When the State Department came to the decision that passport applications would swap the terms “mother” and “father” for “parent one” and “parent two,” antigay organizations like Family Research Council criticized “the topsy-turvy world of left-wing political correctness,” Medialite reported in 2011.
The State Department defended its gay-friendly decision, and, while the Human Rights Campaign heralded the decision as “a position step forward for all American families,” it seems that none other than then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was highly displeased with the changes:
Writing to her aides, she demanded to know, “Who made the decision that State will no longer use the term ‘mother and father,’ and instead substitute ‘parent one and two’? I’m not defending that decision, which I disagree [with] and knew nothing about, in front of this Congress. We need to address this today or we will be facing a huge Fox-generated media storm led by [Sarah] Palin et al.”
Scott Mitchell
The key words are “once opposed”! Of course she did. She’s evolved, maybe solely for political reasons, maybe for other reasons, but . . . whatever the reason, her position has changed. To keep dwelling on the past stops people from moving forward. Move forward people and . . . let it go.
Ton Saeliew
Wow I could care less what she said or didn’t say in the past. What I do care about is what she is willing to do today that will actually affect me. Her record in this regard is clearly positive.
Aragon Draco
Evolution of one’s opinions implies growth. But, that evolution does not discount the fact that she’s taken money from massive corporations, supported illegal wars, and to this day is unapologetic about it. Sanders has my vote at this time.
Desert Boy
Hillary Clinton was never pro-LGBT rights. It wasn’t until daughter Chelsea, dragged her mother, kicking and screaming into the modern world, did Hillary finally “get it” and embraced LGBT equality.
Remember, as recently as 2008, Hillary said she opposed the repeal of her husband’s DOMA. Saying she only wanted to see Article 3 of the former law repealed.
I’ve never understood why the gay community embraces the Clintons, Bill and Hillary, that is. At best, they’re fair weather friends to our community.
1EqualityUSA
My, what fair weather we’ve been having lately.
Peter Grant
it wasn’t an LGBT friendly phrase – it was a stupid phrase. I would have objected too.
maxxbot
@Desert Boy: Its because Bill and Hillary are slick politicians and are able to fool the vast majority who don’t pay close attention to politics. Only Bernie Sanders has been a consistent supporter of LGBT rights, even going back to the 70s.
Frank Eugene Hartsock
I’m moving forward…letting it go…
Feeling the Bern…
Ladbrook
Evil fucking bitch. Always has been, always will be.
Run Joe, run.
1EqualityUSA
maxxbot, Have you seen the veins in that man’s head?
Seattleite
I agree with Peter, as a parent I’m offended by the “parent 1” / “parent 2” naming. Hillary is right, you should be able to select if you want to be called father or mother for either parent. My son calls me dada not parent 1.
Giancarlo85
Same old antiHillary bullshit from the peanut gallery. Then you have gay republicans, like desert boy, thriving on nonsense like this. How some have the gall to throw stones while supporting right wing politics.
Curty
Hilary doesn’t care about glbt equality its strictly a ploy until she possibly gets in office then she won’t do nothing to advance more equality for glbt citizens. She’s a panderer and phony.
Daniel-Reader
I’d be happy if politicians stopped taking money from Saudi Arabia and other oppressive anti-Christian, anti-Woman, anti-LGBT countries for their foundations and their political campaigns. And if U.S. politicians stopped becoming lobbyists for these countries. Taking money gained from atrocities committed by authoritarian governments is appalling.
Curty
HRC gave an award to Bill Clinton two days ago. Can you believe that? The author and President who signed tow discriminatory laws DADT and DOMA. One law prohibited gays and lesbians from receiving any benefits of they were married by federal government. The second prejudiced discriminatory law banned glbt from serving on the military. Hilary defended both laws for years, while her Opponent Obama was against them from the beginning. When about was in state Illinois government, he votes against DOMA for the state and made a promise which he kept to repeal dadt which congress did in December 2010. Hilary never spoke out against dadt even after Obama, her boss repealed it. Just stating the facts. Hilary is NOT pro gay rights it is just a political move to garner more votes from more liberal candidates like Sanders, O’malley.
Mack
The times have changed-get over it. At one time most of the straight people alive opposed gays in every way, shape and form. Many have changed their minds-the Right wingers still opposes because of their false God.
dgsea06
Oh, please. Another Hillary Clinton email “gotcha” from the terribly lonely, nosy, snoopy do gooders?
I,too, would have been pissed if my staff made a change to policy without at least notifying me of the change they made, without my knowledge or consent.
“Mother” and “Father” generally refers to biological parents. Adopted children may have a “mother” and a “father”. Or, a “mother” and a “mother”, or a “father” and a “father”.
In other words, Two Moms or Two Dads. Legal Guardians, as it were.
But “parent 1 and parent 2” is almost Orwellian. Or “I am Borg, you must be assimilated, resistance is futile”. Ask Seven of Nine.
Can you imagine the following discourse: “I am parent 1, You are parent 2. No, I am parent 1, YOU are parent 2! NO! I’m 1 and You are 2! While the children watch and listen to their “parents” argue and fight.
Can’t happen in the LGBT “community”? HaHa.
Finesse it out with intelligent, informed discussion, please.
Jumping all over Hillary for something six or seven years ago…
I say again, Please! Divest these threads of bullshit, we have bigger dinosaurs to fry.
THX, Bye.
Desert Boy
@Giancarlo85: Your mindless attacks on everyone have grown tiresome. For the record, I have NEVER VOTED REPUG IN MY LIFE. Read it slowly and carefully, Giancarlo85. Then, open the yellow pages to ‘Mental Health’ and find a good and cheap shrink who will agree to see you.
AxelDC
She did not oppose gay rights. She was worried about having to defend this decision before the mouth-breathers on Capitol Hill.
After 3 years of Benghazi hearings and email nonsense, you’d think Clinton might be a bit wary of Hill testimonies.
Being cautious is not the same as being opposed. Sometimes the gay press makes her out to be Anita Bryant if she doesn’t wear a rainbow flag to every campaign event.
1EqualityUSA
She’s crusty enough to take on the dark party. Obstructionists, self-serving, entitled, harmers of our country. Imagine how much more could have been done, had President Obama had some support. His legacy is established. The man got it done, despite the party of “no.” Hillary will be able to traverse the political quagmires. Experience and their past make it all the more likely that they will both try, both Bill and Hillary, to be successful while in office. Renovation of the Clinton name is a powerful motivator. Having two minds figuring out problems together is amazing, given all that they have gone through. They know the scene and the players. They know who to trust and who to circumvent. They both love the role and want to serve. Secretary of State gave her immense knowledge of the world. All of these cheap shots and stabs from the past are from frightened losers who can’t bear the thought that the Tedious Right has lost its bloom. They’re both smart as whips.
