So apparently there is a debate “raging” over whether anyone called Rep. Barney Frank the F-word, and whether anyone called Rep. John Lewis the N-word. Because there is no video of said incidents, they cannot be true!
By reporting the name calling by Tea Party protesters on the Hill over the weekend, the media and the blogs are unfairly painting this group of revolutionaries as bigots! Worse, faceless bigots, because they can’t identify who shouted these terrible words. Or so goes the argument from GayPatriot‘s Bruce Carroll and Nick SomethingOrOther. ABC News, for example, “Inflames Race and Gay Baiting In America” by reporting the story with “no substantiation.”
What’s more, this video supposedly proves nobody said mean things, because it captures 23 seconds of Tea Partiers not being prejudiced assholes when Rep. Lewis walked by. GayPatriot says the video “debunks” the claims.
And hey look, here’s a video of the Rev. Jesse Jackson not being called the N-word while interacting with Tea Partiers — more evidence nobody is the crowd is a racist shithead. (To be fair, some Tea Partiers had the good sense to tell Jackson to “Get a real job, you commie,” while another screamed “Father another child out of wedlock while you’re at it.”)
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Meanwhile, there is video of Michigan’s Rep. Bart Stupak being called a “baby killer,” on the floor of the House, by an alleged Republican, though nobody will come forward to claim credit. So: There is no evidence civilian Tea Partiers are foul-mouthed bigots, but there is evidence Republicans elected to office might be genuine jerks. (UPDATE: Texas Republican Rep. Randy Neugebauer admits he screamed it, but he was talking about the bill, not Stupak: “Last night was the climax of weeks and months of debate on a health care bill that my constituents fear and do not support. In the heat and emotion of the debate, I exclaimed the phrase ‘it’s a baby killer’ in reference to the agreement reached by the Democratic leadership. While I remain heartbroken over the passage of this bill and the tragic consequences it will have for the unborn, I deeply regret that my actions were mistakenly interpreted as a direct reference to Congressman Stupak himself.”)
romeo
“F” word and “N” words happened. There were witnesses there. Interesting that the tea partiers are suddenly getting nervous about their nazi image. We need to start organizing coalition groups to show up at their rallies. You know, a lot of young people marching into a crowd of old nazi farts. I’d find that very satisfying. Especially if a tea partier took a swing at me.
They are the enemy. They are evil. They are the fascist cancer in this country that needs to be (finally) cut out!
And anybody that thinks I’m being all hysterical here, you obviously haven’t heard any of their rhetoric.
delurker
The teabaggers are getting sensitive to the fact that their supporters are acting like rabid dogs in public, and even the media are wising up to it. They are in full damage control mode.
ousslander
Talk about appointing an opposing group as extreme. Their fascist since they don’t want government run health care. There are people on all sides who are morons. But it’s OK for one group to get nasty labels and be called names but when the orther side does it, well that’s just wrong. Smells like rampant hypocrisy.
if some people did yell faggot and nigger the whole group is racist. Then by the same logic the the people who attack recruiting stations and defame our troops represent everybody on the left.
delurker
The teabaggers were vastly outnumbered yesterday by the pro immigration reform supporters (almost 200k) of them. Is it any wonder why these cowards kept quiet yesterday? 😉
stevenelliot
@ousslander: How is calling someone a derogatory epithet doing anything to enhance the debate? Does it succeed in showing a nuanced opposing arguement to a complicated issue? No…
It amounts to the same thing as kicking your car’s tire when it wont start…..
OusslanDer
@delurker: How racist of you to paint the immigration protesters as violent prone who can’t control themselves when hearing bad words
romeo
@ Ousslander: your name is appropriate.
delurker
@OusslanDer The lady doth protest too much. Who implied anything about races? The pro-immigration protesters came from various backgrounds.
I said the teabaggers stayed quiet because they were OUTNUMBERED(200K to maybe 2k?) Bullies usually shut up when they are outnumbered.
Funny how your mind went to race and the perceived violence of the pro-imm protesters. Who is racist now?
delurker
Even when teabaggers defend themselves against charges of racism, they still say something racist. They just can’t help themselves.
Cam
Yeah, those videos SURE are proof! Just like the phony pictures they tried to link to in here a few months ago PROVING that the march on Washington only had a few thousand people in it. Only problem was, the pictures they linked to didn’t have one single Rainbow Flag in then and were obviously fake. Additionally they tried to post overhead shots that showed massive crowds at the tea party rally, only problem was, those pictures were missing one of the more recent museums that had been built on the Mall and were minimum ten years old. So in both instances they have tried to use fake pictures to prove their point…so why would I believe this? Show me video for the entire morning.
terrwill
@Cam: You mean the Faux News method of counting anyone opposed to their agenda???? Its minus 100 for every person there against. And plus 1,000 for every person at events they are for……….
