Comments on: HRC Realizes After the Fact That They Maybe Should Have Endorsed Openly Gay Candidate for Labor Secretary http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/ Free of an agenda. Except that gay one. Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:59:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Chapeau http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-103131 Chapeau Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:18:37 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-103131 HRC needs to change or be given a decent burial. HRC has become a joke. HRC needs to change or be given a decent burial.

HRC has become a joke.

]]> By: Brad Luna http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102941 Brad Luna Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:42:17 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102941 I also omitted that Mary Beth Maxwell is also a proud member of HRC. I also omitted that Mary Beth Maxwell is also a proud member of HRC.

]]> By: konrad http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102930 konrad Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:00:14 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102930 Brad, What a joke. Your "coalition partner" Pride at Work? This is the group you have told to fuck off a million times. HRC has had a totally hostile relationship with labor unions and GLBT labor activists. Mary Beth Maxwell is a great candidate for Labor Secretary but HRC's support does nothing for her. Let's get advice on Labor Secretary from a group that actually believes in labor, not the corporate bossess HRC is devoted to. Second, as a general principle, promoting candidates by issuing press releases is a bad idea. Brad,

What a joke. Your “coalition partner” Pride at Work? This is the group you have told to fuck off a million times.

HRC has had a totally hostile relationship with labor unions and GLBT labor activists. Mary Beth Maxwell is a great candidate for Labor Secretary but HRC’s support does nothing for her.

Let’s get advice on Labor Secretary from a group that actually believes in labor, not the corporate bossess HRC is devoted to.

Second, as a general principle, promoting candidates by issuing press releases is a bad idea.

]]> By: Brad Luna http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102914 Brad Luna Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:19:19 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102914 HRC, like the labor unions, supports a few key candidates for this important position. HRC coalition partner Pride at Work has also endorsed Representative Linda Sánchez for Labor Secretary. Pride at Work recognized Sánchez’s steadfast dedication to our community through her leadership on LGBT issues in Congress. HRC agrees that Representative Sánchez has demonstrated unwavering support of issues that affect LGBT workers and we are confident in her understanding that an inclusive labor force is a successful labor force. While HRC remains supportive of Representative Sánchez’s candidacy, given Mary Beth Maxwell’s long history of leadership on labor issues, we were also pleased to endorse Ms. Maxwell for Secretary of Labor. As an out lesbian, Ms. Maxwell has been actively involved in the LGBT community’s efforts to enact protection against employment discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity. American Rights at Work and Ms. Maxwell are committed partners in our fight to pass an inclusive ENDA. As a result, HRC felt confident in recommending two extremely qualified candidates who have both demonstrated their commitment to LGBT equality, Representative Sánchez and Mary Beth Maxwell, for Secretary of the Department of Labor. HRC, like the labor unions, supports a few key candidates for this important position. HRC coalition partner Pride at Work has also endorsed Representative Linda Sánchez for Labor Secretary. Pride at Work recognized Sánchez’s steadfast dedication to our community through her leadership on LGBT issues in Congress. HRC agrees that Representative Sánchez has demonstrated unwavering support of issues that affect LGBT workers and we are confident in her understanding that an inclusive labor force is a successful labor force. While HRC remains supportive of Representative Sánchez’s candidacy, given Mary Beth Maxwell’s long history of leadership on labor issues, we were also pleased to endorse Ms. Maxwell for Secretary of Labor. As an out lesbian, Ms. Maxwell has been actively involved in the LGBT community’s efforts to enact protection against employment discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity. American Rights at Work and Ms. Maxwell are committed partners in our fight to pass an inclusive ENDA. As a result, HRC felt confident in recommending two extremely qualified candidates who have both demonstrated their commitment to LGBT equality, Representative Sánchez and Mary Beth Maxwell, for Secretary of the Department of Labor.

