A Washington state florist says she may lose her business and her home after being ordered to pay a $1,000 fine, plus $1 in court fees, for violating Washington’s anti-discrimination and consumer protection laws when she refused to sell two grooms a bouquet of flowers for their wedding back in 2013.
Arlene’s Flowers and Gifts owner Barronelle Stutzman says the $1,001.00 fine will “financially devastate” her, as it will cause her to dip into her “retirement and personal savings,” and that’s simply not fair because she is a “70-year-old grandmother.”
Speaking to the Christian Post, Stutzman said the harsh punishment is a “threat to Christians” with a very specific message: “Surrender your religious liberty and free speech rights, or face personal and professional ruin!”
Again, she is being fined $1,001.00.
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In Feburary, after spending nearly two years fighting in court, Stutzman was offered a settlement from Attorney General Bob Ferguson that wouldn’t have cost her quite so much, but she refused on grounds that settling the case would be a betrayal of Jesus H. Christ.
“I certainly don’t relish the idea of losing my business, my home, and everything else that your lawsuit threatens to take from my family,” Stutzman told Ferguson in a letter. “But my freedom to honor God in doing what I do best is more important.”
Stutzman has 60 days to fork over the $1001.00.
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Washington Florist Won’t Greet Gay Wedding Guests, Even Though No One Asked Her To
Mitch Franks
Well maybe her church could help her
Mike Tracy
Maybe she should move to Indiana where they tolerate this kind of Bullshit
Joe Bump
To Fucking Bad You Fucking Bitch!!!
Matthew Katz
wow she must be a financial genus if $1001 will close her business and force her out on the streets. Maybe she’s better off not being in business if she hasn’t made enough money to cover this minor fine. WHAT A PUTZ!
AJ Sarabia
Move to Indiana
Dwight G Grogan
They just love to play the victim.
Edgar Francisco Estrada
Discrimination has consequences…
Jerry Payney
Serves you right…… How’s that religious freedom working for you? HAHAHA!
Ricky Cavazos
You reap what you sow. Religion is a lifestyle choice and so is being a bigot.
Nick Wood
1001 dollars would put her on the streets? Also, what a strange penalty fee. I find humor in the random one dollar over a thousand.
ingyaom
Why doesn’t she ask Jesus for a loan?
Some bigot will probably pay it for her.
Kristopher Saim
How does doing your job as a business owner, go against the teachings of Christ?!?!? Last I checked Jesus said love everyone. By making a purchase from her flower shop, those grooms were doing nothing more than helping her continue to afford the ability to worship God (because if she is tithing like a good Christian, then 10% of that money they spent would go to the church). If she can’t understand that, she deserves the fine and anything else that happens as a result. If you don’t want to provide service to everyone equally, then don’t get in the service industry. #theend
Robert Joseph Mastronardi
I am sure her fellow bigots will come to her rescue.
James Blakely
I’m sure some nice christian folk would bail her out.
Chris L. Reynolds
Too bad!maybe Jesus will make her a cabin?
Severn Kirchem
I have no pity for you…
Eric Karas
Should have just sold some flowers and not been a bigoted half wit
Tony Lyons
Perhaps next time, she will think of her actions before letting her alligator mouth overload her hummingbird @$$.
Julissa Nunez
This tickles me.
Eric Jimenez
Tell God to help you… According to you, God gave you the right to discriminate …
Lippi Jo
I hear Chick-fil-A in indiana is hiring. Im sure you could be as happy as any bigot could be.
John Morgan-Stock
Quite right too silly misguided woamn
Mark Pilsnik
Homeless.. for a Grand? Have your church bail you out.
Eric Kugler
Maybe she should have thought about this before she discriminated for any reason. I bet she does not lose sleep at night over the hundreds of homeless LGBTQ teens that are kicked out their homes because their parents think like she does. Personally, I would love to discriminate against bigoted idiots that put their beliefs before their fellow man, but I do not do so and the reason I do not is because ALL people are worthy of respect no matter how messed up they are.
Jay D'c R
Burn the whore!
Craig Houghton
Where are all the other Christians patronizing her business in solidarity at? Clearly it’s not really about religion.
Atrius
Petty religious people think they’re above the law. Typical.
John McBroom
This is bull crap. The conservatives are giving her tons of money to use her as a pawn against the lgbt community.
Bill Beaton
Take away the bitch’s 60 day of grace. She deserves severe punishment.
Mike Lundstrom
KARMA BITCH KARMA
Hawg G Wilde
#badplanning
Erin Capuano
Sounds like a job for GOd maybe she should ask him for help.
Demitrius Wolfe
$1,001.00 dollars is going to financially destroy her life?.
If you want to have the freedom to act like a hateful cunt?. Then suck it up bitch and pay the fine.
Scott Schmidt
Thus bitxh just needs ro STFU
Emilio Arredondo
Oh sweet baby jesus. Pay the damn money from your savings. Or the money you would give the church… bitch
Stephen Westwood
Oh, seriously??? FFS. If $1000 is the diff between home, business and livelihood, then she’s been skating on thin ice for a good while now. But hey, let’s blame the gays.!!!
Eric Kristiansen
Equality or nothing
Taskebab
I am a student, I don’t have a job, I spend way too much money and even I could come up with 1000 dollars in 60 days…c’mon gurl, just sell your aging pussy in the alley behind the train station or something, be creative! Do it for jesus!
Nicki Carter
Ask for a payment plan?
Dieter Michaels
she should pray for money….
Donnie Bailey
Good.
Nabil Hajo
If a $1000 dollar fine can make her homeless she must not be that good a florist.
Michael Mohajer
That’s how much a speeding ticket in Cali costs
Rick Zaiser
good
Adam Christopher Phaneuf
She deserves it
Ryan Shannon
LOL Bye Felicia
Glenn Wentzel
It’s God’s will.
Jason Updegraff
is Homophobic Florist an oxymoron??? it would ba a great band name!!
Michael Finnegan
What’s that line about reaping what you sow?
Jimmy Lee
Wonder if she’s asked her lord for a loan?
Ricky Mattingly
i dont fell sorry one bit
Colin Thompson
$1000 fine is only £500 !!
If she’s that broke she shouldn’t have bee turning away good business ð???
What’s happening to Christians ? …… where’s all the love gone ?? ð???
ddean
I hope she loses everything and they stick a cross up her ass.
Kate Carry
Yeah financial ruin….her conscience must be worth as much as her business!
Todd Spaw
So if the belief is that God made everything, then God made the flowers. Do they believe that God designed the flowers only for heterosexual people?
Jimmy Shumsky
Booo wanhhhhhh
onthemark
There must be some church basement she could sleep in after the AA meeting.
Geronimo R Atencio
Well all one’s actions have consequences and maybe she should have thought of those consequences ….
Ethan K. Ellis
What are the chances that the gay community will show her the compassion, she failed to show us, by giving her a check for $1000.00?
Paul Smyth
God is obviously her hero – he won’t let her get anything she don’t deserve cus he is fair and honest and trusting and loving and caring to All and is the epitome of giving to All oh yes and he is right – so what in the good name of God is she worrying about – the bigoted fool!
Creig Stearne
I’m sure her God can find her a house
Philip Epstein
She should not be allowed to cut flowers they are gods creations murderer!!!! Lol
Michael Owen
I guess a contempt of court is in order…increasing the fine.
Phillip Gaskin
Refuse enough people + no customers = out of business.
Jesse Erickson
i honestly have very mixed feelings about this
Travis Zepp
thy will be done
Alex Rothwell
If a thousand and one dollars and one dollar in court costs is going to ruin her then she much not be a very good business person. What is she doing in business anyway if she doesn’t want to provide products and services ? I don’t have any sympathy.
Mauricio Marroquin
I don’t understand why we must sink ourselves to the point of calling her out of her name, or judging her religion. Sure, she may have said some words, or have different views, but that doesn’t give us a right to sink down and attack hatred with hatred.
