I have some recalcitrant soap stains in my tub that I plan to apply this caustic burning stupid to.

http://www.slate.com/id/2107102/

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Here are a number of articles addressing the issue of affirmative action and how it’s elimination increased the number of Asian-Americans students admitted and lowered the White student population.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01.....038;st=cse

http://www.usatoday.com/news/e.....ian_N.html

http://www.usatoday.com/printe......art0.html

http://www.newsweek.com/id/86134

“Asian-American students now make up about 45 percent of incoming freshmen, white students 30 percent, Hispanic students 9 percent and African-Americans only 4 percent. “

Well its true what the shrinks say, racism is a mental illness and you are proof of that, big time. Being a racist is no better than being a homophobe, and, when most racists hate gays as much if not more than non-whites, its always amazing how gays can spew racism, since if most homophobes had a choice of who to get rid of, 9 out of 10 would say gay the whole glbt commnutiy.

SO boring! Yawn. I’m surprised angry black hasn’t posted here. Now that would have been a show!

I didn’t call you a racist. That’s what other people are for

Oh jesus christ, give the “I have a black stepfather” a rest, okay? It doesn’t make you not a racist.

You have the wrong take if you think that I dislike black people or that I’m racist. I would use the excuse that I’m just a champion of white rights, but that sounds stupid as fuck. I really didn’t understand how stupid it sounded. Actually, I just didn’t realize how racist my father was when he drove into his children’s heads that the white man is the real victim. The truth is that that is a lie. You are right, as long as their are people that don’t even understand how stupid they are being when they make retarded racist comments affirmative action will be needed.

In short, I’m not really proud of my words that I have used previously on this blog. I am more proud of my black step father that stands by my mother every time she needs him and is the first man to ever do that for her. He also works his ass off when not on lay off, and has worked very hard to keep my mother and me happy.

The problem with my jokes is that jokes are supposed to be funny. The jokes I have made so far are not funny. I need to work on realizing that jokes should be funny when I make them.

WTG Rachel, and good luck Judge Sotomayor!

I just had a four-day stay in the hospital.

Point well noted!

Another point that I have noted, is that the very same people who support Affirmative Action, are usually the very same ones who say that those asking for equality for LGBT people, is asking for special treatment.

Huh?

But then, I keep forgetting that many blacks believe that civil-rights for LGBT people is not the same thing as civil-rights for blacks, is it?

Another Huh?

I wonder why he (Pat) did not touch on the how the nation is now dependent on doctors from india to staff 60% of the hospitals nationwide along with nurses from the phillipines. This decision made to save money by importing this type of labor instead of trainging our own citizens to do it has created a situation where if India and the US were ever to go to war the US would have no other choice but to hold those people (doctors, lab tech, computer software engineers, analysist, stock brokers) hostage because our national security would fail.

Look around you next time you have a hospital visit of any kind and see what the staff is made up of. Yeah, you tell’um Pat. What I find scary in a lot of the things you say is I silently agree with a lot of them.

And since when do you get better grades because of affirmative action? if that were true, wouldn’t there be a HELL of a lot more people of color in college and in professional schools? Shit, my life would have been so much easier.

That’s not hate. That’s truth. It can sting. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to take my black behind home to my white boyfriend and we’re going to spend all night trying to do our own little bit to improve race relations…

http://www.queerty.com/the-bla.....ent-186900

I will not say they built this country entirely by themselves. Everyone contributed.

But it is founded on those beliefs in terms of the law and design of government.

Now everyone should have a fair shake. Which is why I found her ruling on the firefighters so troubling. How would you feel if your results were thrown out because some quota was not made? You’d all be pissed.

Also – what is with all the white men hate? They have made fantastic inventions and medicines. The very computers we are using right now. So damn – stop hating.

She is pretty much going to be voted in overwhelmingly any how. Just a matter of time now.

I don’t think that ALL white people are rich and educated. Of course there are extremely poor and uneducated white people in this country. I don’t think that ALL black people live in poverty in the inner city and with no education. Of course there are extremely rich and educated black people who come from a range of different backrounds, from the inner city to the burbs.

I am only saying that…on the whole…in this nation…systemically…historically…minorities (not just racial minorities) have not been able to benefit from or even have access to the same opportunities as their counterparts. That is fact. Affirmative Action was meant to correct this. Is Affirmative Action fool-proof or the one-stop-shop to equality? No. It was a start. It helped diversify many institutions that would have otherwise remained homogenous. Could it be possible to move beyond Affirmative Action like some places have already done? Yes.

I DO believe that ultimately people should be judged and expected to perform based on merit and not minority status. I just don’t believe we are at the point of “equal opportunity” yet. It’s dangerous and naive to think so. I believe we are better than where we were, but it will take many generations and a lot of hard, innovative, collaborative, and progressive work from all of us to get there.

“White men were 100% of the people that wrote the Constitution, 100% of the people that signed the Declaration of Independence, 100% of the people who died at Gettysburg and Vicksburg, probably close to 100% of the people who died at Normandy. This has been a country built basically by white folks, who were 90% of the nation in 1960 when I was growing up and the other 10% were African-Americans who had been discriminated against. That’s why.”