]]> By: Thomas Johnson http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102893 Thomas Johnson Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:39:48 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102893 Paul, Lot's of us still give our hard earned money to HRC and many other organizations. Perhaps you should look into their financials...you and the many others that say, "I quit giving" years ago...it is not making a difference. Maybe you did not give enough to make them notice. :) There is a place at the table of all of our groups. And until the naysayers create a better organization...I will keep giving. Paul,
Lot’s of us still give our hard earned money to HRC and many other organizations. Perhaps you should look into their financials…you and the many others that say, “I quit giving” years ago…it is not making a difference. Maybe you did not give enough to make them notice. :)

There is a place at the table of all of our groups. And until the naysayers create a better organization…I will keep giving.

]]> By: Joe Moag http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102880 Joe Moag Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:52:20 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102880 @<a href="#comment-102840" rel="nofollow">Will</a>: So, it is HRC's job, per your comment, to sit around and wait for others to decided who should be under consideration, and then endorse? What about taking a proactive stance and pushing for her appointment, before anyone was being looked at? Or is HRC's job merely to wait until others act, then chime in? @Will: So, it is HRC’s job, per your comment, to sit around and wait for others to decided who should be under consideration, and then endorse? What about taking a proactive stance and pushing for her appointment, before anyone was being looked at? Or is HRC’s job merely to wait until others act, then chime in?

]]> By: Joe Moag http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102879 Joe Moag Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:40:00 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102879 @<a href="#comment-102659" rel="nofollow">Juanita de Talmas</a>: Actually, I asked a really good friend of mine who works internationally on labor issues for the Left and has worked with her on several issues, and he thinks that she is a great, great choice, a hell of an advocate for workers' rights. @Juanita de Talmas: Actually, I asked a really good friend of mine who works internationally on labor issues for the Left and has worked with her on several issues, and he thinks that she is a great, great choice, a hell of an advocate for workers’ rights.

]]> By: paul http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102873 paul Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:13:10 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102873 HRC is a loser organization and I am amazed that anyone still gives their hard earned money to them. HRC is a loser organization and I am amazed that anyone still gives their hard earned money to them.

]]> By: Leonard http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102844 Leonard Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:51:46 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102844 @<a href="#comment-102840" rel="nofollow">Will</a>: First off, that's exactly what the article says happened, so how is Japhy being disingenuous? The point is that the HRC didn't even bother looking for an LGBT candidate and it wasn't until SOMEBODY ELSE came out in support of one that they jumped on board. @Will: First off, that’s exactly what the article says happened, so how is Japhy being disingenuous? The point is that the HRC didn’t even bother looking for an LGBT candidate and it wasn’t until SOMEBODY ELSE came out in support of one that they jumped on board.

]]> By: mishi http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102842 mishi Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:35:17 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102842 Let's not forget that 10 years ago HRC endorsed conservative Republican Senator Alfonse D'Amato (who had a 90% approval rating from the Christian Coalition) over Democratic challenger Charles Schumer, who according to the HRC itself had a better record on LGBT rights. Politics should be the art of the possible, but not of the unpalatable. Let’s not forget that 10 years ago HRC endorsed conservative Republican Senator Alfonse D’Amato (who had a 90% approval rating from the Christian Coalition) over Democratic challenger Charles Schumer, who according to the HRC itself had a better record on LGBT rights. Politics should be the art of the possible, but not of the unpalatable.

]]> By: Will http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102840 Will Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:24:59 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102840 Another completely disingenuous piece. HRC endorsed Rep. Linda Sanchez prior to knowing the Ms. Maxwell was being considered. Once they learned that her name was under consideration, they endorsed her as well. But its much easier to write bitchy little pieces than to report the actual facts of what happened. Another completely disingenuous piece. HRC endorsed Rep. Linda Sanchez prior to knowing the Ms. Maxwell was being considered. Once they learned that her name was under consideration, they endorsed her as well. But its much easier to write bitchy little pieces than to report the actual facts of what happened.