It upsets me to see how we are quick to judge people who don’t accept us, as we are, yet we do the same within our community. Some of you judge when someone does not believe in our way of living, yet many of you are the first ones to say, “No fats, fems, blacks…” We must fix ourselves before we can tackle other fights.
In this case, this elder woman got herself into a financial situation, which sucks, but she’s from a different time, and may have been raised a different way than we were. It’s okay to disagree with her, or not feel sorry for her, but have some respect. Yes– even when others don’t have it towards you.
Christopher-Aaron Paul Francis Felker
She can’t take out a 1k personal loan? Clip coupons sugar, you can do it!
Eric Michener
If you don’t want to serve the public than don’t own or work for a business that does such. Why is it that so many people don’t understand that concept? If you want to refuse service than leave the service industry and return to the underside of the rock you came from. Kind of funny how many people that preach religious freedom forget the first lessons of their religion in doing onto others as you would do onto you? What would Jesus do? He would embrace all.
Alaska_Dude
The part of the story that Queerty left out here is:
“The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), on behalf of the gay couple, “has asked the court to award them penalties, fees and costs,” said Kristen Waggoner, senior counsel for Alliance Defending Freedom.”
In other words, her out of pocket for all this will likely be well over $1001. As a gay man with a fiance actually living in Washington, I don’t want to see her ruined. She’s had her name and business already dragged through the mud, with a local and national spotlight on her. As much as I don’t care for her actions, I don’t believe her livelihood should be taken away for saying ‘no’ one time. If she doesn’t learn the lesson and keeps doing it, then increase the punishment until she does. Increasingly harsher penalties for continuing to break a law is a common practice and should be applied here.
washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/27/wash-florist-fined-ordered-to-serve-gay-weddings/#ixzz3Vz9WY2jr
Kelly D Winger
What does it matter the occasion for the flowers…that is her business to sell flowers…not sure how God is involved in that transaction.
Laura Meadows
Honestly honey, the gay is not going to wear off on you because you sell someone flowers. Also I hope you have also turned away business from everyone else whom you think is sinful. Considering a lot of flowers get sent by apologetic cheating husband’s and boyfriends maybe you need a questionairre to make sure you only sell to those perfectly righteous few.
Giancarlo85
Losing her home and business for a $1,001 fine? Is her business really doing that badly she can’t pay a fine? She is in business to the serve public. She doesn’t have to condone anything by giving flowers to a certain couple. What if she said she didn’t want to serve black people? Would people still sugarcoat it over? Even some sugarcoating on this site.
Alaska Dude, never cite Washington Times please. That site is ridiculous and inaccurate.
Daniel Ryan Varnado
Hang her!!!
Ron-Paul Henry
She shouldn’t be in business to begin with
Vick Salmeron
You’re the business owner and paying a $1000 fine makes you lose your house ? Then you suck at running your own business !
Mark J McWilliams
It boggles my mind that people aren’t grateful for the business! She’d rather go broke than serve a couple of guys who love each other. She should be praying for brains!!
Robert Mckelroy
Just a idea, but maybe instead of being just as hateful as her and her beliefs, someone should start a go fund. Don’t let her beliefs affect our morality. #equality #love #idea
Brian Akey
The part of the story that Queerty left out here is:
â??The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), on behalf of the gay couple, â??has asked the court to award them penalties, fees and costs,â? said Kristen Waggoner, senior counsel for Alliance Defending Freedom.â?
In other words, her out of pocket for all this will likely be well over $1001. As a gay man with a fiance actually living in Washington, I donâ??t want to see her ruined. Sheâ??s had her name and business already dragged through the mud, with a local and national spotlight on her. As much as I donâ??t care for her actions, I donâ??t believe her livelihood should be taken away for saying â??noâ?? one time. If she doesnâ??t learn the lesson and keeps doing it, then increase the punishment until she does. Increasingly harsher penalties for continuing to break a law is a common practice and should be applied here.
washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/27/wash-florist-fined-ordered-to-serve-gay-weddings/#ixzz3Vz9WY2jr
NE Estes
Jim Leahy
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Arlenes-Flowers/179760432044760
Victor Barry
Clearly, gay hair dressers have been withholding their services. Touche.
Michael McCarthy
Next time think of the consequences of you action!
Andrew Gonzales
I’m glad she is willing to sacrifice everything for her beliefs. If you’re going to be a bigot. Then be proud and claim it. Go live on the streets because God told you to deny flowers to the homosexuals!! She’s a modern day Joan of Arc.
Michael Haynes
Her flower shop must not do that much business in order for her to fear homelessness..
David Red
Sounds like she was pretty much done anyway if she can’t swing $1001 . . . .
Richard Dennis Sanders-Ferriera
Remember who Jesus is. He hung with thieves and prostitutes. He would have given the flowers. Grandma, you need to practice a little unconditional love.
Steve Rosenberger
Does her church do homeless outreach?
Stephen Meeks
If a mere $1,001 would make her homeless, she’s not much of business woman….but then I guess that was already obvious from her actions.
Nick Jackson
Honestly, can a florist really afford to deny any customer?
Antonio Time
Homeless after Being fined with $1001?
Jeff Cook
Karma…
Paul David Liehr
There are any number of tent communities on the streets of L A at which she might be welcomed . . .
Chris Rispoli
BITCH PLEASE! If $1001 is going to devastate this bigoted bitch that once again is blaming her bigotry on baby Jesus, then she isn’t that good a florist in the first place. Just another “Christian” lying to justify her tunnel vision and in ability to live with and get along with others. Now my clits all in a clatter! Don’t get me going. My pedestal is getting worn out I stand on it so much lately!!!! Why can’t people just mind there business and stop causing problems for NOTHING that will ever affect them.
James Benjamin
a $1000 fine will make her homeless? She didn’t have much to stand on. She could sleep in gardens.
Barry Shatswell
She made the choice to violate the state law. The issue of how she atones, is her business and fairness has absolutely nothing to do with it. It was her choice and she should accept accountability instead of blaming her God.
Steve Rosenberger
#CryMeARiver
Christian Wells
What a complete idiot.
George Jesse Brooks Jr
That’s god slapping her in the face telling her not to discriminate
Heath Timm
Must have been a shitty florist…
Tony Lee Churchill
Welllll, tisk-tisk..
Steve Oleszczuk
If a $1001 fine is going to make her homeless then she is doing something else wrong, beside turning away buisness.
Craig Graham
Boo Hoo…she has to dip in her savings and retirement? So she’s just full of crap? Hate cost you more than friends and family.
Ralph Vendegna
Maybe her Christian Friends can help her. Hope this teaches her to stop being a bigot.
Milk
Why? Jeebus is your saviour why worry. Poverty is immaterial when you got god on your side. That’s what faith is about isn’t it? For a thousand dollars she seems to cry pain too soon. Not so faithful to her all mighty god after all.
William Thomas Loesch III
I’m sure one of the charities for abandoned gay children would be glad to help…as long as she doesn’t molest the kids.
rickhfx
She has a fear that what she wishes and supportes on LGBT people might just happen to her. She should look up the words equality and bigot. It might help if she informed her self on what religion has done to our community in the way of savage bigotry for over 2000 years and maybe come to an understanding that descent people don’t support hate. It sucks when you get called out and have to face the consequences.
Orvis Kean
No, I am sure the Republicans have an emergency fund set up for these types of instances! If not, maybe next time you can sell to everyone because we are all human beings that don’t need you criticism.
Daniel Alvarado
oh come on thats not alot of money for someone with their own business
Chuck Stevenson
Oh how the mighty have fallen.
Matthew Luke Barnes
Good. Learn to keep your mouth and beliefs to your ignorant self. Ask your church for help that has brainwashed you.
Brian In WA
@Giancarlo85: The same thing is being reported elsewhere.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/30/barronelle-stutzman-fined_n_6971122.html
Mike Gerard
WOW, here we go. This world is moving to such a sad place, guess that’s what happens when extremist run the show. Such nonsense.
James McWhorter
What goes around comes around!