FAUX NEWS’ SEAN HANNITY HAS BEEN EXPOSED FOR SCAMMING MILLIONS FOR “WOUNDED VETS” This pompous asshat who has claimed that “every single dollar goes to the vets” has some serious ‘splaining to do…………….
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/6938/sean-hannitys-freedom-concert-scam-only-7-of-charitys-money-went-to-injured-troops-kids-of-fallen-troops-g5s-g6s-for-vannity/
Mr. Enemabag Jones
Bruce Carroll is the same man who claims that Ryan Sorba booed himself at CPAC. His evidence was that Mr. Sorba was the only one with a mic on, and he was standing near where the booing started.
Homocons. They never allow facts to cloud their judgment.
romeo
Only morons like the tea baggers would say “if there’s no video, it didn’t happen.” BTW, there’s plenty of vids and pictures of the signs that have been being held up during their rallies. They can deny and deny, and we can prove they lie and lie.
Decent people already know what that scum is. Their problem isn’t healthcare. It’s ANYTHING the Obama led dems do. Period. Well, let them tell seniors, for one bunch of voters, how bad it is that their prescriptions cost less and the doughnut hole has been closed for them. My grandmother won’t have to sweat that one anymore. She usually votes repub. Bet she switches next time.
Kgeo
OK. I’ll go ahead and say it. The only reason the Tea Party bunch and most of the Republicans are pissed is because President Obama is black. They can’t stand the thought of an educated black man being in the white house, hell, they can’t stand it if a black man is in any position of power. Look at their signs, they don’t attack the issue, they attack President Obama. Even the news media is guilty, and not just Fox News, the major networks used to refer to Bush as President Bush, but they refer to President Obama as Mr. Obama. Sure looks like disrespect not only of the man but to the office he holds to me, and I don’t think I’m being to Freudian here. I grew up and live in the “wonderful” state of South Carolina so I know a little bit about of what I speak, and by the way I happen to be WHITE and GAY so this is not a “black thing” for those of you that might be thinking that it is. It is just a bystanders observation.
Hyhybt
I thought Stupak was “pro-life”?
Perez Hilton
NEWSFLASH! Barney Frank IS a faggot!!! If they really did yell this at him, he should have just yelled HETERO right back at them! Big deal. I’m sick to death of you easily offended faggots getting your designer panties in a wad every time someone says the f-word.
romeo
HE IS! That’s what made it so moronic.
romeo
#16: Did you know that you could be sued for using that Perez Hilton ID? It’s copyrighted. Hope he tracks you through your computer and really puts the arm on you.
Taylor Siluwé
No. 18 · romeo
LOL — Not only using his name, but saying we shouldn’t be offended when the F-bomb is lobbed like a grenade. Oh, to be a fly on Perez’s pink walls when he reads that. LOL!
What kills me is how they think it’s more likely to be a liberal plant spewing hate. Its almost hysterical. Yeah, us toothless ‘libruls’, we are just so hateful and mean and bigoted to want decent health-care for everybody. Shame on us.
romeo
My reply in #18 was about the Stupak incident. Jerkwad getting in between makes my response confusing.
stt
The ugliest thing in the universe : fat, white angry republicans.
Cam
@ number 16 Perez hilton.
Before one of you teabaggers comes in here in disguise, you may want to actually read the comments. Nobody in here was freaking out over WHAT Frank was called. We are pointing out that rather than attacking him for his stance on the issue, the true bigotry of the people in the crowd were coming out. They claim that they hate health care reform because it’s socialist…funny, I didn’t hear anybody screaming out “Socialist” at Frank, or “Socialist” at Clyburn. Isn’t that weird if that was really what they’re upset about?
ewe
Keep in mind that if John Lewis was not called a nigger, no one would give two fucks if Barney Frank got called a faggot. The both of them are quite used to this. It is not the first time and it won’t be the last. Plus… who gives a shit? Look at who is saying it. It is misleading to say only teabagger whities are mouthing off. These words are used by people across the board. This is nothing more than a distraction that does not serve anyone.
Cat Walker
just plain buffonery, like everything involving politicians, radical behavior and of course Barney Frank.