Madeleine Albright has said, “We will not be intimidated or pushed off the world stage by people who do not like what we stand for, and that is, freedom, democracy and the fight against disease, poverty and terrorism.”
The gay thing is losing steam, so now the Tedious Right will shake the dollar-tree against women in order to scrape up some political relevance. This stands to hurt the GOP. When women get fed up, they vote.
1EqualityUSA
When women get fed up they vote with tenacity.
Brian
Hillary Clinton has never been comfortable with homosexuality, apparently. She’s the type of person whom you could not rely on to achieve substantial gay progress. She’d be too scared in case it offended her opponents.
Just look at her husband’s poor record on gay rights.
People like her are not leaders. They are followers. Gay rights would not have gotten anywhere with followers.
AxelDC
Until Windsor (2013), it was illegal for the State Department to recognize same sex couples. She was following the law, not discriminating against gays.
1EqualityUSA
The Supreme Court is what really matters. Presidents come and go. She won’t impede our efforts.
Giancarlo85
@Curty: You again spout out of thin fucking air and expect us to believe everything you say as fact. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
@Brian: Her husband’s record on equality? Congress forced the matter with a veto-proof majority. Most of the democratic party was in favor of DOMA at the time, and the entire republican party was. VETO FUCKING PROOF MAJORITY.
This is what you trolls just don’t get on this site.
@Desert Boy: You are a mindless idiot who has never once demonstrated the ability to think on your own. And now you are in just denial. You’ve stated in the past that you have voted republican, and now you’re back tracking. You are the one with the conservative views and on that basis alone you need mental help. Being gay and being conservative is not a healthy way to live.
Come on two bit trolls… show me some actual proof. Your words are NOT proof.
Giancarlo85
@Curty: Hillary is pro-LGBT rights and is far more than you can imagine. But go ahead, keep spouting off more bullshit.
Oh wow… of course you know more than anyone else and you keep spouting off about Bill CLinton. You don’t know shit about separation of powers or the three branches of government. You need to put yourself into a basic civics 101 class. Go pick up a book on American government.
http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Idiots-Government-Politics-Guides/dp/1592578535/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1443740425&sr=8-8&keywords=american+government
This is probably a good title for a lot of the trolls here… it’s written in simple language. Of course, one of the books I have from my graduate studies would be far too complicated for your mind.
But please pick up a copy of this book and look up the part on “Presidential Veto Overrides”.
http://www.senate.gov/reference/glossary_term/override_of_a_veto.htm
Maybe if you guys would educate yourselves on this, you would understand Bill had no choice. His own party supported DOMA to a large extent and the republican party was universally in favor. If he vetoed it, he would be easily casted aside (through a veto).
Curty
@Desert Boy: Ignore him he’s a moron and a discrimination apologist and attacks anyone who doesn’t share his views. He tried to bully anyone he disagrees with. Complete nutball.
Curty
@Giancarlo85: He had a choice asswipe just like you have a choice to attack with name calling for anyone who disagrees or criticizes Hilary. Who do you think you are? Stop being a fucking bully on here, are you paid by the Clinton campaign, making me not vote for her because you come off as a rabid obsessive lunatic.
Curty
@Brian: Yup. Exactly and she supported her husbands anti gay views, laws for years… She is a panderer, not leader like Sanders is.
Curty
Got this from on the issues Obama opposed DOMA not Hilary •Supports DOMA, which Bill Clinton signed. (Jul 2007)
•Don’t ask don’t tell was an important transition step. (Jun 2007) She agreed with don’t ask don’t tell a law which kicked out thousands of American soldiers simply for who they are and love.
Obama’s record well before it WAS Convenient
•Include sexual orientation in anti-discrimination laws. (Jul 1998
•Opposed 1996 Illinois DOMA bill. (Mar 2007)
•Pass ENDA and expand hate crime legislation. (Mar 2007)
•Opposes CA Prop. 8, one-man-one-woman marriage. (Jul 2008)
•Same-sex couples should be allowed to marry. (May 2012)
So there you go before she begun pandering for votes and made political moves she was for DADT, DOMA. Where Obama was against those things and for ENDA and anti discrimination laws no such thing for Hilary until it was MOST convenient. She is a follower not a leader.
Giancarlo85
@Curty: He didn’t have a choice you ignoramus. HE DID NOT HAVE A CHOICE AS HIS OWN PARTY WAS IN FAVOR OF DOMA. Not just him. There was a supermajority against him. Many democrats would have gone with republicans to override any potential veto.
@Curty: you’ve proven you are a right wing republican. And you do such a good job following your own stupid advice. You respond to me in the next post.
You are the biggest bully on here and you consistently ignore anything I post about government. YOU NEED TO EDUCATE YOURSELF immediately.
Curty
Bernie Sanders record A real leader well before it was politically accepted to do.
•Never accept racism, sexism, nor homophobia. (Jun 1997)
•Voted YES on reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act. (Feb 2013)
•Voted NO on Constitutionally defining marriage as one-man-one-woman. (Jul 2006)
•Voted NO on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)
•Voted NO on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage. (Sep 2004)
•Voted NO on protecting the Pledge of Allegiance. (Sep 2004)
•Voted NO on constitutional amendment prohibiting flag desecration. (Jun 2003)
••ENDA: prohibit employment discrimination for gays. (Jun 2009) Voted NO on banning gay adoptions in DC. (Jul 1999
.Voted NO for DOMA
.Opposed DADT
Giancarlo85
And I’m a discrimination apologist? Who the fuck are you, curty? Tell me what kind of person of significance you are? What kind of education do you have in government? Obviously you are severely lacking in this field. Fuck you and fuck your stupid beliefs!
Curty
@Giancarlo85: I don’t bully anyone on here. In fact I may post something once or twice a week, unlike everyday and hour like you do on here. I just posted records and facts for proof. Everyone can go to On the issues.org to read the records and statements yourself. Hilary is a fraud, a liar and not trustworthy, Bernie is.
Giancarlo85
@Curty: Except you’ll vote for a republican before you vote for Hillary. This is how much of a lying loser you are.
You are nothing but a right wing sleazebag. You probably supported Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012.
AxelDC
@1EqualityUSA: If Republicans win the White House, they could appoint 4 new Justices in 8 years, leaving us with a 7-2 Republican court.
Giancarlo85
@Curty: You are a massive bully and you continue posting absolute bullshit. You have NEVER backed yourself up. I have posted links talking about government and veto overrides. You just consistently ignore it. Bill Clinton could not do anything and he could not veto it. You’re a fucking fraud and a liar.