Gene Rac
Like that’s going to break her should have thought of the consequences
Frank Sturzl
Maybe she could make the $1001 by providing flowers to a gay wedding. Just sayin’.
Anthony Hamilton
Directly from the article: “In Feburary, after spending nearly two years fighting in court, Stutzman was offered a settlement from Attorney General Bob Ferguson that wouldnâ??t have cost her quite so much, but she refused on grounds that doing so would be a betrayal of Jesus H. Christ.” I was raised in church and went to a private Lutheran school. When did Jesus get a middle initial???
Randy Grieb
Karma Is A Bitch
Eloweez Rainbowz
Guess u should have tried to b nice to a entire group of consumers!! Come on we gays love flowers! Maybe if u were not hateful ur business and home wouldn’t b gone because of $1001 fine
Kevin Anderson-Garrity
Good you thought your bigotry would not come with a cost now your livelihood is on the like ain’t karma wonderful.
Bryan Zink
Oh jeez $1,000? Cry me a river. Blah
Bryan Conti
to every action…an equal and opposite reaction…maybe her fellow bigots will bail her out.
Ed Sena
Seth Thomas Howell
Sorry, mindless bigot.
musctop
Boo hoo. How many in the LGBT community lost their jobs, their homes and even their lives because of religion? Go ahead and cry, but you’re paying that fine.
Jeffrey Ewell
Byeeeeeeee
jimstoic
There’s a GoFundMe page that’s already raised nearly $22K for her. She’ll survive.
http://www.gofundme.com/mz6zm4
Zachary Andrew Griffin
$1000 isn’t really a lot of money, sounds like she got off pretty easy.
Frank A. Juarbe
If she is that close to bankruptcy, obviously her business intelligence is spot on!
Jimmy Gee
God bless the stunned twat! Amen
Rodney Jay Hargrove
Don’t the law then, she’s a thug and deserves what she got.
Ron Maniscalco
Go pedal your flowers in Indiana biatch, because we don’t want them!!! 🙂
J Robert Hogg
Join the many homeless LGBTQ youth and learn from them….douche canoe
Jay Bryan Leffew
Boo Hoo
Gregory McDaniel
There are many LGBT teens who are homeless after being kicked out of their homes. So, what goes around comes around. I guess it is her turn now.
Nick Porter
But 1000? She might not be a savvy business owner
Zerius Wolfhart
I would feel sorry, but bigotry and religion are lifestyle choices. You make the bed and now you get to sleep in it
Tina Roach
Like minded bigots will pay her fine. She will be all right
Billy J Griffin Jr.
There’s a special place in HELL for her i’m sure. But until then it’s tent city bitch. LOL
Jim Orr
Live by your convictions!!!!
Patrick Laney
Boo hoo…
Ward Dustin
70? It’s time to retire anyway.
Jack Anthony Owen
What goes around comes around twice as worse:-)
Brad Trullinger
I’m pretty sure the original flower order from our fellow gay guys was way above this minor $1,000 fine. This is just silliness, and is an example of what goes around comes around.
Dave Hughes
Maybe she could bake some homophobic cakes in her spare time for extra coin.
Pita Jim
She should get to gether and have a bake and flower sale with all those bigot s
Garry E Reimer
BOO FUCKING HOO !!! Careful what you ask for…you may not like what you get !!!
Tommy Chappell
Krama is a Bitch!
Rick Caffey
Maybe you can find religious help…it’s called karma bitch
Richard Dib
Hahaha ..$1001???
Luis Diaz
Karma is a bitch!!!!!!
Frank Fita
Good On Her!!
Danny Quinones
Maybe Gods telling you something.. and your not listening
Eric Ziegler
Well, I was fired for being Gay once in my life and almost lost everything. Now that was discrimination.
Eric M. Kittel
Who cares? Every action has a reaction and a consequence. Karma wins again
Anthony Myers
The free market system at work.
Rob Renshaw
A paying customer is a paying customer. Selling the couple flowers isn’t promoting homosexuality and she doesn’t have to go home with them! If a $1,001 fine is going to put her out on the streets, can she really afford to turn away business? If she were to embrace the gay community, she’d have more business than she could handle.
It always strikes me as funny when I see someone â??standing up for their beliefs (or rights)â? to infringe on someone elseâ??s rights, only to cry foul when the tide turns against them. Karmaâ??s a bitch.
BTWâ?¦ is Jesus’ middle initial really “H”? I always understood “Jesus H Christ” to be a form of swearing… something I wouldn’t expect from a good Christian woman.
Thomas R. Dorsey-Payton
James Belmont
She has Dutch boy fingers.
Johnathan-Perry O'Brien
girl have compassion for glbt
Kenneth Hister
Maybe that’s God’s punishment for being a bitch…
Johnathan-Perry O'Brien
Love it reap what u sow
fpcinnyc
I will pay the fine for her if she agrees to shut up and never talk about this again!
Anthony Howard
So it sounds like she made a poor business decision!
Troy Herman-Cordova
Sweetie, if $1,001.00 US dollars will make you homeless, you have far bigger issues than refusing a legitimate customer. Evidently your business is not on strong financial ground. Might want to work on that and less time pretending to be a Christian.
Cam
@Brian Akey:
Nice try troll.
1st. you claim that she would be ruined for “Saying no one time” then you link to an article in one of the most conservative papers in the country.
No, she didn’t “Say No”. She illegally broke the law applying to businesses when she discriminated against an entire group of people, and said that she would continue to do so.
Dalton Easter III
Vagina neck
Don Rowe
I’m gonna’ risk the karmic expense when I say that I hope the old thunderkunt loses every material possession she owns and ends up living in an old Chevy van down by the river where she can praise Jesus and give glory to her god.
J.r. Graff
Hey, she’s the one choosing hate, so …
Darryl Cummings
Karma is a bitch. And too think she could have profited selling to two gay men.
Bill Scheetz
Grant Guenther
well if that’s what the lord wants for her then that’s Gods will. That is between her and God.
Antoney Baccas
BITCZh
Chale Pon
She’s a closet case.
Hector Matamoros
Keep it real, keep simple sweetie, next time think like a business owner and you won’t have this kind of complications
John A. Savage
See where hate got you in the name of religion. Love one another as you love yourself.
teddy55
Hu? There is a gofundme page set up for her that has raised over 20 thousand dollars…
Bob Birdsell
Then perhaps you should not have been a bigot! And we are supposed to care. Koch Brothers paid your legal bills anyways!
Brad Olson
God will still be there when you’re homeless
John Bernthal
Sounds like she should pray about it
Todd Hamilton
If you can’t do the time ( or fine ) don’t do the crime.
Jon Brookshire
If everything is part of “God’s plan,” as most Christians say, then this is part of his plan too. I bet she praised Jesus when she was able to open that business, and praised Jesus that she was able to make a living. Why not praise Jesus for the fine as well??? That’s what makes the least sense to me.
Tom Belkowski
The price for bigotry. Because, God never said, “Thou shalt not arrange flowers for homosexuals…”
Jeff Lewis
GOOD ONE Lippi Jo
William Thomas Bramlett II
Maybe you should of just made the damn cake huh?
Eric Herb
And they call us drama queens. If her business can’t afford $1001.00 then she already had problems.
Giancarlo85
@Brian Akey: Washington Times is false and a verbal diarrhea website. It is funded by the Moonies…
Carl Szulczynski
If she’s that close to homelessness she should start growing vegetables instead. Haters gonna suck.
Kamal Patel
God works in mysterious ways 😀
Dannielle Elizabeth Guerra
Alexander R. Rodriguez
Evil Gay Leftists. Wanting homeless grandmothers. Fucking pigs
Hoyt Havel
dumb bitch should should pay dearly for her ignorance…funniest/ yet most fitting
Brent Alan Burington
Maybe she should have thought of that before refusing to sell flowers to a pair of customers.
Max Gregg Jr.
Poor thing. Not
R Adrian Ruiz
GOOD….Bigotry in any form should not be tolerated. She’s running a business not a “church.”