Andrew
niggersrule
Robert, NYC
Romeo, No. 18….you do know of course that you could cut and paste this page on Hilton’s website… http://perezhilton.com/
I’m sure he’d be intersted in reading it.
ousslander
@romeo:I get it a german sounding name means that person is a nazi@delurker: Because the the majority of people getting off the buses to protest were hispanic/non white and yes you did imply that th reason the teabaggers kept quiet was because of the possible threat of violence by the protestors.@stevenelliot: I agree calling someone names or labeling a whole group for the actions of a few is stupid and gets you no where
romeo
@ Ousslander #27: No, I happen to like the present day Germans a lot. But your name means outsider, and that was my reference. And I also know that present day Germans are seeing the same thing I am in the teabaggers. And they oughtta know.
OusslanDer
@romeo: My apologies for misunderstanig
ousslander
and my bad typing/spelling
Robert, NYC
And now those dumbass republicans are going to challenge the health insurance reform legislation just signed into law by Obama. For them to succeed in doing that, Obama would have to veto his own legislation. What a bunch of morons. Their action is going to alienate them into outer space. They’re getting crazier and more desperate with every passing day. Imagine telling their own constituents who don’t have any health insurance or access to care, assuming they exist, that they’re going to repeal the law and allow insurance companies to continue using pre-existing conditions as a reason to deny them coverage. I suppose there are NO republicans on government run Medicare either. I wonder how many of them in both houses use the federal employee health coverage? I’d like to know who they are, having voted against the same health care for their own constituents.
greg_c
American politics has become very hostile because the conservative movement has used fear to cultivate a culture of mean in our society. The behavior we have witnessed during the debate on health reform is exactly the same behavior I see at my work and in the general public. It’s all political maneuvering for control and it’s the standard business model for the GOP. I don’t remember the divisiveness being as bad during the Carter years, but Clinton surely was the fox to the republican hounds. The war machine was re-activated the moment Obama swore the oath. I can’t prove, but I believe it has been alluded to, that in their war on health reform the conservatives are fueled by money from insurance company lobbyists. Call me jaded, or paranoid, but it would not surprise me to find out that there is also a connection between the protesters and the lobbyists for the insurance companies. Both insurance companies and the GOP want to capitalize on the enmity and use it to protect their own. Because the other reality of American life is that it is all about controlling public opinion to control the markets.
Taylor Siluwé
No. 31 · Robert, NYC
I think it’s gonna get even crazier. The GOP staked all their chips in on this roll of the dice to squash Health Care and the President. They failed big time. Now all they can do is let it ride, keep comparing the passing of the bill to 9/11 like Glenn Beck just did, and rely on the stupidity of the Beck watching masses.
Sheeple are easily led, even over a cliff. But with the dems and Obama constantly preaching all the good the bill is actually doing, there is hope that even the most loyal ‘Beckies’ might see the truth.
But there’s the determined to be unconvinced fringe element who’ve flooded the Tea Party and don’t really care about the bill at all; the ones using the issue to rampage in the streets, foaming at the mouth with like minded little minds all because our President is a Black. The same ones who spit and call Barney a fag. These people get off on hate, I think.
All of this is gonna get worse before it gets better.
Taylor Siluwé
That should have been “a Black man”. I so wish these comments had a ‘preview’ or edit button. 😉
Robert, NYC
Greg, No. 32, you’re probably right about that. I know for a fact that Dick Armey, a rethuglican of the worse kind sponsored one of the first tea bagger parties. I prefer calling them tea-baggers because it pisses them off and offends many.
Taylor, No. 33, you’re right about that too. After Labor Day, I have a feeling that since the GOP has met its Waterloo on health insurance reform (it fired back on them), they’ll turn to their key wedge issues to divide people as the primaries get underway. You can bet marriage equality will rear its ugly head again, DADT and ENDA. Notice how quiet they’ve been since they started bashing the health care issue? They’ve now painted themselves back into a corner trying to justify to their constituents why they couldn’t defeat the health care issue. They won’t succeed repealing it either, although given the makeup of the Supreme Court, five of them would probably allow a repeal since it recently set a precedent by allowing corporations to be treated as “people”. The GOP is in deeper trouble than its ever been and their alienation will continue as long as they keep saying NO to everything. We may of course see one or two losses come November but in the long run, I think they’re done for.
Bill
Hi everyone.
If I am interested in making sure my taxes are lowered and the Government spends responsibly, what group SHOULD I join?
I would like to find a group that wants to support politicians that want to reduce taxes and government waste, but don’t want to be a part of a group that, if a rally is attended by a couple lunatics, will make a bunch of bloggers insult the whole group.
Any ideas?