Curty
@Giancarlo85: I supported Obama twice you nimrod toad. If I was republican that would be my choice just like your choice to be a democrat it is America right? Dummmy.
Giancarlo85
” In fact I may post something once or twice a week, unlike everyday and hour like you do on here.”
You posted for many days in every article about Hillary.
I don’t post under most of the articles on this site. Everyday and hour? More bullying horseshit from CURTY. The site’s republican bootlicker.
Giancarlo85
@Curty: Nope. you supported Ron Paul and then supported McCain and Romney. Please don’t lie to us.
The only reason why you support Sanders is to get a republican in the White Houes because we know Sanders has no shot in the general election. Just look at polling. Hillary does better against republicans, than Sanders does.
AxelDC
@Curty: If Sanders is such a leader:
1) Why have none of his House or Senate colleagues endorsed him, including Vermonters? Leahy has worked with him for 25 years and endorsed Clinton.
2) Why have all 3 Democratic Vermont Governors he’s worked with endorsed Clinton, including Howard Dean and current Gov. Peter Shumlin.
3) His only executive experience is Mayor of Burlington, a town of 42k.
4) He has never held a leadership position in his 25 years in Congress, aside his 2 year stint as a Committee chair from 2013-2015.
If Sanders is such a leader, why do his own party members seem to hold him in such low esteem? If you were applying for a promotion, wouldn’t you ask for your peers’ endorsements?
Curty
@Giancarlo85: He’s a lunatic go back and read his post and many attacks on people he disagrees with and see who the real bully and nutjob is. You really need mental help Giancarlo you argue with people all day. Yes I comment on Hilary because she is a fraud, a liar and disingenuous. Much like yourself. 🙂
Curty
@Giancarlo85: I voted for Obama twice but keep on being delusional that I voted for McCain and Romneyhood ok. Keep letting the little voices in your head tell you that.
Giancarlo85
@Curty: You are the real lunatic and a nutjob. You are a phony and you show your phony ways to everyone on this site when you viciously attack anyone who supports Hillary. You need a psychologist and you need to be put on strong medication. You are the FRAUD and you are the LIAR. You are a pathetic imbecile who has NEVER backed up ANYTHING you have said on this site. You are full of shit… full of hot air. You make politicians look like angels.
Giancarlo85
@AxelDC: Howard Dean and Shumlin can’t stand the guy. Even Howard Dean, a definite progressive, endorses Clinton. Hillary is the only democrat that has a clear shot at beating any republican in the general election. Curty supports Bernie because he wants a republican in the White House. It’s all politics.
Curty
More establishment people endorse Hilary because she is part of the establishment like Bush! That’s why. And Clinton is losing most polls to GOP candidates. All, from this week. Again facts Check out real clear politics for polls.
Texas: Cruz vs. Clinton Texas Lyceum Cruz 39, Clinton 32 Cruz +7
Michigan: Rubio vs. Clinton FOX 2 Detroit/Mitchell Clinton 40, Rubio 43 Rubio +3
North Carolina: Trump vs. Clinton PPP (D) Clinton 42, Trump 47 Trump +5
North Carolina: Carson vs. Clinton PPP (D) Carson 51, Clinton 41 Carson +10
General Election: Fiorina vs. Clinton NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Clinton 44, Fiorina 45 Fiorina +1
Curty
@Giancarlo85: I don’t attack everyone. You do. I simply state facts with records and no I’m not a Hilary supported, I don’t believe in herm so what! I post records, polls and links but don’t have anything to back it up with? You are clearly blind, deaf and stupid.
Giancarlo85
@Curty: No, that’s nonsense. And Texass and North Carolina? Who are you shitting/
Those polls are jokes. You cite one from Texas and North Carolina. Two republican states. Two states Obama didn’t even come close to winning (at least in 2012, Obama did win NC in 2008 but that was it).
You’re an idiot.
Funny you didn’t even post any about Sanders who would get destroyed in the general election.
Curty
Florida: Bush vs. Clinton FL Chamber Bush 48, Clinton 37 Bush +11 from today asshole.
Giancarlo85
@Curty: You’re an uneducated idiot. You don’t even know anything about politics and all you post is trash. You don’t even know how to support your own weak points. Hillary is pro-LGBT. Fucking deal with it. I have posted multiple links (including a book) to help you educate you and you simply ignore them. You are fucking STUPID.
Giancarlo85
@Curty: Unsupported bullshit.
Funny how he won’t back up anything.
Giancarlo85
Why won’t he post any Sanders polls against republicans? Because they don’t look good at all!
Curty
@Giancarlo85: I have backed up everything tonight, can you not read? You are a raving moron… damn you are so lost and stupid.
Curty
@Curty: General Election: Trump vs. Sanders NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Sanders 52, Trump 36 Sanders +16
There.
Giancarlo85
@Curty: This is like listening to a selective idiot.
@Curty: You haven’t backed up shit. I have posted multiple links and a book for you to educate yourself. You haven’t read shit and you are a raving right wing idiot. THe only reason you support Sanders, is to get a republican in the White House.
Giancarlo85
This guy refuses to back up anything. I think he’s making up numbers.
Curty
As you can see those who see this nutjob going after me because I showed Hilary poor record on glbt issues compared to Obama, Sanders and I showed polls were she is losing to GOP candidates. Giancarlo claims I have showed nothing, no backup when I clearly have. What you have here is a very stubborn, delusional and psychopathic maniac who is beyond reasoning. The bitch lives is a fantasy world were facts, past records don’t count or mean nothing. GIABCARLO85 is a very, very dangerous and illogical person and my best advice is to ignore this stained soul.
Giancarlo85
@Curty: And there he goes again… full circle. Like an idiot dog chasing its tail. Hillary doesn’t have a poor record. This guy has never posted anything to back himself up. I have posted multiple links and a book for him to educate himself. Reading is a good thing, and this egotistical psychotic nutcase continues to ignore the facts I have posted. I think he needs to be institutionalized.
I live in the real world. You need to be investigated immediately. I will be passing this on to the administrators. I will now flag every post you make. Your accusations are borderline libel. Continue posting them.
Curty
@Giancarlo85: Go to realclearpolitics.com for yourself ok and there you will see all I have posted are FACTS. Go to the issues.org and get voting records and statements on people. You really showed how much of a loser, and sore loser tonight. Please seek mental help.
Giancarlo85
You are a disgusting hateful transphobic bigot. And you are a deplorable human being. Your hatred for others borderlines on violence. Perhaps if we had less violence, we wouldn’t have people dying like in Oregon today. Your rhetoric is violent.