]]> By: you're kidding http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102830 you're kidding Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:36:54 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102830 The HRC is still in business? Amazing. As someone who used to support HRC & who stopped giving during the 90s due to their amazing stupidity, I find it hard to believe that gay people who are serious about gay rights are giving anything to this group of fat cats making a joke of their jobs. The HRC is still in business? Amazing. As someone who used to support HRC & who stopped giving during the 90s due to their amazing stupidity, I find it hard to believe that gay people who are serious about gay rights are giving anything to this group of fat cats making a joke of their jobs.

]]> By: Grlskr http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102814 Grlskr Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:30:48 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102814 @<a href="#comment-102738" rel="nofollow">Ben</a>: Ben, HRC sponsored an event for anti-choice Sen. Robert Casey at Arianna Huffington's house a few years ago. She railed on him ! Nontheless, I think this is a little picture criticism, and we need to stick to the big stuff. Often with only two choices, one is not perfect. We did get a crack at him to express views on LGBT issues which he may not otherwise have heard so personally and articulately. @Ben:
Ben,
HRC sponsored an event for anti-choice Sen. Robert Casey at Arianna Huffington’s house a few years ago. She railed on him ! Nontheless, I think this is a little picture criticism, and we need to stick to the big stuff. Often with only two choices, one is not perfect. We did get a crack at him to express views on LGBT issues which he may not otherwise have heard so personally and articulately.

]]> By: Band of Thebes http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102809 Band of Thebes Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:47:59 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102809 @Ben You need to retract your all caps "never." In 1998, HRC endorsed pro-life Republican Sen. D'Amato over the pro-choice Democrat (and winner) Chuck Schumer. @Ben

You need to retract your all caps “never.” In 1998, HRC endorsed pro-life Republican Sen. D’Amato over the pro-choice Democrat (and winner) Chuck Schumer.

]]> By: Alexa http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102786 Alexa Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:38:52 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102786 @<a href="#comment-102715" rel="nofollow">blake</a>: Whether Obama picks her isn't the point, though I hope he does. The problem is that HRC was unaware either of who she is or that she is in the running. Unbelievable. @blake:
Whether Obama picks her isn’t the point, though I hope he does. The problem is that HRC was unaware either of who she is or that she is in the running. Unbelievable.

]]> By: RichardR http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102771 RichardR Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:57:24 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102771 @<a href="#comment-102746" rel="nofollow">chuck</a>: I've had the precise same experience -- HRC doesn't even acknowledge letters one writes to them. While they do some good, I think they're overly enamored of what they see as their "place at the table." Haven't sent 'em any money for years. Not once have they asked, "Why, Richard?" Their Mary Beth Maxwell flub is astonishing. Let's keep our fingers crossed and make some calls for her appointment. Would be fab. @chuck: I’ve had the precise same experience — HRC doesn’t even acknowledge letters one writes to them. While they do some good, I think they’re overly enamored of what they see as their “place at the table.” Haven’t sent ‘em any money for years. Not once have they asked, “Why, Richard?”

Their Mary Beth Maxwell flub is astonishing. Let’s keep our fingers crossed and make some calls for her appointment. Would be fab.

]]> By: chuck http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102746 chuck Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:10:21 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102746 @<a href="#comment-102738" rel="nofollow">Ben</a>: WTF planet are you living on? I WAS a dues-paying, card-carrying member of HRC for most of my life. No more. As such, one would think that I would be entitled to a response to at least one of the many letters I have written to that organization, asking for answers to specific questions. wouldn't one? WRONG! Not even once, have I ever received an acknowledgement to any of my letters. Forget about a response to any of the questions I put to them. Why the fuck would anyone want to continue sending money to an organization that claims to represent you, when they won't even acknowledge your existence and issue public statements that we of the gay community should maintain a low-profile and "pipe-down"? "Fanciful pure idelogy", you say? Is that your definition of full civil-rights and equality for all? Keep writing those checks to HRC, bucko. Your head is obviously buried so deep in the sand, that you can't even see the booted foot coming toward your ass. @Ben:

WTF planet are you living on?

