What is it they say about college students? That they have an undue sense of privilege? University of Toledo’s College Republicans are making stereotypes come true, as they wage war against the liberal anti-Bush professors who are discriminating against them!
The group is amassing a list of professors with liberal political views that, according to the Republican student group, interfere with their teaching duties.
UT College Republicans President Matt Rubin, a junior majoring in political science and public administration, said the list is not an attempt to bash professors who have liberal ideas, but instead, it is an attempt to speak out for students who may have been victims of the bias, which was then reflected in their grade.
[…] “We realize that some professors are liberal, and that’s ok, it’s when they completely disregard a student’s opinion or they have a bias against them that might affect the way they are treated or graded, is what we think is wrong,” Rubin said.
These kids are scoring poorly because of what they believe in. We cannot have that at institutions of higher education! Discrimination is wrong in all forms, especially when these Republicans find themselves being targeted … like homosexuals.
“We’ve been portrayed in the media, as well as comments from people in the community including College Democrats, saying that we’re creating a blacklist in order to smear the names of professors and that’s not true,” Rubin said. “We’re giving a voice to the students that have been harassed because of their political beliefs. It’s the same thing as bashing a student because they’re gay.”
Eric Jost
Rubin’s comparison of his plight to hate crimes is incredibly inappropriate. I would love to hear about the many times people have threatened violence against him because he’s a Republican and then maybe I would be a bit more sympathetic. Perhaps he should realize that one’s political ideology is not on par with one’s intrinsic identity.
Bryan
I can’t speak for this group, but I know a number of hardcore college republicans and can say that many of those who score poorly and attribute it to their ideology are in fact, just stupid. There are intelligent college conservatives out there but the many stupid ones like to fall back on blaming it on the professor when they get a bad grade.
Rowen
Most professors don’t care what you believe in, but that you can, on the test, parrot back what they’ve been teaching you. That’s at the most basic level. Most of the ones I’ve known and had would prefer that you show a level of understanding and can formulate thoughts and ideas based on your education. So, when some idiot conservative, evangelical starts going on and on about how evolution is wrong, rather then addressing the questions asked on the test, of course he’s gonna be a less then stellar grade.
This is not discrimination. This is the consequence of being a sophomoric idiot. Let’s learn the difference.
Rick
No special rights for Republicans.
Ron
Interesting, isn’t it, how a poorly supported thesis and hence a poor grade on a paper is fodder for blaming a Professor’s political ideology. Ethos, pathos, logos anyone?
Republican
My experience is that many profs in the english and history departments hate having their views challenged. You can write like shit in terms of quality, but if you regurgitate the prof’s own views, then you’ll be fine in the class. I studied mathematics, so thankfully I didn’t have too many of those kind of classes, but the few I did have to take could all be aced using the same method. I’d wait until a few hours before the class, read the essay question, determine the views of my professor based on things said in class or by reading her CV, and then crap out a few hundred/thousand words of bullshit. Got an A every fucking time. And this was at one of the top universities in the USA.
TomEM
If they weren’t so stupid I’d advise them to study maths or physics: Little “liberal bias” in those disciplines.
Cam
Look, professors, liberal or conservative are oftentimes arrogant pricks. If you sit there as a freashman and keep picking fights with them, they will score you lower no matter what your beliefs are. Does it suck? Sure, but is it political or just based on the fact that they are used to students worshipping them and think they are infallible? Having met enough college professors I would say more often than not it’s just because they are arrogant.
Cam
@Republican: Exactly.
Synnerman
The College Republicans are failing because they want to make up their own course work and call it facts. They aren’t the professors and lack the training and education in the first place.
Stupid little brownshirts.
Republican
Synnerman,
Thanks for the laugh. Gotta love liberal idiots.
Ian
Isn’t it just like the Republicans to play “identity” politics and play the “victim card”?
Whiners! Whiners! Whiners!
Jeff K.
“We’re giving a voice to the students that have been harassed because of their political beliefs. It’s the same thing as bashing a student because they’re gay.”
Hint: It’s a lot easier to change your party affiliation than it is to change your sexuality.
At least in my experience, no one ever asked me if I wanted to be gay or straight when I got my drivers’ license renewed at the DMV.