Giancarlo85
@Curty: Nope. You are selectively posting and even putting up polls with extremely small samples. Your idiocy is apparent. You didn’t even back up your polls with any links. You have been utterly crushed tonight.
Curty
@Giancarlo85: lol still going off because I showed you up with links, numbers in polls and how clinton is a phony and opportunistic when it comes to glbt people, when Obama and Sanders have been fighting for years and have a proven record on pro glbt rights. I posted the quotes, polls and gave up links to the websites were I got them from. You’re just so delusional and sick to accept getting ya bony ass handed to. Man you are a loser lol.
McShane
@Giancarlo85: “I will be passing this on to the administrators. I will now flag every post you make. Your accusations are borderline libel.”
Like you’re some special F’ing snowflake. I doxed you months ago. Should I share what I learned? Or are you going to have another nervous breakdown and quit Queerty once and for all?
Pro Tip: If you’re going to start arguments with anything that moves and harass people online, don’t use your real name or give out huge amounts of personal information.
Curty
I’m not transphobic. I do want to deny that. I have trans friends and believe they should NOT be discriminated against. So another made up lie by you. You are really pathetic Giancarlo85. Now making up me being transphobic? Wtf? No evidence of that at all. But you are blind to facts anyway.
Giancarlo85
@McShane: *Yawn* You are a bore. You always say the same stuff. It’s like watching a washing machine. You think you are so interesting… sorry but you’re not worth my time. You are not a “pro”. You are am an amateur (hence why you run off immediately after people question you). You are the one that needs to quit before you have a stroke. It seems my very presence offends you and makes you very angry. LOL!
@Curty: You are very transphobic and hateful. You do not have trans friends. Please don’t try that. Even Kim Davis claims “I have gay friends” blah blah blah blah… it doesn’t work here. You are a pathetic disgusting human being.
Curty
@McShane: He’s disgusting…. total fucking nutjob. He belongs to be with Cruz and Huckabee…
Giancarlo85
“don’t use your real name or give out huge amounts of personal information.”
And what “huge amounts of personal information”? LOL! What a snooze. I don’t even have a facebook or anything. I don’t even have social media. Many guys on here post their facebooks profile. My real name? Who says this is my real name LOL????!!!!
So sad… and gullible.
You’re a sad person, McShane.
Giancarlo85
@Curty: You are supporting Huckabee… so why are you accusing me of suppotring him?
Two sad deplorable human beings.
Curty
@Giancarlo85: My Trans are aniyah Johnson, Lady London. Yawns… I got a counter for you on everything tonight.
Giancarlo85
McShane has posted real pics of himself… LOL! And yet I’m the one that is posting too much info… what a moron…
Giancarlo85
@Curty: Your counters have failed miserably… pretty shitty. You don’t have any trans friends. What a failure at life…
Curty
@Giancarlo85: You act like Cruz and Huckabee. Beyond reason and facts and totally loony! That’s you. Ted Cruz.
McShane
You wanna dance? Lets. Dance.
https://twitter.com/gapena85
Giancarlo85
@McShane: Eww hell no. That isn’t me.
You are a disgusting ilttle man, McShane.
Curty
@Giancarlo85: I do have trans friends and just named the. Asshole. Don you have trans friends?
Giancarlo85
@Curty: You support Cruz and huckabee, you nutcase. I have posted links and even a book for you to read. A factual book on American government. It’s typed up in simple terms for you.
Giancarlo85
@Curty: Making up names, making up numbers… that is how you have been all night. Why would I name my friends on here? I don’t divulge personal information. Two of my close friends are trans, you dumbass. One is genderqueer.
Curty
@Giancarlo85: yadad yada yada. Full of hot bitter, stupid air. Nice pic btw on twitter. Didn’t know you were into sports. Thought just spewing nonsensical statements on queerty and showing the whole internet world how much of an asshole and crazy you are.
McShane
Your the only 30 year old, Giancarlo in Canoga Park. Your the only Giancarlo that was born in 1985 who graduated from California State University Long Beach.
Brian
Hillary Clinton plays it safe, just like her husband did. If she thinks a piece of legislation is going to offend her opponents, she is likely to shelve it. At least Obama led the way with his very active gay rights stance.
We would not have seen the rights we have today if Hillary had been elected President instead of Obama.
Giancarlo85
@Curty: That isn’t me. I hate sports. I don’t use twitter. By the way, you want the truth… I’m trans. You are the one that is inane and crazy.
@McShane: Except I don’t live in Canoga Park (rather about 10-12 miles away from there). And I never went to Cal State Long Beach. Long Beach lmao… that university is terrible. I don’t use Twitter at all. I used to have facebook until about 2012… but their privacy terms concerned me.
Curty
You don’t have social media because your whole social life revolves on here attacking people for your perverted pleasure!
Giancarlo85
So everyone with the name of “Giancarlo” must be on twitter? LMAO…. man. You never cease to amaze me.
Giancarlo85
@Curty: I don’t have social media because I don’t have time for that shit. And you attack people on here all day long. You are under every article posting the same crap.
Giancarlo85
So… I get it. Social media = having a life?
LOL. Maybe I’m old fashion, but that seems like BS to me.
McShane
I love how everything anyone tells you is a lie.
https://www.gradimages.com/Proofs?PIN=29534074&LastName=PENA
Curty
@Giancarlo85: why are you so afriad to show yourself on facebook? Let me make it clear. I am NOT transphobic that is offensive to me because it is not true and no proof of that. I’m very pro trans. Now I do not like Jenner. That is true because of jenner statements on gays, same sex marriage and Republican. But other than Jenner I have no issue with anyone been transgender.
Giancarlo85
@McShane: my last name isn’t Pena. Why are you posting this guys twitter? Maybe I should inform him… Not very nice. I only know one Pena… My bestfrined Nico Pena.
Curty
@Giancarlo85: You trans?
Giancarlo85
First off I am a lot feminine than that guy. And aside from soccer, I hate sports.
Giancarlo85
@Curty: yep.
McShane
@Curty:
He’s not trans, he’s said repeatedly in the past that he’s not. Just like he said that he didn’t work for a gas company. Which he does.
Giancarlo85
@McShane: I am not open about it and am still figuring stuff out.
McShane
Ok. Good for you. Why lie repeatedly?
Curty
@Giancarlo85: Do you look like a woman or just a feminine male queen?
Curty
@Giancarlo85: Are you recently on transitioning?
McShane
@Curty:
Dude, he’s lying through his teeth. Nearly everything he has said about himself is a lie.