Ronnie Denny
Maybe you should of sold that Bouquet after all
Daniel Sullivan
maybe her girlfriend can go back in the construction business
jjose712
Well, if 1000$ are such a problem she is screwed anyway which is not surprising giving how stupid she is
Kathy B. Munson
Bitch.
TomOH
The gay couple probably thought she was a lesbian and figured they were helping out local LGBTQ businesses by trying to hire her. I mean, look at her…
That’s bullshit she’s going to be homeless after $1,000. She playing the typical christian victim card to bamboozle some money and sympathy from others.
Brian Bonsteel
She could have chosen to do business with the gay guys, let them recommend her to other gay guys and made millions. Ahh the choices we make. My florist knows me very well.
Pat Dore
Maybe she could move to Indiana
Donald L Rager
Idiot
Donald L Rager
Put her in a home
Tommy Gaige
This is an old story, she raised over 21,000 on her go fundme page. Sickening.
Jeffrey Hugh Johnson
She sure she isn’t lesbian
Transiteer
Can’t be much of a Florist or Businesswoman if $1001.00 is enough to lose your business and your house. Sounds like she’s a big prima dona Liar as well as being a Bigot. For being both or either, she should lose her business and home. Live on the street and hold to your “principles”. Prickly Cow.
Stan Forrest
She looks like a 70 year old “Snatch Eater” herself. She is saying that because she knows someone will pay it for her.
Patrick Parker-Sperry
if this causes that then she cant be much of a business person to begin with..
Tammy Rs Surly Manson
If coming up with $1001.00 in 60 days is going to cause her to lose her business and her home she must be a lousy business person. Bigotry costs money. And it’s people like her that make Christians look like ignorant idiots
Jeff Eiselman
I got a tent I’ll rent her. $50 a night.
Brandon Lee Artkowsky
People are rediculous I hope she loses everything, it wil be due to her own stupidity
Sylvain Lamanque
Good for her! May she also go a little hungry!
Tommy Anderson
LMAO!
Brent Ballard
Well then stop being a stupid bigot!
Todd Raymond Krout
If she does become homeless (which I highly doubt will happen), I hope others will show her true religion and Jesus teaching by clothing, feeding and sheltering her….perhaps then she will learn something!! But I doubt it. On a side note, I really don’t see how a thousand dollar fine could “ruin her”, but if it does, you reap what you sow.
Brian Northcutt
Of course underneath this facebook post on my page is a related link for a go fund me account to support this bigot. Way to go facebook.
Chip Byas-Ortega
Hope a gay buys her business. And where is her religious faction to bail her out. U hate u lose.
Danny Severino
Bitch deserved it 🙂 justice
David Lyle Jones-Munoz
Really! A 1001 fine would cause homelessness? She should ask her good CHRISTIANS for help…
Robert Hepner
A bigot and apparently a really good business woman. Hope the lord finds her a nice cardboard box to live in!
Demitrius Wolfe
Serves her right. She wants the freedom to be a hateful cunt. She can pay the price.
Danny Severino
And honestly she looks like one of those women pedophiles
Wes Coffman
If she accepted the job she would have been paid more, Im sure
Dane Bigner
Where is the tolerance?
Lenny Daigle
Already has $22,000 on Go Fund Me. She is clever!
Wes Adams
She has a man face.
Helen Diaz-Welder
I think this homophobe is in the closet…
Sandi Rousseau
Karma
Alan David
Business must suck , she has to already be in heave debt !!
Edward Dixon
Reap what you sow, BITCH!!!!!!
John Meckem
I am all for her exorcising her religious freedoms. I get that. As a gay man, I get that.
But….God will not let you fall if you are without sin.
He will not let your house fall, he will not let you lose your business.
And honestly….1001.00 is NOT going to break anyone. Governments do allow payments based on income for fines. Be realistic here.
Play the game if you want to. But be real about it too. 1001.00 is not going to pop a successful business
It is not going to cost you your home
And it certainly can be worked into payments with the government just like EVERY OTHER FINE LEVIED.
Ttrotski
Apparently her deeply held religious beliefs don’t prevent her from lying. Most courts will mitigate fines in cases of financial hardship and will also commute a fine to time in jail but you know how hard nosed and unyielding those Law-and-Order types in the State of Washington can be.
George Stone
Well, that’s the price you pay for being self-employed. I can’t imagine the legal fees that has been racked up over this. Pay the money bitch. I am quite certain it is not going to devastate your life.
Steven Za
you ARE the WEAKEST Link! Goodbye!
Taylor Cunningham
Okay, good. Since God is so good, you should expect him to cloth, house, and feed you.
Heather Fuglevik
Tough
Scott Sherman
seem like the 21k raised on gofundme should cover that..http://www.gofundme.com/mz6zm4
DarkZephyr
@Brian Akey: Well I am also from Washington and have been closely following this whole case. This woman has been BEYOND obstinate in her continued hatred of LGBT people and she was given chance after chance. You should know this. She broke the law and she did something despicable and we CANNOT allow it to stand because this would then become a dangerous precedence. Since she felt so utterly compelled to continue to be a hateful bitch, she is getting exactly what she deserves AND the punishment that she MUST receive.
David Robins
Playing the persecuted Christian? No, your actions have consequences
Ttrotski
BTW you know she cannot be too bright a businesswoman, she’s a florist and refusing service to GAY MEN?!?!?!!!!!
Mark Wagstaff
Jonathan Frost
Pride comes before a fall, $1k isn’t really enough.
scottvegas
She has raised 21 thousand dollars on gofundme so she isn’t starving…http://www.gofundme.com/mz6zm4
Thomas C. Graham
She will just start a GoFundMe campaign and the bigots will rally around and pay the fines and probably send her on vacation to gay hating Jamaica.
Elizabeth Rodriguez
If $1,000 means loss of your business and home you are a lousy business person. Though I have a feeling she isn’t being truthful.
Tom Hill
She’s crying foul to pander to her demographic and fan the flames of the anti-gay movement. No small business owner is going to be in danger of going under from a $1001 fine, unless they were already drowning in their own financial ineptitude.
So, what we’re basically seeing is the usual Christian Conservative response to their perceived “woes and slights”…. Blame the gays.
DarkZephyr
@scottvegas: And this is why I am GLAD the gay couple and the ACLU is seeking more money from her. They are probably well aware of this go fund me money and she does NOT deserve this money AT ALL.
Mitch Sandusky
Margie and Terry
Gerald Myers
This is her profession. There is nothing stopping her from being professional. My heart pumps piss for her.
Dino Diamantakos
Typical “playing the victim” card. Whatever…break out the violins. :/
Johnathan Stout
Good riddance.
Rich Penway
oh, boo f’ing hoo
Anthony Correnti
What, is she afraid she’s going to be a habitual offender???
Rob Munger
She’s working it with a gofundme begathon …
Roberta Siegel Levine
Stop being homophobic and you might survive
Daniel Ryan Varnado
Hang her
Eric Kamm
the average florist spends more than that every month just on flowers. If her business model is that tight, she deserves to fail.
polarisfashion
I wonder how her business is doing now? Are conservatives showing up in droves to buy flowers from her or are more people boycotting her business?
Rich Penway
dang,,I wish I had thought to set up a gofundme drive for $$ to help her,,,then give it all to LGBT causes
Michael Sullivan
Let’s hold her to that closing part!
Justin Puhler
Must be a shitty florist if $1001 fine puts you on the street ð??? go to Indiana!
Mike Thomas
She made $21,000 on GoFundMe to cover this debt … So many haters rushed to her side – it’s really scary to think how many people are still adamantly against us
Gregg Squeaky Taylor
You ARE NOT the father!
Tony Godorecci
Karma, Bitch!
Philip Madruga
My Bullshit Detector just redlined.
Daniel Halvorsen
Self-Hate by the looks of her pic
Steven Bell
This is bullsh!t. $1001.00 will bankrupt her business? Maybe she don’t need to be in business if that amount will bankrupt her.
