’s “two dudes sitting on a couch or hotel bed getting interviewed and then fucking after claiming to be straight” porn….”
Exactly! I just have to wonder if all this “I’m straight” and taking it up the butt FOR THE FIRST TIME ON VIDEO, is actually catering to so called “straight” guys who want “gay” benefits or is it a “straight” fetish thing????
ANYONE CAN COMMENT!!!!!
Pete
Kids, gay and straight, are watching porn at an earlier and earlier age, and are becoming active earlier as a result, which I don’t think is a good thing. Obviously in a straight setting the result can be catastrophic: no fifteen or sixteen year old woman should be presented with the Hobson’s Choice of pregnancy or termination. Each will scar her for life.
For us guys, the issues aren’t quite so dire. However a lot of hot-to-trot teens who have been watching porn throughout puberty expect their first experiences to be just like a porno. Suffice it to say they’re in for a rude awakening. For starters, it rarely ‘just goes in’, especially the first few times. Also, there are certain intimate hygiene issues that don’t get addressed in porn. While teens buying rubbers are common enough these days (many high-schools give them out, in fact), imagine how awkward it would be to go into a drug store to by a Fleet enema?
Pete
@Brian: First, rather that the either/or of bisexuality, I think women are more sexually fluid than men. ‘Lesbian chic’ predates Hef and the Playboy mansion by at least several centuries. A lot of women who dabble do so because they know it turns men on. Thus ‘putting on a show’ is actually crypto-hetero. While there are a few, I think most women aren’t turned-on by watching two men have sex, which accounts for why there isn’t an equivalent ‘gay-chic’ (sexually, at least)
JaredNorthcutt30
@bicurious I have a high level of education and associate with high levels of education. Eat my cooch, honey.
Rick
Oh dear god. You’d think we were trying to organize an economic summit or Middle Eastern peace talks. It’s porn for fuck’s sake (literally). It’s there to either enjoy or ignore. I don’t get all the over-analyzation.
paul dorian lord fredine
imagining the girl in straight porn is a very feminine twink bottom…..with big tits and a vagina. yeah, that works. and for the one who gets sad because bitv reminds him of the relationship he doesn’t have: sex does not equal a relationship, except for the few hours (if you’re lucky) before he gets up and goes home. get real. sometimes it’s just sex. enjoy it and move one, even if you’re just using your hand.
BruceP
I asked several porn stars on Twitter if they ever had sex again privately with anyone they had previously done a scene with. The only person who replied was Seamus O’Reilly. My Question: “Have you ever gotten together with a scene partner after a shoot? Often wondered.” Seamus replied, “Yes, I have, many of the guys are really cool.”
blkluvla
@Brian: And your point is?
blkluvla
@Glücklich: I don’t get what’s complicated either. In fact it’s one of the most uncomplicated things around
Brian
@Pete: Lesbian chic is code for female prostitution. Please don’t confuse female prostitution with genuine homosexuality in women or men. Lesbian-chic-as-female-prostitution is NOT indicative of a fluid sexuality but of a desire to obtain a reward. BIG difference.
In fact, lesbian chic as depicted in porn is very anti-homosexual because it panders to the type of male viewer who says “ewww, gross, disgusting” when he sees two men kissing. This type of male viewer is hardly likely to vote in favor of gay rights.
We don’t like lesbian chic, we don’t like fake bisexuality in women, and we don’t like the “straight” porn industry for promoting it. Is that clear enough?
Jim McHardy
Porn is porn and I think it is normal to have fantasits about it. I think it is great that gay guys can watch and feel comfortable about themselves. The reality is to find a suitable partner and participate in your own fantasy. Porn now is over rated in most cases reality is better
mantecamikeofca
Way back in the ’80s I dated a gay porn star. Dean Johnson of Falcon, his real name was Mark. He did the porn for money. No surprise there. But when he was with me he was one of the sweetest, most sexually giving men I’d ever been with. We did all the same things other dating couples do, food, movies, going out clubbing/dancing. The Stud and the IBeam in SF were our favorite places. Everyone is an individual and deserves to be treated that way.
enlightenone
@mantecamikeofca: “Way back in the ’80s I dated a gay porn star…”
So you dated a prostitute who you can see being screwed by many strange males on a movie screen with thousands of other men seeing him take semen in his mouth, ass, on his face, close-up of his anus while millions of men jack-off. Which you rationalized was no different than what you do for free in alleys, bushes, etc.
That was your choice to accept or reject him. It would be a turn-off for me because I see sex and my body not a consumer product to be used as an object for someone else’s release and then disposed of like a used tissue and my partner to value his body and sexuality the same, but that just me; and being a gay PERSON doesn’t make me think otherwise.
A priest wanted to “date” me and have sex! I rejected him.
It’s about self-respect, personal morals, and values, as well as who I am SEEN BY OTHERS!!!!!!!!!!
“Everyone is an individual and deserves to be treated that way.” So perhaps you had his permission to give his real name. I could be wrong, but if you are just doing porn “for the money” they have a fake name for a reason, or at least in those days when porn performers weren’t as full of themselves as these KIDS are today!
Stache99
@enlightenone: You might want to read this again..”Everyone is an individual and deserves to be treated that way.”
You seem to think that your way is the only way and anyone without good morals like you needs to be judged. Your incredibly closed minded and uptight. You’d fit in well with the christian fundamentalists wacko’s.
GayEGO
Hey! I am gay and I like gay porn and gay sex. But I also like having a relationship with a man e.g. my hubby, a home, retirement, etc.
I do not like straight porn or straight sex, my willy goes to sleep and is limpy. :>)
Stache99
@enlightenone: Please keep doing what you’re doing closemindedone. Usually people with those kind of attitudes are that way for a reason. Like no one (paid or otherwise) wants to see it.
mantecamikeofca
@enlightenone: You know nothing of my relationship with Mark. I have never had sex in an alleyway or in the bushes. With Mark or anyone else. We did not treat each other as a “consumer product to be used as an object for someone else’s release and then disposed of.” I did not own him, what he did for a living was his affair. Just as he probably would have found my white collar job in San Francisco’s Financial District boring. For the record porn stars have always been “full of themselves.” And obviously being the self righteous type, you come across as more than full or yourself. I respected him for being the kind hearted, well meaning man he was. Doing what we all do which is to make our way in the world the best way we know how.
As for the priest who wanted date you but was rejected…. Did he ever dodge a bullet. You present as such a bitter, unhappy person. Stop fretting about what consenting adults do between themselves. On screen or off. Try cleaning up your side of the street first.
mantecamikeofca
@Stache99: @enlightenone Does not have “good morals.” He’s simply a holier-than-thou scold. See my response to him below. Thanks and have a good day.
mantecamikeofca
@Stache99: Thank you.