Giancarlo85
@McShane: this is my personal business. I do not identify as an gender label.
@Curty: it isn’t your business.
Giancarlo85
@McShane: you are a scumbag and the liar. What am I lying about? You are a sleazy old man… And you have no dignity. Now leave me alone. I have had enough of this.
Curty
@Giancarlo85: you’re a fucking psychopath… now creating a new identity for yourself. Lower than low and I started to feel bad for your sick ass… you are sick…
Curty
@Giancarlo85: Fuck you delusional liar fake trans freak. You aren’t trans. You are a lying lunatic tho.
Giancarlo85
I am not lying. And I am tired of fighting, name calling and all of this. I call a unilateral truce. I am not going to engage in fighting anymore. I am who I am.
Carlos Zuniga
Those log cabin repubes! LOL
Giancarlo85
Why do you want to know so much about me? Why does it matter who I am? Does it bother you that much?
Giancarlo85
See guys… that says it all. You can see who the real bully is here.
I’ve said enough.
1EqualityUSA
AxelDC said, “If Republicans win the White House, they could appoint 4 new Justices in 8 years, leaving us with a 7-2 Republican court.”
That’s what we stand to lose if these “feel the berners” suck away votes. Ralph Nader sucked away crucial votes, leaving us with Bushels of trouble. I loved how you summed up his lack of world stage experience up in the comments. So True. The Supreme Court has the true power. ReBiblicans aren’t ashamed of lining the bench with religiously bent, politically minded life-timers. Having a 7-2 Republican court would send us back to the dark ages. Hobby-Lobby, Citizens United, and gutting the Voter Rights Act will be the tip of the iceberg.
Giancarlo85
@1EqualityUSA: The Sanders supporters on here are really republicans. Luckily it seems Trump could lose the nomination and run as third party, so he’ll split the republican party further.
1EqualityUSA
Trump won’t do that. He will fail on world stage issues and peter out fast. All along I felt Trump’s hot air nonsense was a red herring to get the raptors away from Bush. Bush is piddling along and thought of as no threat. He’s the sleeper creeper.
onthemark
Consider the theory that Giancarlo85 is a PAID Republican poster. That would adequately explain what he’s trying to do here, with such relentless charm.
“I don’t have social media because I don’t have time for that shit.” LOL. But think about it: you know it’s true. A simple google search will explain why he doesn’t have time for that, or time for anything besides his “life” on Queerty (and Towleroad!). One wonders when he has time to sleep.
“This is my last post on this site.” – Giancarlo85 on Queerty, Sept. 8, 2015. Followed of course by three more posts later that hour. And then he returns three days later!
FOLLOW THE MONEY. Paid per post, apparently!
onthemark
@1EqualityUSA: Rubio is even scarier in the long term.
Giancarlo85
@onthemark: LOL. Typical. The republican plant has decided to show up.
No, I don’t have social media. I only had facebook a few years ago, but gave up on that because of this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/facebook-privacy-issues/
I’m not on “Towleroad”. I only post on Queerty every now and then. And I do sleep.
I said I’ll give this site another chance.
You are directly working for the republican party, and you admitted it that you worked for them in the past. You even voted for several of their candidates (including Mitt Romney).
Giancarlo85
Oh and if you’re going to make a disingenuous claim about me being paid to post here, please prove it. Don’t lie.
I’m a leftist. I’m not even a democrat. I only vote democrat because there aren’t any candidates that are really left wing. I have never voted republican. That would go against my very existence.
onthemark
@Giancarlo85: I NEVER said or “admitted” any such thing. I have never voted for any Republican ever. PROVE IT.
Everything I write here, and everything you write here, is easily Google-able.
Just like when you lied about how you never bragged to us (several times) about your job at Sempra Energy.
No one is stopping you from leaving… AGAIN. Also, again – good job “ignoring” me!
Giancarlo85
@onthemark: Prove I am being paid to post here. Or stop making the claim. I am tired of all this.
Giancarlo85
You didn’t prove anything. Just more empty swings at me because you don’t like me. What about trans issue? I am surprised you didn’t attack me on that.
onthemark
@Giancarlo85: Prove that I ever posted anything “admitting” that I was a Republican! Or stop making the claim.
And if you’re “tired” of all this, stop LYING.
Giancarlo85
@onthemark: Lulz. You said I was a paid republican poster. You lied about that and haven’t proved anything.
Giancarlo85
What a shocker. He failed at it and I just exposed his hypocrisy 🙂
I’m kinda surprised he didn’t insult me on the other issue I brought up lol.
TomOH
I think this is being taken way out of context – it sounded like she was more concerned about Fox blowing up over this, than some personal objection to gay couples. Both the Clinton’s as well as Obama have been more methodical in their roll out of gay rights and equality, it didn’t happen overnight. Part of this includes dealing with Fox news and how they love to blow up the littlest things to try and smear Democrats and liberals.
onthemark
@Giancarlo85: It was after midnight here, brainiac.
My only evidence for your possibly being a paid Republican poster is simply that you post here so often and so obnoxiously, in a manner apparently designed to piss off potential Hillary voters – i.e. the vast majority of the Queerty readership.
There’s no way to “prove” that theory, of course, without hacking the Koch bros. interests, the Trump or Fiorina campaign or whatever disgusting organization is paying you to be such an @sshole here. But it’s a theory that fits the facts.
Trans, all of a sudden? Maybe you are. Or maybe you’re suddenly pretending to be trans because you think it’ll be more “fun” for you to accuse everyone here of being “transphobic.” I remember once you accused me once of being “transphobic,” out of the blue (on an article that had nothing to do with trans issues, of course), and at the time I really thought you’d confused me with someone else. I do read the trans articles here to learn info that’s unfamiliar to me, but I’m pretty sure I’ve never commented on that subject here, at all, ever.
By contrast with the Paid Republican Poster Theory, you’re always accusing people here of supposedly being Republicans. But everything we write here is accessible on Google. I’ve never written anything pro-Republican here. If you find anything to cite, cite away.
You’re always accusing people here of being fat, too, and you never have ANY evidence or “proof” for that. (Well, maybe McShane looks a bit pudgy in his pix.) Suddenly you’re concerned about “proof”? You might not want to go there.
And your only excuse for going off on your Nazi-lite, anti-disability tirades was that I’d voluntarily told you a little info.
There are several ACTUAL gay Republicans and pro-Republicans who post on Queerty, and they admit (or rather brag!) they are that. But you’re not nearly as bitchy with them as you are with… well… 90% of the gay liberal posters here. Hmmm, that’s a little suspicious in itself.
onthemark
@TomOH: I think you have it about right. She was concerned about that angle. Fox gloms onto things in a way most of us can’t understand. But she’s certainly familiar with how that “vast right-wing conspiracy” works!