Shelby Moore
Wow….just…wow…Not only did she come up with the money, but she got well over it now. I guess that’s the trick to success, be a complete bigot and blame it on Jesus. http://www.gofundme.com/mz6zm4
Matthew Munson
Can someone pay her fine so she can shut up.
Stuart Nemerov
If she’s that broke, maybe she should have accepted their business…
Terry Burch
And another weak link rises from under their rock! Poor, poor, pitiful her……NOT IN THIS LIFETIME! I don’t feel sorry for anyone who discriminates against anyone! You don’t have to agree with their political views, religion or morals in order to do business with them.
Kyle House
Sounds like a melodramatic leach than a business person in my opinion. If her margin is that small then she does not deserve to be in business. But since the truth is she lost a legal battle as well as a moral one and refuses to honor the result as it makes her look like the bigot she truly is then to freaking bad for her. Hope she likes what Karma hands her now.
Charles Jenkins
It’s gods plan..pray on it!
Roger Honeycutt
Sleep in your car bitch your god didn’t help you did he. You reap what you sew
Colm O'Sullibhan
God will provide!
Owen Lovejoy
If a $1001 dollar fine will bankrupt your business, maybe you shouldn’t be turning customers away!
Markus Goodallus
You would think she’d be quite cozy living under a rock…
John P Farinhas
She is full of crap
Susan Gerber
Obviously she’s gotten away with being a bigot for too many years!
Eugene Rericha
A $1000; that comes to 10 bunches of rose at Valentines day .. lying hypocrite
Jim White
If you were to read all four gospels thoroughly in search of Jesusâ?? teachings on homosexuality it would be a futile endeavor. Not only would you come to the end of the gospels without finding anything attributed to Jesus on the subject, you wouldnâ??t even find a single reference to the issue in any context.
In fact, there are only a handful of references to homosexuality in the entire Bible, but they are found in the Old Testament and Paulâ??s writings. (To put it in perspective, while there are only seven references to homosexuality, there are hundreds, perhaps thousands, of references to economic justice and the laws governing the accumulation and distribution of wealth.)
Jesusâ?? silence on the subject suggests that an issue which can be controversial and/or fraught with emotion these days was simply not a central issue in his lifetime 2,000 years ago in the land of Palestine. The fact that he didnâ??t address this issue leaves us all to ponder what he might say were he here today.
William Brogan
u deserve it b*tch!
Errol Semple
Cost of bigotry.
Jim White
Jesus never refused to serve anyone.
Not the leper. Not the hemorrhaging woman
Not the woman at the well who had been married five times
Not the Gentiles who didnâ??t keep the Jewish laws
Not the hungry. Not the blind.
So who are YOU to refuse to serve anyone?
John Gregory-Bratton
Awww so sad another bigot could be homeless and have her life changed and right taken away…….doesn’t feel good does it love???????
Ron Berry
Do I smell karma
o.codone
Read these posts ^ above, and count the haters. aren’t we gay people supposed to reach out to others, tolerate opposing views, accept others views b/c they have a right to their own beliefs? i know that queerty wants to call out haters, but look at your subscribers ^ above, these people are serious haters. some real problems with gay men’s politics, gay men are haters calling out others for being haters. let’s take our own inventory first. this is a real problem for me. how can I be a part of a political group who is just full of hate and criticism for opposing views. do we need to trash everyone, always who has a different opinion? it’s just ugly. it needs to stop. we are ruining our own credibility with our political views. somebody sort this out please.
Paul Limandri
A $1000 fine and she loses her family, her house, yadda yadda yadda homophobic b*tch how does that feel?
Gregg C Lutz
Worship your god how you choose. Business is business. Your god has no place in the matter. Doesn’t matter if you support gay marriage or not. You don’t have to go. I feel you can say you don’t support and explain why but I don’t think you should turn away based on that. Where is your god now
Katherine Pierce
What a stubborn goofball
Jeri Westerson
Bigotry has its costs.
Kenneth Burk
Boo fuckin’ hoo.
Jeri Westerson
Wait. Then there’s this. Her GoFundMe account. http://www.gofundme.com/mz6zm4
Gregg C Lutz
We should all send her like $5
Russell J Lines-Jobling
Not sure I will lose any sleep over a bigot.
TomMc
No true Christian would attempt, or facilitate, a stunt like this during Holy Week.
Shaggey Odell
the only help she needs to understand the word of God not HER interpretation of it I hope she goes penny less
CamCam Mac
maybe she needs to learn the real lessons of her faith to love her neighbor and not judge less she be judged.
CodyJ
ADF and AFA are cashing in on this.She jus the dumb pawn….perhaps its best for her to return to running her wurst stand in Dusseldorf Am Main
Buckin
As a business owner and a gay man, the reactions from the gay community chaps my hide. Should a business turn down clients strictly on their sexuality? No. But why on earth do you want to force your business on someone that doesn’t really care for it? I get the ideal but ideals in reality don’t happen overnite. How many businesses are willing to take it instead? Hell, you through such a stink about crap, why aren’t you using gay businesses? And then sue for ridiculous amounts over being offended? Some people, gay or straight need to look at how they conduct themselves in public.
I may be gay but it don’t belong anywhere in my business. The clients that I’ve had that were gay were handfuls for the profits earned. Not worth it by comparison to the straight “Christians” I’ve dealt with. Not kidding, one gay couple required 15 signed change orders for ONE piece of furniture. I could have built 6 handbuilt sofa in all that time wasted and of course they didn’t want to pay more because I was deigned with their business. Should I have the right to say no when this is the level of intelligence I dealt with? The comments made in front of me by gay clients to test the waters just annoys me. I actually had a gay designer say he was looking for that perfect shade of “come fuck me green” in front of an older woman that works for me. Do you find that remotely professional? Then I have to answer for the poor behavior of this guy. Do you think my employee was impressed with his bs? Why would she want to be around him?
Heck, knew a guy that had a drag shop. Amazing the number of female impersonators that wanted to ‘borrow’ something from him but never bought…but then whined when he shut his doors. Hhmmm. Also knew a gay coffee shop owner that held a gay night but learned the guys came in to cruise but wouldn’t even buy a lousy cup of coffee so he stopped it.
Face the reality, gay marriage ain’t gonna be accepted by everyone and the discrimination that happens in our own community is a joke. You’ve got 50 different labels for gay bears and then you break into all the other subgroups. Why me and my partner stay out of all the drama.
Keep in mind how you demand tolerance but then never give it. If you want respect, act respectfully. When you demand respect while acting poorly, you look as bad a the people you are demanding it from.
teddy55
@Buckin: Dude you have you own kind of special homophobia going on there. Glad you and your “partner” stay out of all the drama though.
Juan Irizarry
Wow, her business must not be all that profitable if paying a measley 1K is going to put her out of business and force her out into the streets! lol
Thomas Kyle
#karma
Robert Queen
What a backward women this is !!
Michael H. Murphy
Since she is not a christian, as demonstrated by her action, her argument is moot.
Tim Harbaugh
Instead of hiring a lawyer for this case perhaps she should have hired an accountant. And seriously, if that’s all it’s takes to put her business under what were good meaning gays doing purveying such an untalented florist?
Korree Johnson
Karma’s a bitch.
Nico van Zyl
U should have thought about that earlier, stupid fcking bigot bible puncher
Julian Rogers
I was a florist for 24+ years and if $1001 will leave you homeless, you are one sh*tty florist.
Billy Raymond
Joe Brief
How can a $1001 fine bankrupt you? Does she Need to take out a mortgage on her house for this? What a Fucktard…Lol.
Giancarlo85
@Buckin: Why would we force certain business owners who don’t want to serve blacks to serve them? Your logic is screwed up. Sorry to say. Do you realize how ridiculosu you sound?
She is there to serve the public. You are making excuses and that is all you’re doing. She needs to respect the law or find a different state to do business in. Just that simple.
