St. Columban’s College at Caboolture, in Queensland, Australia, came to its senses and canceled a “curing homosexuality seminar” after its parent Brisbane Catholic Education learned that, um, it was about to host a curing homosexuality seminar. Now without a venue, the group that was going to invite the locals to figure out how to de-gay themselves is pulling the victim card.
But Miracle Christian Center president Dorian Ballard [pictured] denied the accusation, saying when they hired halls they didn’t advise what they would be preaching about. He denied the group was homophobic. He said they had been discriminated against and the case was now with their lawyers. “We are not homophobic, many of us have come out of the homosexual lifestyle,” he said. “We are not afraid of homosexuals; we love them, we’ve ministered to them for years. This topic is always up for debate. It’s great to hear a lot of different views in the broad spectrum and we have been silenced, we have been discriminated against.”
Oh Dorian. That’s just so cute! Now let’s learn a little about you:
Dorian Ballard had a supernatural encounter with the power of Jesus Christ and became a Christian in 1993 at the age of 18 from a life of satanic practices, substance abuse and gross sins.
Qualifications galore, if you ask me.
Harley
It’s so confusing… Some days the Australians are knocking down your marriage rights, and other days they’re standing up for you. Some days the Catholics are trying to pastorally castrate you and other days they’re defending you.
It’s almost like this issue has …nuances.
Actually I wish more reports had focused on the Catholic school’s response which was more than sufficient rebuttal:
Executive Director of Catholic Education, David Hutton, added that the Catholic Church abhors all forms of homophobia “and will not provide a venue for homophobes to spout their views.”
from http://www.samesame.com.au/news/local/6612/School-hall-rejects-ex-gay-guy.htm
Gopal Balakrishna
Why do gay men hate other gay men who have left the homosexual lifestyle?
I just don’t understand. In another thread, I happened to mention that I am a former homosexual and everyone went ballistic on me. All I want is a traditional lifestyle. If people who are gay want tolerance from society, why can’t “ex-gays” be tolerated as well?
Joseph
@Gopal Balakrishna: If you’re Ex-gay then why are you on a gay blog?
Aiden
@Gopal Balakrishna: “I am a former homosexual” No, actually you are still a homosexual. You are a homosexual that chooses to deny his innate biological attraction to other men because a supernatural bearded old man told you he would spank your butt for eternity if you didn’t. I’ve never met one “ex-gay” that said they weren’t still extremely attracted to other men.
AladinSane
@Gopal Balakrishna: Wait, so you want your wife to be property?
justiceontherocks
Dorian doesn’t look like he’s been “cured.”
Drake
Dorian, now you have time for the orthodontist, since your seminar is canceled.
prohomo
@Gopal Balakrishna: Because your bullshitting, that’s why. No one can change their sexuality, period.
TMikel
Homosexuality is NOT a “lifestyle.” These ex-gays and their ilk and their organizations ALL want to believe, want us to believe that in spite of all evidence to the contrary, one can choose to be gay and by inference, one can choose not be be gay. Then there is the whole, “saved by the power of Jesus,” aspect and the, “love the sinner, hate the sin,” nature of their arguments. For the record, there is NO statement from Jesus on homosexuality in the New Testament. The Apostle Paul had a lot to say about it, and about women and others that he disliked, but I would remind these folks that they are NOT Paulians, they are Christians who claim they follow Christ, whose message was acceptance and inclusion.
“Dorian Ballard denied the accusation, saying when they hired halls they didn’t advise what they would be preaching about.” Why do they not give the substance of their message? Could it be [Gasp!] that they KNOW people will not come if they know that this is about hate and intolerance? As for Ballard’s claim that he is an ex-gay, that animal does not exist. All ex-gays talk about the constant struggle they endure in the attempt to change their essential natures.
The sane Francis
Harley, most Aussies are for same-sex marriage and gay rights in general. The government in this case definitely does not speak for the majority of the public.
Gopal, there is no such thing as ex-gay. That is not a sexual orientation. Sorry. You even admit to still fucking men and being attracted to men, so I don’t know what your delusional ass is trying to explain. All you want is something you aren’t, and no, bad things aren’t tolerated. You need validation because you don’t respect yourself whatsoever.
Anyway, these ex-gays can cry and whine that more and more people are not simply accepting their bullshit as reality, but ultimately, their bullshit isn’t reality, and their desperate attempts to justify their sick mentalities gets more and more embarrassing and sad by the day.
Gopal Balakrishna
@The sane Francis: You are incorrect. I NEVER said that I still “f*ck” men. When I used to live the homosexual lifestyle, I was always the “bottom.” I never had any desire to “top.” I used to get f*cked by men.
I’ve performed many poojas, gone through prayers at the temple, and now I’m in an arranged marriage to my beautiful wife. But my challenge now is that she wants kids, but I don’t feel a desire to have sex with her. I just want to hug her and admire her beauty. She has the best sense of fashion out of any other woman I know.