And a poster named AxelDC says, way above: “Until Windsor (2013), it was illegal for the State Department to recognize same sex couples. She was following the law, not discriminating against gays.” @AxelDC:
1EqualityUSA
onthemark, I just don’t “feel it” for Rubio. He just doesn’t come off as Presidential. How deliciously ironic that Rubio would undo the various programs that helped him get through school. Perhaps it’s Rubio’s baby face? I just don’t see it, nor the Republicans getting in for a long, long time, given the changing demographics. The Supreme Court holds the true power.
Giancarlo85
@onthemark: No I am not. And I do not post often. Again I already explained the issue with the time stamp. I live in California. Pacific time. This site is located perhaps on the east coast.
You are an evil disgusting person. You are the republican plant and you are posting this hatred for free.
I am not pretending. I have no reason to pretend. It has nothing to do with having fun.
I have never written anything in support of republicans, so your theory is just bogus. You are the one that identified as an economic conservative. I am left wing on economic and social issues.
You are delusional and a liar. You are not a gay liberal and the people I criticize are not liberal.
You are one hateful, vindictive person. I have offered to end this nonsense but you refuse.
1EqualityUSA
Both you boys lay your swords down and go watch Longmire Seasons 1-4. The lead is an Australian actor named Robert Taylor. I detected no accent, though he’s a man of few words. Men with few words are powerful. Longmire, that’s my prescription for both of you.
1EqualityUSA
I wonder if skirmishes and military inroads are manufactured by 12 men in a smoky room. Politics could be swayed. What a powerful influence, fights. If the correlation of wars with election cycles panned out? I must go battle dust bunnies. I’m at war with bunnies, filth, and pestilence. I’m going 1950’s housewife today, save the pearls.
BJ McFrisky
snicker snicker
giggle giggle
hee hee hee
snort snort snort
chuckle chuckle
heh heh heh
onthemark
@Giancarlo85: As I’ve told you, I grew up in Calif. so I’m well aware of the time zones. If I’d stayed up til two o’clock you’d have just made a nasty remark about that.
I NEVER “identified as an economic conservative”! Prove it. Cite it. WHY would I ever do that anyway? I’m on SSDI, as you know – and you nastily derided posters who are on it. Because occasionally your TRUE Republican @sshole beliefs slip out.
“And I do not post often.” You really ARE delusional!
onthemark
@BJ McFrisky: You left out “cackle cackle cackle.”
@1EqualityUSA: I’d never heard of Longmire but I’ll look for it.
@1EqualityUSA: I just meant, I can see empty-suit Rubio possibly catching on for their nomination. And he seems a little more worrisome to me than the never-elected-to-anything frontrunners (Trump, Carson, Fiorina) who would be much easier for Hillary (or even Bernie) to slap down in the general election. I can’t imagine any of the rest of the 15 going much of anywhere, but it’s a strange campaign.
Carlos Rodriguez
Well, she have change her mind.
1EqualityUSA
onthemark, Bill Clinton will do everything in his power to help his wife succeed, as it’s a way to rebuild the Clinton name for the history books. This notion appeals to me. Two minds, as experienced as those two are, will serve well for problem solving and steering past the manufactured icebergs that Republicans tend to launch in an effort to obstruct progress. I made the bed with two dogs sacked out on top. It took me longer, but they were happy about not having to move. I wish Washington players could be like these guys. Humans are so weird. There’s nothing new under the sun.
martinbakman
The Clintons. Is what it is.
Electing a Repub would be disaster. Look at what little Bush did to the country. The prior comment about the Supreme Court is so true. Can’t afford any more Republicrat judges.
Arcamenel
I’m not fan of that shill but this doesn’t seem that damning. Parent 1 and Parent 2 seems kind of stupid and I’m sure she’s right about the fox media thing.
Still Bernie would never have this problem, just saying 🙂
Giancarlo85
@onthemark: You are a cruel horrible person and you most definitely identified as an economic conservative. And there is nothing wrong with welfare, social security, and disability benefits. So don’t try to speak for me again, asshole. You are a twisted demented loser who holds contempt for many others. Off the fucking mark.
Curty
@Giancarlo85: I accept your truce. Respect.
onthemark
If anyone wants some really goofy entertainment, or is bored waiting for a hurricane like I am, check out Giancarlo’s dramatic (if temporary) departure from Queerty on Sept. 8 near the end of these comments:
http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-who-take-truvada-daily-remain-free-of-hiv-according-to-new-study-20150904
For some reason he forgets that everything we write is permanently on record. There is, of course, no record of me “identifying as an economic conservative.” He thought I was being a mean cruel horrible person merely for mentioning his employer, Sempra, which he’d bragged about only 3 or so months before.
As for the truce, we had one before and he broke it (after viciously attacking several other posters in this thread). Less than a month ago he vowed to “ignore” me but he couldn’t do it yesterday, & probably forgot he ever said it. I didn’t address him first.
As for his suddenly being trans, I suppose any of you are now entitled to demand PROOF! (Personally I’ll skip that, though.)
@Curty: Good luck with that!
@Giancarlo85: Nobody is stopping you from being civil here. Try it sometime.
onthemark
@1EqualityUSA: I agree! I’m puzzled by some campaign mistakes she has made. But I think the public will warm up to her (& Bill again) next year.
onthemark
I guess it’s possible that Giancarlo simply can’t keep track of anyone here, or is too lazy to even try to do so.
For example: I lived in Massachusetts all through Mitt Romney’s governorship, and I can assure everyone that I certainly NEVER voted for him! Not in 2012, or the ’06 governor’s race, or the ’94 Senate race or dogcatcher or any other time. I never would have written anything remotely positive about him at all, ever, in my entire adult life, here or at the Boston Globe or the Herald or the (defunct) Phoenix or the gay paper Bay Windows or the local papers or any other site. Giancarlo must be mixing me up with some other poster. And there ARE a few I can think of.
But you really need a functioning memory if you’re going to go around making nasty charges like that. Or you need to actually give a sh*t about what you’re saying.
dgsea06
WoW! I thought we were discussing Hillary’s reaction to the State Department’s changing wording on passports, or something like that.
How did this thread degenate onto insults and name calling? Oh wait, I guess it’s the “thing” to do.
Please read the “Queerty Comment Policy” Relevant to the article, avoid (?) personal attacks on editors and your fellow commenters.
Whew Boring!
I wish I could quote someone who may have said that civility is a virtue. Humor in reparte can be fun!