Dave Yanchuk
She has had the wrong accountant helping her I guess all these if 1001.00 makes her homeless. I can’t believe these people
Val Schaeffer
She looks kinda lesbian to me…
Giancarlo85
@o.codone: Oh go cry me a river. You post this crap all the time. Stop accusing others of being haters on here. This lady raised $21,000. So this reason she gave was a flat out lie. Who is pushing out hate for anyone here? She is being criticized for being a liar. I have a big problem with right wing sleazebags. Nobody’s credibility is being ruined except this lying business owner who isn’t very Christian to begin with.
David Goines May
oh well
Colin Rose
Ohhh boo boo….move to Indiana where you will be more comfortable with other bigots
James William Lambert
There is a GoFundMe page for this woman with 22K, bitch is gonna be fine.
Giancarlo85
She’s a lying swindler who has already raised $21,000 from the pockets of gullible losers (some of these losers post on here talking about how sad the “whole situation” is lol).
Matthew Gordon
Never thought I would see the words “florist” and “anti-homosexual” in the same sentence.
Michael Sullivan
May God go with her and save her soul from hell
Javier Rodriguez Fontanez
She needs to get laid, with that look on her face she looks like she hasn’t gotten any in a long time.
Michael Pierson
If a $1,001 fine is going to cause you to loose your home then you most certainly shouldn’t be turning away any customers no matter who they are. This idiot shouldn’t own a business if she can’t figure that out.
Dakotahgeo
Personally, Ms. Clementine Buttwipe Baronellie should be thanking her lucky stars she wasn’t bitch-slapped into eternity by all this infernal bickering about her business losses. She’s got to be an awfully poor businesswoman if she can’t pay a fine that low. Also, Jesus Christ is NOT moved by her glorifying moves to make him look bad!
Alan Landrum
Desert Boy
This old heffa could relocate to Indiana or Texas.
Ernest Hernandez
Obviously she is a bigot and a poor financial planner if $1000 is putting her on the streets . Maybe she should have thought about her actions
Michael Martinez
Hatred has its price. Just because you feel comfortable hating others, doesn’t mean their will be no consequences for your bigotry.
Mark Powledge
Boo hoo.. Get a box and move in.
Jeffrey C. Dodd
Awwww….bless her little heart.
Jack Peacock
A bigot, a fool and an incompetent business person person. Three time loser.
Feyverte
As long as people are in the giving mood, here are some great gofundme campaigns to support for a) people that could really use it and b) places that actually benefit the whole community!
http://www.gofundme.com/dqjykk and http://www.gofundme.com/Dreamhaven
bearishcub
I had no idea that Jesus had a middle initial What’s the H for?
jwtraveler
WOW! 500 comments. Nothing riles up the queers like flowers.
Paul Higdon-Smith
WHAT WOULD JESUS DO ????? i bet NOT what you did
Billy Budd
She is just trying to get donations. Pretending to be broke. She is a bitch from hell.
Rick Huitt
So much for people having their on opinions guess if you don’t have the same opinion as the people complaining you must be wrong… But what makes the complainers right
Giancarlo85
Wtf is going on with this site? There are sometimes five or six duplicate posts of people that have never posted here before. This is weird. A major technical issue.
Ron Dangerfield
Aparrantly her business wasn’t very good to begin with
Remi Theroux
I don’t believe this crapp
Leslie Crockett
This is not much of a fine for a supposedly successful business person. Sounds like she’s trying to turn herself into the victim. It’s a common ploy.
pross
Arlene’s Flowers
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Arlenes-Flowers/179760432044760?fref=ts
Robert B K Dewar
Definitely NOT someone to feel sorry for!
pross
@jwtraveler: Not Flowers, discrimination!
o.codone
@Giancarlo85: queerty has major technical issues. they are busy buying their PrEP with the proceeds from the site, so there’s no $ to upgrade. now, back to your comments and your response to my previous post. you need to get out more boy. the world is not all about you. *smiley face*.
o.codone
@o.codone: @Giancarlo85: give it away boy, while you’re young. take that azz out and get it done. feel good. be happy. *smiley face*.
Robert Young
Pray to God for help….. Lol
Raymond Houston Bridges
All she needed to do was to apologize for being over-booked, and refer the potential customer to someone else. Instead, she chose to humiliate the customer. That is the reason anti discrimination laws exist. Everyone always retains the right to refuse service to anyone–just don’t be as ass about it.
Giancarlo85
@o.codone: You’re the one who needs to get out and open your eyes a little bit more. And where did I say this world is not all about me? You seem to be suffering from major delusions of grandeur. You have some serious mental issues.
Giancarlo85
@o.codone: it’s funny how you criticized other gay people… when your own posts are a fucking disaster.
Giancarlo85
@Giancarlo85: *Correction: all about me lol.
By the way, if you’ve seen the world like I have seen it… your eyes would be opened. I’m someone with limited resources and am an immigrant. A gay latino immigrant. So right wing mental case like you can’t stand me. I’m an assault on your world views.
Robert Charles Raglin II
You have the religious freedom to make that decision, now live with the decision. SMH.
Joe Janus
When she got her business license she agreed to serve the public. She should shut up and do what she agreed to. Period.
Mike Reynolds
Just imagine if she had to build her own roads and pay for private cops to avoid using them nasty gay dollars muddled in tax dollars that support her business. I suspect it is way more than $1000 to pave sidewalks and run the stop lights that her customers and suppliers use too.
Mike Lowden
Maybe Jesus will feed the stupid cunt!
Jimmy Boyer
shes gotten 22k in her gofundme campaign. :face palm:
Matthew Alan Davis
Ha ha ha!
Alec Braithwaite
How would she feel if the Good Samaritan that crossed the road to help her was gay?
Misael Suarez
Sean Bryan McGuire
Idiot
Virginia Mckay
Gays have all the rights just ask them.
Raymond Lyonnais
Is this a joke or a hoax … this is just discrimination plain and simple !
sweetbrandigirl2004
Quote Kristen Waggoner of the Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), who was part of the team representing Stutzman. She argued that the imposed fine plus additional penalties, fees and costs will “financially devastate Barronelle’s business and personal assets — including taking this 70-year old grandmother’s retirement and personal savings.”
I guess she should have thought about that before she shot off her mouth and decided of her own free will to deny flowers to a gay couple. Decisions have consiquinces and Bigotry has a cost suck it up pay the fine.
Blake Baines
I dont believe this for a second! I live from paycheck to paycheck myself, without a business, $1000.00 would set me back, and it has, but I would still make it without being homeless!
Shirley Largent-Bly
God Bless this Lady, she has rights too.
Adrian Robinson
Wow karma works quickly and wow you must not be that good of a florist if 1001 dollars made you bankrupt
Rita Williams
Who are these people…yuck!
Rita Williams
You know if you have your own business and you choose to discriminate you best have more than $1001.00 cause the fines will just keep on coming…and no God loving church is going to help her.
Kal Andrews
Awww….too bad. I think I’ll send her some flowers….from a gay florist.
Santiago Santos Jr.
Well since she is so devoted to her church and religion, I will think that her church will help her pay the fine so she won’t be homeless or without business , but how can someone with a business and home etc is going to end homeless for just a 1,001. Dollars ? Lol please , she just want someone to feel pity for her when she demonstrate hate for others that could have been good customers.
D Kevin Keel
She can’t get 1,000? At 70 with her own home and business? She’s a grandmother so she has family. Get a credit card. Ask your church. I cry bullshit
Patrick Johnson
Gay people should raise enough money to keep her in business and make sure she knows it’s us giving it to her.
Just to see the look on her face.
Joshua Beller
Um this bigot has a gofundme page with over 22k raised. Huff post might want to mention that. Article is kind of a joke.
Steve318
I have actually done business with Arlene’s Flowers. We have ordered flowers from Stutzman’s shop for years. She did the flowers for my daughter’s heterosexual wedding which had 2 gay groomsmen, and a lesbian bridesmaid. The wedding was in 2010, before Washington voted to recognize same sex marriages. Had I known she was homophobic I would have chose a different florist. However, her claim that $1001 will ruin her is more BS like her claim that her personal relationship with Christ forbids her from doing flowers for a gay wedding. If she had a personal relationship with Christ she would know that Christ had nada to say about homosexuality. She charged us $900 for the bridal bouquet, the corsages, and the boutonnieres. That was almost enough to pay the fine. Christians are not under attack in Washington State. Christians are free to worship how, where, or what they want. But their worship does not justify discrimination.
