Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee popped into The Tyra Banks Show for some girl talk last week.
We can’t watch the exchange until this Friday, but a very helpful Banks staffer sent over the transcript of Banks and the Huckster talking about the gays. Because, as Tyra declares, “I love the gays and the gays love me. And I know I cannot walk down the street here in New York City if I didn’t press that issue and truly ask you that.” Girl, you know it’s true.
So, what does Huckabee have to say for himself? Nothing new, really, except his language seems to be softer. We aren’t the necrophiliacs we once were; we’re just missing the mark:
TYRA BANKS: I know that you are a preacher; do you believe that homosexuality is immoral?
GOVERNOR HUCKABEE: Well, I think a lot of things in our lives are missing the mark. The word sin means missing the mark. It doesn’t mean that a person has committed murder… So I think sometimes if you say is it a sin or immoral and people think you’re making these terrible statements about somebody. I’ve had people who are gay that worked on my staff. It’s not like I’m some homophobe. If you ask me is it the normal pathway? I don’t think so. But, you know, I respect that people have different views about that.
Well, good. We’re glad you “respect” that we don’t think gay folk are freaks. That’s very kind of you, Schmuckabee.
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Read the rest of the ladies’ exchange, after the jump:
TYRA BANKS: I know that you are a preacher; do you believe that homosexuality is immoral?
GOVERNOR HUCKABEE: Well, I think a lot of things in our lives are missing the mark. The word sin means missing the mark. It doesn’t mean that a person has committed murder. I miss the mark if I don’t tell the whole truth. I miss the mark in a lot of ways. I think that we were created to have relationships with someone of the opposite gender, that how’s we reproduce, that’s how we live our lives. So I think sometimes if you say is it a sin or immoral and people think you’re making these terrible statements about somebody. I’ve had people who are gay that worked on my staff. It’s not like I’m some homophobe. If you ask me is it the normal pathway? I don’t think so. But, you know, I respect that people have different views about that.
TYRA BANKS: Do you want the gay vote?
GOVERNOR HUCKABEE: Sure, I want every vote. Seriously, I want to be president of everybody. And I can disagree with people over a choice they make in their life or a over a lifestyle, and still be their president and still say I want to keep you free, I want to keep your country safe, I want to make your taxes lower not higher. I want to solve some issues like the problems we have in education, and rebuild our health care system and I think whether a person is straight or gay, they want a president who is solving issues, not just pointing out differences among people.
TYRA BANKS: What if they say, I want to vote for you Governor Huckabee, but I’m a gay man and I want to marry my man. What do you say to that?
GOVERNOR HUCKABEE: To change the definitions of institutions like marriage is beyond saying, if people want to live a life that’s different than others, that’s fine but when you redefine basic institutions of marriage, government, whatever they may be that’s when we really should have a pretty thorough public discussion about it.
TYRA BANKS: You’re open to a public discussion at least?
GOVERNOR HUCKABEE: I think we’re having that. Whether or not we should change the rules and marriage and redefine it someway, I’m not comfortable with that.
TYRA BANKS: Comfortable or opposed?
GOVERNOR HUCKABEE: Opposed. I think it’s something that is not a good thing. I go back to the point the a marriage ought to be, the context in which two people not only have, they may not have children but have the capacity and ultimately to train replacements and create the kind of environment in which people are able to thrive.
TYRA BANKS: I’m asking you some many questions about this because I love the gays and the gays love me. And I know I cannot walk down the street here in New York City if I didn’t press that issue and truly ask you that.
GOVERNOR HUCKABEE: I think you should. I think people will respect my views on that, I respect theirs. The great thing about America is we can have totally different viewpoints and we can do it without having animosity, and hatred. This is one of the great countries where you can have sharp disagreements without killing each other over it. That’s where I think we need to celebrate what is great about America and that is we all don’t have to agree.
DavidDust
Tyra should have done an “America’s Next Top Model” smackdown on his ass:
“I HAVE NEVER IN MY LIFE YELLED AT A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE LIKE THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”.
Represent girl.
Qjersey
ROTFL, good one DavidDust
hells kitchen guy
what’s sad is that people like him really don’t think they’re homophobes. They think it’s hating the sin, not the sinner, etc. ad naseum. They can’t or won’t connect the dots.
hells kitchen guy
BTW, Reagan was the same way. He and Nancy had lots of gay friends. He never connected the hurtful, hateful things he did as president with them.
Paul Raposo
“…a choice they make in their life or a over a lifestyle…”
That’s how it always is with these people; we made a “choice,” or live a “lifestyle.”
dvlaries
If Huckabee really wanted to make America a better place he’d stay the hell home in Arkansas and knock 100 pounds each off those two boys of his before they both end up in CCU wings before either is 40.
Chapeau
That haggard biatch Fuckabee will see some animosity and downright hatred if he persists in pushing a Constitutional Amendment against Gay Americans.
This man is a danger to our nation — anyone who proposes a rewrite to the US Constitution – to bring it inline with the Bible is akin to the taliban and all of the other religious whack jobs that can’t fathom the concept of separation between church and state.
Rick
huckabee? fuck me! there is a great video of two rednecks discussing huckabee some where out there on the great big internets.
Klyphe
“but when you redefine basic institutions of marriage, government…”
I believe I remember learning in civics class that our constitution is a ‘living document’, which means that it’s constantly being redefined. Therefore our government is constantly being redefined. Hell, it’s redefined at least every 8, if not 4 years.
Huckabee needs to get with the times, not look to recreate the past.
ChristopherM
He acts like this is the first time marriage has ever been changed. When I hear people like him talk about redefining the basic institution of marriage, I always think it sounds like they advocate anti-miscegenation laws and wives as chattel. Then again, they probably do.
drunkonsweetolive
What an asinine, despicable politician. Conveniently leaving out the part out wanting to segregate the HIV/AIDS population into isolation????!!????
This is the best example of a politician saying something to please a certain crowd. Hows that birth of gay sex in the 1960’s theory going, FUCKABEE??!??
And since when in the HELL did tyra banks become fucking pundit princess??
Jack Jett
I can not believe this free ride this guy is being given in the press.
When this fuckwad kicks the bucket, he is going to be sucking cock in hell with Jeffry Dahmer…no doubt about it.
And that son of his that kills dogs should be forced to eat shit out of a toilet at Golden Corral.
emb
Actually, you ARE some kind of homophobe, Huckster.
You’re the kind who says “I’ve had people who are gay that worked on my staff” but doesn’t seem to be bothered by the fact that your policies and positions undermine their health, security, civil rights, and personal lives.
You’re the kind who says he “wants to be the president of everybody” but whose words, policies and positions lead directly to the brutal murders of GLBT teenagers.
You’re the kind who thinks the “word of god” should supplant the Constitution as the law of the land, so that gays can be oppressed and brutalized because of what some yahoos scribbled in the dessert two or three millennia ago.
You’re totally a homophobe, Huck. And you embrace a homophobic religion and are running for the nomination of a homophobic political party. So there.
Jaroslaw
I agree with almost everything here but I have to add that this Public level of debate of debate on almost everything is appalling. (not talking about Queerty members) A great example is when someone says something seemingly simply like “children ideally need a mother and a father.” Sounds great – except all children nor even most children have always had a father. Wars, death, diseases, incapacity, divorce, single motherhood etc. have always been around. Then we have unadoptable children – too old, not cute enough, too many medical conditions etc. And it ignores studies that show Gay parents are great. My point is almost EVERYTHING in life is like this and we as the public put up with ridiculously low levels of intellectual debate in this country from our politicians, leaders and news organizations.