Um, well, guess not.
onthemark
@dgsea06: You’re right, you’re right, you’re right. But you must be new here! A lot of threads degenerate into the Giancarlo85 Show.
lauraspencer
Ms. Clinton has not evolved.
She is still the same politician she always has been and sadly practices the same hypocrisy seen in both Republicans and Democrats.
Clinton says whatever she needs to say at the time to get to the next step in her career. She positions herself as being “for the people” and in reality she is for herself.
Just like she evolved on LGBT issues it seems she devolved on the credit card issue on the link below. How long before she flip flops on LGBT issues if it suits her needs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV1Afh-g42M
1EqualityUSA
and in her second term, she’ll do well to usher in long overdue women’s equality.
lauraspencer
@McShane:
Excellent detective skills McShane!
dgsea06
Thanks, onthemark.
I may be new here, but I am not new to the world. I’ve been online since the internet was created. 1988, somewhere around then. Among the first (and still!) AOL subscribers.
You, and giancarlo85 and curly, I say What? I’ll go to Huffington Post’s Politics page for rant and rave about, y’know, Politics!
Here we are talking about HRC, and her reaction to the SOS staff. Myself, I find the alteration of documents unnessary and not particularly “Pro-LGBT”. Do you really think “parent 1 and parent 2” is pro-LGBT? Did you read my earlier comment? I am not an “L” nor am I a “B”, nor a “T”, I am a “G”. Although I would prefer to be labeled “A 70 year old homosexual VietNam combat veteran”, with the scars to prove it. Purple Heart, y’know. 173rd Airborne Brigade, Corporal in rank, 1966.
For Queerty, and for that matter, HuffPo to say that Hillary “fumed” over this comes down to a woman “fumes”. A man gets “angry”. I believe you understand where I am on this.
Let’s keep relevant to the subject, and maybe call out the headline makers upon their obvious little ol’scandal ploy: Won’t work, folks, we see through this.
Thanks, Bye
Giancarlo85
@onthemark: So… what?
I said I’ll give the place another chance a few days later. Trying to start fresh maybe?
Yes, nobody is stopping you from being civil. You keep making this personal towards me in every article I post a comment in.
“He thought I was being a mean cruel horrible person merely for mentioning his employer, Sempra, which he’d bragged about only 3 or so months before. ”
So what? I just said I don’t like your threats.
“As for the truce, we had one before and he broke it (after viciously attacking several other posters in this thread). Less than a month ago he vowed to “ignore” me but he couldn’t do it yesterday, & probably forgot he ever said it. I didn’t address him first. ”
We never had a truce because you never kept it and kept on attacking me viciously. You suddenly appear out of nowhere.
Here is my tip: Don’t quit your day job and get a life please.
“As for his suddenly being trans, I suppose any of you are now entitled to demand PROOF! (Personally I’ll skip that, though.) ”
Hormones.
@lauraspencer: You are extremely dishonest about Hillary, but I wouldn’t expect any less from someone who is voting republican. 🙂
@lauraspencer: Except that’s not me and I don’t live in Canoga Park. But I didn’t realize everyone with the name “Giancarlo” in Los Angeles had to be on twitter. TWitter isn’t that popular.
Giancarlo85
@dgsea06: Offthemark is simply someone who can’t let go of a grudge. I really don’t care for him anymore. He’s full of the same vapid answers and it seems like he’s now repeating himself and harping on about my supposed employment (he tries to use it in a threatening manner). I just laugh it all off.
THe guy really has nothing… asides from a huge chip on his shoulder.
lauraspencer
@Giancarlo85:
Hello my dear! At this point in time I am not voting Republican even though that is the assumption you always make about me. It is still way too early to tell who the candidates will be.
As I have said previously, I would like to see a Biden/Bernie ticket.
Curty
@Giancarlo85: Do we have a truce now?
Giancarlo85
@Curty: Sure. I got no issue anymore with you.
@lauraspencer: And I would like to win the lotto. What republican candidates are any good? Lol. You have to be kidding me.
darian
Wow this whole thing turned quick.
onthemark
@Giancarlo85: Just calm down, stop LYING and making offensive charges that would be easily provable IF true, but you can’t ever cite them because they don’t exist.
I’m glad that idiot “lauraspencer” showed up because I thought that may be the poster you were mixing me up with. I’d been mystified by his/her comments on voting and finally asked point blank, who have you voted for recently? I was even more mystified when the reply included Obama in 2008 and Romney in 2012! I don’t know why ANYONE would do that! That makes no sense.
Anyway, stop lying about me supposedly voting for Romney. It’s easy to prove if I ever wrote such a thing here. And you’d rather quickly find, it ain’t there. With you it’s trickier because you post here SO MUCH that there are hundreds and hundreds and maybe thousands of posts on google to sift thru! With any of the rest of us, that kind of research would be much easier. I commonly go a week at a time without posting here, and most of us are the same.
“You suddenly appear out of nowhere.” This is the weirdest “criticism” you could come up with. You’re complaining that I don’t post here ENOUGH?
If you think you don’t post here a lot, you really are delusional. Yes, I believe you have a job, but you get up very early (in the SoCal fashion as I’m very familiar with) and post for a few hours every morning before you go to work, and then 9 hours later you’re back here haranguing everyone all evening. Plus for a long time you piously claimed that you never used the phone to post, but recently you let slip that you’re using the phone to post after all. Don’t tell me to “get a life.” Queerty is your life! Pretty sad for a 30 year old.
I’m only posting today because it’s raining. (Something you wouldn’t know about, lol.)
And if you’re really trans, I hope you are REQUIRED under California law to get therapy and you shouldn’t pretend it’s some kind of imperialist assault on your Colombian pseudo-macho (trans?) bullsh*t even to suggest such a thing. You freaked out before at the suggestion and pompously declared you “don’t have issues.” Well, being trans is definitely an “issue,” like it or not. If you’re really trans, it’s impossible to believe that you’ve NEVER been to a therapist. That’s probably a legal requirement.
onthemark
@lauraspencer: I will happily vote for Hillary because of two words: Supreme. Court.
Giancarlo85
@onthemark: I think you’re the one that needs to calm down. And yet another long winded reply that says nothing at all. I’m not surprised by your antics.
“but you get up very early (in the SoCal fashion as I’m very familiar with) and post for a few hours every morning before you go to work”
No. I may post 10-20 minutes but that’s about it and usually that’s on my phone. I get up at 5AM everyday… even on weekends as I have to drop of my boyfriend at work too. That’s just life.
“and then 9 hours later you’re back here haranguing everyone all evening.”
Not the case either. Not “all evening”.