I’m just happy to have left my previous lifestyle, where I was depressed all the time.
Mykelb
My sexuality and my id and ego and emotional state are not up for a popular vote by the KKKristians. There is no debate scientifically concerning sexual orientation. I guess the KKKristians didn’t get the memo.
Mykelb
@Gopal Balakrishna: Because there is no such thing. Either you are repressing your natural sexuality (gay), or you are bisexual and won’t admit it. Lies are what we must counter every day from the ex-gays.
The sane Francis
Fuck, get fucked, semantics Gopal. You said you have sex with men still. So therefore, you are not an ex-gay, you are just gay and you hate yourself, which is sad. But stop making excuses for yourself. The only reason you were depressed previously is because you hate yourself. You are not straight. Your wife deserves a man who is in love with her and can consummate the relationship which you can not provide. You are selfish and disgusting. Liking a girl’s fashion sense or thinking she has nice eyes does not make you straight. And you are clearly not truly happy or you wouldn’t keep going out of your way to justify your self-hate.
Gopal, you’re gay. It’s time for you to get the help and support and love that you deserve being you.
TheRealAdam
Gopal is a troll. Please ignore it.
Jeffree
@TheRealAdam: I am starting to think the same thing about Gopal being a troll. He is like “Stanley” (remember?) who was just here to get sympathy for how much he hated being gay.
Again, he’s derailing the discussion.
Gopal managed to get the Gandhi thread completely turned into “The Gopal Thread: In Which a Gay Indian Man Will Not Have Sex With His Wife….But He Loves Her So”
B
QUEERTY: “Dorian Ballard had a supernatural encounter with the power of Jesus Christ and became a Christian in 1993 at the age of 18 from a life of satanic practices, substance abuse and gross sins.”
Hey a casual acquaintance transitioned from being a “dubious character” to being a Jesus Freak, and others who had met him and knew the details commented about what triggered it. It seems that a giant apparition of Jesus appeared before his eyes as he sat in a meadow, reading the Bible, while high as a kite on LSD.
Just saying.
McMike
@Gopal Balakrishna: Exactly… You are STILL gay!
So what if you’ve stopped having sex? That does not make you “not gay”. You know, I know and everyone else knows your sexual desire for other men is just as strong, if not stronger, as it used to be.
So would you please STFU and stop saying you’re not queer anymore? Sure, go ahead and tell us you’ve stopped having gay sex but I have a feeling if I went into your local airport restroom I’d find you tapping along in the stall next to me.
This is the problem with ex-gay ministries. You don’t stop being gay AT ALL.
Jeffree
Gopal’s wife, to him, is just a prop used in his play-acting of being “not gay.” She deserves to have a fulfilling sexlife, even if he refuses too.
I’m still smelling “troll” on him. Remember Stanley?
This thread isn’t about Gopal, and he’s managed to turn it into “woe is me”. He needs help we can’t give him, plus he doesn’t want to change, just to whine….
Gopal Balakrishna
This is my final posting on this site. It is becoming too risky for me to go to internet cafes and post on this kind of website.
I didn’t mean to derail any thread, but if I did, I am very very sorry and I apologise.
In Indian culture, homosexuality is very taboo. I used to go to the discos and pubs to scope out hot guys. With subtle hand gestures, I would signal to other men that I was looking. Then, if I was “lucky” that night, we would go to a commode stall or behind a lorry or a dark alley to have quick sex.
I do not want to live the rest of my life like this. So I decided to go the traditional route, do lots of meditation, poojas, and confidential counseling with the local pujaree and Swami. I then asked my parents to help find a suitable girl for me to marry.
You boys in America have the luxury of laughing at me, and going about your lives as openly gay men. You American men complain about not having same-sex marriage. For Indian men, we don’t even know if it is possible to be an openly gay man in society.
My parents will disown me if they find out if I was gay, or if I had a homosexual past. About 2 years ago, one of the men I had sex with, went public with his sexual orientation. He disappeared soon after. I heard he was cremated, but nobody but his family went to his funeral.
So, for those of you who want to attack me or call me a “troll” or “idiot”, please do not judge me, until you have walked a mile in my shoes.
Thank you.
B
No. 3 · Joseph wrote, “@Gopal Balakrishna: If you’re Ex-gay then why are you on a gay blog?”
Simple explanation: being an ex-gay is a metastable state. The question really is why he is hanging out on QUEERTY rather than on a dating site, which would be much more useful for him when the inevitable happens.
That’s the problem with people “curing homosexuality”: the “cure” may appear to work initially but will fail once the next shirtless hottie shows some booty, typically just after the guys selling the “cure” have left town.
BamBam
There is no such thing as ex-gay, and even if homosexuality was changeable, those who have became straight would be known as…
*STRAIGHT*
The fact that they cannot call themselves that proves they’re full of shit.