I WAS a dues-paying, card-carrying member of HRC for most of my life. No more.

As such, one would think that I would be entitled to a response to at least one of the many letters I have written to that organization, asking for answers to specific questions. wouldn’t one?

WRONG! Not even once, have I ever received an acknowledgement to any of my letters. Forget about a response to any of the questions I put to them.

Why the fuck would anyone want to continue sending money to an organization that claims to represent you, when they won’t even acknowledge your existence and issue public statements that we of the gay community should maintain a low-profile and “pipe-down”?

“Fanciful pure idelogy”, you say?

Is that your definition of full civil-rights and equality for all?

Keep writing those checks to HRC, bucko. Your head is obviously buried so deep in the sand, that you can’t even see the booted foot coming toward your ass.

]]> By: Ben http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102738 Ben Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:56:11 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102738 The criticisms of HRC are not surprising. Large American civil rights organizations are always attacked by the "street" for their lack of fidelity to some fanciful "pure" idealogy. What is surprising is the vehemence of the attacks. Heads up people. We should not be devouring our own! For those who believe NGLTF or some other organization better represents LGBT interests, then go ahead and support them. Those who support HRC will continue to do likewise. The market place is a fair arbiter of such matters. By the way, HRC has NEVER supported an anti-choice canditate for political office. The criticisms of HRC are not surprising. Large American civil rights organizations are always attacked by the “street” for their lack of fidelity to some fanciful “pure” idealogy.

What is surprising is the vehemence of the attacks. Heads up people. We should not be devouring our own! For those who believe NGLTF or some other organization better represents LGBT interests, then go ahead and support them. Those who support HRC will continue to do likewise. The market place is a fair arbiter of such matters.

By the way, HRC has NEVER supported an anti-choice canditate for political office.

]]> By: The Gay Numbers http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102725 The Gay Numbers Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:24:24 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102725 @<a href="#comment-102715" rel="nofollow">blake</a>: Yes, but they Latino groups already have two picks- both the Commerce Sec. nod is a Latino, and so is the guy Obama wants for the US Trade Representative. Were the gay groups smart they would be pushing for similar identity politics for a seat at the table. The fact is great at her job is wonderful, but that she is gay is something they need to push regarding adding more diversity to reflect all of America. The symbolism would be powerful. We need a seat at the table. @blake: Yes, but they Latino groups already have two picks- both the Commerce Sec. nod is a Latino, and so is the guy Obama wants for the US Trade Representative. Were the gay groups smart they would be pushing for similar identity politics for a seat at the table. The fact is great at her job is wonderful, but that she is gay is something they need to push regarding adding more diversity to reflect all of America. The symbolism would be powerful. We need a seat at the table.

]]> By: seitan-on-a-stick http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102717 seitan-on-a-stick Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:56:22 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102717 As a drunk, privileged, Republicant board member of the Human Rights Champagne Fund, where's the Dom Perignon, servant rent-boy? We won, even though we don't endorse Gays, we cheer "We Won" after they are appointed or elected (you should see the cases of Champagne in our office hallway) despite US (Hey, nothing Gay in our title!). We print lots of pretty "Equals" stickers for the dumb-ass faggots who only read "Out" or "Advocate" mag and donate for the Christmas Card Envelope labels. Equal means not questioning your self-appointed Gay (Fearless) Leaders. Now, drink that champagne from my ASS, boy! As a drunk, privileged, Republicant board member of the Human Rights Champagne Fund, where’s the Dom Perignon, servant rent-boy? We won, even though we don’t endorse Gays, we cheer “We Won” after they are appointed or elected (you should see the cases of Champagne in our office hallway) despite US (Hey, nothing Gay in our title!). We print lots of pretty “Equals” stickers for the dumb-ass faggots who only read “Out” or “Advocate” mag and donate for the Christmas Card Envelope labels.