Dennis
@Synnerman:
Exactly! Creating a “list of liberals” how very “McCarthy” of them…Myths, religious fantasies, and revisionist history are all most republicans have to cling to, unless they have the balls to stand up and criticize what ‘the rethuglican powers that be’ have done to the party’, and demand a return to more honest conservative principals. All they want is a world where it’s safe present lies as truth, to spin reality, and honor their (biased) religious beliefs over the truths of science.
@Republican:
What you should be laughing at (or crying at, really) is the joke that your party has devolved into…anti-science, anti-evolution, anti-healthcare reform…pro-war, pro-discrimination, the party of “NO”, and of no solutions, only opposition and obstruction. With Michelle Bachmann, Rush Limbaugh, and Dick Cheney speaking for you, and more hypocritical sex scandals than I can even name, I’m laughing, that’s for sure.
vernonvanderbilt
Interesting. When I was attending UT, the College Republicans were barely acknowledged, much less talked about in casual conversation. It was (and, I assume, still is) a fairly liberal campus. Republican students were more a token thing than anything.
I’m betting they have the entire Department of Women’s and Gender Studies listed though. Some of them were so liberal they even rubbed me the wrong way on occasion.
Nice to see my old friend David getting quoted in the story, though.
anon
irony! A party against gays claims tio be suffering like them! Tell me, when was the last time you got threanted to be beaten up, castrated and lynched for being a member of GOP? odds are, they are failing because they are dumbasses!
Timothy
For those ready with a bag of hate to spread on these folk, you may want to recognize that many younger Republicans – including many in College Republicans – are very supportive of gay equality.
Oh, what am I saying. It’s so much more fun to just spew hate.
DeAnimator
Wah wah. But I’m a heterosexual white man who wants my viewpoint of hate and my sense of entitlement protected. Wah.
vernonvanderbilt
@Timothy: Let ’em support gay equality. Until their party does, they’re still supporting the enemy.
Matt
Wow. No. The thing is, when a college professor marks you down for your Republican ideas, it’s probably because they are wrong.
You see, a professor discriminating based on peoples ideas is their job. It’s called: grading, or assessment.
And the thing is, once you’ve left high school and have to consider the world beyond yourself and your family, Republicanism as it exist today ceases being a legitimate prospective.
And as so many of the Republicans in my classes have exhibited, the real problem is that Republican students refuse to consider new information or challenge their preconceived notions. They have their ideas of their own superiority, and they hold firm to them.
You see, if you would try and learn something, instead of just demand an A for showing up, then your ‘liberal’ professors wouldn’t have to fail you.
Republican
“And the thing is, once you’ve left high school and have to consider the world beyond yourself and your family, Republicanism as it exist today ceases being a legitimate prospective. ”
This has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. You had better better be in your late teens, because there is no other excuse for such stupidity.
And before the dick waving begins, I’ll put my academic credentials up against anyone else’s any day of the week. Sorry if it sounds like I’m bragging, but I’m tired of those Dems (and Repubs) who act like Republicans don’t exist in academia. There are GOP professors at Harvard, Stanford, MIT, you name it. Usually the ones who say such stupid things are know-it-all teenagers or instructors at community colleges who got rejected from the big leagues and wouldn’t know real research if it bit them on the ass.
Apologies to the many good Dems on this site. I love you bitches, for real.
Popsnap
There are many intelligent conservatives/Republicans out there (Barry Goldwater and Meghan McCain, anyone?) but they are unfortunatly drowned out in the ever-growing sea of total madness.
anon
ever consider the real answer? Let say you are given a report on the impact of Obama as president and you write, without any evidence, that Obama is a born in Kenya, a muslim, socialist etc despite any form of research would show he is not. Teacher fails student, student crys bias.
Synnerman
@Republican,
You can make being a lying tool a political career, but that does not work so well in a classroom.
And if I am an idiot for advocating for trained professionals with advanced degrees, then idiocy is genius.
Go back to your brownshirt meetings little douche.
Cam
@Matt: You said “Wow. No. The thing is, when a college professor marks you down for your Republican ideas, it’s probably because they are wrong.
You see, a professor discriminating based on peoples ideas is their job. It’s called: grading, or assessment. ”
_______________________
Whoah! Um, that isn’t grading, the professor isn’t there to grade ideas they are there to grade the quality of a students work. If somebody turns in a paper on Thomas Paine, or Buckley, or Bill Clinton etc… whether or not the student agrees or dissagrees with that persons views has no bearing on whether or not the paper is well written, gets their point across, and is an overall effective presentation of the assignment. Giving somebody a worse grade because the professor thinks Bill Clinton was wrong about everything is completely wrong and that professor shouldn’t be teaching.