If an explanation is needed to demonstrate why the above statement is bigoted, then I have to wonder a little about you. (And please know that I am a person who believes that the term “bigot” is overused. It makes it too easy to discount and dismiss the perspectives of many people who might not agree with us now…but whose minds, with some work and effective discourse, we might be able to ultimately open.)

You want to present actual facts instead of stupidity twisted by the minority communities please go ahead and do it. The problem is that you don’t want to use actual facts. You want to use your notion of them. Some of the poorest areas in this entire country are dominated 100% by white people who don’t use government ran programs and don’t benefit from Affirmative Action. You over look this in your, if only those poor black people that live in the inner city could get the same opportunities rhetoric.

I think you are kidding yourself if you think that tests are catered to white people. I think that everyone that is going to take that test is going to prepare for it in the best possible way. If you think the white people simply knew obscure words they never use then I disagree with you. They knew their words not because of their backgrounds but because they studied their ass off for the test. By your reasoning, no black person should ever pass the GRE and as an extension no black person should have a master’s degree or above. That is simply NOT the case.

Is the guy with the best spelling skills the best at fighting fires or leading people? [...] Who decided that? Why use that as a basis of decision as opposed to something else? How would the guys have stacked in an applied, practical test?

I don’t know, does getting your doctorate’s or master’s degree in anything non-communications related have anything to do with your ability to understand the relationship between obscure words? I would guess no, but we have used that type of test for decades to determine who gets into graduate school.

If you want to take the test on then do so, because I got to tell you that even white people are scared to death of not ever passing the GRE with a high enough score to get into graduate school and the result is many just don’t pursue education after their bachelor’s degree. I would guess that it was colleges that wanted to have that sort of test in a by gone day that decided to use it. The GRE (which focuses much more on obscure words and word relationships than anything to do with your actual area of interest) has been used for decades by colleges and is coming under heavy attack for a number of various reasons.

I’m not standing up for the test. I’m standing up for the fact that you don’t kick the people that passed it to the curb just because only one minority passed it. If you want to rewrite the test then FINE, but do it after you let the people that passed the damn thing and became eligible for promotion get their actual promotion. Don’t blame the people that met your expectations for your expectations. We don’t know how they would have done in a test that actually meant anything. That is not the test that they were given, but don’t blame them when they took it and passed it. On a side note, if only black men had passed this test and whites didn’t you would be here saying that white men should have done better but because they didn’t they didn’t deserve the promotions. YOU CAN NOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS!

The other problem you get into is that being a staff sergeant is much more a paperwork related job than a fire fighting job. You are going to be working with written communication at all times. I don’t believe that black people lack the capability to have decent written communication skills the way you seem to claim. I believe that if no black passed that test then it was because the people that worked the hardest passed the test and the people that were given a hand up by Affirmative Action their entire life regardless of their hard work so they decided not to work hard at all failed the test. Obama basically said the exact same thing yesterday to NAACP. That is a sign of a problem.

Please don’t be blinded by the glittery sparkle of year 2009 and the fact that we have an African-American president and a growing amount of highly successful minorities. Minorities are STILL underpriviledged as a whole, while their counterparts still succeed on the leg up (Head Start, if you will) they’ve been given by the fact that their parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, great-great grandparents, etc., benefited from opportunities of which minorities are just now beginning to take advantage.

Unless you are going to try to argue that the black person had lesser credentials because they didn’t get the same opportunity, and I really hope that you are not going to argue that because it makes you sound more racist than I am.

There’s nothing racist about acknowledging some groups have less opportunity and that the spector of long open bigotry and exclusion casts a long shadow and has had long lasting widespread effects. There is also the impact of closet bigotry both conscious and unconscious towards minorities.

White people are not playing with a stacked deck when a racist judge upholds the decision of a fire department to make a test easier and not promote anyone that took the test for promotion because only whites and one Latin passes it.

The issue was not whether the test should be made easier. It was the content and format of the test and whether it discriminated against racial minorities by having a design that was more suited to white test takers. For instance, the questions asking them the correct spelling of obscure words – not relevant to fighting fires, can be looked up in a dictionary if you are reading a letter or something on the job, and more suited to people from a certain background (which holds disproportionate whites). Is the guy with the best spelling skills the best at fighting fires or leading people? Why? Who decided that? Why use that as a basis of decision as opposed to something else? How would the guys have stacked in an applied, practical test?

Here were observations from the New York Daily News:

Test professionals and firefighters agree that oral comprehension and communication skills are far more important for fighting fires than written comprehension skills. Yet the FDNY uses only a written exam, while other fire departments across the nation use less biased oral tests.

Moreover, qualities such as dependability, good judgment, attention to detail and concern for others have been found to be among the best predictors of who will be a good firefighter. Yet the city does not test for these attributes, even though such tests have been available – even in written form – for more than a decade.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opi.....tml?page=0

However, it does sadden me that she will always be considered nothing more than an Affirmative Action reject by many people (some white some not) because although she could have made it there on her own in this day and age without Affirmative Action its so easy to say that she simply got a hand out at every single step. If you re-write Affirmative Action to put everyone on an equal playing field regardless of their ascribed status then you don’t have these same arguments.

Also, I do believe that a woman with her experiences is much more knowledgeable about what diversity is and how to overcome it then some kid that had a set of rich parents providing him with every opportunity imaginable. I want someone that actually understands strife to sit on the bench.