Equal means not questioning your self-appointed Gay (Fearless) Leaders. Now, drink that champagne from my ASS, boy!

]]> By: blake http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102715 blake Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:50:06 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102715 @<a href="#comment-102665" rel="nofollow">The Gay Numbers</a>: Ditto. Realistically, the Labor position is up for grabs. There's a lot of pressure from Latino groups for more Latin cabinet picks. Two-thirds of Latino voters backed Obama. Also, Kansas and Michigan governors Kathleen Selibus and Jennifer Granholm are also in the running for the job. Selibus was an early supporter of Obama's. Granholm has a lot of friends in the United Autoworkers. @The Gay Numbers:

Ditto.

Realistically, the Labor position is up for grabs. There’s a lot of pressure from Latino groups for more Latin cabinet picks. Two-thirds of Latino voters backed Obama.

Also, Kansas and Michigan governors Kathleen Selibus and Jennifer Granholm are also in the running for the job. Selibus was an early supporter of Obama’s.

Granholm has a lot of friends in the United Autoworkers.

]]> By: mark http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102714 mark Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:45:46 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102714 HRC continuously endorses pro-war, anti-immigrant, anti-chioce candidates and fails to endorse LGBT ones. STOP GIVING MONEY TO HRC! HRC continuously endorses pro-war, anti-immigrant, anti-chioce candidates and fails to endorse LGBT ones. STOP GIVING MONEY TO HRC!

]]> By: Sean http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102710 Sean Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:37:56 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102710 Considering all their work on ENDA shouldn't they have know about her? Considering all their work on ENDA shouldn’t they have know about her?

]]> By: flightoftheseabird http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102709 flightoftheseabird Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:36:12 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102709 As an ardent supporter of HRC and routine defender, well not this time. This is just insane. Linda Sanchez is a great pick under any other circumstances, but not when there is such a pro-labor, activist, that also happens to be a lesbian candidate being considered. As an ardent supporter of HRC and routine defender, well not this time. This is just insane. Linda Sanchez is a great pick under any other circumstances, but not when there is such a pro-labor, activist, that also happens to be a lesbian candidate being considered.

]]> By: Serena Freewomyn http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102679 Serena Freewomyn Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:27:21 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102679 @<a href="#comment-102643" rel="nofollow">George</a>: LOL - good one! Not surprised the HRC dropped the ball on this one. They're too busy planning ritzy dinner parties and spa days to actually do their jobs. @George:

LOL – good one!

Not surprised the HRC dropped the ball on this one. They’re too busy planning ritzy dinner parties and spa days to actually do their jobs.

]]> By: Darth Paul http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102675 Darth Paul Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:16:19 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102675 @<a href="#comment-102656" rel="nofollow">Ann</a>: TOTALLY! They're nothing but a self-serving clique of assbags these days. They are irrelevant. @Ann: TOTALLY! They’re nothing but a self-serving clique of assbags these days. They are irrelevant.

]]> By: M Shane http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102667 M Shane Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:09:02 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102667 Fox news , in their stupidity , may have accidentally let a pro labor person by. It seems that an anti labor person would not be on the short list; I'm sure that that has no relation to the generally goofed up policies of HRC. As gueerty says "they never fail to disappoint." Fox news , in their stupidity , may have accidentally let a pro labor person by. It seems that an anti labor person would not be on the short list; I’m sure that that has no relation to the generally goofed up policies of HRC. As gueerty says “they never fail to disappoint.”

]]> By: The Gay Numbers http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102666 The Gay Numbers Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:04:34 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102666 @<a href="#comment-102659" rel="nofollow">Juanita de Talmas</a>: Google is your friend. Look her up. @Juanita de Talmas: Google is your friend. Look her up.