Cam
@Synnerman: you said
“@Republican,
You can make being a lying tool a political career, but that does not work so well in a classroom.
And if I am an idiot for advocating for trained professionals with advanced degrees, then idiocy is genius.
Go back to your brownshirt meetings little douche.”
_____________________________
Ward Churchill, the person who said that the people who died in the World Trade Center deserved death because as Americans they were little Eichmans, and collaborators, was a trained professional with an advanced degree. Additionally, George Bush had an advanced Degree, as did Dick Cheney. So please don’t try to tell me that professionals with advanced degrees area infallible unless you want to try to make the argument that Cheny is infallible.
Republican
Synnerman,
I am one of those trained professionals with an advanced degree, as are almost all republicans in academia, but whatever…
I do wish you’d be a little more creative with the insults though. Surely you can do better than using brownshirt over and over again.
M Shane
No. 14 · Dennis : you are correct of course;
The fact of the matter is that in subjects that tend toward human interests, educated people are rarely ever anthing but liberal at least. In America whayt is considered to be sound Covservative thought would have been considered insane at any other point in history(Tony Kushner). There are Rewpublican professors , but they rarely teach anything which touches on human values. A good instance is Milton Friedman: U of Chicago Econiomist who even won a Nobel Prise; but is the kind of NeoCon (Neo liberal ) who any humanist would a s happy to see hung for alllthe world damage his thought did. He is responsible for the theory behind first Pinochets Chili and the destruction of nearly every democracy in the world. His economics are unarguable but the means of getting and keeping them alive proved inhumane beyond any anyones worst nightmares.
Here was a conservative against who’s predictions can only be objected to in barrels of blood drawn and lives lost.
But he is no different , in a way that a populations expert might suggest spreading germs amidst populations or hacking up babies. to reduce population. There are good professors who are cramped by the R-Wing political estabilshment now. i saw a documentary of the Katrina flood estimations made by the U of Louisiana who prejected shortly before the levies broke that they had warne3d the President(Bush) of this inevitability- he was told that he would sacrifice his jkob at least if he spoke out.
Sure enough the levies colapsed and hunders of people dies , the city was devistated, the poor and black drivenm out, and a Private contractor, big contributor to the Repubs was given the contract to rebulid-nothing happened because they had no plan (at all in place). But a whole BIG line of opportunity was opened for private hoteliers etc to rebuild a white Social haven of New Orleans; they have even had an al white Martigras. The Balck people:150000 of them have been levf out of the town in dirty trailor camps; even though their home are renewable.
Anywy thats part of the picture with “bright ” conservatives. My own experience with liberal instructors is that they too teach, with integrity whaty they are supposed to.
I was always cantankerous and toook positons opposed to that of muy professors. I majored in Philosophy in amajor school. And pretty much got exceptionally good grades because I did it intelligently, whiuich , they as thinkers could hardly argue with.
If you have BImbo students ranting like their heros “fat Boy” Limbaug, “Dragon Woman” Coulter,”Buffalo Bill” Reily or the other circus entertainers on the Republican side , you will not have intelectual integrity because that is stupid fromm day one.
M Shane
p. s. then there is always that ubiqitious myth that positions so common to polite discourse that to the right or left are merely neutral and equally respectable positions. This is so that no one scares the horses, or enrages anyone even if they be dead wrong and caught up in lies. So a “smart republican argues that unregulated businesses will clean up after themselves in the course of self preservation. This is a respected position, up to the point where you doiscover that the polar caps are so far gone as to leave the earth nearly irretirevable qand the at the companies who make fule don’t give a shit because they don’t think the end will afecyt them personaly and in their lifetimes. That ‘s why “smart” republicans don’t mind being caught lying.
AxelDC
Should we discriminate against people just for hating others?
M Shane
No. 30 · AxelDC That’s a tyisted use of thr word descriminate. “Descrimination” is directed against people who through no fault of their own hold a particular place in life. These people select to do others damage.
The Swimmer
The Republicans are a dying breed. The Christian Race Nazi Party is left with nothing but Michele Bachmanns, Carrie Prejeans, old Phillys Chaffelys that haven’t died off yet, and oh right… the9/12 Glenn Beck Brownshirts.
When I hear some of the crap these people are saying in rallies it makes Sarah Palin look sane!!!