Craig Pollock
if $1000 is what is between her and the street…she should have been open to selling the POPE a gun, a condom and a tube of lipstick !
Tom Conway
Poor petal.
Royal D Bush
Not a threat to Christians… The threat is about those who hide their hatred and bigotry in the name of Christainity.
Phil Ashton
O come on! If she’s a business person I can hardly believe that $1,000 is going to bankrupt her! I’m sure she’s done TV interviews on several networks – and has been paid for it. I’m sure she’ll get offers of help from various legal people. No, she’s just wanting to use this to make a political point. Sorry, but if you CHOOSE to be a customer based business, then you cannot choose who you are going to serve/sell to – black, white, male, female, gay, straight, Christian, Muslim or atheist.
Jamal Gregory Baghdadi
$1000? If that closes your business you were already failing…. But hey gay agenda.
DarkZephyr
@o.codone: “aren’t we gay people supposed to reach out to others, tolerate opposing views, accept others views b/c they have a right to their own beliefs?”
No. Where the hell did you get a goofy ass idea like that? No we sure as hell aren’t supposed to “tolerate” viewpoints that deem us as inferior or as second class citizens or as wicked evil sinners that will burn in hell for all eternity. When the LGBT community speaks of “tolerance” they are not ever speaking of giving a free pass to hatred. They are talking about treating classes of people with dignity and respect. That does NOT mean laying down and taking it when it comes to bigotry.
@Buckin: “Hell, you through such a stink about crap, why aren’t you using gay businesses?”
Its illegal in the state of Washington to discriminate based on race, religion, creed, sex, sexual orientation or gender identity. This was voted on by the people of Washington. This is how WE collectively wanted it to be. For her part, she broke the law. The gay couple in question are not the ones who “raised the stink”. They mentioned the incident on facebook and the Washington Attorney General happened to see it. HE raised the stink because it is HIS job to do so when someone breaks the law like she did. He was doing his job. The gay couple didn’t become part of a lawsuit until later when the ACLU decided to get involved. AFTER the Attorney General got the ball rolling.
Understand that this is Washington State, NOT Indiana. We don’t take kindly to those who discriminate against LGBT people, even if they blame that discrimination on God. Sorry.
Xae Sanchez
Bitch ask your Jesus H Christ for the $1,001.00.
Tash Burgess Holmes
$1000 dollars is going to make her homeless is it?
Serves the bloody old religious nutcase right!! Ask God for a loan then you silly cow.
Anyone would think they asked for gold, since when is selling flowers to a gay man some religious rule breaker? Will the flowers be offended that they ended up in a gay wedding? Would they have refused to be sold in protest? For Gods Sake it’s FLOWERS, are these people really that THICK?!
ShaunNJ
She’ll be using this as her platform to run for Governor of Indiana
Miguel Rullán
Sad to read the bitterness and hate spewing forth in a vast majority of the posts. How are we supposed to learn and move forward without compassion and forgiveness? We are in real danger of becoming more like the people that have treated us like second class citizens… If we allow that to happen they win.
Marcus Townsend
Perhaps if she’d accepted business from the LGBT Community, her business would be more financially stable…. Just saying.
Belinda Carmichael
I saw a refrigerator box outside before that she could live in. Would fit her and Jebus quite comfortably.
Giancarlo85
@Miguel Rullán: Except that isn’t true. Thus lady was the one spouting off hatred. And she could not follow state law. There is no hatred on here.
Cam
Closet cases are so often such self hating bigots. Just saying, I wouldn’t be surprised if this woman didn’t make it a point to hire attractive young ladies to work for her.
Stephen Looker
Oh FFS you only work in a shop darling you can drop the attitude! Sell some flowers, make money. That’s business! Least ways that’s how we do it in Australia!
Dennis Carter
Ask the preacher who got robbed..I bet he’d help her with his embezzling from his church
Tim Pappalardo
I was for sure she was a Lesbian…
Troy Wanstall
What a ham ! We all know what God dose to liars !!! lol !!!!
Jason Bennett-Hardy
Wow, I’ve been in tough spots before but never $1000 from being homeless.
Douglas Dookie Spence
If a $1001 fine is enough to shut her down as a business, one would think that she would have been glad to have had ANYONE walk into her shop and order even a boquet of buttercups let alone turn down the revenue that could have been generated from doing an entire wedding. Obviously her business was failing before this event happened and now she is just trying to milk the media and “blame the gays” for her bad management/entrepenureal skills which started long before this incident occured.
Jay J. Ross
She couldn’t of had much of a busness if a $1,000 is going to cause her to lose everything she owns.
Christian Asmussen
Advice:
Close the failing flower shop and get into charity work. She is already over $21.000 in profit. This will help her with treatment for dementia.
More importantly I hope the two boys had a wonderful wedding day.
Joseph Cronin
and if she doesnt have 1K in savings to pay it…she is a bad business owner anyways….freaking drama…not like its 100K…..and you cant try to play the pity card and say what you are doing is for God and that it is more important….you made a decision…live with it
1EqualityUSA
where have all the bigots gone…
Giancarlo85
She broke the law. Just that simple. Break the law, pay the fine. I was caught speeding. I had a ticket and paid the fine (and I never speed again as it is not worth it).
All the bigots have disappeared to other articles defending republicans.
o.codone
@Giancarlo85: dude. oh dude. you are on fire dude. you’re posting every 5 minutes, and it sounds like you’re super caffeinated, like you are a barista or something. I am not a republican bigot, I know what latin azz tastes like. So, come on over anytime, just take a valium first please. I’ll show you how it’s done baby.
1EqualityUSA
Giancarlo, long time passing.
Giancarlo85
@o.codone: You are a pretty nasty troll. I post sometimes in the morning and sometimes in the afternoon. That’s about it. Not every five minutes. I think you have some sort of mental problem. Seek some help for that… I am sure you can be a better program if you talk your problems out with a therapist.
Oh and thanks for the offer but I’m not into 60 year old balding fat white guys. That pretty much excludes you doesn’t it?
Giancarlo85
@Giancarlo85: *better person.
Now as you can see, I haven’t had any coffee this morning lol.
Angela Gaudet
Really ?? $1,000 will bankrupt her??? Come in she fought this damn stupid law suit for 2 years it said in the article so how much did she spend in attorney fees n court filing costs??? I’m sure it was way way more than $1,000!! Don’t try to bring Jesus into this conversation as a excuse for your predijustice self. The same God fearing self should read the book???? What about not judging people? Love thy neighbor? Except when he’s or she’s gay?? I have Never read that part!!! How judge mental and ANTI Christian can you be???? Really I do think you need to go home n sit down and think about your short comings before you die n realize how many mistakes you have made in this life!!!
NJjoe
Karma is a bitch and lives right next door to this awful woman.
Michael T. Fletcher
I’m sure all her homophobic Christian friends will help her in her time of need.
Kathukid
What every good Christian wants, to become a martyr.
nwise77
Really? she will lose her business, her house, and become homeless because of $1,001 yet she has a gofundme page that’s raised 23k sounds like its a scam to just get money.. “Oh look at me I’m old, going to be poor, and homeless because I of my faith. Somebody give me money”
Keith Lessner
I have to say….while planning my wedding, I would appreciate someone telling me that they dont approve of my lifestyle or whatever backwoods belief they have so I can go choose another florist. That being said, if she cant afford $1000 regardless what it is for, perhaps she shouldnt be turning any business away.
Craig Baker
i got a shed the cunt can sleep in! 😀
Barry Aneda
Nobody asked you to be gay sweetie, you were asked to do your job. Period
TomMc
@Kathukid: … not unlike other “religious” types 😉
Reason some Christian’s do is their misinterpretation of Mark 5: 10-12. They’re deaf to Jesus’ subtlety, and occasional sense of humour, in ‘The Beatitudes’.