]]> By: The Gay Numbers http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102665 The Gay Numbers Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:03:56 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102665 @<a href="#comment-102658" rel="nofollow">Johan</a>: @<a There is nothing but cynacism that says he is not comitted to gay issues. One of his first moves after becoming Presient-Elect Obama was to list out his agenda as President. That list included civil rights issues like ENDA, repealing DADT, ending DOMA etc. On top of that, he made it clear that his hiring practices would include gays as those he wanted to include in the process. The fact is he has not lied or changed his position on where he stands one step along the way. If anything, he's asserted it again and again. But, no one wants to believe him so its not his views thus far. @Johan: @<a There is nothing but cynacism that says he is not comitted to gay issues. One of his first moves after becoming Presient-Elect Obama was to list out his agenda as President. That list included civil rights issues like ENDA, repealing DADT, ending DOMA etc. On top of that, he made it clear that his hiring practices would include gays as those he wanted to include in the process. The fact is he has not lied or changed his position on where he stands one step along the way. If anything, he’s asserted it again and again. But, no one wants to believe him so its not his views thus far.

]]> By: Juanita de Talmas http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102659 Juanita de Talmas Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:58:20 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102659 <i>she was Fox News' go-to gal for union and worker-related rankings</i> If Faux News is using her, she probably isn't very pro-worker. she was Fox News’ go-to gal for union and worker-related rankings

If Faux News is using her, she probably isn’t very pro-worker.

]]> By: Johan http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102658 Johan Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:57:04 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102658 If Obama selects her, it will commit him and his administration to the passage of ENDA. After all, you can't possibly justify holding back on that issue if your Secretary of Labor is still legally vulnerable to orientation-based job discrimination. Here's hoping the President-Elect is serious about his commitment to lgbt inclusion and equality. If Obama selects her, it will commit him and his administration to the passage of ENDA. After all, you can’t possibly justify holding back on that issue if your Secretary of Labor is still legally vulnerable to orientation-based job discrimination.

Here’s hoping the President-Elect is serious about his commitment to lgbt inclusion and equality.

]]> By: Ann http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102656 Ann Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:52:48 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102656 Once again HRC is showing its' massive arrogance and stupidity. The "gay leadership" is just as ignorant as they were in the late 1970's when they were trying to keep voices down and at times, silent. Please tell me why the so-called leaders are pulling down 6 plus figure salaries and doing a terrible job....? Maybe they should look at American History again....voices that are silent are not heard. Once again HRC is showing its’ massive arrogance and stupidity. The “gay leadership” is just as ignorant as they were in the late 1970′s when they were trying to keep voices down and at times, silent.

Please tell me why the so-called leaders are pulling down 6 plus figure salaries and doing a terrible job….? Maybe they should look at American History again….voices that are silent are not heard.

]]> By: The Gay Numbers http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102645 The Gay Numbers Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:33:34 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102645 I am not surprised. If you read the Wall Street article it's clear that there is no coordination amongst the gay groups. This was pushed by the Victory Fund as I remember. Still, I have to say- if Obama chooses her it will be one more indicator that he is serious about including us. I hope it happens, and I hope Queerty will address it without cynacism. I am not surprised. If you read the Wall Street article it’s clear that there is no coordination amongst the gay groups. This was pushed by the Victory Fund as I remember.

Still, I have to say- if Obama chooses her it will be one more indicator that he is serious about including us. I hope it happens, and I hope Queerty will address it without cynacism.

]]> By: George http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102643 George Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:29:56 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102643 Everything the HRC does should be followed by the Debbie Downer Trombone noise: wonhhh wonhhh wahhhhhh Everything the HRC does should be followed by the Debbie Downer Trombone noise: wonhhh wonhhh wahhhhhh

]]> By: Joe Moag http://www.queerty.com/hrc-realizes-after-the-fact-that-they-maybe-should-have-endorsed-openly-gay-candidate-for-labor-secretary-20081203/#comment-102635 Joe Moag Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:03:59 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=34286#comment-102635 Wow. And the news about our "Leaders" just keeps getting better, and better, and better. Wow. And the news about our “Leaders” just keeps getting better, and better, and better.

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