You can say whatever you want, I know you hate me and want to hurt me. You are crazy, fanatical and vindictive. You don’t know who I am and you don’t know anything about my personal life. It frankly isn’t your fucking business. And issues? I’ve worked them out the right way.
You on the other hand need some serious help.
But to be honest… I really don’t care anymore. Say what you want. You think you know everything and I’ll leave it at that.
Giancarlo85
You post a lot more than me. I often don’t post for days. And your posts are always long winded and paragraphs long (like your last one). You seem to love to lecture others.
Anyways, have fun with that. I wish you the best in life.
onthemark
@Giancarlo85: “I know you hate me and want to hurt me.” Hey, you wrote TWICE that you wished I “would be run over by a bus.” You said my mother should have aborted me. You can out-do anyone in the vicious irrational HATE department. “you don’t know anything about my personal life.” – We all know TMI about your personal life which you ramble on about ad nauseum. But whenever someone makes a comment about some detail of it, that you’ve actually TOLD us, you whine that we’re being mean. Then you lie and deny you ever told us. (Again: Google exists.) I bet most of us would appreciate it if you told us much, much less about your personal life. Yes, please start doing that.
“You post a lot more than me.” No. It’s a demonstrable FACT – provable on search engines – that you are BY FAR the most prolific poster here. There is not one person here who’d disagree. Plus, you were just bitching that I “come out of nowhere” (i.e. I don’t post enough?- where am I supposed to “come from”?) and now you’re saying I post too much. Make up your mind!
“You think you know everything and I’ll leave it at that.” So… leave it at that.
Re: “hormones”: “How do you make a hormone?” “Don’t pay her!” LOL.
Giancarlo85
That’s nice dear.
Giancarlo85
http://treasure.diylol.com/uploads/post/image/434429/resized_creepy-willy-wonka-meme-generator-do-tell-me-about-this-cool-story-bro-b6ef01.jpg
Some live in fantasy.
onthemark
@Giancarlo85: Well that’s another thing. I’m not going to click on that (it may have a virus) but I assume it’s some nasty “joke” about what you think I look like. If I were to post a link suggesting you look like a trans version of Gollum, with a lisping Spanish accent (not that I necessarily think that)… you’d squawk, you’d bitch and moan, you’d call it “xenophobic” or “transphobic” or whatever your Word Of The Week is.
But if you really want to let it go and start over, fine. Just stop being an @sshole and let it go.
And stop pretending you “don’t hate anyone.” Suddenly you’re a Buddhist? Only hipster white Buddhists say stuff like that. As I’ve pointed out, you don’t need to imagine Republicans who don’t exist. There are plenty of actual gay Republicans who post here. They’re proud of it (for some dumb reason!) and they tell us so. Pick on them, you sadistic little bitch! 🙂
lauraspencer
@onthemark:
Please don’t bring me into your little games. Why do I get called an idiot by simply saying I haven’t decided who I’m going to vote for and that I like the idea of a Biden/Bernie ticket?
As an American I have the right to cast my vote for who I want. I’m not telling you who to vote for so please don’t tell me how I should cast mine.
Giancarlo85
@onthemark: It is a meme. Not a virus. Cool story bro.
Leave it to this guy to make an essay like response to a picture.
Funny how you go crazy responding to stuff I didn’t say.
I didn’t realize a picture would make him so angry.
Giancarlo85
I get it… He thrives off this. He will go on a fanatical ISIL like tirade… Yup.
What an angry unfortunate soul.
Post whatever you want. I know what I am. 🙂
onthemark
@Giancarlo85: OK, I jumped to conclusions!
@lauraspencer: That’s not why I called you an idiot. I asked you, didn’t Romney & Ryan’s anti-gay views bother you in 2012? And you replied, “no.” I asked you WHY you voted for Romney in 2012 (after voting for Obama in ’08!) and you disappeared and didn’t answer.
A Biden/Bernie ticket has its charms, I agree. But your political views have no obvious logical consistency. Let’s say… they are idiosyncratic.
lauraspencer
@onthemark:
Life is not logical.
Giancarlo85
Just post a meme. Pictures make him so angry. I’m sure if I post another, I’ll have to decipher through a 6,000 word essay split into eight different posts about how he knows everything about me as a person lol =D I keep everything ambigiuous and vague.
onthemark
@Giancarlo85: I never looked at it and I’m not going to. I merely guessed from your past behavior that you were being an @sshole. And you’re the one who splits up everything into 8 different posts, thereby adding up to a 6,000 word essay anyway.
But I’m sorry that all the reading is too much for your imaginary M.A. degree.
onthemark
@lauraspencer: If you’re going to give an “answer” like that, you really should keep your Romney voting history a secret. People will assume you had a crush on Paul Ryan.
Giancarlo85
@onthemark: That is nice. There is nothing imaginary. You still don’t know shit about me.
So all I will say is… Cool story bro.
lauraspencer
@onthemark:
I have no reason to lie. I did vote for Obama in ’08 and Romney in ’12.
As for attraction if I had to choose between Obama/Biden and Romney/Paul when it comes to sharing a bed I would choose the latter.
Curty
@lauraspencer: Why did you vote for Romneyhood in 2012?? :-/
Giancarlo85
I don’t see the attraction to the Romney/Ryan ticket. If anyone wants to see what Paul Ryan is doing these days, look at the House of Representatives. That is your answer. He’s a total disaster. His “budget” suggestions when he was Chairman of the House Budget Committee would have been catastrophic for this nation if they were implemented.
o.codone
Well, sorry to say that 2008 was her moment and Mr. Obama ate her lunch. Some people say that she was over-confident, that she thought it was going to be handed to her, without question, and that she didn’t have her ground game in gear, so she failed. Now, it’s too late. Her moment has passed. 8 years later she now sounds like a conservative. The awkwardness at campaign rallies which we used to overlook, are now embarrassing for being so rehearsed. The pants suits stand out so she looks like Bozo, the missteps with the server, Benghazi, and her history of gaffes (I don’t feel in no ways tired),(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-H9BOIYhgc) are all events we want to go away, NOW. So, now she’s unelectable. That’s why the DNC has readied Biden and Warren. It’s a shame. It wasn’t worth pushing Hillary aside in favor of the do-nothing incompetent who now holds the office. We traded down when we chose the massively inexperienced Obama because he is bl*ack, and because our nation’s electorate is rac*ist. Rac*ism cost Hillary her office. Too bad, now we won’t ever have a chance to see what she could do. Sorry Hill.
1EqualityUSA
o.codone, these are the comments I like to read after the election. Romney commenters would wax poetic about their pet, so sure that they were right.