Dave Cernansky
Aww she is a cunt so let her I’ve on the street maybe it will adjust her attitude.dont feel one bit sorry for the CUNT
Raymond Kampf
note the related linksâ?¦ and my slight change
John Zimmer
crying big tears , really over 1001. well give it up to ur God then.
Raymond Kampf
she has a fund raiser on GoFundMeâ?¦. I had to change it
John Smith
Get’s what she deserves.
David Shuford
Well if she is going to loose her business over $1.000.00 dollars she must do some pretty ugly work to begin with, shouldn’t blame it on gays!
David Shuford
Maybe she should hire one.
o.codone
@Giancarlo85: HAHAHAHAHAHHAA. better “program”. nothing to do with coffee, bf, it’s just that you’re so unqualified. and me, as a 60 year old … hell nah baby. try me out. but realize one thing. it’s more than you can take. dare you.
Austin Robinson
Boo fucking hoo.
Austin Robinson
Oh come out of the Closet Already.
Charles Peck
Her business must’ve sucked in the first place for a thousand dollars to ruin her life. I couldn’t give a turkey’s twat if she’s left homeless after this or not. I hope there’s enough room in her sorryassbrokedown gremlin for life to carry on!
TomMc
@TomMc: … and I am, occasionally, blind to Scripture. (Rather, as many of us are, too tired after work.) I meant “Matthew” 5: 10-12.
Whatever the case, I don’t understand why Barronelle Stutzman felt okay about openly hurting gay folks. Why didn’t she just provide a diplomatically-worded denial instead?
Merv
Why is everything double-posted.
Billy Sims
Good u should put ur brain into gear before making comments can’t retract after its been said ur a silly woman u probably had a lot of gay bi lesbian or t.g people as customers before now u will lose them and they’re family and friends . I’ll come and open a florists next door and serve them and let’s see who would survive the longest
Aiden
If a court of law has ordered her to pay any amount of money it means she has done something illegal in the first place, if this was a murder and the killer had to go to prison but that’d ruin his ‘street cred’, it wouldn’t matter. Selling them flowers wouldn’t only have helped her avoid this situation but also give her a bit of extra cash for the next time she’s taken to court.
All the religious families that make their children homeless for being gay don’t have a problem with it then so why now? 🙂
Sluggo2007
She looks a bit butch to me. Maybe there are other underlying issues. Perhaps the only “prick” she ever got was from a thorn.
ilikefruitloops123
I don’t think Jesus complained this much when he was actually crucified. If anyone is doomed to eternal damnation, it’s this whiney lady who is not following any christian principle. like. at all.
NSB2244
So a bigot could lose her business and savings because of her beliefs..all she had to do was sell some flowers..not endorse the wedding..you want to live by your convictions..well they have repercussions sometimes when one of your convictions is hate!
Giancarlo85
@o.codone: I meant to say “person”. And I corrected myself in the next post. I would have edited that post, but that feature isn’t provided on this site. I am far more qualified at anything than you. You’re just a fat loser who has nothing better to do.
Try you out? Sorry, I’m not into old men who try to get young ass all the time. And I’m certainly more hung than you if that is what you’re getting out (duh, I’m Colombian).
So now you’re trying to hit on me about fucking me? You need to get a life.
Giancarlo85
And I’m here to write an essay. I get my point across well enough.
Giancarlo85
@Giancarlo85: *Not here to write an essay. I get my point out well enough.
o.codone
@Giancarlo85: dude, your comments are a shambles. look at them. you have to keep correcting yourself over and over. that’s okay. and yeah, i know all about Colombians. the biggest coc*ks on the planet after Africa and Equador. And far more beautiful than most. you keep saying I am old, and I’m fat. I’m neither. However, your nasty attitude about fat people and old people is the same nastiness that people have about gay people. the hatred comes from the same place. take your own inventory. you’re the same kind of hater as the anti-gay haters we are all familiar with. i think it would be your lucky day if i hit on you and fu*ck you. I have a life. a good life. stop with the mindless cliche’s “get a life”. OMG. I’m sure you’re a nice guy. I’m sure your cute and all. And, just in case you DO want to hook up, look up my FB, Christopher Miles. Newton MA. I’m waiting for ya. I hope you’re cute.
Dakotahgeo
@o.codone: oxicodone, you are starting to bore me and the rest of the educated commenters on this blog. Begone, and quit making an ass of yourself… people are laughing at you.
Giancarlo85
@o.codone: You are a sick old man. And my posts might have a few typos, but have you read your own? You are a raving hypocrite. I will take more time on my though instead of replying too quickly.
You don’t know anything about Latinos and never met one in your life. You are a sick nasty man. And I said I am not into fat old men. So that counts you out. Ugly white guy… I am not into ignorant white hicks. Sorry. You are fugly. Are you trying to traumatize me with your ugly pictures on facebook?
Giancarlo85
And I am not hating on old fat men. I just don’t prefer them. Sorry to burst your bubble. You are so ugly. Goodness… You could never get a Latino, let alone a Colombian guy. Most of us aren’t into ugly people like you. You are ugly looks wise and your personality is horrible.
misterhollywood
@Michael McCarthy: She doesn’t have a mind to think I’m afraid.
o.codone
@Dakotahgeo: YAWN. true enough, this has gotten boring. to me. but, i really don’t care if i bore YOU, i’m here for my entertainment, not yours. secondly, i have yet to see what you call an “educated” commenter on Queerty. Are you serious?? Finally, i think stay out of it, it’s really not your business. *smile*
Dakotahgeo
@o.codone: As if your opinion counts, Druggie. Enjoy your day of reality.
Giancarlo85
@Dakotahgeo: Yea he looks like a druggie. Did you see his pictures? Quite traumatizing. Poor guy thinks he is hot shit. More like a hot mess.
Dakotahgeo
@Giancarlo85: His “facebook name brought up all sorts of Miles characters and none of them were that strikingly handsome. This is part and parcel of what kind of people they are: If you have nothing to offer, put other people down to feel superior! Mmmmmmmm… doesn’t work that way! Besides in my lifetime, Hispanics and Latinos are the most dashing and warm people alive. I’m marrying one such hombre from Brazil in December!
o.codone
true, I am a heroin addict. but i guess you hate everyone, including addicts, right? IDK why FB doesn’t provide a fast and accurate search. https://www.facebook.com/
o.codone
okay, that didn’t work. i give up.
o.codone
@Dakotahgeo: You said: “I’m marrying one such hombre from Brazil in December”! December !!! why wait, still deciding? between him or your Mom? hahhahahah. *smile* *smile* *smile*.
Dakotahgeo
@o.codone: You really are not a well person. Fiancee visas need a waiting period… we cannot be denied one; We must do the paperwork together in July. It takes 4-5 months to process and then we must get married within the 90 day time limit. You really are not the brightest light bulb in the Chandelier of Intelligence, are you? Did you even have parents? They didn’t do a very good job!
Giancarlo85
@o.codone: Um, weddings take a while to plan? You know… sending out invitations… and as Dakota has said the paperwork with the State Department does take time to process (I’m sure he also had to consult with the USCIS too).
At any rate, I would never date someone like you, codunce. I don’t hate addicts. I think addicts need help though. As far as you, I don’t hate you. I just find your personality and attitude repugnant. Your attitude is a huge turn off. Your sad looks just drive the nail into the coffin. I would never have any interest I am sorry.
And he’s seriously trying to get with me because he found out I’m Colombian. Man oh man… that’s just sad.
Dakotahgeo
@Giancarlo85: Mmmmm…. what can I say. A thousand thank yous to you!
Giancarlo85
@Dakotahgeo: He’s really trying to give me his facebook profile and wanting to get with me.
LOL. Never mind the fact I live in California and he’s in freaking Pennsylvania or something.
I feel a bit of pity for him. The guy is really desperate.
Billysees
@Colin Thompson:
“What’s happening to Christians ? …..where’s all the love gone ?? ”
Good comment. Where has the love gone is a good question to ask.